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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#25451: Mar 5th 2017 at 7:44:10 AM

Saitama is no limits fallacy embodied.

All anyone's doing is challenging the assertion that this should apply whenever Saitama is used in an online argument. I faintly understand why that's important but, it's annoying.

Should Saitama's gag apply outside of the series? Yes, I would say so, and because it's a gag, people shouldn't take it seriously. Because to say his shouldn't means that Bobobo's, Arale's, Bugs Bunny's, and Squirrel Girl's shouldn't either. People also shouldn't be saying "Saitama can beat Superman" as a counter to Superman defeating Goku in Death Battle, but they're going to anyway because this is the internet.

Can we move on?

edited 5th Mar '17 8:01:10 AM by Soble

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#25452: Mar 5th 2017 at 8:41:02 AM

It is literally stated in the web comic that Saitama has no limits. The idea is that everyone is born with a limiter to their strength for various reasons and there is no way past that without becoming a monster and/or dying. Saitama managed to somehow break his limiter without either happening and thus no longer has a limit. While that is, admittedly, an explanation coming from another character, it's the only explanation that, to my knowledge, hasn't been shot down.

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#25453: Mar 5th 2017 at 8:47:47 AM

Calling Saitama's power "just a gag" is pointless. Yes, it is a gag. But said gag is literally his concept. The whole reason he exists is to defeat things in One Punch. That is literally the whole point of the character. You could hypothetically speculate about his upper limits, but why? If you place a limit om him then there is no point for him to exist anymore.

If you make a crossover and include him, then he must defeat anything he fights with extreme ease because, otherwise, you might as well not have included him at all.

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#25454: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:05:14 AM

If you want a video speculating about Saitama's upper limits then here you go. It also talks about his entire point as a character, talks about the No Limit Fallacy that people love throwing around, and also compares Saitama to Popeye.

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#25455: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:16:00 AM

Are you guys still on this? I'm pretty sure most people stopped caring by now.

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#25457: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:35:53 AM

I would imagine those people who posed the argument by saying Cell would crush Saitama probably did. Then, when everyone was mostly done with the argument, people from both sides just sorta continued it. I'm not really one for vs arguments, but it is kinda amusing watching both sides talk around each other.

edited 5th Mar '17 9:38:18 AM by Alfric

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#25458: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:38:04 AM

I'm tempted to link to that one XKCD comic.

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#25459: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:38:53 AM

Was it this one? I love this one.

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#25460: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:39:11 AM

Then here's something else to talk about:

It's relevant because MasakoX talks as Goku in the beginning of it and there are clips from DBZA scattered throughout.

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#25461: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:39:44 AM

I suggested this earlier but was apparently ignored.

He won the argument. The rest of us lost.

We cool?

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#25462: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:43:56 AM

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Aye, that's the one.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#25463: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:52:59 AM

Obviously, this thread loves discussing power levels. Why else would we still be talking about this?

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#25464: Mar 5th 2017 at 2:04:59 PM

Because some people want to find a character that can give Saitama a good fight.

Which, funny enough, is what Saitama wants as well.

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#25465: Mar 5th 2017 at 2:12:11 PM

See. We're trying to help our buddy Caped Baldy.

No harm done.

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#25466: Mar 5th 2017 at 2:41:42 PM

Just have him fight Catman then.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#25467: Mar 5th 2017 at 2:58:24 PM

There's a thread for further discussion of Saitama v Goku.

edited 5th Mar '17 2:58:51 PM by Soble

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#25468: Mar 5th 2017 at 6:38:53 PM

@25454,

Great video. Also, I loved he implied Squirel Girl could defeat Saitama (off screen). That is kinda hilarious and is a more fair match than Cell,tongue

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#25469: Mar 5th 2017 at 7:14:06 PM

So what are we all hoping for joke wise from the Cell Games and the various fights against Cell? Besides for them to be funny :P

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#25470: Mar 5th 2017 at 8:11:45 PM

I want Goku vs Cell to be absolutely hilarious, and for Gohan vs Cell to have almost no humor whatsoever in it, despite Cell's best efforts.

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#25471: Mar 5th 2017 at 8:15:02 PM

I'd like the Cell Jrs to have different personalities based on Cell's components.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#25472: Mar 5th 2017 at 8:21:11 PM

I would like to be surprised by the jokes and for them not to try to 'improve' the story again.

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#25473: Mar 5th 2017 at 8:25:57 PM

Not that I don't understand the trend you're talking about, but is there any particular example that stands out to you?

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#25474: Mar 5th 2017 at 8:33:18 PM

Improving the story? The only instances I recall of them changing things from canon would be:

  • Injecting mentions of things Toriyama added via Word of God.
  • Tying the movies in as best they could. (Though they never did bring up the whole "Goku and Gohan aren't Super Saiyan for the whole of the Broly movie" thing.)
  • Occasional small things like Wheelo living slightly longer, Dodoria being a woman, Nappa, etc.

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#25475: Mar 5th 2017 at 8:35:24 PM

Tailoring the story to their writing is more accurate anyway...

Improvement will be up to everyone else.

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