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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM
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Mr. Ovington has less than half a dozen scenes, <- comma but...
...from in the Deadly Distant Finale of...
Edited by Arivne on Jun 3rd 2023 at 11:15:49 AM
For Audience-Alienating Era and Seasonal Rot Anime And Manga:
- The Kindaichi Case Files:
- The R series becomes poorly received by both old and new fans because of cheap murder tricks and motives that are too disproportionate towards the murdered victims, especially "the Drifting Fire Fox Murder Case", which is solely caused by a punishment prank-induced accidental collateral murder.
- The first two cases of Time Skip Sequel Series the 37 Years Old Kindaichi Case Files suffers a backlash from old fans because of a major Status Quo change that subverts Comic-Book Time and becomes realistically boring/dull. Hajime Kindaichi becomes a 37 years old adult Salary Man who is as pathetic as in his high school daysnote . To make it worse, he becomes jaded and doesn't want to solve cases anymorenote , because the last case that involved Reika Hayami (when he was 17 years old) was so fatal and traumatic that he completely loses his drive towards solving case for 20 years. The events of the "30th Anniversary" series (which takes place when Hajime is 17 years old) that lead to the "37 Years Old" series, the long absence of the franchise's main heroine Miyuki Nanase until chapter 97 a.k.a. the first episode of "Schwarz Village Werewolf Game Murder Case", both Hajime and Miyuki remain single for 20 years and having a newly introduced main heroine substitute Marin Hayama certainly don't help.
Edited by Minorica on Jun 3rd 2023 at 11:47:20 PM
"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."Thanks Arivne. Some examples for Once Upon a Time S3 E5 "Good Form"
- Broken Base: The kiss scene between Hook and Emma in this episode is a major point of contention within the fandom even to this day. There is one camp who find it super romantic and a good next step in their romance, especially due to Jennifer Morrison and Colin O'Donoghue's chemistry. However, there is also a large camp that find it more creepy than romantic, and feel that it is out of place in a season where Emma is otherwise more focused on saving her son than romance. Even years later, this scene is the subject of major flame wars.
- Ron the Death Eater: A lot of fans like to try to act like Hook manipulates an unwilling Emma into kissing him through emotional blackmail due to saving her, even though in the episode the scene makes it clear that she wanted to kiss him and it is presented as playful.
- Unintentionally Unsympathetic: Hook and Emma kissing after Hook saves her father is supposed to be charming and romantic, but a lot of fans find it a bit hard to swallow on Hook's end. The sticking point is Hook seemingly pressing Emma for the kiss due to saving her dad, basically asking for a reward for doing the right thing, even if that was not the intention. While it's meant to be a flirty little back and forth between the two, some of Hook's dialogue, such as "That's all your father's life is worth to you?", reads as accidentally manipulative. Add to this Emma originally turning down kissing him, and you have the reason a lot of fans see it as creepy instead of romantic.
Any corrections?
Edited by Bullman on Jun 3rd 2023 at 1:16:09 PM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup threadThanks Arivne.
My autocorrect always changed allies to Allie’s; sometimes, I miss it when I return to fix that stuff.
@ The End of the World (FernWithy)
- Haymitch says "The Hanging Tree" was a popular song during the Dark Days after the Capitol hung Rebel Leaders from every district, but the prequel novel says the song was only written ten years after the war ended.
@ The End of the World (FernWithy)
- Cinna and Portia's whole relationship, both romantic and professional, has lots of sweet moments, especially given how this version of Portia is a citizen of District 3 who Cinna helped get Capitol citizenship.
- All of the scenes of Effie meeting Cinna and being impressed by his work and supportive of his goals to rise up as a stylist.
- Gale, Delly and Leevy's brother play a pretend game of soldiers in the town square, and after miming being hit and mortally wounded, Vick Hawthorne declares his love for a girl in his class named Dianner and dramatically hands over a keepsake to give her. Dianner then deals herself into the game by saying that she's a medic with Capitol medicine like the kind that saved Peeta, and proclaims Vick cured.
- Despite District 2's anger toward Katniss and Peeta, District 2 Victors Otho Magro and Enobaria Fells still say hi to Haymitch during the Victory Tour (Enobaria is a bit passive-aggressive but Otho seems sincere).
- Peeta spending time with his newborn baby niece and caring about keeping her out of the public eye in the hopes of keeping her safe from any blowback from President Snow against Katniss, Peeta, and their loved ones.
- Enobaria and her brother Janus volunteering to help rescue Peeta, Annie, and Johanna.
@ The End of the World (FernWithy)
- Haymitch's perspective of Thread's actions as the new head Peacekeeper doesn't get too much attention but can feel nerve-wracking. He reflects on the horrible actions of Lucretia Beckett almost 25 years earlier and realizes that Thread may actually be worse given how he isn't prone to sadistic mind games like Beckett but will just shoot or burn out anyone he feels like hurting without any delay. When Hob denizens Greasy Sae, Wenna, and Claude ask him what advice he has as a survivor of Beckett's reign of terror, Haymitch is helpless to suggest anything besides the Captain Obvious suggestion that they keep their heads down.
@ The End of the World (FernWithy)
- After being put out of business, moonshiner Ripper claims to have seen the error of her ways and that she is starting an AA group for her old customers that will be held in a secret location to protect their dignity. Everyone can tell that this really means that she's still selling alcohol in hidden locations and just wants plausible deniability.
- When Haymitch offers to be a courier after Lizabee the apothecary offers to give Ruth rubbing alcohol for Thread's victims, Lizabee finds the idea of trusting him not to drink the alcohol worthy of Tension-Cutting Laughter.
@ The End of the World (FernWithy)
- The melee between the Careers in the 71st Hunger Games (ending with implied Rebel sympathizer Otho Magro from District 2 as the Victor) takes place after they spend days huddled together to conserve warmth while waiting for everyone else to freeze to death in the Arctic arena. The ordinary Inevitable Mutual Betrayal nature of Career alliances is bad enough, but having to fight your allies after all of you go through that together rather than hunting and fighting other kids for several days feels especially grim.
- Mauve Shirt Rogue Squadron pilots Andurgo and Ronto are both shot down in the final battle, but given the nature of aerial combat, it's possible one or both may have had time to bail out first.
- Despite only appearing in one Star Wars (Marvel 1977) annual and a short story, Imperial dark Jedi Kharys made a decent splash for being a winged Green-Skinned Space Babe who has an interesting history with Darth Vader and impressive Air Jousting skills.
- Daddy's Little Villain Sith apprentice Saarai only speaks in two issues but is memorable for Kicking Ass in All Her Finery in a fight against a far more seasoned opponent.
- Retired Badass, Eyepatch of Power-sporting Saloon Owner Queen Jool, and Sacred Hospitality-honoring Benevolent Boss Azzim only appear in five and two issues, respectively but warrant some respect for being low nuanced and respectable Hutts.
- Sadistic vampires or not, Anzat Battle Couple Sint and Nakia Yoru make an impression by being involved in some interesting combat scenes and having Evil Is Sexy designs.
- Retired Badass Codi Sunn-Childe only appears in one issue, but his array of mystical powers and the nuanced discussion he prompts regarding the imperfections of both complete pacifism and Blood Knight valor is enjoyable to many fans.
Belly Up
- The prolonged description of how much of a troublemaker Henry the Hippo is. For one thing, he enjoyed shooting sprays of poop at observers (soiling an ambassador, a cabinet member, and the President's daughter at a D.C. zoo). His last owner before FunJungle was a circus who pawned him off to an unsuspecting FunJungle, getting the animal purchasing staff fired after Henry injured a couple of employees and then soiled Pointy-Haired Boss Martin Del Gato in the space of a day or two.
Poached
- Pete referring to the toy koala he is using to cover up the theft of the real koala as the "emergency backup koala".
- While trying to arrest Teddy for questioning, Large Marge and an equally burly local cop trip and fall on top of the toy koala, squashing it in front of horrified tourists (who are no less upset once they learn it was a toy and they were being fooled). Even better, one tourist records the whole thing and posts a slow motion version (giving Marge plenty of time to make an Oh, Crap! face as she falls) online.
Panda-Monium
- Teddy being pantsed by a dolphin while swimming in the dolphin tank and then flipped into the air by the playful mammal before he can put his pants back on.
- A victim of an earlier pantsing by the same dolphin later recalls how he was wearing distinctive trunks that his companion could see being carried away by the dolphin. When she asked if he's just been pantsed, he sheepishly said "Maybe", causing her to laugh so hard that she was barely able to swim back to the tank ladder.
- A bumbling security guard trying to taser a fleeing criminal accidentally trips over a little kid and tasers an old lady (who the criminal then trips over). The way he proudly recounts the story while getting embarrassed at each ridiculous part of it really sells the scene.
Lion Down
- The fish cannon being used to feed the penguins gets knocked up to top speed by accident, with one penguin accidentally being caught in the suction and being launched out of the cannon, becoming "the first penguin in history to fly".
- The Big Bad of the book being covered in a heap of compost.
Tyrannosaurus Wrecks
- The Barksdale twins illegally purchase a pet anaconda and then brag about how they hid it in the back of the family pickup during a search by Fish & Wildlife officials Teddy tipped off. Summer tells the twins that their (equally loutish) parents just got into that pickup for a drive, at which point there are a pair of very high-pitched screams from the pickup, that are audible from several dozen yards away, and the Barksdale parents swerve off the road, crash, and run away as fast as possible due to being startled by the snake's presence.
- The chaos at the shady rival animal theme park Snakes Alive in the climax, when various animals escape due to the actions of the villains when they crash their car at the park.
- The PA announcer tells the guests not to worry, and to let the staff handle things. Teddy notes that (with one exception) every staff member in sight is running away themselves, "often shoving elderly women and children out of their way".
- One of the book's villians ends up taking cover on top of a glass display case of meat, and is convinced that the hyenas drooling over the meat want to eat her.
- An animal smuggler who is the villain of the B-plot tries to hold a rare venomous snake hostage so the police will let him go. Three guesses how that turns out for him, although fortunately, there is a handy supply of antivenom.
Whale Done
- The carcass of a beached whale is blown up, splattering pieces of gore all across the local beach houses (most of whose Upper-Class Twit owners don't come across very positively), and sometimes smashing through windows and getting inside of the houses.
Movie star Jackson Cross: My kitchen! My breakfast nook! My Picasso!
- The main villain mistakes a lemur for an "ugly koala" while taking it hostage with a taser, only to get peed on and then tasered by the frightened lemur. All of this happens at the premier of a new action movie. The producer is rather dazed by the whacky hijinks and, upon learning that this kind of thing constantly happens to Teddy, offers to make a movie about him.
@ Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
- Chekhov's Gunman: He's first mentioned as one of the three brothers who found the Grail in a way which makes it sound like he merely never made it home, and obscures the fact that he is alive as the artifact's guardian.
- Spared by the Adaptation: She makes it out of the cavern alive in two different games adapatating the movie, unlike in the movie itself.
Edited by Melinda on Jun 4th 2023 at 9:30:10 AM
@Arvine: No I am trying.
Dead or Alive, Will get a reboot alongside Ninja Gaiden, though it remains to be seen if they take place in the same universe.
- The Big Guy: Monolith from Spawn, He is a very large hellspawn,strong enough to go toe to toe with Spawn, and plays the role of muscle of the Scorched as issue 16.
Edited by fateslay56 on Jun 3rd 2023 at 11:50:36 AM
Hello worldFor Spider-Man: Spider-Verse – Antagonists
- Ascended Extra:
- The Spot / Jonathan Ohnn is a minor Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain in the Spider-Man Rogues Gallery, and as a result has only appeared in one previous piece of Spider-Man media where he was still a minor antagonist (Spider-Man: The Animated Series). This film bumps him to being both the Big Bad and Miles Arch-Enemy which is far above his comic counterparts level of prominence.
@ Melinda
The End of the World (FernWithy)
- Haymitch's perspective of Thread's actions as the new head Peacekeeper doesn't get too much attention but can feel nerve-wracking. He reflects on the horrible actions of Lucretia Beckett almost 25 years earlier and realizes that Thread may actually be worse given how he isn't prone to sadistic mind games like Beckett but will just shoot or burn out anyone he feels like hurting without any delay. When Hob denizens Greasy Sae, Wenna, and Claude ask him what advice he has as a survivor of Beckett's reign of terror, Haymitch is helpless to suggest anything besides the Captain Obvious suggestion that they keep their heads down.
The End of the World (FernWithy)
- After being put out of business, moonshiner Ripper claims to have seen the error of her ways and that she is starting an AA group for her old customers that will be held in a secret location to protect their dignity. Everyone can tell that this really means that she's still selling alcohol in hidden locations and just wants plausible deniability.
The End of the World (FernWithy)
- The melee between the Careers in the 71st Hunger Games (ending with implied Rebel sympathizer Otho Magro from District 2 as the Victor) takes place after they spend days huddled together to conserve warmth while waiting for everyone else to freeze to death in the Arctic arena. The ordinary Inevitable Mutual Betrayal nature of Career alliances is bad enough, but having to fight your allies after all of you go through that together rather than hunting and fighting other kids for several days feels especially grim.
Belly Up
- The prolonged description of how much of a troublemaker Henry the Hippo is. For one thing, he enjoyed shooting sprays of poop at observers (soiling an ambassador, a cabinet member, and the President's daughter at a D.C. zoo). His last owner before FunJungle was a circus who pawned him off to an unsuspecting FunJungle, getting the animal purchasing staff fired after Henry injured a couple of employees and then soiled Pointy-Haired Boss Martin Del Gato in the space of a day or two.
Poached
- While trying to arrest Teddy for questioning, (comma) Large Marge and an equally burly local cop (move text) trip and fall on top of the toy koala, squashing it in front of horrified tourists (who are no less upset once they learn it was a toy and they were being fooled). Even better, one tourist records the whole thing and posts a slow motion version (giving Marge plenty of time to make an Oh, Crap! face as she falls) online.
Panda-Monium
- A victim of an earlier pantsing by the same dolphin later recalls how he was wearing distinctive trunks that his companion could see being carried away by the dolphin. When she asked if he's just been pantsed, he sheepishly said "Maybe", causing her to laugh so hard that she was barely able to swim back to the tank ladder.
- A bumbling security guard trying to taser a fleeing criminal accidentally trips over a little kid and tasers an old lady (who the criminal then trips over). The way he proudly recounts the story while getting embarrassed at each ridiculous part of it really sells the scene.
Lion Down
- The fish cannon being used to feed the penguins gets knocked up to top speed by accident, with one penguin accidentally being caught in the suction and being launched out of the cannon, becoming "the first penguin in history to fly".
Tyrannosaurus Wrecks
- The Barksdale twins illegally purchase a pet anaconda and then brag about how they hid it in the back of the family pickup during a search by Fish & Wildlife officials Teddy tipped off. Summer tells the twins that their (equally loutish) parents just got into that pickup for a drive, at which point there are a pair of very high-pitched screams from the pickup, that are audible from several dozen yards away, and the Barksdale parents swerve off the road, crash, and run away as fast as possible due to being startled by the snake's presence.
- The chaos at the shady rival animal theme park Snakes Alive in the climax, when various animals escape due to the actions of the villains when they crash their car at the park.
- The PA announcer tells the guests not to worry, and to let the staff handle things. Teddy notes that (with one exception) every staff member in sight is running away themselves, "often shoving elderly women and children out of their way".
- One of the book's villians ends up taking cover on top of a glass display case of meat, and is convinced that the hyenas drooling over the meat want to eat her.
Whale Done
- The carcass of a beached whale is blown up, splattering pieces of gore all across the local beach houses (most of whose Upper-Class Twit owners don't come across very positively), and sometimes smashing through windows and getting inside of the houses.
- The main villain mistakes a lemur for an "ugly koala" while taking it hostage with a taser, only to get peed on and then tasered by the frightened lemur. All of this happens at the premiere of a new action movie. The producer is rather dazed by the whacky hijinks and, upon learning that this kind of thing constantly happens to Teddy, offers to make a movie about him.
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
- Spared by the Adaptation: She makes it out of the cavern alive in two different game adaptations of the movie.
Edited by Clare on Jun 4th 2023 at 12:13:39 PM
Thanks Clare.
- Sith Empire Captain Vaclen Tor spends his debut being a strategic Benevolent Boss who singlehandedly turns a Galactic Alliance/Fel Empire Curb-Stomp Battle into a near Pyrrhic Victory and leaves the battle with experiences that implicitly cause him to be more respectful toward Stazi and more contemptuous of Fel. Nonetheless, he (or rather, his voice over a command channel during a battle) only appears in a single subsequent issue.
- He's Just Hiding: Femme Fatale Rachael Rhodes from Atomic Lobster is one of the few people whose killing be Serge doesn’t really sit right with many fans due to her not doing anything worse than attacking Serge and Coleman in justifiable anger at learning they killed her sister ten years ago. Since her Never Found the Body death involves falling off a cruise ship while suffocating on fire extinguisher foam, it can be nice to hope that she somehow survived.
Edited by Melinda on Jun 4th 2023 at 9:15:19 AM
Luigi
- Adaptational Dumbass: Compared with his game counterpart, where he is as smart as Mario, Luigi is written as having a lot less common sense. When Spike mockingly asks the brothers if they have ever received a phone call for their business, Luigi explains their mom called to praise their commercial.
- The Ditz: Luigi definitely did not get the brains between him and his brother. When Spike mocking asks the brothers if they got any calls since they started their plumbing business, Luigi brags that their mom called to praise their comcercial before attempting to do a Mic Drop with the phone in his hand by smashing it on the ground, forgetting that he he was smashing his own phone.
Donkey Kong
- Curb-Stomp Battle: His fight with Mario starts off as a one sided beating, with the few blows Mario does land having no effect. He is on the receiving end when Mario gets the Cat Suit.
- Famed in Story: Donkey Kong is popular with the residents of the Jungle Kingdom and is implied to be respected outside of it, given Peach thinks Mario agreeing to fight him is a mistake.
- No-Sell: Mario does manage to land a few punches on DK, but they have no effect.
- Pet the Dog: Despite being a Sore Loser from his loss to Mario, he still saves him from falling off Rainbow Road once Mario's kart is destroyed.
Bowser
- Right for the Wrong Reasons: Bowser is concerned about Mario derailing his plans because he thinks Mario is dating Peach and has no idea that Mario is instead opposing him to rescue Luigi.
- Immortals Fear Death: Rare nonvillainous example after his Heel–Face Turn. The Collector does not initially understand death and sees it as something he can undo until Luz seemingly dies, saving him from Belos. He is devastated by the realization of what it truly means to watch someone die, but realizing how fragile life is, he risks his own life to ensure nobody else dies.
- Invincible Villain: Outside of an adult Titan, the Collector is out of the league of anything in the Demon Realm. The primary thing keeping him from killing the heroes is that he doesn't want to kill them. Even with that handicap, they still cannot defeat the Collector, just convince him to give up.
- Light Is Good: Post Heel–Face Turn. He has a light motif with his outfit and will risk his life to help others.
- Red Herring: He is initially implied to have been the one who imprisoned the Owl Beast. Gradually it is implied and eventually confirmed that one of the Archivists was responsible.
The New Adventures Of Winnie The Pooh S 1 E 5 The Piglet Who Would Be King
- Everyone Has Standards: Tigger, Rabbit, and Piglet encounter a hyena who laughs at everything, and even Tigger feels the hyena has a few screws loose.
- Oh, Crap!: When Rabbit asks the band of monkeys for directions to The Land of Milk and Honey, they are spooked by it, and the conductor orders a retreat after confirming Rabbit made the mistake of saying that name out loud.
The New Adventures Of Winnie The Pooh S 1 E 7 The Great Honey Pot Robbery
- The Cuckoo Lander Was Right: Pooh doesn't believe that Heffalumps and Woozles are all bad and questions why they cannot share honey. Everyone else treats him like an idiot for this idea. Even when Wooster shows up, Pooh tries to befriend the huge woozle who wants to steal from him. This works.
- Good Is Bad And Bad Is Good: Stan is a Card-Carrying Villain who believes that Woozles should always be jerks and get honey by stealing it. So he is disgusted when Wooster starts being polite.
- Stupid Evil: For a given definition of evil since Stan and Heff are just common thieves. Pooh is happy to share his honey, but Stan insists on getting the honey by stealing it and hates the idea of having friends. The result is that Stan and Heff get no honey as Pooh's kindness convinces Wooster to be his friend, and the smaller thieves have no way of dealing with the giant.
Winnie-the-Pooh — Antagonists Heff Heffalump and Stan Woozle
- Card-Carrying Villain: Stan insists that Woozles always get honey by stealing it and is disgusted by Wooster getting honey by asking.
- Stupid Evil: For their small scale villainy at least. Pooh is willing to share his honey, but Stan insists on stealing it. This bites him and Heff in the ass because Pooh's kindness convinces Wooster to be his friend. Since Stan and Heff cannot defeat the giant Woozle, this leaves them with no honey.
- Anti-Climax Boss: Hades. To even reach him, the player has to play one of the higher two difficulty levels. Given the challenging penultimate level, "Passageways of Eternal Torment," the fight with Hades is a letdown in comparison. He only has one attack, launching a fireball, which has a noticeable wind, and hitting him will prevent him from using it. Even if he throws it, it is not that hard to avoid. The only other hazard is the flames that come down from the ceiling, which are also to dodge.
- That One Boss: Nessus, since the only way to hurt him is to jump on his back in a Mythology Gag to the movie. There is no indication the player is supposed to do this since no other enemy in the game is harmed by jumping on them.
@Minorica
The R series was poorly...especially "The Drifting...
The first two cases of Time Skip Sequel Series the 37 Years Old Kindaichi Case Files suffers a backlash from old fans because of a major Status Quo change that subverts Comic-Book Time and becomes realistically boring/dull. Hajime Kindaichi becomes a 37 years old adult Salary Man who is as pathetic as in his high school daysnote at least he becomes more modest, <- comma unlike his much more perverted younger self. However, his Accidental Pervert nature still exists. To make it worse, he becomes jaded and doesn't want to solve cases anymorenote at least in the first case "Uta Island Resort Murder Case", with his reluctance towards solving cases gradually diminishing as the story progresses, because the last case that involved Reika Hayami (when he was 17 years old) was so fatal and traumatic that he completely loses his drive towards solving cases for 20 years. The events of the "30th Anniversary" series (which takes place when Hajime is 17 years old) that lead to the "37 Years Old" series, the long absence of the franchise's main heroine Miyuki Nanase until chapter 97 a.k.a. the first episode of "Schwarz Village Werewolf Game Murder Case", both Hajime and Miyuki remain single for 20 years and having a newly introduced main heroine substitute Marin Hayama certainly doesn't help.
@fateslay56
Dead or Alive <- no comma will get a reboot...
Monolith from Spawn. <- period He is a very large hellspawn, <- space strong enough to go toe to toe with Spawn, and plays the role of muscle of the Scorched as of issue 16.
^ This was a run-on sentence
connected together by a comma splice
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...forgetting that he he was smashing his own phone.
...who believes that Woozles should always be jerks and get honey by stealing it, <- comma so he...
For a given definition of evil, <- comma since...get no honey, <- comma as...
For their small scale villainy, <- comma at least.
Compared to the...letdown in comparison. He only has one attack, launching a fireball, which has a noticeable wind, and...also possible to dodge.
^ "which has a noticeable wind" is not correct English and appears to be unnecessary.
There is no indication the player is supposed to do this, <- comma since no other...
Edited by Arivne on Jun 4th 2023 at 8:25:44 AM
@miraculous
The Spot/Jonathan Ohnn...Spider-Man Rogues' Gallery...and Miles' Arch-Enemy, <- comma which...comic counterpart's level of prominence.
^ Spot[=/=]Jonathan -> Spot/Jonathan. This allows you to use slashes without triggering TV Tropes' Wiki Word programming.
Edited by Arivne on Jun 4th 2023 at 8:11:21 AM
Okay sorry how about this
- Red Is Heroic: Monolith is shown to want to stop the Planet Eaters, who destroyed his world, and teams up with the Scorched to save the Earth.
Edited by fateslay56 on Jun 5th 2023 at 7:14:44 AM
Hello worldThanks Arivne
@ The End of the World (FernWithy)
- The rebellious Butterfly Skaggs insists on wearing a Mockingjay feather during the tribute parade as a subtle sign of defiance against the Capitol.
@ The End of the World (FernWithy)
- Butterfly Skaggs asks Effie if she was deliberately reaped as punishment for her and her father's anti-Capitol politics and (relatively mild) acts of defiance. Looking at Butterfly's face, Effie suspects that a "yes" answer might upset her but that a "no" wouldn't be comforting either.
It gives them a sense of control, even where there is none. Being reaped becomes an act of rebellion, or an act, at least, of recognition that they've caused trouble. It proves to them that something they or their parents have done has been so powerful that it's caught the attention of the government and the Gamemakers. I think of Haymitch dismissing their window-breaking and slogan-writing as "calling each other rebels." It's all they can do. And to tell her that I doubt the Capitol even noticed a tiny disruption like that would be devastating. She needs to believe that what she's done is important.
@ The End of the World (FernWithy)
- Retired Monster: Head Peacekeeper Cray was the second-in-command of his predecessor, Lucretia Beckett, during the Day of the Jackboot where they starved and browbeat the population of District 12 with nonstop whipping and hangings and occasional other acts of brutality like arson. In those days, Cray also engaged in random acts of cruelty for his own amusement, like when he forged a letter from ex-Peacekeeper Justinian Benz to Mir (Justinian’s daughter with a District 12 woman) and called her as a desperate, unintelligent, unwanted bastard who should go to work as a prostitute. By the time of the 74th Hunger Games (like in canon), Cray never bothers to enforce regulations against poaching and other crimes due to laziness and a desire to constantly stuff his face with contraband wild turkey and could almost pass for a benign Punch-Clock Villain if not for his dark past and how he pays desperate women to have sex with him when their only other option is starvation.
Given how Coleman's explicit death is later retconned, it can occasionally be nice to hope that other characters who seem dead are really alive.
Temporarily inhaling some water could have even saved her life (assuming she coughed it up) by potentially cleansing out the foam.
- In Cadillac Beach, Master Actor Doug, a particularly impressive villain, is shown falling to the ground after being shot in the chest, but the word dead is never used.
- In Torpedo Juice, Gaskin Fussels/DEA Agent Wilson getting an anticlimactic "fatal wound to the head" can feel disappointing after his Obfuscating Stupidity Good All Along undercover cop antics, and it can be nice to wonder if that line just meant potentially fatal and not actually fatal.
- At the beginning of Tropic of Stupid, Nathan Sparrow is an ambulance-chasing workaholic lawyer and fundraiser for slimy politicians. The sudden death of his Parental Substitute and a disgruntled client trying to ruin Nathan's daughter's career makes Nathan reevaluate his life. He quits his job, makes restitution to people he has wronged, destroys the career of the man who went after his daughter, and takes up a Call to Agriculture.
- Fanon Discontinuity: Orange Crush can feel slightly more enjoyable if you ignore the scenes that confirm that Amnesiac Hero (or rather, amnesiac sidekick) Jack is Serge. Serge and his trademark actions aren’t terribly relevant for the otherwise standalone and unusually character-driven story, and Jack being Serge means that the Pair the Spares romance he gets into will experience a Happy Ending Override once the book ends.
- In Atomic Lobster:
- Jim and Martha Davenport are on a cruise ship and listen to Jim and Girl of the Week Rachael having loud and rough sex in the cabin next door while pretending to be Batman and Catwoman, and Serge keeps audibly mentioning how Jim talked about his own bad sex life when he and Serge were in the same support group. Martha tries to start copying Rachael's lines to engage in foreplay with a flustered Jim, only to be humiliatingly distracted when Serge and Rachael start loudly roleplaying as exaggerated versions of the Davenports.
Rachael roleplaying as Martha: Give me that tiny needle-dick of yours.Serge roleplaying as Jim Is this the right hole?- Serge and Coleman are keeping Jim under surveillance to protect him from a hitman in one scene, and Coleman keeps track of a bunch of people in kayaks and canoes who are paddling nearby. Then, Serge is briefly alarmed to realize all of those people have paddled over to his house before realizing that they're just watching Shameless Fanservice Girl Rachael sunbathing naked.
- The whole scene where Plastic Man shows off his cut-rate Batcave (a messy garage) and dramatically deputizes a sidekick "By the power I’ve invested in me."
@ Batman: The Brave and the Bold
- Bit Part Bad Guy Planet Master only gets two cameos, but his interesting array of abilities and Large Ham attitude make him a decently remembered Unexpected Characters.
Edited by Melinda on Jun 5th 2023 at 2:06:35 AM
For The Game Never Stopped Anime And Manga:
- The Kindaichi Case Files:
- "Castle of Wax Murder Case" from the "File" series has Hajime Kindaichi, after being strong-armed into a mystery night event at a secluded castle in Nagano Prefecture by Akechi (with additional provocative coaxing from Miyuki and Saki to boot), entering the castle in question with Miyuki and Akechi, along with several other contestants. Though they enter the event as contestants for a make-believe murder mystery, a real serial murder mystery soon gets underway and puts their deduction skills to the test...
- "House of Games Murder Case" from the "New" series features the main characters and other participants joining a Deadly Game-themed game show. However, 2 of the participants get killed off.
- "Werewolf Game Murder Case" from the "37 Years Old" Time Skip pseudo-Sequel Series has Hajime and Marin being assigned by their PR company manager to host a werewolf game (sponsored by a streaming company) in Weiss Castle, Schwarz Village, the abandoned theme park in Nagano Prefecture with chosen participants. However, the culprit (the "Real Werewolf") is among them and some participants get killed off for real.
Edited by Minorica on Oct 22nd 2023 at 3:36:38 PM
"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."Here is another attempt one from Spawn again.
- Came Back Wrong: Wanda Blake. In a possible future appearance she appears to have undergo a complete change, Wearing a dark dress, blindfold in her eyes, and having horns. Brimestone in King Spawn 16 hints that something happened to her likely during the time of rapture and cataclysm’s reigns.
Edited by fateslay56 on Jun 5th 2023 at 9:32:25 AM
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@Melinda
...Effie suspects that a "yes" answer might upset her...
...where she starved and browbeat the population of District 12 with nonstop whipping and hangings <- no comma and occasional other acts of cruelty like arson. In those days, Cray also engaged in random acts of cruelty for his own amusement, like when he forged a letter from ex-Peacekeeper Justinian Benz to Mir (Justinian’s daughter with a District 12 woman) and called her as a desperate, unintelligent, unwanted bastard who should go to work as a prostitute. By the time of the main trilogy <- no comma (like in canon), <- comma Cray never bothers to enforce regulations against poaching and other crimes due to laziness and a desire to constantly stuff his face with contraband wild turkey and could almost pass for a benign Punch-Clock Villain if not for how he pays desperate women to have sex with him when their only other option is starvation.
Given how Coleman's explicit death is later retconned and, it...
...(assuming she coughed it up) by cleansing out the foam.
In Cadillac Beach, [[spoiler:Master Actor Doug]] is...
In Torpedo Juice, [[spoiler:Gaskin Fussels/DEA Agent Wilson]] getting...
Tim Dorsey In Atomic Lobster. <- period Jim and Martha Davenport are on a cruise ship and listen to Jim and Girl of the Week Rachael having loud and rough sex in the cabin next door <- no comma while...
...that they're just watching on Shameless Fanservice Girl...
The whole scene where Plastic Man shows off his cut-rate Batcave (a messy garage)...

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Not only do its themes about love, empathy, and compassion really resonate with members of the community, <- comma but LGBT fans immediately notice some queer themes and subtext in Unico's relationships with...
Unico is dearly loved by queer, pansexual, and bisexual fans due to his feminine design and being openly comfortable dressing in or wearing female makeup <- no comma and accessories and displaying effeminate behavior.
...believe him to be non-binary since the character's gender is never mentioned in any dub of the movie, <- comma while some theorize...
...dub, <- comma who shares similar personality traits, <- comma including compassion towards everyone.
Edited by Arivne on Jun 3rd 2023 at 8:40:16 AM