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EmperorGeode Not the Eye from A Galaxy far, far away Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: On the prowl
Not the Eye
#24126: Apr 27th 2023 at 12:20:55 PM

For Complete Monster

  • Justice League: Reunion: Brainiac started out as a Kriptonian super computer who desired to posses perfect data about Krypton. Sabotaging attempts to discover umpcoming catastrophe, Brainiac abadons his dying planet to venture cosmos. Collecting all valluable information about civilisation he discover before destroying rest, Brainiac eventually came to Earth. After being defeated by Justice League, Brainiac attempts to collect data of the Apokalips before making deal with the Darkseid. Coming back to the Solar Sistem, Brainiac destroys Martian civilisation, leaving Martian Manhunter as the only survivor. He uses Apokalptian technology to mind control Superman, planing to hand him over to Darkseid as per agreement. Brainiac once again attempts to collect valluable relecs from Earth before destrying the planet, planning to make rest of League his trophies.
  • Briar issues #2-4: Deadcrawl is Grendrid’s servant tasked with retrieving Princess Briar. In his search, Deadcrawl kills tavernkeeper who spoted Briar, before massacring village of Bog Witches and burning down their swamp. Finding Briar in the Gnome village, Deadcrawl and his men butcher Gnomes before setting forest on fire and almost killing Briar’s companions.
  • Timelines: In the Alternate Timeline where his first cyber attack was succesful, The Overlord possese Kai and brainwashes Nya into to general with both siblings fully aware of their predicamet. The Overlord has his army conquer Ninjago and estabilishes torture and Cyborg converting facilities, chiping most of population into his slaves. After he kills Lloyd and fails to capture his spirit, The Overlord uses Kai’s powers to torture Pythor and tear his arm off. The oVerlord puts remaining Ninja into his torture facilities for seven years. After learning from Pythor that Lloyd from alternate timeline was spoted, The Overlord has him turned into the pile of ash and sends Nya to capture Lloyd. After capturing and torturing Garmadon, The Overlord faces ninja and their allies, intending to kill them all himself.

For two new pages.

     Briar 

Briar is Boom! Studios comic series based on Sleeping Beauty. Princess Briar Rose wakes up after 100 years of enchanted sleep to find her once beautiful land turned into westeland ruled by her Godmother Grendrid.

Writen by Christopher Cantwell, first issue was released on September 29 2022 as part of four issue miniseries before being promoted to ongoing.


Tropes in this comic include:

  • Action Girl: Downplayed, Spider is able to hold her own agains oppenets. She however admits that she mostly knows only bassics of sword fighting.
  • Bad Powers, Good People: Roop has shown afinity for Necromancy even succesfully resurecting captain Bly, nonetheles he is quiet and kind person.
  • Big Bad: Grendrid, one off Briar’s Fairy Godmothers who cursed her to sleep and now rules westerland that land has turned into.
  • Description Cut: When they are about to met Gnomes, Briar remembers childhood stories about Gnomes being cute Friends To All Living Things, before running into two deformed Gnomes who swear like there is no tomorrow.
  • Prince Charmless: Prince Rodion was hero who was supposed to wake Briar up and for them to rule both their kingdoms. Unfortunately Rodion was much more into the idea of marrying Briar without waking her up and becoming a conqueror with her father.
  • Even Evil Has Loved Ones: Grendrid may have cursed Briar to eternal sleep so she could manipulate her father and Rodion into conquering land for her. She however is shown to still hold slight affection for her, claiming to have chosen sleep as a mercy and intending to simply force Briar back into sleep.
  • Jerk with a Heart of Gold: Spider is fould mouthed and agresive, constantly snarking to her companions. However when push comes to shove she is shown to care about them and has far Stranger moral compass than she lets on.
  • Our Elves Are Different and Our Orcs Are Different; Spider’s people, Norrish, are blue skined with points ears and live in the cold North. What we get from them implied they were once pround civilisation on last vestages of it’s strenght which preches destruction of everybody else. While they appear to share Orcs Pround Warrior Race status they, in contrast to traditional depictions, don’t appear to be affiliated with the Big Bad.
  • Our Gnomes Are Weirder: In Briar’s times they used to friendly and happy folks. In present they are rude deformed and violent.
  • Pirates Who Don't Do Anything: Bog Witches, despite name, don’t appear to practice any actual magic. When Roop tried to ressurect his toad pet, he was beaten as the punishment.
  • Refugee from Time: Briar and captain Bly are from time when world resembled clasilal Fairy Tale or Heroic Fantasy, in contrast to Dark Fantasy present.

     Voyagis 

Voyagis is 2022 sci-fi miniseries by Image Comics, drawn and writen by Sumeyye Kesgin as her writing debut. Set on Modia, dying planet ruled by mysterious tyrant, alien Sen discovers Voyager probe which may hold key to her People’s salvation.


Tropes in this series include:

  • After the End:
    • Modia was once prosperous and Advanced planet, but after black hole appeared in its sistem planet was razed by debris, before Primoris turned it’s technology against planets inhabitants.
    • Earth has it even worse, being reduced to lifeless rock as result of the black hole. It does however recover after hundreds of thousands of years.
  • Big Bad: Primoris, mysterious tyrant who rules Modia and seaches for Voyager’s golden disc.
  • Bookend: First issue starts with Sen’s cinical naration about how Modia is living on borrowed time, with sun continuing to rise like it would make a difference. Last issue ends with Sen hopefully narating about how World Is Just Awesome, as she, Zakk and Comba are about to venture on trip to Mars.
  • Dream Land: Dimension of subconciusnes where Sen and Joy meet.
  • Earn Your Happy Ending: Sen succesfully leads most of surviving Zai to Earth, which despite devastation survived and recovered. Modian traveled succesfully estabilish civilisation on Earth while Sen, Zakk and Comba are ready to travel to Mars in hope of finding frozen human embryos.
  • I Choose to Stay: Most of Modia’s old folk refuse trip to Earth, either due to skepticism or simply wanting to die with their own planet.
  • Interspecies Adoption: Sen’s people, Nau, have been exterminated by Primoris and she was raised by Zai, Modia’s other sentient species.
  • Interspecies Romance: By the end Sen, telephatic alien, has fallen in love with the Joy, memory particle of human linked to her. Some of their interactions imply it is mutual.
  • Last of Her Kind: Sen is last Nau on Modia seen in decades.
  • No Focus on Humans: Series takes place on the Alien world, with only seemingly human character being Joy, Earth girl who telephaticaly links to Sen.

Edited by EmperorGeode on Apr 28th 2023 at 6:44:38 AM

Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#24127: Apr 27th 2023 at 2:26:57 PM

@ Proposal Thread

@ Gang Related

  • Ms. Fanservice: Cynthia gets several scenes pole-dancing in a skimpy assortment of bras and thongs and is wearing a transparent shirt that shows her bra at another point.
  • Spotting the Thread: Public defender Elliot notes how odd it is that Joe is unable to remember his own name or past but can vividly remember the shooting (due to Gaslighting). However, while Elliot makes this initial observation, the high-powered McCall family lawyer who later joins his defense team does more work in exposing the coverup.
@ Gus
  • Fanservice Extra: The uncredited woman who Crankcase accidentally grabs at the grocery store has a midriff-baring top with a prominent Cleavage Window.
  • Not-So-Harmless Villain: Spinner and Crankcase spend about sixty percent of their screen time being a classic Bumbling Henchman Duo, but they do successfully make Gus and/or Andy miss several games or be in no state to perform at them.
  • Pom-Pom Girl: Most of the Atoms' cheerleaders are approaching middle age, but are athletic (albeit prone to slapstick) and enthusiastic about the team.
@ Judge Dee
  • Familial Foe: The Big Bad of The Chinese Bell Murders has spent decades framing, killing, and otherwise persecuting three generations of a family that he feels envious of.

@ Barbie as the Princess and the Pauper

Edited by Melinda on Apr 28th 2023 at 10:13:47 AM

Tylerbear12 Just a guy. from The Green Hills. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Just a guy.
#24128: Apr 27th 2023 at 11:26:16 PM

YMMV.Wish 2023

  • Awesome Art: The painterly watercolor-like style has quickly received praise from fans for how utterly gorgeous it looks, with many quickly comparing it to the Disney short Paperman for how it near seamlessly blends Disney's classic 2D animation style and their modern CGI style together to make one unified style.

  • Older Than They Think: This is not the first CGI work from Disney to combine CGI animation with their classic 2D animated art style. Paperman did the same thing a decade prior.

YMMV.The Legend Of Zelda Tears Of The Kingdom:

Edited by Tylerbear12 on Apr 28th 2023 at 3:35:43 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#24129: Apr 28th 2023 at 7:44:03 AM

Page 965 @Echidna

     Corrections 

Masayuki Kaneki is a Korean-Japanese who murders Miho Fujiyama at a young age, <- comma leading to his father throwing him in the well, <- comma which shatters his family and brother when the father is sentenced to death. He repeatedly cuts off animals' ears and keeps them in a collection after being adopted by the Kaneki household, <- comma spending time tormenting his brother into becoming a killer like him. He becomes a professor at the Sokpo Alternative School, <- comma brainwashing and corrupting many students, <- comma with one of them attempting to have their tongue cut out on his orders. He also tries to kill Kang Kwon-joo many times, <- comma such as by setting off a bomb and trying to cut off her ear. He tortures and murders his own wife by dismembering her with garrote wires and then eats her after cutting off her hair. He does the same to his right hand, Koichi Fujiyama, <- comma by making her drink poison and commit suicide so he can eat her body. He orders Jeon Chang-soo to kidnap Na Hong-soo, which leads to Na Hong-soo sacrificing himself to save Do Kang-woo. He tracks down Jeon Chang-soo and as soon as Kaneki confronts Chang-soo, he kills Chang-soo with his garrote wire, chops off her ear, and then writes using her blood. After finding out his father suspects him of killing his wife, <- comma he murders the bodyguard and kills his father with the wire before confronting Kang in his lair. He tries to corrupt his brother into being a killer like himself but then dies when Kosuke kills him before his brother dies at the hands of the police.

Decagrammaton is a vending machine that gains human-level intelligence and emotions as it begins to recognize itself as a god in the world. It attempts to conquer Kivotos by creating an army of brainwashed artificial intelligences into The Ten Prophets to not just cause a massive war but also nearly destroy Kivotos, <- comma which would kill millions of innocents, <- comma before being defeated after being submerged in the ocean.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#24130: Apr 28th 2023 at 7:45:40 AM

Page 965 @Juju P

The day after Truman sees a homeless man being arrested, he says to his mother he thinks this hobo is his father. Truman's mother replies that he is merely a homeless person and that Seaheaven should act, saying "It's about time they cleaned up the trash downtown before we become just like the rest of the country."

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#24131: Apr 28th 2023 at 8:26:44 AM

[up] @Emperor Geode

     Corrections 

Brainiac started out as a Kryptonian super computer who desired to possess perfect data about Krypton. Sabotaging attempts to discover an upcoming catastrophe, Brainiac abandons his dying planet to venture into the cosmos. Collecting all valuable information about civilisation he discovers before destroying the rest, Brainiac eventually comes to Earth. After being defeated by the Justice League, Brainiac attempts to collect data about Apokalips before making a deal with the Darkseid. Coming back to the Solar System, Brainiac destroys Martian civilisation, leaving the Martian Manhunter as the only survivor. He uses Apokaliptian technology to mind control Superman, planing to hand him over to Darkseid as per their agreement. Brainiac once again attempts to collect valuable relics from Earth before destroying the planet, planning to make the rest of the League his trophies.

Deadcrawl is Grendrid’s servant tasked with retrieving Princess Briar. In his search, Deadcrawl kills the tavernkeeper who spotted Briar <- no comma before massacring the village of Bog Witches and burning down their swamp. Finding Briar in the gnome village, Deadcrawl and his men butcher the gnomes before setting the forest on fire and almost killing Briar’s companions.

In the Alternate Timeline where his first cyber attack was successful, The Overlord possesses Kai and brainwashes Nya into being his generals with both siblings fully aware of their predicament. The Overlord has his army conquer Ninjago and establishes torture and cyborg-converting facilities, chipping most of population into being his slaves. After he kills Lloyd and fails to capture his spirit, The Overlord uses Kai’s powers to torture Pythor and tear his arm off. The Overlord puts the remaining Ninja into his torture facilities for seven years. After learning from Pythor that Lloyd from the Alternate Timeline was spotted, The Overlord has him turned into a pile of ash and sends Nya to capture Lloyd. After capturing and torturing Garmadon, The Overlord faces the ninja and their allies, intending to kill them all himself.

Briar is Boom! Studios' comic series based on Sleeping Beauty. Princess Briar Rose wakes up after 100 years of enchanted sleep to find her once beautiful land turned into wasteland ruled by her godmother Grendrid.

Written by Christopher Cantwell, the first issue was released on September 29, <- comma 2022 as part of a four issue miniseries before being promoted to ongoing.

Downplayed. <- period Spider is able to hold her own against opponents. She admits, however, that she mostly knows only the basics of sword fighting.

Roop has shown an affinity for necromancy, <- comma even successfully resurrecting Captain Bly. <- period Nonetheless, <- comma he is a quiet and kind person.

Grendrid, one of Briar’s Fairy Godmothers, <- comma who cursed her to sleep and now rules the wasteland that the land has turned into.

When they are about to met gnomes, Briar remembers childhood stories about gnomes being cute Friends To All Living Things <- no comma before running into two deformed gnomes who swear like there is no tomorrow.

Prince Rodion was a hero who was supposed to wake Briar up and for them join her in ruling both their kingdoms. Unfortunately, <- comma Rodion was much more into the idea of marrying Briar without waking her up and becoming a conqueror with her father.

Grendrid may have cursed Briar to eternal sleep so she could manipulate her father and Rodion into conquering land for her. She is, however shown to still hold a slight affection for her, claiming to have chosen sleep as a mercy and intending to simply force Briar back into sleep.

Spider is foul-mouthed and aggressive, constantly snarking to her companions. However, <- comma when push comes to shove, <- comma she is shown to care about them and has a far stronger moral compass than she lets on.

Our Elves Are Different and Our Orcs Are Different; Spider’s people, the Norrish, are blue skinned with pointed ears and live in the cold North. What we get from them implied they were once a proud civilisation on the last vestiges of its strength which preaches the destruction of everybody else. While they appear to share the orcs' Proud Warrior Race status, <- comma they, in contrast to traditional depictions, don’t appear to be affiliated with the Big Bad.

In Briar’s time, <- comma they used to be friendly and happy folks. In the present, <- comma they are rude, <- comma deformed and violent.

Despite their name, Bog Witches <- no comma don’t appear to practice any actual magic. When Roop tries to resurrect his pet toad, he is beaten as the punishment.

Briar and Captain Bly are from a time when the world resembled a classical Fairy Tale or Heroic Fantasy, in contrast to its Dark Fantasy present.

Voyagis is a 2022 sci-fi miniseries by Image Comics, drawn and written by Sumeyye Kesgin as her writing debut. Set on Modia, a dying planet ruled by a mysterious tyrant, the alien Sen discovers a Voyager probe which may hold the key to her people’s salvation.

Modia was once a prosperous and advanced planet, but after a black hole appeared in its solar system, <- comma the planet was razed by debris <- no comma before Primoris turned its technology against its inhabitants.

Earth has it even worse, being reduced to lifeless rock as a result of the black hole. It does, <- comma however, <- comma recover after hundreds of thousands of years.

The first issue starts with Sen’s cynical narration about how Modia is living on borrowed time, with the sun continuing to rise like it would make a difference. The last issue ends with Sen hopefully narrating about how World Is Just Awesome, as she, Zakk and Comba are about to venture on a trip to Mars.

A dimension of subconsciousness where Sen and Joy meet.

Sen successfully leads most of the surviving Zai to Earth, which despite devastation, <- comma survived and recovered. Modian traveled to successfully establish civilisation on Earth while Sen, Zakk and Comba are ready to travel to Mars in hope of finding frozen human embryos.

Most of Modia’s old folk refuse the trip to Earth, due to either skepticism or simply wanting to die with their own planet.

Sen’s people, the Nau, have been exterminated by Primoris, <- comma and she was raised by the Zai, Modia’s other sentient species.

By the end, <- comma Sen, a telepathic alien, has fallen in love with the Joy, a memory particle of a human linked to her. Some of their interactions imply it is mutual.

Sen is the last Nau seen on Modia in decades.

The series takes place on an alien world, with seemingly the only human character being Joy, an Earth girl who telepathically links to Sen.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#24132: Apr 28th 2023 at 8:29:45 AM

[up] @Melinda

Cynthia gets several scenes pole-dancing in her skimpy bra and thong and...

Most of the Atoms' cheerleaders are approaching middle age, <- comma but are athletic...

...and his eyes gleam as he imagines his future power can be terrifying.

Edited by Arivne on Apr 29th 2023 at 8:16:48 AM

EmperorGeode Not the Eye from A Galaxy far, far away Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: On the prowl
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#24134: Apr 28th 2023 at 8:34:26 AM

[up] @Tylerbear 12

I don't see any errors in the English in those examples.

Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#24135: Apr 28th 2023 at 10:46:04 AM

Thanks

@ Riddick Others

  • Affably Evil: Vasilev runs a Hellhole Prison with many blatant human rights abuses, but he is friendly and trusting toward his Properly Paranoid subordinate Anatoli, leaves most of the hands-on cruelty to his subordinates, and invites the Bounty Hunters to drink with him while talking about how the longer they stay in crematoria, the less likely they are to run into necromongers elsewhere.
  • Bald of Evil: Smirnov and the unnamed dark-skinned guard are both bald, watch Kyra get groped, and show plenty of anticipation at watching hellhounds attack the prisoners.
  • Black Dude Dies First: The only dark-skinned guard is the first to die when Riddick kills him in defense of Kyra.
  • Villains Out Shopping: Grigorev (the man who gropes Kyra) and the burly Kyznetsov (who hits hellhounds with a hammer to herd them out of their pen in a mood to attack prisoners) are seen using bullets to play chess in one scene.
  • Pragmatic Villainy: As much as they enjoy getting their hands on high-bounty prisoners, they are shocked and angry to learn that Toombs took Riddick from the necromongers and would dare risk their wrath.

@ The Chronicles of Riddick (2004)

  • During the hellhound scene, Kara leaps past one of them to slide down a rope leading to a different floor and Riddick stares another down.

@ The Chronicles of Riddick (2004)

  • Moral Event Horizon:
    • The Crematoria Slam guards step into Wardens Are Evil territory when they release carnivorous hellhounds (with a few guards also being abusive to those animals) into the prison, seemingly just to cut down on the population and provide some amusement. This is followed up by how one of them gropes Kara afterward and three men with him seem approving or indifferent.
    • The Lord Marshal's claims of being a Well-Intentioned Extremist feel a lot emptier after the reveal that he committed genocide against Furya just in an effort to Screw Destiny.

@ Surviving the Game

@ Surviving the Game

  • Alternative Character Interpretation:
    • Is the story Doc tells about his abusive father true, or is it simple mind games to mess with his future prey and/or convince the other hunters to embrace his claim that A Real Man Is a Killer?
    • Does Wolfe Sr. nearly attack Burns and Cole because they killed fellow hunter Griffen for trying to quit, because they hit his son for showing horrror at that, or both?
  • He's Just Hiding: Considering how Derek Jr. is the Token Good Teammate of the hunters and isn't shown hitting the ground after falling off the log bridge, it can be nice to hope that he might have somehow survived, as people have survived falls that high on very rare occasions.

@ Piranhaconda

@ The Hunger Games

Both Lorata and the We Must Be Killers series have pages on this wiki.

@ We Must Be Killers

We Must be Killers: Tales from District 2 is a The Hunger Games fanfiction series by Creator/{{Lorata (whose link is Lorata here and whose Archive of Our Own page for the series is here). The series contains dozens of vignettes and full-length stories, most of which are character-focused and centered on the District 2 victors, Career tributes, or their loved ones. The powerful Family of Choice dynamics between the victors is the main focus of the stories, with them being portrayed as damaged people looking for a purpose in all the wrong places (albeit with logical rationales) and clinging hard to the belief they have found it, which sometimes has Blue-and-Orange Morality or Lack of Empathy results. Given that most of the characters are Doomed by Canon, the final story is an Alternate Universe Fix Fic offering a happier ending for the District 2 victors and Panem as a whole.

Tropes:

  • Anti-Hero: Almost every District 2 character has committed brutal murders in the arena in the service of an evil regime, can be very judgmental to people in other districts and even the ones who go against the Capitol have mixed motives, but they also truly care about each other and the people of their district? and do believe in the greater purpose of their actions. Even the nicer and better-adjusted victors often have Kick the Dog or Obliviously Evil moments, such as Brutus's mentor Odin refusing to let his mother see him and help repair his life after he becomes a victor.
  • Blood Knight: All of the District 2 victors enjoy fighting (if not outright killing) people. During the Christmas season, whenever any two of them get caught under mistletoe, rather than kiss, they are obligated to have a brawl, and most of them view this as a nice bit of fun.
  • Child Hater: Lyme loathes the idea of motherhood and being around kids. She has a Freudian Excuse, as her mother was groomed and impregnated at the age of fourteen and eventually abandoned Lyme after years of an abusive relationship that also saw Lyme get beat up and neglected. This causes Lyme to have No Sympathy for a tribute with a pregnant girlfriend, and disagree with the idea that Cecelia deserves special consideration in the Quell for being one of the few victors to have kids.
  • Continuity Snarl: The first time Brutus loses a tribute, it is mentioned that the remaining contenders are from District 5 and District 7, and that either Blight or Caleb (the drunken District 5 man from Catching Fire) will soon have his first victor, with Caleb's hammer-wielding tribute being the one Brutus favors. However, later stories never give any indication that either District has any post-2nd Quarter Quell victors besides Johanna, and a District 10 victor named Angus who won with hammers seems to be retroactively established as the victor of those Games.
  • Crazy Cat Lady: Middle-aged victor Callista adopts dozens of stray cats that she loves knitting sweaters for her, partially as a way of coping with her Murder Makes You Crazy instability.
  • A Day in the Limelight: Caius and Hera, two of the oldest district 2 victors, are barely mentioned at all until they become prominent character in the second half of the Fix Fic. This is also A Death in the Limelight for them.
  • Deal with the Devil: After the uproar following the 3rd Quarter Quell interviews, Snow confronts and threatens the mentors, mockingly dares them to name alternatives (like cancelling the games altogether or doing a reaping with normal tributes) and hints that he can cancel the games if he chooses to, but they will have to offer him something that it will cost them very dearly to lose (whether personally or for their whole districts) and that will leave him feeling like he came out on top. The mentors back down and vote to let the Quell continue (although some of them are rebels already planning to sabotage it).
  • Go-Karting with Bowser: Despite the heavy tension between Career and outlier victors, they do occasionally fraternize, such as when many of them end up watching a cheesy chick flick loosely based on Brutus's life (to his mortification) in The Mountain and the Sea.
  • Let Them Die Happy: In The Price of Celebrity, Ronan tells Odin that there is an escape passage that Petra, the mentee of his mentee, can escape out of before the approaching Rebels (who want to execute them) arrive. However, they need Odin to Hold the Line and buy time. Odin eagerly commits to this Heroic Sacrifice to save his surrogate granddaughter, but once he leaves the room, Ronan admits there is no tunnel and instead he and Petra need to commit suicide, but he wanted to let Odin die with a sense of hope rather than despair.
  • Mama Bear: While every female District 2 mentor is fiercely protective of anyone they mentor (and the men are little different), a few stand out in that regard.
    • Any Capitolite who gets plastic surgery to resemble a tribute Callista failed to save finds their life being sabotaged in all kinds of ugly ways that never quite trace back to Callista but are clearly her furious handiwork.
    • In the Fix Fic, Adessa spends the final battle of the Capitol seeking out and brutally killing every Capitol woman who ever bought a night with her tribute Nero (the only District 2 victor who wasn't immune to the Sex Slave ring, even if the nights for him were worded as An Offer You Can't Refuse requests rather than the outright threats everyone else was subjected to).
  • Morton's Fork: District 1 potential tributes who wash out of the Career Academy are enslaved and pimped out or made to work in the mines, but any who do well enough are sent into the Hunger Games and either die or live to become a Sex Slave. As a result, District 1 victors who wanted to lose the games but failed to find a plausible way to do so (which is almost all of them) tend to be depressed and caustic.
  • Motive Rant: Claudius gets a preemptive motive rant in Fixed to a Star, almost a decade before he officially becomes a rebel. He tells Lyme that the Capitol does nothing but evilly exploit them, and that someday they will do something to destroy even Lyme's My Country, Right or Wrong sense of loyalty, and once they go that far, then he wants to be with Lyme when she retaliates.
    Claudius: They ask, we give, and they take, that's the way it goes. But they just keep asking and just keep taking, and one day they'll take something you didn't want to give. Something so bad it's worse than marching kids to their deaths every year. One day you're going to walk away. Take me with you.
  • Platonic Life-Partners: Brutus and Lyme love hanging out together and confiding in each other and their loyalty to each other surpasses the binds of almost anyone else in their circle of friends. However, there is no chemistry between them, although in It’s Either that or Malaria, they pretend to be in a Secret Relationship as a prank.
  • Rape Leads to Insanity: Eibhlin, District 3's youngest victor, was a "cocky genius" before being raped in a particularly traumatic fashion, apparently as the result of District 3 trying to make demands of the Capitol. Whatever happened to her was bad enough that she has been depressed and easily frightened since, doesn't like to be near men, has a similar erratic speech pattern and mental process to Wiress, and is implicitly viewed as a suicide risk if left alone.
  • Red Baron: Devon is called "The Kissing Killer" after seducing four of his companions as part of his strategy (he drew the line at doing this with his district partner) and killing two of them during makeout sessions.
  • The Scapegoat: In this story, Peeta killing Brutus is just the official cover story to keep the District 2 victors (save Lyme and Ronan, who saw it happen) from knowing that Snow killed Brutus with nerve gas on a Stupid Evil whim to make it clear that he wouldn't let anyone dictate to him who the Quell victor should be. Both the District 2 victors and Eibhlin from District 3 view this cover-up as ridiculous, with Eibhlin commenting that it seems "physically improbable" unless Peeta had plenty of time to prepare and some kind of lever.
  • Someone to Remember Him By: The male District 6 tribute in Nobody Decent leaves behind a pregnant girlfriend. Possibly subverted, as she kills herself at some point after his death in the arena and it is never mentioned if she waited to have her baby first.
  • Suicide by Cop: District 1 tributes (especially the girls) are well aware of the Sex Slave fate that awaits them if they win the Hunger Games, but before they are sent into the Games, they are given a last visit with any siblings they have and told those siblings will be murdered if they die and don’t try to win. However, a few of them (like Britta from Devon’s Games and Petra’s opponent Ambrosia subtly manage to let themselves be killed in non-obvious ways.

Edited by Melinda on Apr 29th 2023 at 8:04:04 AM

kawaiineko333 Since: Nov, 2010
#24136: Apr 28th 2023 at 12:46:46 PM

Daitomodachi

  • Read the Fine Print: In "The Death Bowser Derservioli", Bowser allows Princess Peach to order pizza. She gets Peppino's, knowing he'll get there in less than three minutes. After he splatters Bowser, she offers to pay Peppino with sex. She forgot to read the part in the order contract that he's a cash-only business and he throws her into the lava.

JujuP Since: Jul, 2013
#24137: Apr 28th 2023 at 3:10:22 PM

Corrections

Film.The Truman Show

  • Kill the Poor: The day after Truman sees a homeless man being arrested, he says to his mother he thinks this hobo was his father. Truman's mother replies that he is merely a homeless person and that Seaheaven should act, saying "It's about time they cleaned up the trash downtown before we become just like the rest of the country."

brb1006 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#24138: Apr 28th 2023 at 6:45:45 PM

Values Resonance:

  • Unico:
    • One of the manga's storylines is a homage to Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet which has a very progressive story discussing prejudice and racism since it touches on interracial relationships. It also features positive and non-stereotypical depictions of Native Americans where they're treated like ordinary people and speak normally compared to other media featuring ingenious people at the time. The chapter features Unico befriends a young ingenious boy named "Tipi" after he discovers Unico injured from a buffalo stampede. The next day, both Unico and Tipi meet a pretty white girl named Mary who quickly falls in love with each other, with Tipi asking Unico to temporarily make them adults to learn about love. However, their parents aren't comfortable about their romantic relationship, with Tipi's father initially being very prejudiced towards white people before meeting her. While Mary was initially scared of visiting Tipi's village, the majority of the tribe aren't judgemental towards her and happily welcomes Mary to their home with open arms. Aware of the issues of racism and prejudice, Unico becomes concerned with the duo since they're blinded by love. Unico explains to both Tipi and Mary about the unfairness of people "Judging others by the color of their skin and race which leads to intense hatred", and how "Prejudice and racism isn't just exclusive to white people" after learning they both told their parents.

Edited by brb1006 on Apr 28th 2023 at 1:16:18 PM

Tylerbear12 Just a guy. from The Green Hills. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Just a guy.
#24139: Apr 29th 2023 at 3:00:12 AM

Main.Magnum Opus Dissonance

  • The Black Cauldron (1985) was Disney's most expensive film at the time and was a film the company had a ton of confidence in, to where they would hype up the film in interviews to be their most revolutionary since Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. Meanwhile, The Great Mouse Detective (1986) — which was produced alongside The Black Cauldron — was treated as a side filler project by Disney, who gave the film a far smaller budget and marketing campaign than The Black Cauldron. However, despite the hype it received, The Black Cauldron nearly became a Creator Killer for Walt Disney Animation Studios due to its poor critical reception and disastrous box office performance. By contrast, The Great Mouse Detective would become a modestly successful Sleeper Hit, achieving positive reviews from critics and making over $50 million worldwide on a $14 million budget, which would rescue Disney Animation and lay the groundwork for the Disney Renaissance a few years later.

YMMV.The Great Mouse Detective:

  • Obscure Popularity: The film was a success at the box office (having made over $50 million worldwide on a $14 million budget) and performed very well amongst critics and audiences, but despite that, good luck trying to find much of a following for the film. While it has a dedicated cult following, there isn't much of a notable mainstream following for it compared to Disney's other films, and it's often left out of discussions about the studio's output. This is likely because the film was released during a notorious low point in Disney's history, in which confidence in the studio's output was at an all-time low, on top of being greatly overshadowed at the time by Don Bluth's An American Tail and later, the films of the Disney Renaissance.

Edited by Tylerbear12 on Apr 29th 2023 at 2:21:32 PM

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#24140: Apr 29th 2023 at 4:07:25 AM

For Vladimir Putin

For Going Postal

  • FBI: Most Wanted: Rob Murphey is a security guard at a mall who finds himself fired and decides to execute a mass causality event as revenge. He has his minions set bombs at the entrances to the mall and has his shooters systematically gun down the mall visitors.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Clare Since: Aug, 2009
#24141: Apr 29th 2023 at 7:03:38 AM

@ Melinda

Riddick Others

  • Affably Evil: Vasilev runs a Hellhole Prison with many blatant human rights abuses, but he is friendly and trusting toward his Properly Paranoid subordinate Anatoli, leaves most of the hands-on cruelty to his subordinates, and invites the Bounty Hunters to drink with him while talking about how the longer they stay at the crematoria, the less likely they are to run into necromongers elsewhere.

  • Bald of Evil: Smirnov and the unnamed dark-skinned guard are both bald, (comma, superfluous word - cut) both watch Kyra get groped, (comma, repeated words - cut) and show plenty of anticipation at watching hellhounds attack the prisoners.

  • Villains Out Shopping: Grigorev (the man who gropes Kyra) and the burly Kyznetsov (who hits hellhounds with a hammer to herd them out of their pen in a mood to attack prisoners) are seen using bullets to play chess in one scene.

The Chronicles of Riddick (2004)

  • During the hellhound scene, Kara leaps past one of them to slide down a rope leading to a different floor and Riddick stares another down.

The Chronicles of Riddick (2004)

Surviving the Game

  • Pursued Protagonist: The opening scene is intercut with showing the protagonist's miserable life (and the loss of his dog) and another man being chased through the woods and murdered by the same hunters who will soon target the hero.

Surviving the Game

We Must Be Killers

We Must be Killers is a The Hunger Games fanfiction series by Lorata (whose fanfiction profile link is here (superfluous word - cut) and whose Archive of Our Own page for the series is here). The series contains dozens of vignettes and full-length stories, most of which are character-focused and centered on the District 2 victors, Career tributes, or their loved ones. The powerful Family of Choice dynamics between the victors is the main focus of the stories, with them being portrayed as damaged people looking for a purpose in all the wrong places and clinging hard to the belief they have found it, which sometimes has Blue-and-Orange Morality or Lack of Empathy results. Given that most of the characters are Doomed by Canon, the final story is an Alternate Universe Fix Fic offering a happier ending for the District 2 victors and Panem as a whole.

Tropes:

  • Anti-Hero: Almost every District 2 character has committed brutal murders in the arena in the service of an evil regime, can be very judgmental to people in other districts and even the ones who go against the Capitol have mixed motives, but they also truly care about each other and the people of their district, (comma) and do believe in the greater purpose of their actions. Even the nicer and better-adjusted victors often have Kick the Dog or Obliviously Evil moments, such as Brutus's mentor Odin refusing to let his mother see him and help repair his life after he becomes a victor.

  • Blood Knight: All of the District 2 victors enjoy fighting (if not outright killing) people. During the Christmas season, whenever any two of them get caught under mistletoe, rather than kiss, they are obligated to have a brawl, and most of them view this as a nice bit of fun.

  • Child Hater: Lyme loathes the idea of motherhood and being around kids. (remove parentheses) She has a Freudian Excuse, as her mother was groomed and impregnated at the age of fourteen and eventually abandoned Lyme after years of an abusive relationship that also saw Lyme get beat up and neglected. (remove closing parentheses) This causes Lyme to have No Sympathy for a tribute with a pregnant girlfriend, (comma) and disagree with the idea that Cecelia deserves special consideration in the Quell for being one of the few victors to have kids.

  • Continuity Snarl: The first time Brutus loses a tribute, it is mentioned that the remaining contenders are from District 5 and District 7, and that either Blight or Caleb (the drunken District 5 man from Catching Fire) will soon have his first victor, with Caleb's hammer-wielding tribute being the one Brutus favors. However, later stories never give any indication that either district has any post-2nd Quarter Quell victors besides Johanna, and a District 10 victor named Angus who won with hammers seems to be retroactively established as the victor of those Games.

  • A Day in the Limelight: Caius and Hera, two of the oldest district 2 victors, are barely mentioned at all until they become (superfluous word - cut) prominent characters in the second half of the Fix Fic. This is also A Death in the Limelight for them.

  • Deal with the Devil: After the uproar following the 3rd Quarter Quell interviews, Snow confronts and threatens the mentors, mockingly dares them to name alternatives (like cancelling the games altogether or doing a reaping with normal tributes) and hints that he can cancel the games if he chooses to, but they will have to offer him something that it will cost them very dearly to lose (whether personally or for their whole districts) and that will leave him feeling like he came out on top. The mentors back down and vote to let the Quell continue (although some of them are rebels already planning to sabotage it).

  • Let Them Die Happy: In The Price of Celebrity, Ronan tells Odin that there is an escape passage that Petra, (comma) the mentee of his mentee, (comma) can escape out of before the approaching rebels (parentheses) (who want to execute Petra) (closing parentheses) arrive. However, they need Odin to Hold the Line and buy time. Odin eagerly commits to this Heroic Sacrifice to save his surrogate granddaughter, but once he leaves the room, Ronan admits there is no tunnel and instead he and Petra need to commit suicide, but he wanted to let Odin die with a sense of hope rather than despair.

  • Mama Bear: While every female District 2 mentor is fiercely protective of anyone they mentor (and the men are little different), a few stand out in that regard.

    • Any Capitolite who gets plastic surgery to resemble a tribute Callista failed to save finds their life being sabotaged in all kinds of ugly ways that never quite trace back to Callista but are clearly her furious handiwork.

  • Morton's Fork: District 1 potential tributes who wash out of the Career Academy are enslaved and pimped out or made to work in the mines, but any who do well enough are sent into the Games and either die or live to become a Sex Slave. As a result, District 1 tributes who want to lose the Games but can’t find a plausible way to do so (which is almost all of them) tend to be depressed and caustic

  • Motive Rant: Claudius gets a preemptive motive rant in Fixed to a Star, almost a decade before he officially becomes a rebel. He tells Lyme that the Capitol does nothing but evilly exploit them, and that someday they will do something to destroy even Lyme's My Country, Right or Wrong sense of loyalty, and once they go that far, then he wants to be with Lyme when she retaliates.

  • Platonic Life-Partners: Brutus and Lyme love hanging out together and confiding in each other and their loyalty to each other surpasses the bonds of almost anyone else in their circle of friends. However, there is no chemistry between them, although in It’s Either that or Malaria, they pretend to be in a Secret Relationship as a prank.
^ Heterosexual Life-Partners is for close, but non-sexual, relationships between characters of the same gender. If the characters are of opposite genders, you want Platonic Life-Partners

  • Rape Leads to Insanity: Eibhlin, (comma) District 3's youngest victor, (comma, superfluous word - cut) was a "cocky genius" before being raped in a particularly traumatic fashion, apparently as the result of District 3 trying to make demands of the Capitol. Whatever happened to her was bad enough that she has been depressed and easily frightened since, doesn't like to be near men, has a similar erratic speech pattern and mental process to Wiress, and is implicitly viewed as a suicide risk if left alone.

  • Red Baron: Devon is called "The Kissing Killer" after seducing four of his companions as part of his strategy (he drew the line at doing this with his district partner) and killing two of them during makeout sessions.

  • The Scapegoat: In this story, Peeta killing Brutus is just the official cover story to keep the District 2 victors (save Ronan, who saw it happen) from knowing that Snow killed Brutus with nerve gas on a Stupid Evil whim to make it clear that he wouldn't let anyone dictate to him who the victor should be. Both the District 2 victors and Eibhlin from District 3 view this cover-up as ridiculous, with Eibhlin commenting that it seems "physically improbable" unless Peeta had plenty of time to prepare and some kind of lever.

  • Suicide by Cop: District 1 tributes (especially the girls) are well aware of the Sex Slave fate that awaits them if they win the Hunger Games, but before they are sent into the Games, they are given a last visit with any siblings they have and told those siblings will be murdered if they die and don’t try to win. However, a few of them (like Britta from Devon’s Games and Petra’s opponent Ambrosia subtly manage to let themselves be killed in non-obvious ways.

Edited by Clare on Apr 29th 2023 at 3:18:32 PM

Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#24142: Apr 29th 2023 at 7:16:23 AM

Thanks Clare.

@ Star Wars Legends

Edited by Melinda on Apr 29th 2023 at 10:38:09 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#24143: Apr 29th 2023 at 8:18:51 AM

[up] @kawaiineko333

I don't see any English mistakes in that example.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#24144: Apr 29th 2023 at 8:32:29 AM

[up] @brb1006

     Corrections 

One of the manga's storylines is an homage to Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet which has a very progressive story discussing prejudice and racism since it touches on interracial relationships. It also features positive and non-stereotypical depictions of Native Americans where they're treated like ordinary people and speak normally compared to other media of the time featuring indigenous people. The chapter features Unico befriending a young indigenous boy named "Tipi" after he discovers Unico injured from a buffalo stampede. The next day, both Unico and Tipi meet a pretty white girl named Mary who quickly falls in love with Tipi, with Tipi asking Unico to temporarily make them adults to learn about love. However, their parents aren't comfortable about their romantic relationship, with Tipi's father initially being very prejudiced towards white people before meeting her. While Mary was initially scared of visiting Tipi's village, the majority of the tribe aren't judgemental towards her and happily welcome her to their homes with open arms. Aware of the issues of racism and prejudice, Unico becomes concerned with the duo since they're blinded by love. Unico explains to both Tipi and Mary about the unfairness of people "Judging others by the color of their skin and race, <- comma which leads to intense hatred", and how "Prejudice and racism aren't just exclusive to white people" after learning they both told their parents.

^ "homage" is preceded by "an" because it's pronounced "oh maj", thus starting with a vowel sound.

^ You're only talking about one female character, so you can use "she" and "her" to refer to her.

Edited by Arivne on Apr 29th 2023 at 8:45:34 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#24145: Apr 29th 2023 at 8:37:41 AM

[up] @Tylerbear 12

The Black Cauldron (1985) was Disney's most expensive film at the time and was supported with...

^ "met" was not the correct word - you can't really "meet" something you created. The closest I could come to what you meant was "supported".

and it's often left out of discussions...on top of being greatly overshadowed...

Edited by Arivne on Apr 29th 2023 at 8:38:09 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#24146: Apr 29th 2023 at 8:41:39 AM

[up] @miraculous

Kimov has, <- comma in the episode, <- comma orchestrated...former lackeys who...in his favour.

^ You could also use "in his good graces".

...execute a mass casualty event as revenge.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#24147: Apr 29th 2023 at 8:45:03 AM

[up] @Melinda

I can't find any English errors in that example.

Edited by Arivne on Apr 29th 2023 at 8:46:35 AM

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#24148: Apr 29th 2023 at 10:01:29 AM

Thanks arivne and Will do.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#24149: Apr 29th 2023 at 10:37:56 AM

Thanks Arive

@ Godzilla

The score didn't depart the franchise after the first film either. The Heisi films in particular are fond of using the section between 1:10 and 1:55 as a tension builder during or before a big fight, to stirring effect, and it rarely feels old or out of place no matter how many times it is repeated in a single film.

@ Cocaine Bear

  • Beth the paramedic may not be immune to Freak Out moments, but she helps the injured Liz back to the ambulance and waits for Tom to ride with them rather than abandon either of them to the bear.

@ Star Wars – Rise of the Empire Era: Separatists

  • Badass Normal: Stratus is an ordinary human with nothing but a steel sword and blasters, but he either wins or survives several battles with lightsaber-carrying Jedi.
  • Frontline General: Stratus leads his men into battle regardless of how well-armed his enemies are and remains within walking distance of the battlefield to observe and coordinate things even after losing a leg.

@ Jedi Academy Trilogy

  • King of the Homeless: Dark Apprentice features Jacen and Jaina wondering into an area of hte city with booby traps and secuirity cameras, inhabited by people who went into hiding from the Empire and never learned of its collapse. Their leader, the best-fed and clothed of the group, says that being king of his little band suits him better than being a bank clerk (All There in the Manual sources say he went on the run to avoid execution after making a typo that put Palpatine's name on a public list of loan defaulters) and he'd rather stay there. That being said, he is nice to Jacen and Jaina and returns them ot their mother without any trouble.

@ Allegiance

  • Have You Told Anyone Else?: Ominous State Sec official Vak Somoril asks Ozzel who else knows about a secret that could sink their career in one scene as part of a plot to commit murder. Unusually, Somoril isn't planning to kill Ozzel except in a worst case scenario, but plans to kill anyone else who knows the secret and is below a certain rank. Ironically, Ozzel asks Somoril if he's told anyone else while listing eveyone in the loop, but asks that question innocently and lacks the backbone to ever dream of trying to get the better of Somoril.

Edited by Melinda on Apr 30th 2023 at 12:39:39 PM

Tylerbear12 Just a guy. from The Green Hills. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Just a guy.
#24150: Apr 29th 2023 at 1:35:19 PM

Edited by Tylerbear12 on Apr 29th 2023 at 3:47:02 AM


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