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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM
Page 907 @Blood Red Knight
I can't find anything wrong with the English in that example.
Edited by Arivne on Mar 2nd 2023 at 9:57:59 AM
Page 907 @jahman
Sensual Phrase: <missing text>
To Sakuya, long after his breaking up with his first one, Ayako.
...firing back at him when...
Would you consider Quenilla an Evil Counterpart to Asuna from Sword Art Online?
^ I have no knowledge of Quenilla, Asuna or Sword Art Online. Maybe you should ask on Is this an example
or a forum page about the show?
Edited by Arivne on Mar 2nd 2023 at 10:07:00 AM
- Non-Gameplay Elimination: Bruce splits his head during the first challenge. After a minor medical scare, he's deemed fit to continue and seems on the road to recovery. That night, his condition escalates to the point he's evacuated out of concern for his safety.
Edited by BloodRedKnight on Mar 2nd 2023 at 10:38:10 AM
- Dragalia Lost has Zethia, the Auspex of the Church of Ilia who has one floating behind her, even when corrupted by Morsayati, aka "the Other," turning her into Empress Zethia and giving her an Evil Costume Switch.
Thanks, Arivne.
- Only the Creator Does It Right: There is a general agreement amongst the fandom that only Jim Henson truly understood the Muppets and what made them appealing, and that, as much as they tried, neither Disney or even the Jim Henson Company have been able to truly capture their spirit after his death (bar some exceptions). This was evident even before Jim Henson passed, as The Muppets Take Manhattan, which was directed by Frank Oz instead of Jim Henson, is regarded to be a downgrade and a Contested Sequel compared to the universally beloved Henson-directed predecessors.
YMMV.Vocaloid
- No Yay: Miku/Luka is rejected by many fans (particularly by Western fans) due to Miku and Luka officially being 16 and 20, respectively, making Miku a teenager and Luka a legal adult. While their ages are not fixed and can be changed to suit the narrative (as Sega has done in cases like the School Sekai (which makes them both teenage high schoolers) in Project Sekai), the fact that their ages are "official" makes many fans too uncomfortable to entertain the idea.
Edited by Tylerbear12 on Mar 3rd 2023 at 12:07:55 PM
My Complete Monster writeups
- Tarzan 1996
- Issues #1-6 “Tarzan’s Jungle Fury”: Princess Regina is heir of to the throne of Arthan, one of two lost civilizations brought back to life by extraterrestrial Tara. Fully on board with genodice of both Kavell, other civilization brought back by Tara, and humanity itself. Regina ventures into the world to seduce Tarzan, intending to Mate with him. Choosing Paul D’arthon instead, Regina has him infected by Tara and manipulates him into hating Tarzan. Leading her forces in complete extermination of Kavell, Regina seemingly reforms and created cure for Tara after Paul almost dies. Revealing her dulicity Regina tries to seduce Kavell king Johran, tossing Paul aside, revealing she killed her father and that cure her people took is fake. Overlooking her Troops slaugthering Kavall, Regina tries to poison Johran before spreading Tara across the planet.
- Issues #7-10 “Legion of Hatred”: Otto Mann started as just a disrespected nazi private. Stumbling upon the lost city of Kali, Otto find mind bending Zuli emerald. In order to buy time to master the emerald, Otto manipulates Kali women into helping him enslave Bandago people, using emerald to take control of them, Kali and his fellow nazi. Otto uses emerald to rape queen Zunnesa, cause Allied planes to crash into one another and force his men to comit suicide, almost doing the same to Tarzan’s friend Mugambi. Threathing to use emerald to kill entire Kali tribe, Otto Forces Tarzan into slavery, planing to use emerald to conquer the world and rape different woman every day.
- Issues #17-20 “Tarzan vs the Moon Men”: Jamagar Cha-Ron is the leader of carnivous Va Gas. Allaying himself with with Jamagar Or-tis of Kalkan, Cha-Ron has his troops help Kalkans enslave African people in order to build a landing are for his fleet. Coming to Earth, Cha-Ron bring weapons with which the would be able to conquer Earth and plans to betray Kalkans and eat their hearths. Watching as Tarzan is forced to fight animal mutated into a montruos slave. Leaving Or-tis to be killed and eaten by his guard, Cha-Ron brings his army to Earth, intent on enslaving humanity.
By to the very end, I don't mean that Beth continues to blame herself, but that even the last thing Evelyn does, even when it's clear that she is gonna die, is to be harsh with her daughter. The last thing Evelyn does is tell her something that can be summed up as it's your fault I'm going to die.
Edited by NURJIN915 on Mar 3rd 2023 at 11:40:19 AM
- Wedding Episode: One famous example is "Wedding Bells For Gargamel". In it, the titular wizard is set to marry the daughter of a Baron, whom she doesn’t want to marry. However, thanks to the Smurfs, she gets saved from being married to him.
- Asshole Victim: In "Jeffy’s 18th Birthday", Nancy, Jeffy’s abusive mother, is shot and killed by him. Unsurprisingly, nobody sheds a tear over her death.
- Ms. Fanservice: Claudette Dupri has become massively popular with the fans.
Thanks
@ Jeremiah
- Non-Protagonist Resolver: Jeremiah (whose name is the title), Kurdy, and eventually Mr. Smith are the wandering heroes the show focuses on and Markus is the Big Good, but none of them are primarily responsible for defeating either major villainous force.
- At the beginning of season 2, Lee Chen and Meghan take out the Valhalla Sector by infecting them with the Big Death and rescue a kidnapped Markus and Jeremiah in the process.
- While Jeremiah gets a climactic battle with Mr. Sims in the series finale, the rest of the Army of Daniel would have still attacked and killed many heroes if not for a Mook Lieutenant overhearing Sims acknowledge that their revered leader is an invented figurehead, causing that man to spread the word and the soldiers to turn on their leaders.
- In "Letters from the Other Side Part 1": Markus grimly recounts the massive arsenal that the Valhalla Sector used to capture him and the others at St. Louis, then sarcastically quips that one Mook even used foul language.
- The flashback scenes of Devon and Mary leaving with a rifle to break into Devon's lab take on a whole new Hero of Another Story meaning as it is revealed that Devon was trying to expose the government creating the Big Death and distribute the research about the virus while there might still be time to save some of the adult population.
- In "Letters from the Other Side Part 1":
- Jeremiah is told the President wants to see him and asks what the man is president of. Upon being told “The United States, asshole", he snarks that "The United States Asshole" is an interesting and fitting title and the initials are still U.S.A. As soon as the President Evil shows up, the appropriateness of the comment is confirmed. It doubles as a funny moment.
- Markus is being roughly interrogated and is offered a deal if he names his remaining allies. He responds with a defiant quote from Nineteen Eighty-Four.
- In ''Letters from the Other Side Part 2":
- Lee Chen reveals that, unbeknownst to most of Thunder Mountain, they still have a working fleet of over a dozen military choppers that Markus has been quietly maintaining (training pilots with flight simulators, etc.) for just such an emergency.
- Lee gets a chilling Pay Evil unto Evil The Chessmaster gambit: he tricks the Valhalla Sector into thinking that Typhoid Mary Meghan survived the Big Death because of a vaccine that immunized her to it and that the Thunder Mountain leaders will trade her for Markus and the others. Then, right as the trade is happening, he has Kurdy lead an attack on the Valhalla Sector (after traveling there with Thunder Mountain's helicopters) so that its people will lock themselves inside (with Meghan) to ride out the attack.
- Meghan is fully onbaord with Lee's plan and strolls through the Valhalla Sector, cheerfully shaking hands with everyone important she can find before they realize she is infecting them, paying them back for taking Markus prisoner and causing the Big Death in the first place.
- When the Valhalla Sector won't release Jeremiah and his father before the lockdown, with some quick prompting from Lee, Libby smuggles Jeremiah and his father food, blows up their cell guard with a homeade chemical bomb, and then locks herself in a lab, allowing all three of them to survive the bunker outbreak.
- In ''Letters from the Other Side Part 1", most of the scenes between Jeremiah and his father, particularly when he cries while talking about their separation and his guilt for failing to save his brother, Michael.
@ Jeremiah
- Fanon Discontinuity: While the subsequent episodes are far from disliked, some fans think the show should have ended with the final battle against the Valhalla Sector and that "Letters from the Other Side Part 2" was a Tough Act to Follow and would have been a good series finale.
Edited by Melinda on Mar 3rd 2023 at 10:50:57 AM
Posting this again. For the The Last of Us 2023 series funny moments page.
- There were so many times Joel and Sarah dodged the cordyceps infection, that it's honestly humorous.note
Thank you, Arivne. I've fixed some words now.
"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."For Harmless Villain Anime And Manga:
- The Kindaichi Case Files: One of Hajime's elusive and villainous rivals, Gentleman Thief, despite her masculine nickname (it's intentionally meant to trick everyone) and her unknown real name, is an alluring and mischievous thief who likes to give calling cards at the locations of the targeted items (usually paintings and statues) and steal them. She doesn't do anything lethal and is capable of disguising herself as a bystander (male or female) to do her work. Double Subverted in her debut chapter "Gentleman Thief The Killer", where her being accused of serial murders turns out to be a Red Herring and the true culprit being Sakura Izumi (Hajime's former classmate), who is actually the one who does the murders and uses Gentleman Thief as a scapegoat.
Edited by Minorica on Apr 5th 2023 at 12:34:31 AM
"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."Age of Empires 1
- Adaptational Name Change: Both units from the "photon man" and "e=mc2 trooper" cheat codes are called "Nuke Trooper" in the original game. In the Definitive Edition, the "photon man" cheat unit is renamed "Laser Trooper" to differentiate it from the other Nuke Trooper.
- Art-Style Clash: The Definitive Edition, which came out two decades after the original game, gives the game a graphical overhaul, which notably changes the Digitized Sprites to actual 3D models. However, cheat units still use their old graphics from the original game, giving them an "out of place" look.
- Vanilla Unit: Aside from the slingers, units from the barrack are the most basic units in the game. They have no ability and all have medium stats by the time each of them are unlocked. Their biggest strenght are their low resource cost making them convenient to make army of. They also benefit from the "logistics" upgrade, which reduces their population cost.
Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid: YMMV
- Genius Bonus: Lucoa reflexively wiggling her body whenever Shouta plays the flute seems a bit weird, but once you remember that the Quetzalcoatl is a gigantic snake, you realise that Shouta is accidentally doing a snake charmer act.
Uncle Albert's Adventures
- Cutting the Knot: Some puzzles have alternative solutions that that are simpler than the intended one, but they are not hinted, so the player may not learn about them except by accidental luck.
- In the "Caracas" page of Fabulous Voyage, you must enter a four digits password, you can either play a maze mini-game four times to get each number one by one, or you can click on Alberto while he's on the page to make him say an impossible hour that correspond to the password.
- In Fabulous Voyage, there is two ways to break the bottle containing the papyrus, one is evident but long and complicated to pull, while to other is easy but not obvious. The long way is to use an animal to push a stone (which can't be interacted with the cursor) on a tilted plank, then make a frog jump on the other side of the plank to make the stone roll to the bottle and damage it. This way is annoying to pull out because the animals are difficult to control and you need to do it twice. The alternate solution is to take another, actually interactible, stone from your inventory and drag it to the bottle to instantly break it.
- Cyber Green: Starting from Le Temple Perdu, the suitcase-radio displays videos in green.
- Deliberately Monochrome: Starting from Le Temple Perdu, the cutscenes about Uncle Albert are in black and white to simulate old movies.
- Deserted Island: During one of his world travels, Uncle Albert got stranded on a deserted island. While he found proofs that it used to be inhabited, there was no human anymore when he got here.
- Digitized Sprites: The sprites for every animal and a few objects are made out of 3D models.
- Discard and Draw: The insecto-robot can only use one ability at a time since they are tied to the robot's forms.
- Distressed Dude: In Secret Album, the player must save Tom, who was accidentally trapped inside the album with the treasure.
- Ditzy Genius: Uncle Albert is a skilled scientist and enginner, but according to the narrator, people would either call Albert a genius or a crazy man for doing "useless things" such as raising bugs, counting stars or building useless machines.
@ Tatermater12
- Wedding Episode: In "Wedding Bells For Gargamel" (remove period, superfluous word - cut, move text), the titular wizard is set to marry a baron's daughter (superfluous words - cut), who doesn't want to marry Gargamel. However, thanks to the Smurfs, she gets saved from being married to him.
- Asshole Victim: In "Jeffy's 18th Birthday", Nancy, Jeffy's abusive mother, is shot and killed by him. Unsurprisingly, nobody sheds a tear over her death.
- Ms. Fanservice: Claudette Dupri has become massively popular with the fans.
Edited by Clare on Mar 3rd 2023 at 12:27:42 PM
That night, his condition worsens to the point he's evacuated out of concern for his safety.
No Yay: Miku/Luka gets this reaction from the Western fanbase <- no comma due to Miku and Luka officially being 16 and 20, respectively. While their ages are not fixed and can be changed to suit the narrative (as Sega has done in cases like the School Sekai (which makes them both teenagers) in Project Sekai), the fact that their ages are official makes it harder to defend the ship and all the easier for fans to reject the ship.
^ This has two problems:
- "gets this reaction" violates Word Cruft - This Example Is an Example. It's also a bad idea because there's a good chance that when someone does this, they're going to end up writing a Partial-Context Example or Zero-Context Example.
- The example does end up violating Partial-Context Example, because the example never actually says that the fandom rejects the pairing as required by No Yay. It sort of hints at it at the very end of the example, but that isn't enough.
Here's how to fix this:
"Miku/Luka is rejected by the Western fanbase...
Edited by Arivne on Mar 3rd 2023 at 7:18:02 AM
...heir of to...by the extraterrestrial Tara. She is fully on...with the genocide of both the Kavell, the other...to mate with...forces to completely exterminate Kavell...and creates a cure...her duplicity, <- comma Regina...that the cure...her troops slaughtering the Kavall...
^ Nowhere in this example do you say what Tara is, and you really should. Because of the way you worded it, I first thought that Tara was the name of a race of beings, not just one. I had to look up the word on Google to figure out it was a singular being.
...disrespected Nazi private....Otto finds the mind-bending Zuli...enslave Bandago people, using the emerald...fellow Nazis. Otto uses the emerald...to commit suicide...Mugambi. Threatening to use the emerald to kill the entire...Otto forces Tarzan into slavery, planning to use the emerald...different women every day.
^ Does he enslave all of the Bandago people or just some of them?
Jamagar Cha-Ron is the leader of the carnivorous Va Gas. Allying himself with with Jamagar...help the Kalkans...landing area for...Cha-Ron brings weapons with which the would be able to...betray the Kalkans...their hearts. He watches as...fight an animal...a monstrous slave.
Edited by Arivne on Mar 3rd 2023 at 7:41:27 AM
@ Jeremiah
- "The Face in the Mirror" reveals that Dr. Frederick Monash spent fifteen years planning the creation of a government to challenge the Valhalla Sector, both inside Raven Rock and after escaping from the bunker, and then built it into a major army capable of challenging The Remnant of the U.S. government. Sadly, his efforts turn out to be All for Nothing when his organization is corrupted and Thunder Mountain defeats the Valhalla Sector without his help. After this, he sets out to defect and help stop the group that he built. Nonetheless, he only appears in one episode.
Edited by Melinda on Mar 3rd 2023 at 10:40:02 AM
@Melinda
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While the subsequent episodes...Sector <- no comma and...
- Frame-Up: In "Jeffy Gets Framed", Junior and his two best friends say Jeffy broke the vase, when it was really them.
- Ms. Fanservice: Angela and Becca Sparkles are both popular with the fans due to their attractive features.
- Bitch in Sheep's Clothing: Professor Marmalade seems like a friendly guy, but in reality, he's a manipulative, vile, arrogant sociopath.

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