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I see another trope interesting me was created after my editing privileges were suspended: Old-Timey Cinema Countdown, and there are a few things I want to add to Western Animation:

• The Fairly OddParents!:
  • In Abra-Catastrophe!, Barry Cowlick Jr. puts Timmy in a cinema chair and turns on a projector to show what people wish for during his musical number. Before the projection starts, there is a black-and-white countdown from 3 to 1.
  • A similar countdown leader also kicks off Timmy's low-budget attempt at an action movie in "Movie Magic".
  • In "This Is Your Wish!", Wanda presents a home movie to convince the titular talk show's audience that Cosmo can be a hero, and it begins with a similar black-and-white countdown leader. Timmy's montage video of Cosmo being a great fairy godparent also opens this way.

• The Ren & Stimpy Show: In "Stimpy's Cartoon Show," Stimpy's animated short he presents to Wilbur Cobb opens with such a countdown, using footage of an actual universal countdown leader with a purple tint and a "pop" sound effect accompanying 2 (instead of the standard beep). In the original airing of this episode, the full countdown from 8 to 2 is shown. But in the Re-Cut version seen in subsequent reruns and video/streaming releases, the countdown is shortened from 5 to 2.

• Rocko's Modern Life: In many cases when a film reel is being shown (and it's fairly often), the film usually opens with such a countdown leader. In most cases, the countdown is animated in the same style as the rest of the show, but the Wacky Delly pilot opens with Stock Footage of a real universal countdown leader.

For this one, the first two examples were already there, but give an idea on how I want to add on to this list...

• The Simpsons:
  • In "Beyond Blunderdome" as the Simpson family about to watch the new improved version of Mel Gibson's remake of Mr. Smith Goes to Washington Homer announces "here comes two!" as the 2 is about to show up.
  • In "Natural Born Kissers" when watching an alternate version of Casablanca at the old folks' home, Grandpa announces "Here comes two!" as the 2 is about to show up.
  • In "Bart the Murderer", when the kids of Springfield Elementary School take a field trip to the Ah Fudge! chocolate factory, they view an educational film about the history of chocolate, hosted by Troy McClure. When the countdown leader begins with "PICTURE START" and 4 (in a long shot of the auditorium), it's animated in the show's usual style, but for 3 and 2 (in a close up shot of the screen), footage of a real universal countdown leader is used.
  • In "Duffless", Chief Wiggum shows traffic school students arrested for driving under the influence a Scare 'Em Straight film about the dangers of drunk driving. After accidentally putting on a home movie of Wiggum and his wife in their backyard, the correct film reel opens with such a countdown of 3 and 2.

Edited by WileK209 on Feb 4th 2023 at 11:30:57 AM

@ Arachnophobia

• Scenery Porn: The first fifteen minutes have some beautiful shots of both South America (blowing mist, a waterfall, mountain sinkholes etc.) and the California countryside.
• Women Are Wiser: Mrs. Metcalf is a lot nicer and smarter than her husband, correcting his Self-Serving Memory and saying that Ross may have a point about wanting to autopsy the recent apparent heart attack victims.

@Arachnophobia

• Fan-Preferred Cut Content: A number of fans wish the unmade scene where Sheriff Parsons dies had stayed in, as the description of it sounds pretty suspenseful and a lot of them also feel that he was too obnoxious to deserve being Spared by the Cut.

• Reign of Fire: After twenty years of hiding from dragons, there are lots of kids at the castle refuge who have such limited knowledge of the outside world that their leaders can claim to have invented everything in a skit heavily borrowing from The Empire Strikes Back.
• The Host: One of the children in the colony of people hiding from Puppeteer Parasites was born inside their cavern refuge, and is described as a skittish boy who avoids the narrator.
• The Night of the Triffids: The story follows one of the first generations of young adults born after almsot everyone was blinded by a comet and most of the survivors died from starvation, disease, or Triffid attacks. The British characters have grown up in a Utopia of sorts, while the Amefican ones are mistreated subjects of a despotism.
• The Scarlet Plague by Jack London is set sixty years after The Plague devastates the world. Only a few hundred humans remain alive, including James Smith, who regales his hunter-gatherer grandchildren with stories about the old world's technology, food, and society. Their primary reaction is skepticism.
• Sky Jumpers: About fifty years after a war that resulted in a Depopulation Bomb, there are plenty of kids who have grown up in a farming community where science fair grade inventions are seen as wonderful and complex things that provide a boon to the community.

@ Sunnydale High

• Jerk with a Heart of Jerk: The Sunnydale High Yearbook reveals a lot of Hidden Depths and Character Development about them, but ultimately implies that, with the possible exception of Heidi (although she is still apparently friends with the other three), they still have at least some of the same bullying and troublemaking attitudes as before. Their classmates vote Kyle the boy "Most Likely to be Imprisoned", and Rhonda and Tor the winners of the "Teacher's Worst Nightmare" title.
• These Hands Have Killed:
  • The Sunnydale High Yearbook implies that Heidi feels deep remorse for eating Principal Flutie and Herbert the pig during her were-hyena transformations. She has converted to veganism, she told the yearbook staff there's a lot of things she'd like to forget about high school, and she acted in a Drama Club production where her "pain seem[ed] all too real" according to a review.
  • Kyle's yearbook entry notes that he has a hard time looking at pork the same way as before and that he'd rather not know the complete details of what happened during his blackouts.

• Proud Beauty: On of her favorite yearbook memories is about how good she looks in a swimsuit.
• One-Steve Limit: She shares her given name with a member of The Pack from the eponymous episode.

Edited by Melinda on Feb 5th 2023 at 7:24:51 AM

Trivia.Luca:

• Approval of God: Director Enrico Casarosa frequently retweets and likes fanart of the film on his Twitter account, including shipping art of Luca/Alberto.

YMMV.Luca:

• LGBT Fanbase: While not as large as the gay following for Luca and Alberto, Giulia has also developed a following among lesbians due to her tomboyish personality and lack of romantic interest in any of the boys, with many interpreting her as a lesbian (often in conjunction with the interpretation of Luca and Alberto being gay). This following would only increase after it was revealed by Pixar in an article that they had discussed making her a lesbian early on, only for the idea to be scrapped due to the filmmakers struggling to communicate that without giving her a girlfriend and not wanting romance to be a focal point of the film.

Edited by Tylerbear12 on Feb 5th 2023 at 10:43:38 AM

Centurii Chan

• The Masochism Tango: In this comic, Praetorian and Legate are asked "What's the best thing about your relationship?"
  Praetorian: That we aren't equals. Equals means she has a say, and I can't have her saying anything besides "I love you."
  Legate: She fucks like a total psychopath. It's genuinely the hottest thing I've ever seen.

For Enemy Mime

• In an episode of Historietas Assombradas Para Criancas Mal Criadas, Pepe discovers that he had been followed by an ominous mime imitating all of his actions through most of his life, and he had never noticed because he never happened to look behind him until then. Pepe gets creeped out and by the end manages to be free when his friends have the idea of making Pepe imitate the mime as he imitates him, creating a paradox that breaks the mime's curse as it is revealed that he was Pepe's kindergarten schoolmate, who was sad for not having as much friends as Pepe and wished in a cursed wishing well to be like him.

Edited by good-morning on Feb 4th 2023 at 10:12:55 AM

Here's some more grammar practice. This time I'm going to practice writing in the present tense. Here goes:

Simple Present Tense:

Michael practices his dance moves every day. I agree with your argument, Mandy.

Present Continuous Tense:

I'm starting to get sick of eating pasta every day. She is writing an essay for her college application.

Present Perfect Tense:

It has been seven years since my family and I moved here. I have been waiting for you for over an hour.

For future I Thought That Was entries:

• Adventure Time isn't about a sentient clock going on an adventure, nor is it a set time when you go on an adventure.
• T.U.F.F. Puppy isn't about a nigh invulnerable puppy.

Edited by gamerzillasaurusrex2000 on Feb 4th 2023 at 8:55:07 AM

Lanfeust: Character (Lanfeust)

• Absurdly Youthful Father: Because of some time travelling misadventures, he ends up having a son who's barely younger than him.
• Younger Than They Look: He's in his mid-teens at the beginning of the story, but he looks like he's in his twenties.

Mario Kart 64: YMMV

• Common Knowledge: Most people believe that the thwomp nicknamed "Marty" is an unique green thwomp. In reality, this thwomp is blue like any other thwomps from the Mario games on the Nintendo 64. It just looks green because of the lighting in the cell.

Paper Mario 64: Characters (Koopa Bros)

• Palette Swap: Aside from the color of their mask, shell and shoes, they all look the same.

Madness Combat: Trivia

• Dummied Out: There's one detail in "Aggregation" that exist but that cannot be seen while watching the animation. While looking at the Flash files of the episode, we can see that the Mag Agent: V3's head and mask are actually two separate assets that are "glued" together during the animation. Looking at the head's asset reveals that V3 actually do have a facial cross like everyone else, but the mask hides it and the upper part of the cross is unusually short.
• Referenced by...: Hank makes a cameo in Animator vs. Animation V when The Chosen One and The Dark Lord are causing a rampage on the internet.

For Killing in Self-Defense Anime & Manga:

• Takato Case File^note The Villain Episode prequel Spin-Off of The Kindaichi Case Files.: This is implied to be the titular Arch-Enemy protagonist's first murder. Takato already showed his Lack of Empathy (having a drunkard father and a mother who have long separated certainly doesn't help) as he answers the sociopathic culprit's question about his feelings after committing his first murder: he felt nothing, as usual. He was depicted as an heroic, intelligent Magician Detective junior high school student who managed to solve a murder case before Jumping Off the Slippery Slope.

For Siblings in Crime Anime & Manga:

• The Kindaichi Case Files: In "Rosicrucian Mansion Murder Case", it's revealed that the murderer (a.k.a. Rozenkreutz) is Giselle Tsukuyomi. She is Yoichi Takato's (a.k.a. The Puppet Master of Hell's) half-sibling, whose mother meets the same tragic fate as Takato's mother. Giselle is the only culprit who isn't executed by Takato because of having the same fate as the latter. However, because they meet for the first time, their relationship isn't quite good. Furthermore, Takato is a sociopathic criminal magician, while Giselle is a Tsundere.

Edited by Minorica on Feb 14th 2023 at 8:33:12 PM

@ Melinda

Arachnophobia

• Fan-Preferred Cut Content: A number of fans wish the unmade scene where Sheriff Parsons dies (superfluous words - cut, move text) had stayed in, as the description of it sounds pretty suspenseful and a lot of them also feel that he was too obnoxious to deserve being Spared by the Cut.

Born After the End

• The Host: One of the children in the colony of people hiding from Puppeteer Parasites was born inside their cavern refuge, and is described as a skittish boy who avoids the main cast.

• The Night of the Triffids: The story follows one of the first generations of young adults born after almost everyone was blinded by a comet and most of the survivors died from starvation, disease, or Triffid attacks. The British characters have grown up in a Utopia of sorts, while the American ones are mistreated subjects of a despotic government.

• Sky Jumpers: Almost fifty years after a war that resulted in a Depopulation Bomb, there are plenty of kids who have grown up in a farming community where science fair grade inventions are seen as wonderful and complex things that provide a boon to the community.

Sunnydale High

• Jerk with a Heart of Jerk: The Sunnydale High Yearbook reveals a lot of Hidden Depths and Character Development about them, (comma) but ultimately implies that except for Heidi, they still have at least some of the same bullying and troublemaking attitudes as before. Their classmates vote Kyle the boy "Most Likely to be Imprisoned", (comma) and Rhonda and Tor the winners of the "Teacher's Worst Nightmare" title.

• These Hands Have Killed:
  • The Sunnydale High Yearbook implies that Heidi feels deep remorse for eating Principal Flutie and Herbert the pig during her were-hyena transformations. She has converted to veganism, (superfluous word - cut) told the yearbook staff there's a lot of things she'd like to forget about high school, and she acted in a Drama Club production where her "pain seem[ed] all too real" according to a review.

Elliot and Lisa

• Academic Athlete: The Sunnydale High Yearbook reveals that Lisa learned French in school well enough to win a prize at an national linguistics competition and is a track star who believes that a fit body makes a fit mind.

• Affectionate Nickname: The Sunnydale High Yearbook reveals that Lisa is in a relationship with someone who calls her Boo-Boo (or Lissaboo at times) and uses the pet nickname Yogi.

• Ambiguously Gay: In the Sunnydale High Yearbook, there is a note in the yearbook from someone named E.T. that seems to be a Public Secret Message to Larry about coming out of the closet, possibly meaning that Elliot is gay and in a relationship with Larry but hasn't told anyone else yet.

• Nice Girl: Lisa is sympathetic about a classmate's murder and willing to answer questions for the Scooby Gang. This is apparently amped up even more in her offscreen interactions with other people, as she is voted "Nicest" in the yearbook.

Thanks

@ Sunnydale High If the nicknames shouldn't be in quotes jsut say so as a blanket declaration for all of them and I can fix that without you needing to type more.

• In-Series Nickname: According to the yearbook, some people call her "Guinevere", "Gee", or "Digger".
• In-Series Nickname: According to the yearbook, some of her classmates call her "Flygirl" in reference to her cheerleading.
• Affectionate Nickname: The yearbook gives their nicknames as "Hi-Ho" and "Didi" (for Heidi), "24" (Kyle, reference to how "du" is similar to how two is pronounced in some languages and the rest of his surname is "fours"), "Ronnie" (Rhonda), and "Tor-nado and Toro" (for Tor). Kyle is also nicknamed Doofus, but that is more of an Embarrassing Nickname.
• In-Series Nickname: The yearbook lists "Egghead" as one of her nicknames, although, depending on the context, it could be an Affectionate Nickname, since her surname begins with "Eg", she is involved in intellectual clubs, and a boy who likes her calls her by that name.
• In-Series Nickname: The yearbook says some people call Elliot "Ness".
• In-Series Nickname: The yearbook says some people call him "Crisco".
• In-Series Nickname: The yearbook says some people call him "Skittle".
• In-Series Nickname: According to the yearbook, Michael is sometimes called "Emcee" or "Warlock".
• Affectionate Nickname: According to the yearbook, Holly is sometimes called "Charlie" or "Hollywood" and many kids refer to Michelle as "Misha" or "Chelle".
• Competition Freak: His yearbook quote is "Winning isn't everything ... okay, so I'm lying."
• In-Series Nickname: The yearbook says some people call him "Hoagie".
• In-Series Nickname:According to the yearbook, some people call her "Torch" or "Lissa".
• Plastic Bitch: She's fairly self-centered, and Cordelia says she got a nose job and asked to have it resemble the nose of Gwyneth Paltrow.

Edited by Melinda on Feb 5th 2023 at 10:18:45 AM

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He would have failed if it hadn't for the quick thinking of his teammate allowing him to escape...

For Scream: Ghostface (Amber folder):

• Ambiguously Bi: Amber is hinted to be in a relationship with Richie, with the two calling each other hun and baby multiple times, in a Unholy Matrimony like situation. However, she is very touchy feely and closebwith Tara beyond even being a "best friend", actually naming If I Can't Have You… as a potential reason to have attacked her. In an earlier draft Tara and Amber were even ex-girlfriends, before this was removed leaving her romantic preferences for either a massive question mark.

Any corrections?

Edited by Bullman on Feb 5th 2023 at 11:01:33 AM

Actually Arivne, his teammate is the only one that escapes and they need only one to escape to pass the exam. So maybe to be more precise, I just correct it by adding alone without him after to escape?

Edited by sdewap on Feb 5th 2023 at 11:49:48 PM

@ Buffy the Vampire Slayer

• From "The Pack":
  • Herbert, the football helmet-wearing pig mascot, is adored in and out of universe.
  • While Gang of Bullies member Heidi Barrie only attracts Love to Hate sentiments at best in the episode itself, she has a decent number of fans among the people who read the All There in the Manual yearbook, due to having an interesting array of hobbies and seeming to have These Hands Have Killed remorse for her actions.
• Charming Teen Genius and Reluctant Mad Scientist and protective brother Chris Epps from “some Assembly Required” is quite popular for being one of the first Anti Villains of the show.

@ Buffy the Vampire Slayer They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character

• Many of the surviving Sunnydale one-shot characters such as Chris Epps (a Reluctant Mad Scientist and friend of Willow), The Pack (whose reactions to coming to grips with their actions as cannibalistic were beasts are only covered in All There in the Manual sources), Homecoming Queen candidates Holly and Michelle, Michael (the only boy in the magic group Willow is part of), and Xander’s car-obsessed Romantic False Lead Lysette. It would have been interesting seeing such characters recur, have different views of the main cast, and maybe get scenes and lines during “Graduation”, but none of them appear in any episodes besides their debuts.

Edited by Melinda on Feb 5th 2023 at 10:20:40 AM

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@Wile K 209

During his musical number, Barry Cowlick Jr....to show what people wish for.

^ Because of the incorrect sentence order, you said the projector was showing what people wish for during his musical number, not in general.

...movie (to convince...a hero) which begins with a similar ...leader. Timmy's...godparent also opens with a black-and-white countdown leader.

I re-wrote these examples as per How to Write an Example - Don't Refer to Other Items on the Page and Word Cruft - Positional comparatives.

You put two examples in the same slot, which goes against Example Indentation in Trope Lists. It should be:

• "This Is Your Wish!"
  • Wanda presents a home movie (to convince the titular talk show's audience that Cosmo can be a hero) which begins with a black-and-white countdown leader.
  • Timmy's montage video of Cosmo being a great fairy godparent opens with a black-and-white countdown leader.

In "Stimpy's Cartoon Show," the animated short Stimpy presents...accompanying the number 2...shown, <- comma but in...

^ You improperly split up the last sentence into two sentences.

...educational film about the history of chocolate <- no comma hosted by Troy McClure.

Edited by Arivne on Feb 5th 2023 at 9:32:38 AM

@Tylerbear 12

I don't see any English errors in those examples.

@kawaiineko333

I can't find any English mistakes in that example.

@good-morning

Pepe gets creeped out, <- comma and by the end manages to break free when his friends get the idea of having Pepe imitate the mime as the mime imitates him, creating a paradox that breaks the mime's curse. <- period as It is revealed that the mime was Pepe's kindergarten schoolmate, who was sad over not having as many friends as Pepe and wished (using a cursed wishing well) to be like him.

@PS 16

All of that looks good. :)

@gamerzillasaurusrex2000

I can't see any English mistakes in those sentences.

@jOSEFdelaville

...nicknamed "Marty" is a unique green thwomp.

^ Normally, a word that starts with a vowel would be preceded by an "an" (e.g. "an unlikely", "an imperial", etc.). In this case, "unique" pronounced as if it were spelled "yunique". Since the "y" sound is being used as a consonant, it's preceded by an "a".

There's one detail in "Aggregation" that exists but...

Edited by Arivne on Feb 5th 2023 at 10:13:19 AM

@Minorica

...(having a drunkard father and a mother who have long separated certainly doesn't help)...

In "Rosicrucian Mansion Murder Case"...murderer of this case is...of Hell's) half-sibling...

@ Sunnydale