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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#26376: Apr 15th 2017 at 8:03:25 PM

But they are making water wetter!

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#26377: Apr 15th 2017 at 8:15:35 PM

more like beating an already injured kitten

with a wrench

actually I'd probably be on their side for that one

edited 15th Apr '17 8:15:56 PM by Saiga

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#26378: Apr 15th 2017 at 8:26:48 PM

I mean, not everyone uses Extra Deck spam. Monarchs are a thing.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#26380: Apr 16th 2017 at 10:09:14 AM

Goblin-related flavor texts are always the best.

Though my favorite set as of late has been Shadows over Innistrad, and it never fails to excite me how well the text brings the creepy and sets the atmosphere.

edited 16th Apr '17 10:11:07 AM by KnownUnknown

Medigo03 Since: Sep, 2013
#26381: Apr 16th 2017 at 11:28:03 AM

I miss the days when duels were actual duels and not just one turn blowouts

Cross (Don’t ask)
#26382: Apr 16th 2017 at 11:50:07 AM

[up][up][up] Wasn't the first one your signature?

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#26383: Apr 16th 2017 at 11:55:36 AM

[up]It was, and it was great. I just thought he made it up though, this makes it even cooler.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#26384: Apr 16th 2017 at 1:11:30 PM

If someone's signature looks cool, chances are someone else made it up.

Except mine.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#26385: Apr 16th 2017 at 1:54:26 PM

The reason I started playing Magic was entirely based on the flavor-text making the game more interesting than it actually was. That and Myr cards looked like mousers to me, and I've always liked that kind of robot design. I wish they did more with Myr, actually. They're just so cool to me.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#26386: Apr 16th 2017 at 2:45:22 PM

Like many cool concepts in Magic, the Myr are limited by the ability to only appear when their plane is relevant. The game takes place in a vast Multiverse with each block (since leaving Dominaria, anyways) taking place in a different world, with different civilizations, creatures, magics, etc.

The Myr are worker drones on the plane Mirrodin, which has only been the focus of two arcs. They're created in the image of the plane's mechanical overlord Memnarch.

...they probably aren't coming back.

edited 16th Apr '17 2:46:33 PM by TobiasDrake

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#26387: Apr 16th 2017 at 2:58:19 PM

I found that signature incredibly stupid but maybe that's because I can't help immediately jumping to the real world parallels.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#26388: Apr 16th 2017 at 3:48:51 PM

Which isn't unfair. I wasn't socially-conscious enough when I made that my signature to notice the parallels to real-world victim-blaming.

edited 16th Apr '17 3:49:04 PM by TobiasDrake

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#26389: Apr 16th 2017 at 4:01:29 PM

err, I should say the flavour text - I didn't think you were an idiot, I knew where it came form.

Sorry about that.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#26390: Apr 16th 2017 at 4:06:31 PM

S'okay, it's still not an unfair criticism.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#26391: Apr 16th 2017 at 4:08:38 PM

I mean, that sounds like the kind of thing made to intentionally make them out to be evil or at least dangerously oblivious.

But maybe I take it that way for the same reasons you two consider it problematic.

edited 16th Apr '17 4:10:55 PM by LSBK

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#26392: Apr 16th 2017 at 4:10:04 PM

I never saw it as victim blaming.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#26393: Apr 16th 2017 at 4:12:52 PM

It's literally victim-blaming. It's saying that it's the fault of the dragons' victims that they're eaten, because they're made of meat and treasure.

It's victim-blaming from the perspective of the dragons rather than the writer, but it's also clearly meant to be comedic rather than horrifying, which means you are meant to laugh at someone being victim-blamed. It's not exactly a rape joke but it's in the same ballpark.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#26394: Apr 16th 2017 at 4:19:13 PM

I did consider that it might be intentional (an intentionally cartoonish version of victim-blaming logic) but it's hard for me to tell because much of the flavour text is written from a POV of smugness and superiority.

It's really hard to tell if the joke is meant to be on the dragons or the humans. I guess it doesn't help by the implication that the dragons are frequently the winner.

edited 16th Apr '17 4:20:13 PM by Saiga

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#26395: Apr 16th 2017 at 4:21:34 PM

I don't have a problem with it because it's not like you're supposed to side with the dragon.

Prime_of_Perfection Where force fails, cunning prevails Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Where force fails, cunning prevails
#26396: Apr 16th 2017 at 4:24:32 PM

...I'm legit facepalming this is a real topic of discussion and parallels made. Dragons aren't real and its clear dark humor that isn't meant to be taken serious. This verges into that territory people mock about being too PC.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#26397: Apr 16th 2017 at 4:27:22 PM

Plus, I'm a fan of dark comedy anyway; it's why I love Cards Against Humanity so much.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#26399: Apr 16th 2017 at 4:41:38 PM

Dragons aren't real, but victims are, and the logic is dangerously identical to a sentiment commonly said of rape victims: "If she didn't want to be assaulted, why was she dressed like that?"

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#26400: Apr 16th 2017 at 5:03:48 PM

...I'm legit facepalming this is a real topic of discussion and parallels made. Dragons aren't real and its clear dark humor that isn't meant to be taken serious. This verges into that territory people mock about being too PC.

Well, there's no need to trivialize it so much.

My first thought wasn't actually race jokes - but simply one of racial violence, theft, conquest, etc. Given that fantasy races usually serve as a stand-in for real world races (not always as a direct comparison, but more as a way to have racial tension) that seemed like a fairly obvious one.

And part of it comes from the fact that, as I said, many MTG flavour texts take the side of the card they're on and are all about being badass/superior. So my first assumption was that the card was mocking humans for opposing the awesome dragons.

I can see the other side, that it's mocking the dragons for being so silly, but it didn't come across like that for me.


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