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This thread is for tropers who have trouble with English and would like some help with the crazy grammar of this crazy language.

Write down what you wish to edit on the wiki. If you have been suspended from editing, another troper might be kind enough to edit for you after your suggestions have been corrected.

The thread is for help and feedback on your own suggested edits.

If you want help correcting other people's edits (e.g., if you find a page which seems to have grammar problems but want a second opinion, or you don't feel able to fix it by yourself) then that's off-topic here, but we have a separate Grammar Police cleanup thread that can provide assistance.

Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#22076: Jan 11th 2023 at 8:05:07 AM

Page 883 @Melinda

...close shakes her faith...escape. And When she learns...

Edited by Arivne on Jan 11th 2023 at 8:05:36 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#22077: Jan 11th 2023 at 8:06:27 AM

Page 883 @Orror SANESS

I have already corrected all of that.

OrrorSANESS Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#22078: Jan 11th 2023 at 8:44:06 AM

@Arivne, is it all correct now? Or is there still spelling corrections that need to be done?

Tylerbear12 What you see is what you get, just a guy. from The Green Hills. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
What you see is what you get, just a guy.
#22079: Jan 11th 2023 at 9:18:10 AM

Thanks, Arivne.

gamerzillasaurusrex2000 Since: Sep, 2022 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#22080: Jan 11th 2023 at 9:44:23 AM

For future examples of Monster Delay:

  • Zig-Zagged in Minecraft:
    • Downplayed with Overworld hostile mobs that generally appear several minutes into a given playthrough at night and in dark areas.
    • Played Straight with Nether mobs that don't appear until the player builds an obsidian portal to the Alternate Dimension and lights it with a flint-and-steel much later in the game.
    • Exaggerated with the Ender Dragon that exclusively appears in the End dimension, which requires players to place twelve Eyes of Ender onto an End portal to access.

Edited by gamerzillasaurusrex2000 on Jan 12th 2023 at 9:21:38 AM

BloodRedKnight Since: Nov, 2019
#22081: Jan 11th 2023 at 11:12:59 AM

Hello, so I passed the bulleting portion of my test so I was asked to post grammatically correct edits. I have done that for the past month, so can I just count those toward that? Or do you want me to repost them?

Kuruni (Long Runner)
#22082: Jan 11th 2023 at 11:22:09 AM

Would like to add this to Mobile Suit Gundam: The Witch from Mercury – Benerit Group.

Pet the Dog: Vim is an Abusive Parent, but he still cares about Guel deep down. Although it's against Guel's desire to remain at Asticassia, Vim sending Guel to learn about business at one of their subsidiaries implies he wants Guel to inherit the company. When Vim heard from Guel again in episode 12, he smiles and tells his son how he's searching for him despite being fatally wounded.

FateStayWho Since: Jul, 2016
#22083: Jan 11th 2023 at 1:35:41 PM

@Arivne thanks.

Degrassi Junior High Season 1 Ep 04 The Cover Up

Everyone Has Standards: Joey is a bully who has fun at other people's expense, but even he is horrified by Rick’s abusive father.

FateStayWho Since: Jul, 2016
#22084: Jan 11th 2023 at 1:38:03 PM

Captain Rex

Kick The Son Of A Bitch: General Kenobi and I killed a group of Zygerrian slavers during a mission to rescue the Togrutans they abducted. The slavemaster Agruss was unarmed and pointed out that the Jedi Code forbade Obi-Wan from killing an unarmed man. I’m no Jedi, and not bound by any such code.

Power Rangers Lost Galaxy

Slavery Is a Special Kind of Evil: Captain Mutiny kidnaps people from ships that end up in the Lost Galaxy and uses them as slave labor to mine for treasure. From the moment we see them it’s made clear he is a cruel master, with it being implied his slaves are worked to death. Later, we see that slaves who fail to meet their quotas are murdered on the spot.

Age Of Empires II Campaigns

Edward I Longshanks

Historical Badass Upgrade: The narrator in the William Wallace campaign mentions Edward has waged successful campaigns in England, Wales, and France. The real-life Edward Longshanks had victories in a civil war, and conquered Wales, but did not fight any successful wars in France.

Henry V

Historical Downgrade: Downplayed. The scenario opens with him fleeing after a failed siege of Harfleur. In real life, Henry V successfully captured Harfleur, though his victory was costly, forcing him to retreat to the English-controlled port of Calais.

Dragon Ball DC

Lex Luthor

Adding to Ambiguously Evil

  • The end of the Doom Saga reveals his Heel–Face Turn was faked and he is still plotting to rule the world.
Big Bad: Of the Doom Saga.

Evil All Along: At the end of the Doom Saga it's revealed his Heel–Face Turn was faked, he's still out to Take Over the World.

Edited by FateStayWho on Jan 11th 2023 at 3:29:33 AM

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#22085: Jan 11th 2023 at 3:31:48 PM

For OneTrueThreesome.Live Action TV:

  • Wednesday: Larissa Weems/Morticia/Gomez Addams has quickly gathered a following in the fandom as a popular threesome pairing. Weems and Morticia were roommates at Nevermore and have a lot of tension in the present, Gomez and Morticia are happily married, and a lot of fans ship Morticia with both of them.

Any corrections?

Edited by Bullman on Jan 11th 2023 at 5:37:05 AM

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
Angrybirds123456 Since: Jun, 2021
#22086: Jan 11th 2023 at 4:26:05 PM

For the Hey Arnold WMG Page.

A couple of thoughts for the episode "Olga Gets Engaged"
  • One, Helga was secretly happy that Olga had found someone, considering her "luck" with Arnold.
  • Two, being an actor was the only thing Doug told the truth about. Knowing how to act can be useful if you want to lie.
Any corrections?

Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#22087: Jan 11th 2023 at 7:24:57 PM

Thanks

Crossed

  • Uriah Gambit: In the first issue of "Grave New World", one of the children in Captain Barnes’ group says that fundamentalist leader killed Melissa and Leo, two other members of the group, for breaking his rule against anyone having sex. Another kid protests that Barnes only sent them out on a scavenging mission, with the first kid replying that this is a Distinction Without a Difference. The beginning of the next issue shows Melissa and Leo finding a barge loaded with valuable supplies. Melissa wants to use it to get accepted back by Barnes while Leo recognizes that Barnes sent them to die in the first place and never wants to see him again. This disagreement leads to Melissa striking Leo with a hatchet.

@ Jeremiah

@ Jeremiah

  • Season 2 One-Shot Character Frederick, who lives in one of the only areas where adults survived the Big Death, is a computer expert who played a large role in creating an artificial intelligence for their faction to act as a charismatic leader against the aggression of the Valhalla Sector.

Edited by Melinda on Jan 12th 2023 at 9:49:47 AM

Tylerbear12 What you see is what you get, just a guy. from The Green Hills. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
What you see is what you get, just a guy.
#22088: Jan 12th 2023 at 2:02:33 AM

Trivia.Mario Plus Rabbids Sparks Of Hope

  • Acclaimed Flop: Despite being just as well received as the original game, the game reportedly underperformed in sales, much to Ubisoft's surprise. This is likely due to the game being released in a very competitive holiday season, roughly around the same time as Bayonetta 3, Sonic Frontiers, and Pokémon Scarlet and Violet, all three of which were hotly anticipated titles for the Switch. Ubisoft also reportedly believes that it could have been due to a consumer shift "towards mega-brands and long-lasting titles".

Ride.Disney Theme Parks

  • Truer to the Text: Disneyland Paris' Sleeping Beauty Castle is a tall castle situated on a hilltop, which is far more accurate to the castle as depicted in Sleeping Beauty compared to Disneyland's Sleeping Beauty castle, which is a smaller castle directly sitting on the ground. Of course, Paris had the benefit of having their castle built 33 years after Sleeping Beauty came out, meaning it had a solid basis to go off on, unlike Disneyland's, which was built while the movie was still in production.

Edited by Tylerbear12 on Jan 12th 2023 at 2:02:37 PM

BloodRedKnight Since: Nov, 2019
#22089: Jan 12th 2023 at 7:41:58 AM

Fair enough, I was thinking that, but I wasn't sure so I did that because I got in trouble for bulleting wrong so I let myself believe that bulleting for the Seinfeld example was correct. I posted this before I'm just reposting just to double check to see if it counts to end my ban For Mom Bullet Dancing: While Alvin is in the hospital for a heart attack, he brings up the time Bonnie shot at him. When Christy asks why she did that, Bonnie says she wasn't trying to hurt him, she just wanted to make him dance like in western movies. It turns out she shot off his pinky toe instead.

For Night Gallery Real Men Love Jesus: Charlie Rogan, the insurance investigator from "The Miracle At Camafeo", takes greater offense to the fact the main character is plotting to abuse a religious shrine to aid in his con than the con itself. In his words, "When he cheats me that's fraud, when he cheats the kingdom of Heaven that's sacrilege."

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#22090: Jan 12th 2023 at 7:45:08 AM

[up] @gamerzillasaurusrex2000

Played Straight with Nether mobs that don't appear until when the...

...exclusively appears in the End dimension, <- comma which requires...

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#22091: Jan 12th 2023 at 7:48:01 AM

[up] @Blood Red Knight

Since it is the moderators who will decide whether what you have done before counts, you need to ask them on the Forum: Edit banned/Suspended - would like to edit again thread.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#22092: Jan 12th 2023 at 7:52:12 AM

[up] @Kuruni

Changed verbs to present tense as per How to Write an Example - Write in Historical Present Tense.

When Vim hears from Guel again in episode 12...

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#22093: Jan 12th 2023 at 8:02:26 AM

[up] @Fate Stay Who

From the moment they appear it’s made clear...Later, it's shown that slaves...

^ Writing this as if someone is talking ("we") goes against First-Person Writing.

The real-life Edward Longshanks had victories in a civil war <- no comma and...

Big Bad: Of the Doom Saga.

^ This is a Zero-Context Example because it doesn't explain how he's a Big Bad, it just says that he is.

At the end of the Doom Saga, <- comma it's...faked: <- colon he's still...

Edited by Arivne on Jan 12th 2023 at 8:03:03 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#22094: Jan 12th 2023 at 8:05:26 AM

[up] @Bullman

I don't see anything wrong with that example's English.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#22095: Jan 12th 2023 at 8:12:38 AM

[up] @Melinda

This disagreement leads to Melissa stabbing Leo with a hatchet.

^ When you attack someone with a hatchet, you normally "chop" or "cut" them with the blade. You can only stab them if the hatchet has a sharp point, like a knife or spear.

David, the head pilgrim from "Journeys End in Lovers Meeting", <- comma is...

...all have a decent number of fans.

What does Claire find after sailing to Europe in "To Sail Beyond the Stars"? <- question mark

trying to move onto something better) <- no comma and lament how it only aired...

Edited by Arivne on Jan 12th 2023 at 8:13:15 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#22096: Jan 12th 2023 at 8:16:56 AM

[up] @Tylerbear 12

This is likely due to the game being released in a very competitive holiday season, as it was released roughly...could have been due...

...meaning it had a solid basis to go off on, <- comma unlike Disneyland's...

OrrorSANESS Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#22097: Jan 12th 2023 at 9:29:22 AM

Complete Monster: Engelbert von Haynau, The Butcher of Lithuania, is trying to kill almost all Lithuanians, as well as other minorities in Livonia. He seems to have the equipment effectiveness of a 4-Star 1939-1942 American General, some of his equipment is more modern and more effective than that, but most are a lot less effective than even that. This is justified, as equipment in The Holy Roman Empire of Jerusalem is insanely INSANELY unequally distributed. He has an army up to hundreds of thousands of soldiers. He worn down Konstantinov, a general trying to avenge his homeland slowly until Konstantinov eventually got defeated. At one point, he destroyed the capital of Livonia, Vilinus, using missiles, killing all of the civilians that were still in Vilinus. He is offended with everything Livonian. He has enough control over his own soldiers that once he thinks of it, they all freeze. His ego is so pompous that he believes that killing almost everyone, leaving only Boris's men alive to be humiliated, imprisoned, tortured, and possibly get turned into zoo humans almost forever, with Livonia unconditionally surrendering to Jerusalem, is a "Generous Offer".

Heinous Standard: Complete Monster. Irredeemable and heads been burnt. The Lets Play has many figures that aren't complete Monsters like Josh, so what makes Von special? Von has done what Von has done even though Von had less sufficient, or effective equipment than Josh has, even though Von is in the 2030's, he makes with what he has been given with ruthless efficiency. Von uses Modern Tactics, usually with outdated weapons. Von was the first general in Jerusalem, that's NOT Elias, shown to simply blow up a city with a missile, which is all he can have as Von has no access to nukes. I'd say he meets the standards.

Final Verdict?:

Yes! This guy, Von is a Complete Monster, and there is no doubt about it!

Mitigating Factors: The Panopticon is something almost completely controlled by Theodor. Theodor controls Jerusalem's military due to these little implants called Panopticons which enhances senses like strength, numbs pain, keeps people out of reality in a way that makes people unable to smell blood. This is not truly mitigating because Von had enough control over his soldiers to make a peace deal, seemingly all on his own. This is why this is not a true mitigating factor, and Von is a Complete Monster. Also, another bombshell happened with the Panopticon. It is revealed that a person that has a strong enough will still do stuff in their own will and is thus in essence an enhancer and a nullifier, and not a truly effective brainwashing tool, and as a result... is only a More than Mind Control device and that at the very least, the generals still have agency over 80 percent of their actions. They can also overpower the mind control, usually becoming worse in the process, like Josh did.

Edited by OrrorSANESS on Jan 12th 2023 at 9:30:32 AM

Bubblepig Rei from Tokyo (Apprentice) Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
#22098: Jan 12th 2023 at 11:26:47 AM

@The Menu

  • Slipknot Ponytail: Margot's low bun updo hairstyle become undone when Elsa is trying to kill her in Julian's house, leaving Margot to spend the later half of the movie with her long red hair down.

I'm Thinking of Ending Things

  • Fan Disservice: The Janitor takes all his clothes off and spends a last few minutes naked. It's rather disturbing and depressing rather then appealing due to The Janitor having some hallucinations due to hypothermia and him being an out of shape old man.
  • Naked Nutter: The Janitor starts striping himself naked in his car (due to hypothermia) begins hallucinating of him going back to school and meets maggot-infested pig while in nude.

Edited by Bubblepig on Jan 12th 2023 at 9:13:59 AM

"Now it's starting to feel like a game!"
Tylerbear12 What you see is what you get, just a guy. from The Green Hills. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
What you see is what you get, just a guy.
#22099: Jan 12th 2023 at 12:24:20 PM

Thanks, Arivne

Main.Fandom Heresy:

  • Franchise.Sonic The Hedgehog: While the prototype/PC tracks in Sonic 3 & Knuckles have their fans and most won't care if you prefer them over their final Genesis counterparts, it isn't wise to suggest you prefer the prototype/PC version of Ice Cap over the final version by Brad Buxer unless you want fans to give you a hard time.

BrokenBase.Disney Theme Parks:
  • The Enchanted Storybook Castle tends to be the most divisive of the various Disney castles. Some love the castle for how big and grand it is, on top of incorporating all of the Disney princesses as opposed to favoring one. Others, however, find it to be Disney's worst castle, finding it to be too cluttered, too big, and lacking in personality compared to other castles.

  • B-Team Sequel: Tokyo Disneyland and Tokyo DisneySea are the only Disney parks to not be owned by Disney in any capacity. They are instead owned by The Oriental Land Company, with a license from Disney to use their properties and their Imagineers. This puts both parks in a rather unique position amongst the Disney parks, as because of the different owners, they are not as bound to the same Executive Meddling and restrictions the other Disney parks are prone to, causing both parks to become known as a breeding ground for more ambitious and out-there ideas that would otherwise not be allowed by Disney.

Edited by Tylerbear12 on Jan 13th 2023 at 6:09:30 AM

FateStayWho Since: Jul, 2016
#22100: Jan 12th 2023 at 1:16:32 PM

Arivne how is this?

Captain Rex

Kick The Son Of A Bitch: General Kenobi and I killed a group of Zygerrian slavers during a mission to rescue the Togrutans they abducted. The slavemaster Agruss was unarmed and pointed out that the Jedi Code forbade Obi-Wan from killing an unarmed man. I’m no Jedi, and not bound by any such code.

Power Rangers Lost Galaxy

Slavery Is a Special Kind of Evil: Captain Mutiny kidnaps people from ships that end up in the Lost Galaxy and uses them as slave labor to mine for treasure. From the moment they appear them it’s made clear he is a cruel master, with it being implied his slaves are worked to death. Later, it's shown that slaves who fail to meet their quotas are murdered on the spot.

Age Of Empires II Campaigns

Edward I Longshanks

Historical Badass Upgrade: The narrator in the William Wallace campaign mentions Edward has waged successful campaigns in England, Wales, and France. The real-life Edward Longshanks had victories in a civil war and conquered Wales, but did not fight any successful wars in France.

Henry V

Historical Downgrade: Downplayed. The scenario opens with him fleeing after a failed siege of Harfleur. In real life, Henry V successfully captured Harfleur, though his victory was costly, forcing him to retreat to the English-controlled port of Calais.

Dragon Ball DC

Lex Luthor

Adding to Ambiguously Evil

  • The end of the Doom Saga reveals his Heel–Face Turn was faked and he is still plotting to rule the world.
Big Bad: Of the Doom Saga, as the mastermind behind most of the supervillain activity throughout the arc.

Evil All Along: At the end of the Doom Saga, it's revealed his Heel–Face Turn was faked: he's still out to Take Over the World.


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