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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#25426: Mar 4th 2017 at 9:24:45 PM

Actually, I'm pretty sure he was calling him Caillou.[up]

edited 4th Mar '17 9:25:50 PM by BaconManiac5000

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#25427: Mar 4th 2017 at 9:25:39 PM

That works too.

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#25428: Mar 4th 2017 at 9:25:40 PM

Saitama's whole character thing is "Guy who wins in one punch." Even if you put him in another universe that wouldn't change.

To give a different example, would it be fair to take a character from Naruto where they have the ability to learn multiple elements, put them in the ATLA universe, and then take away their other elemental abilities because "Only the Avatar can master all the elements"?

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#25429: Mar 4th 2017 at 9:28:10 PM

Except...it's not an ability, it's a gag; that shouldn't transfer over unless the creator is doing something silly, like how Arale was able to beat Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#25430: Mar 4th 2017 at 9:29:45 PM

There should probably composite universes for those "who would win" speculations...

So rules need not bend in one character's favor.

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#25431: Mar 4th 2017 at 9:31:14 PM

Eh. I can see him fighting against DBZ characters, what with seeing stuff like him vs Boros or the meteor without coming anything close to breaking a sweat.

But it's all kinda silly to seriously speculate, since the show is almost certainly never gonna show him hit his limits.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#25432: Mar 4th 2017 at 9:31:20 PM

doesn't matter

ultimately up to the will of the fan writer

Now this I agree with.

edited 4th Mar '17 9:33:36 PM by Soble

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#25433: Mar 4th 2017 at 9:40:04 PM

Except...it's not an ability, it's a gag; that shouldn't transfer over unless the creator is doing something silly, like how Arale was able to beat Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta.

Surely, given that Saitama is being brought into a crossover fight, 'the creator is doing something silly' is a pretty damn safe assumption. He's an inherently silly character being brought into a context where he's even more inherently silly.

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#25434: Mar 4th 2017 at 9:40:49 PM

Honestly, my prefer headcanon of any Saitama vs Goku fight is just making the two of them equals, and have them knock themselves out.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#25435: Mar 4th 2017 at 9:51:19 PM

Except...it's not an ability, it's a gag; that shouldn't transfer over unless the creator is doing something silly, like how Arale was able to beat Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta.

Right. I know I'm just throwing fuel on the fire....and I love it.evil grin

So first off, SSB Vegeta never got beat up by Arale, by dint of Vegeta never going beyond base.

Goku did immediately jump to SSB, and was only barely holding her off. Her gag nature meant he stood no chance of matching her, because the idea of a super alien who'd achieved God hood being beat up by an little robot girl is inherently funny.

So...considering we know Toriyama values his jokes quite a bit, I actually think that, if they did it in a hilarious way, Saitama's gag would carry over to Dragonball, and he'd shit stomp everyone...then get slapped upside the head by Chi-chi or Bulma (leaving a big red hand mark on his cheek), and told to leave, because that would also be seen as funny.

Rob wins. Fridge logic-ality.tongue

edited 4th Mar '17 9:51:34 PM by HandsomeRob

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#25436: Mar 4th 2017 at 10:32:40 PM

Speaking of Z Fighters, I'm still not used to how Kai goes with Dragon Team for the heroes instead.

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#25437: Mar 4th 2017 at 10:41:45 PM

Neither of those are official termanology.

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#25438: Mar 4th 2017 at 10:55:44 PM

At least it makes a tad bit more sense.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#25439: Mar 4th 2017 at 10:58:02 PM

If it's used in the show that I watch and used by the people that I talk to I don't think it matters. Anyway it's a bit jarring to my... what's the mental equivalent of muscle memory?

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#25443: Mar 4th 2017 at 11:34:12 PM

Long term memory?

Habits?

Bias?

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#25444: Mar 4th 2017 at 11:48:28 PM

Scrimshaw?

edited 4th Mar '17 11:48:36 PM by SonOfSharknado

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#25445: Mar 5th 2017 at 4:40:55 AM

I said I wouldn't respond to anymore Saitama stuff, but.....I can't resist.

Saitama's whole character thing is "Guy who wins in one punch." Even if you put him in another universe that wouldn't change.

That's not his "power". Even if it were, he still wouldn't beat characters with superior feats. Flash is the "fastest man alive", that doesn't mean he's faster than any other character ever. At best you can say we haven't seen his limits yet, but that does not mean he's limitless.

Oddly enough, there are opponents who Saitama has not beaten in one punch, but rather in multiple ones, does that not imply an upper limit? If his "power" is to literally beat everyone with one punch, then that should hold true always, no matter who or what he's hitting.

would it be fair to take a character from Naruto where they have the ability to learn multiple elements, put them in the ATLA universe, and then take away their other elemental abilities because "Only the Avatar can master all the elements"?

What Saitama does isn't an ability, and not letting him one-shot a character with superior stats would not be "taking away" his abilities. You're trying to claim that scaling Saitama to infinity based off of no limit fallacies is fine, and that to suggest otherwise would be to "take away" his nonexistent infinite power. And it would take too long to address that Naruto/Avatar point.

People tend to take evidence over supposed "authorial intent". Just because people think Saitama can beat everything in one punch, doesn't mean everyone is going to accept that premise without question. Handwaving the discussion away by saying "it would ruin his character" also isn't a good enough point either. There are plenty of "gag" characters around, they don't get to do whatever and whenever they want either, Saitama is no special exception.

There should probably composite universes for those "who would win" speculations...

That does tend to be the case, just so that there are no inherent biases.

edited 5th Mar '17 5:03:46 AM by hardcorefakes

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#25446: Mar 5th 2017 at 5:26:42 AM

It's not his power, but he is holding back when punching through a planet-busting attack so hard the other guy gets gibbed and the clouds in the line of the shot part ways.

There is nothing stopping us from supposing he would simply hold back a little less when dealing with an appropriately strong character.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#25447: Mar 5th 2017 at 5:40:13 AM

Saitama beating the likes of Boros, or Garou, doesn't suggest anything about infinite limits, just that he can beat opponents of those tiers. Him hitting them with "serious blows" should imply that he can only hit so hard.

Alright, I've filled my Saitama quota for the day.

edited 5th Mar '17 6:15:44 AM by hardcorefakes

Thebrawlbro Since: Aug, 2013
#25448: Mar 5th 2017 at 6:24:37 AM

If you guys really want to keep talking about this, can it at least be moved to the death battle thread? There, it would at least be on topic.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#25449: Mar 5th 2017 at 6:32:06 AM

Shounen and gag mangas being treated as science? Really?

Nobody is enjoying the conversation.

edited 5th Mar '17 6:33:13 AM by Eriorguez

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#25450: Mar 5th 2017 at 7:24:33 AM

The existence of a Serious Punch proves nothing about his upper limits. After he throws the Serious Punch and defeats Boros, the latter identifies the move immediately afterwards as him still holding back and assesses that, despite his assumptions during the fight, Saitama was not his equal after all. Instead, Boros never stood a chance against his limitless might.

He is repeatedly stated throughout the series as having no limits at all. He can throw some punches harder than other punches, but there exists no evidence of a strongest punch.

edited 5th Mar '17 7:27:07 AM by TobiasDrake

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