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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM
Pages 904, 905 @Orror SANESS
"Now, all I want to ask you is... did I indent it correctly?"
- What the Romans Have Done for Us: An example
- Ghostapo example
- Soviet Superscience example
- Another example
Example Indentation in Trope Lists says:
"On a works page, for example, we have a list of trope names. These get one bullet (*). If there is more than one example of the trope in the work, each of them gets two bullets (**) on their own line. If there is only one example, it goes on the line with the trope title."
Putting the main What the Romans Have Done for Us example at the first level of indentation and then more examples below it violates this rule. The first example should be on the second level of indentation (two asterisks) along with the others.
Example Indentation in Trope Lists also says:
"All tropes in a list should be at the same level of indentation, and in alphabetical order. ...Subtropes should not be listed in sub-bullets beneath their parent tropes."
Putting the Ghostapo and Soviet Superscience examples under What the Romans Have Done for Us also violates this rule. Each of them should be by itself at the first level of indentation (one asterisk). Even if they were Sub Tropes of What the Romans Have Done for Us (and they're not), they still wouldn't be indented below it.
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@gamerzillasaurusrex2000
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=b9tcd2k65789p1pglrd92nvr&page=905#comment-22617
You already asked me to correct that example here
and I corrected it here
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...they exclusively live in Pandora's oceans.
Page 905 @Fate Stay Who
"Peasants are trained from the hard-working and stout-hearted citizens that live in the numerous kingdoms of Lordaeron. By mining Gold and harvesting Lumber to meet the ever-increasing needs of the fighting force which must push back the unrelenting Horde, they are the backbone of the Alliance. Trained not only in the construction and maintenance of the myriad buildings found in every community but also those necessary to wage war, they take great pride in the invaluable service they provide. Roused by the tales of the Orcish atrocities in Azeroth, these Peasants have learned to use both pick and axe for their own defenses if threatened."
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Edited by Arivne on Feb 2nd 2023 at 10:01:08 AM
Page 905 @Melinda
...work at a putt-putt golf course...
Xander writes “Who is this handsome lad?” next to his own picture.
...various extracurricular activities of many one-dimensional popular...stars, and Bit...
...indicate remorse for their actions in their yearbook memories, <- comma and...
The yearbook staff, which is mostly made up of popular kids, <- comma praise...
...moving love notes between two kids in the school band and Pack members Kyle and Rhonda.
...but square bracket -> [[All There in the Manual the Sunnydale High Yearbook]] mentions...
In the show itself, Harmony...for an impression of Marcia Brady.
The season 1 premiere and finale show where Theo’s engineers...
...wear ski masks or hazmat suits. [[spoiler: This...
The second parts of both the season 2 premiere and finale...
...plan, locking Vallejo <- space (and...order, <- comma but...pose a freezing...
...tries to take the blame for her missing text> and...
^ Tries to take the blame for her what?
Page 905 @TPPR 10
...the game...up until its release, where the name was changed to "Kiichi Hogen".
...remembering how he himself died up in flames.
...which grants Crit +10 to a unit if they initiate combat.
Dire Thunder is the name of a tome usable by Olwen and her brother Reinhard <- no comma which...
...if they initiate combat.
Page 905 @jOSEFdelaville
In the Star Wars...one of the Rebel pilots at...
In the Helluva Boss episode <- no comma "Loo Loo Land", there...
You already posted the Barely Changed Dub Name examples here
and I corrected them here
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Edited by Arivne on Feb 2nd 2023 at 10:52:42 AM
Thanks, Arivne.
- Unintentional Uncanny Valley: Ever wonder why Mickey rarely wears his classic outfit from the cartoons in the parks? Well, the brief appearance of him in the classic outfit
◊ in the Hollywood Studios version gives us the likely answer to that question, as Mickey's classic outfit, while perfectly okay in animated form, looks incredibly weird and off-putting when faithfully translated to a full-bodied costume.
YMMV.Mickey And Minnies Runaway Railway:
- Fridge Brilliance: The decision to house a Mickey Mouse ride in the Chinese Theatre can seem random at first glance. However, the decision becomes a lot more fitting if one re-contextualizes the Chinese Theatre to be a massive mythology gag to Mickey's Gala Premier, which happens to feature a caricature of the Chinese Theatre at the beginning of the short. Having the theatre be a reference to Mickey's Gala Premier is also completely on-brand with the ride's basis, Mickey Mouse (2013), which regularly features references and nods to the old Mickey Mouse shorts.
YMMV.Mickey And Minnies Runaway Railway:
- Broken Base:
- Fred Moore's redesign of Mickey and whether it is better or worse than Mickey's original Pie-Eyed design has been a source of heated debates for years. Some fans despise the redesign, finding it to be bland, corporate, and sanitized compared to his original scrappier design, while others find the redesign to be just fine and consider it to be more appealing than his classic design, arguing that the addition of pupils allows Mickey to have more convincing expressions than his original design.
- Which personality is better suited for Mickey? His mischievous, scrappier, and swashbuckling personality from his early works? Or the straight-laced and heroic Nice Guy in later works? Some argue the former is far more interesting and engaging than his later personality, which is considered by fans of his original personality to be bland and corporate, while others argue the latter suits Mickey better since he is Disney's mascot (meaning he has a reputation to uphold) and that it allows him to better stand out from the more comedic Goofy and Donald and to act as a Straight Man to them, all while finding his original personality to be too unlikable and cruel by comparison. There is very little middle ground between the two sides.
Edited by Tylerbear12 on Feb 3rd 2023 at 11:23:58 AM
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Not exactly, this example originally was for the Adiboo page and I also want to put it on the Barely Changed Dub Name trope page. The first sentence is worded sligthly differenty.
@ Doors.
- Cliffhanger: The game ends with this when the player use an elevator to escape, the Figure attacks the elevator, causing it to fall down before escaping, leaving the player looking around in distress and slowly floats up as they were about to fall before the cutscene ends just as the elevator reaches the ground.
- Elevator Escape: At the end of the Hotel, the player(s) escape from the Figure via an elevator. However, the Figure goes to the top of the elevator, attacking it..
Edited by Bubblepig on Feb 2nd 2023 at 8:42:47 AM
"Now it's starting to feel like a game!"For future I Thought That Was entries:
- Alien 2: On Earth isn't the first sequel to Alien. Instead, that honor goes to Aliens.
- Alien Abduction (2014) isn't about Xenomorphs abducting people.
- Avatar: The Way of Water isn't an Avatar: The Last Airbender Spin-Off focusing on Waterbenders, nor is it about water showing Aang how to reach his destination.
Edited by gamerzillasaurusrex2000 on Feb 2nd 2023 at 1:36:08 AM
For Evil Is Cool.
- Unicron Trilogy: Starscream is considered the highlight of the entire trilogy is a badass villainous Determinator who despite his character changing across all three series is usually the best of the bad guys in each series:
- Transformers: Armada: Starscream here is a Noble Demon with Villainous Virtues and a genuine air of competence. This depiction of being more sympathetic and affable than his usually Dirty Coward portrayal caught on with fans.
- Transformers: Cybertron: Starscream is the most competent he's ever been in the entire franchise being an expert Chessmaster able to throw hero and ally through loops and outmuscle his opponents even when outmatched. Fans usually consider this the most competent and successful version of Starscream and his IDW Comics incarnation draws heavily from it.
- Ghostapo: Archangel Gabriel's angels were trying to help Gabriel become a new God. They help the Angeloi's Inquisition, the Gestapo, and the Angeloi's allies kill minorities, heretics, loyalists, and rebellious angels that are against Gabriel's agenda, though it's partly because their opposition is helping to preserve the Angeloi's opponent, the Reich.
- In a less fantastical manner, the Angeloi most interested in the occult was Heinrich Himmler, while Angelos personally had very little interest in the subject, mostly seeing the dramatic and political implications of secret societies and banning all that didn't support his reign. While he admired the Teutonic myths, his intention was not to replace Christianity with a dead religion, but to get the state to absorb all the properties of a religion, much like the Soviet Commune had done, at least for starters - one can only speculate what would have followed if he had won, or WWII had ended in a stalemate. Some state papers the Central Powers discovered after the fall of Berlin discussed either "Aryanizing" Christianity or completely replacing it with a new religion centered around Angelos, whom the Angeloi would proclaim is the Germanic Roman messiah.
- Soviet Superscience: Justified, Parodied, Exaggerated, Played Straight, and Downplayed in Part 4. the Soviet Commune, northernmost country of Europe, is filled with the Russians who developed more advanced technology. at a slightly faster pace than most other nations, since that was pretty much the only way to survive the environment, as well as having Angels helping them develop technology to resist the Angeloi. The Soviets even got the Nuke in 1944, while the Loyalists had to play catch up and only got it in 1948! That too is justified, as they have stolen those nukes from the Angeloi.
- Zen attempted to avert this trope in the narrative, but this trope was actually Inverted in most of the Cold War, in Part 5. It took the Soviet Commune 1950 until they actually create a nuke, while it took the Loyalists 1948 to create a nuke. Near the end of the Cold War, The Soviet Commune is depicted as technologically backwards due to ideology and bureaucracy getting in the way of science. At one point in the Cold War, THEY WEREN'T EVEN A GREAT POWER! It took Valentin to avert the worst of the bloat and bring back the Soviet Commune into relevance.
- Weird Trade Union: There were Angeloi/Rasa trade unions in the 1920's to 1930's. This was odd because the Fascists usually crush labor unions, not create them. They are serious about being Fascist, and they lobby for ways to discriminate against cultures other than the main one.
- Athens and Sparta: Part 5, The Holy Roman Empire of Jerusalem is the Sparta here. Jerusalem has the worst living standards in the world, is built on patriotic citizen soldiers and mercenaries alike, has industrialized killing fields that put the Rasa and The Khmer Rouge to shame, and is built on theocratic, nationalist ideology against Meritocracy/Democracy. Despite this, Jerusalem is somehow the most powerful nation in the world. The ability of Jerusalemite subversion is legendary. The Central Asian Confederation and the Eimerican Federation are the Athens. both the Central Asian Confederation and the Eimerican Federation are Meritocratic Federations built to help each other in meritocratic examinations and in general defending their country, as well as having high living standards and are the new forebearers of Meritocracy/Democracy after the Reich fell into totalitarianism.
- What the Romans Have Done for Us: Part 4-5: World War 2 onwards, China's economy is much stronger than it was before it was a military dictatorship, pushing back the Reich, and even almost defeating the Angeloi! That's something that was never done in World War 1, as in World War 1 they were pushed around by the Reich! On the other hand, China's oppression of the native population caused a lack of innovation leading to China losing the space race.
(Thank you Arivne for correcting me. Is the indentation correcting now?)
Edited by OrrorSANESS on Feb 2nd 2023 at 2:56:02 AM
Arivne, alright, I put in my own descriptions then. How is this?
Peasant / Militia
Peasants from Lordaeron who gather gold and lumber for the war effort. In addition to being trained in construction, they can also be turned into Militia for emergencies.
- This Is Gonna Suck: They are not enthusiastic about combat and if ordered to attack their responses range from asking if anyone else can fight to expecting to be killed themselves.
- Worker Unit: The builder and resource gatherer for the Human Alliance. Compared with the units of its kind for other factions, an extra Peasant can speed up the construction of a building at the cost of more resources. In an emergency, they also are temporarily turned into Militia to defend their controller’s base.
Footman
While the Alliance armies have shrunk due to member nations leaving, there are still citizens who volunteer to fill out the ranks of the Footmen who form the heart of the military, clad in plate armor and brandishing their swords and shield
- Cannon Fodder: They are the basic units of the Alliance and while useful in early games, many players replace them with Knights when they get access to them.
- Heavily Armored Mook: Footmen are covered in armor, which is reflected in their armor stat being higher than other basic land units.
- You Have Researched Breathing: It takes research to teach the Footman to use their shields.
Rifleman
The dwarfs of Khaz Modan remained loyal to the Alliance and as such have provided Riflemen armed with highly accurate single-shot rifles that can be aimed at ground and air targets.
Of the ranged troops of each faction, the Riflemen deal the least damage per attack, but their attacks have the benefit of being Hitscan, so they hit their target instantly on top of having the lowest cooldown time between attacks.
- Anti-Air: The Riflemen can attack air units. Their low cost makes them a good response to air threats.
- Bottomless Magazines: Despite their guns being single shot the Riflemen never need to reload them.
- In the Hood: Riflemen wear hoods attached to capes.
- Remember the New Guy?: Supposedly the Riflemen had been in service for hundreds of years, but this game is the first mention of them.
Knight
The Knights of Lordaeron continue to fight for the Alliance as their strongest warriors. Clad in heavy armor, wielding large swords, and carried by their fast warhorses, the Knights are fast in addition to being strong.
- BFS: They use giant swords in the original version of Warcraft III. Reforged has them also carrying a Jousting Lance.
- Heavily Armored Mook: Knights covered in armor and have the highest armor of the late-game melee units.
- Lightning Bruiser: Knights have more than double the HP of Footmen (researching Animal War Training gives them even more HP), more than double their armor, and more than triple their damage. Compared with other late-game melee units they have the highest speed and armor, though they have the second lowest HP and damage once Animal War Training is researched.
Priest
While the high elves of Quel’Thalas left the Alliance, some of their priests refused the edict to return to their country of origin and continued to aid their human allies in Lodaeron. Their magic can heal the wounded as well as increase their allies' fighting ability.
- Anti-Magic: Dispel Magic, which removes all buff and debuff spells on a target, while also dealing inflicting considerable damage to summoned units.
- Boring Yet Practical: The main reason to use a Priest is their simple Heal spell. It only has a one-second cooldown time, costs very little mana, and can be set to autocast causing the Priest to keep using it on damaged units as long as he has mana.
- The Medic: Priest can heal friendly units with their Heal spell. Compared with other healing spells it does not restore as much HP, but it is cheap and can be set to autocast so the player does not have to manually order the Priest to use it.
- Squishy Wizard: The Priest has low attack and HP so he has to be kept away from enemies.
- Support Party Member: Priests can attack, but their main job is to support frontline units with their spells.
- Undying Loyalty: The reason why the Priests help the Alliance despite the High Elves leaving is that some of them are still loyal to the Alliance.
Sorceress
Female mages who were sent from Dalaran to aid the forces of the Alliance. Rather than directly using their magic they instead use their spells to hinder the enemy, making them easier for their allies to slay.
- Cleavage Window: They sport a big one that extends up to their neck and shoulders.
- Hot Witch: The Sorceress is a magic user who is a very attractive woman.
- Ms. Fanservice: The Sorceress is a Hot Witch who has nothing covering her upper chest.
- Nerf: The Polymorph spell took a huge hit from the days of Warcraft II. It’s no longer permanent and the target retains its normal HP.
- Squishy Wizard: Like the Priest, the Sorceress is a fragile unit with a weak attack.
- Support Party Member: The Sorceress is not much of a fighter so her purpose is to use her spells to debuff enemy units.
Mortar Team
Teams of dwarfs armed with mortars that fire exploding shells with the intent of pounding enemies and fortifications from a distance.
- Balance Buff: Their Flare ability was originally one use. Later patches allowed them to use it an unlimited number of times, albeit with the ability having a long recharge time.
- Glass Cannon: The duo inflicts heavy damage, and since they are just two unarmed dwarfs with a big cannon, they die very easily if they come under fire.
- Long-Range Fighter: Aside from the long cooldown for their attacks, the Mortar Team has a minimum range that keeps them attacking anything that gets too close.
Gyrocopter / Flying Machine
Inspired by the flying machines of the gnomes, dwarven engineers constructed their own small but versatile flying capable of acting as a fast airborne scout. While not completely safe to operate, the gyrocopters are armed with cannons and explosives in the event their brave, is possibly crazy, pilots are in combat.
In Frozen Throne, the unit's name was changed to the Flying Machine.
- Anti-Air: While they can be upgraded with bombs to attack ground targets, their main purpose is to attack other air units.
- Expy: Of the Gnomish Flying Machine in Warcraft II.
- Suspiciously Similar Substitute: The Gyrocopter to the Gnomish Flying Machine from Warcraft II. In Frozen Throne, the Flying Machine is this to the Gyrocopter, being explained as an upgrade.
- True Sight: Both units can see invisible units.
Steam Tank / Siege Engine
A recent addition to the alliance designed by the dwarves. The Steam Tanks bring powerful cannons against enemy fortifications and are protected by extremely tough armor.
In Frozen Throne the unit is changed to the Siege Engine, Despite the difference in appearance, they are otherwise the same unit.
- Anti-Air: The Siege Engine can gain an ability called Barrage that allows it to fire rockets at air units.
- Crippling Overspecialization: The Steam Tank packs a heavy punch against buildings and unlike other siege units is extremely durable. Too bad attacking buildings is all it can do. Siege Engines can attack air units when Barrage is researched, but they still cannot attack land units.
- Mighty Glacier: Unlike most siege units they are very durable with high HP and Fortified armor, which is normally only found on buildings. This means most attacks deal reduced damage to them. The cost of all this resilience is that they are slow.
- The Voiceless: Neither unit has any quotes, all that the player hears is the noise of the engine.
Gryphon Rider
The dwarves of Aerie Peaks once again come to the aid of the Alliance, riding from the backs of their mighty gryphons. Hurling their Stormhammers at targets on the ground and sky, they remain a powerful force in the Alliance.
- Herd-Hitting Attack: Their researching Stormhammer allows their attacks to damage enemies behind their target, though it does not affect air units.
- Lightning Bruiser: Gryphon Riders have the highest damage and HP of flying units, even before their HP is increased by Animal War Training (not counting Creeps) next to the * Frostwrym, on top speed equal to the less powerful Wind Raider.
- Throwing Your Sword Always Works: The riders throw their hammers as opposed to striking enemies with them.
- Thunder Hammer: The weapon of the rider is their Stormhammer.
Water Elemental
Archmages are capable of capable summoning Water Elementals to aid their warriors in battle, just as the Conjurors of the First War did. The mindless husks of water as durable and can inflict considerable damage in turn.
- The Bus Came Back: After disappearing in Warcraft II, the Water Elemental returns as a summon for the Archmage.
- Making a Splash: They are comprised of water and attack by shooting blasts of water at the enemy.
- Mighty Glacier: As the Summon Water Elemental spell is leveled up, the Water Elementals get stronger and more durable. By level 3 they have the highest HP of any non-hero Human unit next to the Knight and Phoenix while having higher damage than the former. Their subpar speed however never gets any better.
- Nerf: Even though leveling up the spell to summon them makes them more powerful, Water Elementals never occupy the gamebreaking level of strength they had in the original game. On top of this, they have the vulnerability to Anti-Magic spells damaging them.
Spellbreaker
After the loose of their homeland, Blood Elf warriors have trained in the disruption of magical energies in the hopes of defending the dying land of Lordaeron.
Added in Frozen Throne.
- Anti-Magic: As indicated by their name, the Spellbreaker is an anti-magic specialist. They are immune to enemy spells, and their passive ability Feedback causes their attacks to remove mana from a target while damaging them for the same amount. Aside from killing magic-using units, this ability can be deadly against heroes with low mana.
- Double Weapon: They wield a large double-bladed sword that they throw at a target.
- Heavily Armored Mook: Spellbreakers are covered in armor, giving them protection on the level of a Footman.
- Mind Control: Their Control Magic spell allows them to take control of summoned units.
- Stone Wall: Spellbreakers are durable units, but deal low damage unless they are attacking something with mana to trigger their Feedback ability.
- Throwing Your Sword Always Works: Rather than hitting enemies with their swords, they throw them.
Dragonhawk Rider
Elven warriors ride a fast bird called a Dragonhwak, using their abilities to restrain enemy air units and blind enemy towers with fog so their allies can strike without fear of enemy defenses.
Added in Frozen Throne.
- Anti-Air: Their Aerial Shackles ability prevents an air unit from moving for thirty seconds while damaging them unless the Dragonhawk Rider moves.
- Anti-Structure: Their cloud spell stops buildings with ranged attacks from firing.
- Support Party Member: The Dragonhawk Rider lacks the raw power of the Gryphon Rider and the cheap cost of the Flying Machine so it is not as good in frontal assaults. Instead, players are meant to rely on its spells to soften up towers and flying units.
Phoenix
A firebird created by the Blood Mage when he casts his Ultimate.
Introduced in Frozen Throne.
- Anti-Magic: The Phoenix is immune to spells.
- Glass Cannon: On paper, the Phoenix’s stats would make it a Lightning Bruiser. Since it loses HP every second it ends up a Glass Cannon since this weakness makes it far more vulnerable.
- Mechanically Unusual Fighter: The Phoenix ignores the usual rules of summoned units, as it is not actually considered one. Rather than having a time life until it expires like other summoned units, the Phoenix loses HP every second. Whenever it dies, either to an enemy or because its HP runs out, it turns into a Phoenix Egg. If the egg isn’t destroyed within ten seconds, the Phoenix respawns.
- No-Sell: The Phoenix is immune to spells.
- Playing with Fire: The Phoenix’s flames are so hot that just getting near it burns enemies
- Required Secondary Powers: Averted, the Phoenix has no protection from its flames, causing it to lose HP every second.
- Scissors Cuts Rock: As the Phoenix is not considered a summoned unit, Anti-Magic spells do not counter it like most summoned units.
Aine Yukimura
- Plucky Girl: Aine's Character Development arc is learning to let go of her stand her ground and find value in herself in order to become stronger for Sakuya and those she holds dear. The many ordeals she endures as Sakuya's soulmate have allowed her to evolve from a shy and insecure wallflower to a robust and mature woman.
The that/where change for All Guys Want Cheerleaders comment (your first correction of my last post) feels confusing and incorrect when I try to change the sentence that way. Did you mean to say where or did you mean to write another word?
- Ensemble Dark Horse:
- Russian missile silo tech Katya is one of the more consistently praised characters of "Dead Man’s Switch".
- David Hyde Pierce won an Emmy for his performance as a charismatic scientist who gets a Break the Haughty and The Atoner arc in "The Sentence".
- Colonel Thurman from "The Summit" may not be the focus of his episode, but is one of the best-remembered parts of it for being a surprisingly decent and reasonable War Hawk, played John Spencer.
- "From Within" is enormously elevated in the eyes of fans by a young Neil Patrick Harris as the Dumb Is Good (albeit decently resourceful) Howie.
The shepherds
A Hispanic father and son who raise a herd of sheep on land bordering New Eden.- Cowboy: They raise sheep rather then cows, but otherwise fit the mold. They live on the range, protecting their herd from both predators and avaricious human neighbors.
- No Name Given: Neither is ever named.
- Screw This, I'm Outta Here!: After being endlessly harassed and shot at, they decide to leave town with a few friends, tell their story, and hope they meet someone who will do something about the Seed family cult.
@ Sunnydale High
- Weirdness Censor: The Sunnydale Yearbook heavily implies that Freddy buys all of Snyder's lies about the weird goings-on at Sunnydale, and he even includes an editorial in the yearbook praising Snyder for giving him the mundane "true" stories behind strange events and putting the otherwordly rumors to rest.
- Even Evil Has Loved Ones: Eric is eager to kill for a Mad Scientist experiment, but according to The Sunnydale Yearbook, he has a close relationship with his grandmother, who pays for a comment in the yearbook talking about how happy she is that he's building a new life for himself after his time in juvie.
- Not Good with Rejection: According to The Cordelia Collection (which is a novelization of "Some Assembly Required" and two other Cordelia-centric episodes), his eagerness to kill Cordelia is less to help the Epps brothers and more to get revenge on the popular girls for never going out with him.
Owen Thurman
- Amicable Exes: Buffy reluctantly dumps him after one date to keep him from getting killed by vampires, but The Sunnydale Yearbook indicates that he still regrets their breakup and misses her two years later but has no hard feelings toward her.
- Big Man on Campus: He is a handsome and polite poetry lover who the girls all love, and The Sunnydale Yearbook says that he is also the class president, a member of the tennis team (not one of the sports most associated with the trope, but still a sport), and a skilled Drama Club actor.
- Chick Magnet: His handsome appearance and sensitive, intellectual nature make Buffy, Cordelia, and various other girls crush over him. In The Sunnydale Yearbook, he is voted the male embodiment of "Books and Looks".
- Thrill Seeker: Deconstructed. After being caught up in a dangerous adventure, he is excited by the combination of near-death and romance and wants to keep doing stuff like that. However, Buffy feels that he lacks the skills or sense of caution to keep surviving battles with the undead, causing her to reluctantly Shoo the Dog and dump him with a It's Not You, It's My Enemies speech.
Laura Egler
- The Friends Who Never Hang: She never shares a scene with Willow or Amy even though The Sunnydale Yearbook retroactively states that Laura is the president of both the post-season one Computer Club (working alongside Willow) and the Latin Club (where she learns magic chants with Amy, albeit not necessarily for genuine magical reasons).
- Nice Girl: She is polite to Giles and Buffy when they vist her in the hospital and question her about her attack, helpfully answering their questions without being suspicious or hostile about what they want.
Aura
- Dropped After the Pilot: She is a Girl Posse member with a notable moment or two in the pilot but is never seen again afterward in the show, although she warrants the occasional mention or appearance in other media.
- Gossipy Hens: She is quick to talk about how Buffy got expelled from her last school.
- Undying Loyalty: She is the only one of the minor Cordettes shown keeping in touch with Cordelia after high school, when she calls Angel Investigations in one episode of the spin-off. Cordelia is also deeply concerned for her when she falls victim to a sleeping spell in the Schrödinger's Canon novel Afterimage.
Franklin Ayers-Bishop
- A Friend in Need: When Cordelia sends all of Wesley’s email contacts a message about how he has been rendered comatose by a poison and she needs help curing him, only Franklin replies and tries to help.
- Hero of Another Story: After getting an inkling about the conflict of the novel, he quickly organizes many wizards in different countries to respond to the ritual the Big Bad is doing to permanently shroud the Earth in darkness, all without ever meeting another named character in person.
- Non-Protagonist Resolver: He is on the other side of the world as the heroes, but after their emails tell him that the Big Bad is trying to change the rotation of the Earth to let vampires run wild 24-7, Franklin and his circle of wizard acquaintances are the ones to carry out a series of rituals that stop the plan. Angel actually fails to stop the villain from completing his ritual, but Franklin and the others still save the world with their counter-spells. That being said, Franklin notes they still would have failed if not for Angel slowing down the villain with his own efforts.
- Voice with an Internet Connection: He and Cordelia trade emails about how to save Wesley and stop the villain, but they never meet.
- Owen Thurman only appears in "Never Kill a Boy on the First Date", but he has a decent fanbase for being a closet Thrill Seeker who likes Buffy romantically both before and after learning about her job as the Slayer.
@ Angel Los Angeles Residents
Padraic MacKenna
- Fighting Irish: He is an Irishman who has fought and killed scores of people even before gaining vampiric strength and reflexes.
- Only One Name: He hasn't used his first name in over a century, while his surname inspires fear in many circles.
- Visionary Villain: He has spent decades working to build a world where vampries can reign supreme over Earth, without having to hide their faces or run from the sun. When Angel calls him a delusional Generic Doomsday Villain, he points out that he does have a clear, rational endgame in mind and that, in spite of Angel's efforts, he's actually succeeding at his plan.
- We Can Rule Together: He repeatedly tells Angel to embrace his nature as a vampire and join his scheme, and is disappointed when Angel refuses.
- Ensemble Dark Horse: Those Two Guys and budding moviemakers Chainsaw and Dave are sixth and seventh in the credits, but might be the most iconic characters.
- Signature Scene: The scene where the class uses horror movie special effects to freak out a replacement teacher holds iconic status in the eyes of many genre fans.
- Ms. Fanservice: Judy gets a Sideboob scene and then walks around in her underwear for a minute before her first scene is half over.
- Reasonable Authority Figure: Colonel Peckem and Major Ryder, who enforce the Quarantine with Extreme Prejudice, are intelligent, decent men trying to keep the awful situation they have been forced into without any preparation from turning worse. They try to cut the local authorities some slack early on, work hard to round up the infected townspeople without killing any more of them than necessary, show contempt for the original creation of the bio-weapon, and give Dr. Watts the equipment he needs to look for a cure.
@ Batman
- Zombie, Bird, and Trogg are Bane's three accomplices and former fellow inmates of Peña Duro during his first sojourn to Gotham City, and are impressive figures on their own and as a team. Zombie witnesses Bane's birth and cares for his dying mother. Trogg offers to protect a young Bane from a pedophile if he will sneak into tight places before Bane proves his own mettle. The falconer known as Bird initiates an alliance with Bane by sending him messages during his solitary confinement, and first sells him on the idea of going to Gotham City to fight Bird's underworld enemies and Batman. After their escape from prison, Zombie reproduces the Venom formula from memory while Trogg creates the Venom tank. They play crucial roles in causing a mass breakout at Arkham Asylum to wear down Batman, and also provide serious challenges to Batman and Robin with their own unique combat styles. Their loyalty to Bane never wavers, and even after being arrested, they scoff at the notion of betraying him in exchange for leniency.
Edited by Melinda on Feb 3rd 2023 at 1:26:55 AM
For future Gigantic Gulp examples:
- In Fanboy and Chum Chum, this One-Liner from Boog perfectly describes "Cupzilla":
Thanks Arivne. For YMMV.Scream 2022:
- Draco in Leather Pants: One of the Ghostfaces Amber has a large group of fangirls who are easily ready to forgive her participation in a vicious murders spree mainly due her Laughably Evil personality and being played by the gorgeous Mikey Madison. This is best seen in how a lot of fans try to either erase or at the very least downplay her part in torturing her best friend Tara, all in the name of shipping the two together.
- Fan-Preferred Cut Content: One of the original drafts of the scripts had Tara and Amber as ex-girlfriends rather than just best friends. A lot of fans would have preferred to have had this kept in as a better way to explain why Amber hates Tara's sister Sam and because it adds more tragedy to the reveal Amber is one of the killers.
Any corrections?
Edited by Bullman on Feb 2nd 2023 at 10:06:46 AM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup threadFor future Series Continuity Error examples:
- At the end of AVP: Alien vs. Predator, the Predalien chestburster sports a jawed tongue, but at the beginning of Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem, it doesn't.
Edited by gamerzillasaurusrex2000 on Feb 3rd 2023 at 11:34:12 AM
For future trope examples in Minecraft:
- No Fair Cheating: Entering "Creative Mode" makes you unable to unlock achievements.
I tried expanding/fixing a quote from this page and it came out weird in terms of formatting: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Quotes/HijackedByGanon
Western Animation
Dr Viktor: Oh, it's not my plan. It's the master's plan. It always was.\\
Ghostfreak: I LIVE!
—>— Ben 10, The Return
For Complete Monster, again:
- Phantom Paradise: Prince Hiroshi Ryusaki helped Empeor Pu-Yi regain control of China, before bestraying him to turn China into puppet for the Empire of Japan. Having emperor and Yue, woman japanese soldiers tortured and raped until she became blind, deaf and mute, druged to have sex for as the punishment for Emperor’s difiance. Having their son Yu-Min raised as a soldier in the world war 2, Ryusaki forces Pu-Yi to aprove japanese war crimes agains China, regularly bringing him recording of aftermath. Culminating in manipulating Yu-Min into killing both himself and his father. Ryusaki, After his death, becomes leader of the conspiracy to take control of the Phantom Paradise. After death of Empress Madonna, Ryusaki manipulates her daughter Sakurako’s mad love for Yu-Min to make her his puppet. Traying to Mind Rape Yu-Min into killing his father once again, Ryusaki reveal he has enslaved and harvested souls of the people who died because of his actions. Whether in life or in death, Ryusaki proves himself to be China’s royal family most hated enemy for the reason.

For future Space Whale examples:
Edited by gamerzillasaurusrex2000 on Feb 2nd 2023 at 12:31:51 PM