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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#25176: Feb 24th 2017 at 5:09:08 PM

I was expecting the gag to be that Cell didn't even have hearts, so it just popped one of his surface cells with an adorable little mini-explosion or something.

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#25177: Feb 24th 2017 at 5:32:05 PM

That would've been better.

"You just wrote down 'perfect cell'? There's your problem. All of my cells are perfect cells. [kills Light] Maybe if you had written down Mister Perfect Cell it might've worked."

edited 24th Feb '17 5:33:14 PM by wanderlustwarrior

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#25178: Feb 24th 2017 at 5:36:39 PM

My expectation was that 'Perfect Cell' wouldn't work, because his name isn't really Perfect Cell.

Which Cell would not like at all.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#25179: Feb 24th 2017 at 5:40:48 PM

My expectation was exactly what we got. Or rather, I expected Cell's heart to explode or something and then regenerate.

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#25180: Feb 24th 2017 at 5:44:14 PM

There were supposed to be eight of these right? How many are left?

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#25182: Feb 24th 2017 at 5:47:12 PM

I was expecting regeneration too.

The Death Note can puppet people into fulfilling its conditions, so "Cell flies into the sun" would probably actually kill him. It doesn't have to be reasonable behavior for the person, just not impossible to fulfill.

But the default heart attack condition? Pretty useless against regenerators, and you can't weasel around that by saying the Death Note would just default to something else that would be lethal because it has clearly written instructions. It's not a symbolic thing like "It kills them in the simplest way possible." The rules explicitly say heart attack.

Then again, the book also specifies that it kills "humans" many, many times so I'm not sure it would even work on Cell in the first place.

EDIT: Also, fun fact, if you write somebody's name incorrectly as Saiga suggested regarding Perfect Cell, it doesn't work. Writing someone's name wrong...it's either 3 times or 4, I can't remember...renders that person permanently unkillable by Death Note, because f*ck you. But writing their name wrong intentionally to try and make them unkillable causes the Death Note to immediately kill the person writing in it, because seriously, f*ck you.

edited 24th Feb '17 5:48:55 PM by TobiasDrake

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#25183: Feb 24th 2017 at 5:54:03 PM

What if you told a 3rd party to tell a different person to write someone's name in the Death Note wrong 3 times?

EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#25184: Feb 24th 2017 at 5:54:57 PM

That ending was disturbing with the face.

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#25185: Feb 24th 2017 at 5:57:46 PM

^^ It goes wrong for you somehow and also kills your puppy because Death Note is that kind of series.

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#25186: Feb 24th 2017 at 6:06:20 PM

What if you give someone the Death Note and tick them off so much so that they want to kill you, but you intentionally spell your name wrong in front of them so they think that's how it's actually spelled?

edited 24th Feb '17 6:06:41 PM by LordVatek

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#25187: Feb 24th 2017 at 6:09:36 PM

Played straight I'd image it would render you unkillable, since they're still spelling your name wrong, but they're obviously not doing it intentionally. I'd image they'd realize something was up after it didn't work the first, or at most, the second time, though.

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#25188: Feb 24th 2017 at 6:12:20 PM

I think this is one of the weakest one so far. It feels too in-jokey compared to the rest (which also had in-jokes but could still be funny to others out of the loop regardless) and was overall just kind of boring.

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#25189: Feb 24th 2017 at 6:20:01 PM

That would probably not work. The rules say that it has to be the owner who writes the name wrong four times for it to take effect. That would constitute lending; you retain ownership, but another person is temporarily using your Death Note.

You could transfer ownership to the person but, by relinquishing your ownership, you would immediately lose all knowledge of the Death Note.

Also, for added lulz: shinigami can see the time of a person's lifespan counting down to the moment of their death. This isn't, like, natural lifespan of a person if they lived to die of old age. It's strictly how long until they die.

So while Light was doing all this, Ryuk was staring at the fact that Cell is going to die in a couple days anyway.

Death Note owners can obtain this ability in exchange for half their lifespan but Light is notoriously stingy about the cost and refused to ever take the deal, instead preferring to have underlings make it and using their eye power to his advantage.

edited 24th Feb '17 6:22:14 PM by TobiasDrake

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#25190: Feb 24th 2017 at 6:27:29 PM

I believe the William Defoe face on Ryuk is because William Defoe is slated to play Ryuk in an upcoming live-action film. But seriously, fuck people constantly making live-action Death Note. Just stop already, there's like four or five different versions out there, there doesn't need to be any more. Death Note is probably one of the most adapted works of non-live-action fiction into live-action, only rivalled by Batman, Superman, and Spider-Man.

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#25191: Feb 24th 2017 at 6:30:38 PM

Are there? I only know about the three movies, and those are a series.

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#25192: Feb 24th 2017 at 6:34:43 PM

Somehow I got confused and thought the movies were in separate continuity. There's actually only the movies, the 2015 television drama, and the aforementioned upcoming 2017 film.

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#25193: Feb 24th 2017 at 6:42:09 PM

Yeah, those three are a series. The first two are an adaptation of the first half of the manga concluding on a fairly clever Gecko Ending. Rather than dying halfway through the story, L is able to unmask Light through a complicated manipulation involving rendering himself unkillable by Light's Death Note...by writing himself into the Death Note first, giving himself the maximum amount of time allowed for the death. 23 days, IIRC.

Then the third movie is a completely original story following the last adventure of L, who is able to embroil himself in a complex and deadly mystery about this poison toxin or something? I forget, it's been a while, but the point is that because the precise time and date of his own death is now set in stone within the Death Note and it cannot be altered by natural events, he's basically able to act as an immortal superhero in an otherwise impossible case.

edited 24th Feb '17 6:44:31 PM by TobiasDrake

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#25194: Feb 24th 2017 at 6:49:13 PM

I am fairly sure that's not how the note works.

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#25195: Feb 24th 2017 at 6:53:25 PM

[up][up]That sounds pretty interesting.

Then again, the book also specifies that it kills "humans" many, many times so I'm not sure it would even work on Cell in the first place.

Well TFS Cell has human cells in him, right? Perhaps that's why he only got a heart attack in one of his hearts, instead of all of them.

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#25196: Feb 24th 2017 at 6:57:50 PM

This isn't, like, natural lifespan of a person if they lived to die of old age. It's strictly how long until they die.

So while Light was doing all this, Ryuk was staring at the fact that Cell is going to die in a couple days anyway.

That made me think of something. Does Cell have a natural lifespan? If he had won the Cell Games and gone a-murdering around the universe, would his cells eventually break down some time way into the future or would he just live forever until he finally ran into Beerus or something and got himself killed?

edited 24th Feb '17 6:58:26 PM by KnownUnknown

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#25197: Feb 24th 2017 at 6:58:27 PM

[up][up][up] Rule 9.

The Death Note will not affect those under 780 days old.

The Death Note will be rendered useless if the victim's name is misspelled four times.

Rule 35 clarifies what Rule 9 meant about the Death Note being "rendered useless".

If a Death Note owner accidentally misspells a name four times, that person will be free from being killed by the Death Note. However, if they intentionally misspell the name four times, the Death Note owner will die.

The person whose name was misspelled four times on purpose will not be free of death by a Death Note.

edited 24th Feb '17 6:59:11 PM by TobiasDrake

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#25198: Feb 24th 2017 at 6:59:02 PM

Cell's a human in all versions (same as Goku, Freeza etc). He just lacks the cells of Earthlings.

Human in Dragon Ball/Death Note = Ningen (人間) which is applied to all humanoid mortals. Jinzoningen (Artificial Humans) could be discounted as being human, but they're commonly lumped in with them.

[up] Not the rule I was disputing. I was disputing the "L can't die until the Death Note kills him"

edited 24th Feb '17 7:00:15 PM by Saiga

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#25199: Feb 24th 2017 at 7:01:28 PM

This one is probably the weakest one since the main punchline ended up falling flat. I'm thinking so far it goes

Kenshiro > Pharoh > Yusuke > Sonic & Knuckles > Ryu & Ken > Light

Hypothetically, there should be two more left.

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#25200: Feb 24th 2017 at 7:03:43 PM

Ah, that. That's based on the immutability of the Death Note's death. Once your name has been written into the Death Note, you will die. If a cause of death is written and is possible, it will occur. Throughout the series, this is ironclad. The Death Note effectively shapes fate. There is no resisting it. Circumstances will conspire to bring the outcome about if it is at all possible.

Which is precisely what L takes advantage of in the third movie. If he were to die before his 23 days are up, then the events he's written into the Death Note of himself passing away peacefully in his sleep could not transpire. Thus, circumstances conspire to keep him alive until the point when he can die as is written.

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