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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#25476: Mar 5th 2017 at 8:38:54 PM

[up][up]Fairly certain that's not what he was talking about. Point three is just them making jokes, the entire point of the series.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#25477: Mar 5th 2017 at 8:47:03 PM

The 'improvement' that sticks out the most was that stupid thing about having video logs of Gero's son in 16's memory.

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#25478: Mar 5th 2017 at 8:49:54 PM

I'd like to see a bit of payoff for Yamcha and Tien's character arcs (basically how both are dealing with the power creep causing them to be outclassed.)

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#25479: Mar 5th 2017 at 8:53:03 PM

[up][up]I thought that was pretty good.

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#25480: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:11:40 PM

[up][up][up]Nah, that seemed more unnecessary than anything...

1 times 0 basically.

But I don't see them adding anything like that to the actual Cell games.

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#25481: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:21:49 PM

That was just them adding stuff we learned from interviews with Toriyama. I don't see anything wrong with that.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#25482: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:23:31 PM

I think the point of contention is whether it was brought up organically, not just mentioning it at all.

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#25485: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:27:42 PM

[up][up][up]About as organically as it could be seeing how 16 is complete machine...

If not programming a personality from scratch, it makes sense for it to be there at least...kinda.

edited 5th Mar '17 9:28:11 PM by randomness4

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#25486: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:33:05 PM

It felt extremely inorganic to me. More than that, it felt unnecessary.

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#25487: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:34:34 PM

I loved it.

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#25488: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:36:48 PM

Yeah, I thought it was very well done.

edited 5th Mar '17 9:37:04 PM by Nightwire

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#25489: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:39:05 PM

I mean, I didn't mind it, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't think it felt a bit awkwardly shoehorned in.

Edit: I mean, even without knowing about the original, it was easy to tell they inserted that into the story. I get having a problem with that.

edited 5th Mar '17 9:44:37 PM by LSBK

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#25490: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:43:20 PM

I'll agree that it was a bit awkward, but not enough for me to stop watching or anything

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#25491: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:52:11 PM

Skip on repeats worthy...

edited 5th Mar '17 9:52:30 PM by randomness4

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#25492: Mar 5th 2017 at 10:19:25 PM

Inorganic...

Well, he is completely metal...

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#25493: Mar 5th 2017 at 11:40:01 PM

It added nothing of value to me, felt awkward and inorganic and just plain didn't make sense in that context.

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#25494: Mar 6th 2017 at 12:08:58 AM

It explained Gero's motivation for killing Goku so it wasn't pointless, though the implementation was definitely less than perfect.

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#25495: Mar 6th 2017 at 12:13:08 AM

It was an additional layer to the "already there" explanation...

edited 6th Mar '17 12:13:39 AM by randomness4

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#25496: Mar 6th 2017 at 4:19:02 AM

[up][up]Gero already had an explanation for his motive. He reveals himself that he was part of the RRA because he shared their dream for world domination (if that wasn't obvious enough) and Goku ruined that dream. Since Gero still intended to take over the world, Goku was an obstacle.

His son being a soldier for the RRA becomes incredibly silly when they portray him as nothing but a loving son in the video, completely glossing over what being part of the "we literally want world domination" RRA means.

So yes, it was entirely pointless. It makes more sense that the evil dick who experimented on people and wanted world domination would be motivated by someone foiling those plans than it is for him to need to make the revenge about something more sympathetic.

edited 6th Mar '17 4:20:54 AM by Saiga

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#25497: Mar 6th 2017 at 5:02:42 AM

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I loved it. I felt like it did a great job of introducing this bit of continuity from Toriyama's interviews into the series. It also helped fans who haven't seen the show to connect more emotionally to the android plot. I watch the series with a couple of people who've never seen DBZ or read the manga, and they were completely sucked into that moment.

One even actually said, "Oh my god," out loud once Goku's offscreen Kamehameha started charging up and she realized what was hitting the base.

edited 6th Mar '17 5:03:29 AM by TobiasDrake

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#25498: Mar 6th 2017 at 5:11:25 AM

On the subject of TFS adding stuff to canon, can we talk about this brilliant scene that added a layer of depth to Kami's character?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#25499: Mar 6th 2017 at 5:15:56 AM

I'm aware of the trope but the existence of it does not mean it is always appropriate or handled well. The reference to 17/18's real names was a good example of working in the interview information.

The 16 background was a Voodoo Shark already, as it sought to give explanation to two factors that had already been explained in the manga in a more logical and consistent way. The way TFS introduced it to the abridged series doubled down on the voodoo.

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#25500: Mar 6th 2017 at 6:04:25 AM

I like it regardless (or perhaps even rejecting some of the assertions), but I doubt anyone cares, or that my two cents will be changing any minds.

edited 6th Mar '17 6:09:58 AM by Enlong

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