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Write down what you wish to edit on the wiki. If you have been suspended from editing, another troper might be kind enough to edit for you after your suggestions have been corrected.

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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#20851: Oct 25th 2022 at 10:25:56 AM

From page 834 @kawaiineko333

...the opposite of the "Best Boss" achievement: <- colon it means having...

Edited by Arivne on Oct 25th 2022 at 10:26:13 AM

brb1006 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#20852: Oct 25th 2022 at 4:46:21 PM

Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer

  • All-Loving Hero: In all appearances, Rudolph is shown to hold no ill will towards villains and antagonists. Here are a few examples from other animated works starring him.:
    • In the 1964 special, he just wanted to get along with the other reindeer at the North Pole but gets mocked by the other reindeer (with the exception of Clarice and his mother) due to his red nose. He and Hermey form a friendship due to their similarities as "Misfits" and close with Yukon Cornelius. While his relationship with Bumble has been sour during his life, Rudolph's relationship with the monster has gotten better by the end of the special. The direct-to-video sequel (set after the events of the original special) even shows Rudolph having a close friendship with Bumble.
    • In the 1998 movie, Rudolph is depicted closer to his original book counterpart where he's timid and very to everybody he encounters and meets. While Stormella has remained enemies with Santa and the other citizens of the North Pole since he was a fawn. Rudolph instantly saves her from falling down a cliff outside her ice castle and instantly befriends him after he promises her to be nice. Not only did he and Santa actually deliver presents to her on Christmas Eve, but is later seen singing and playing the famous "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer" song during the film's ending.

Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#20853: Oct 25th 2022 at 8:20:17 PM

@ Buffyverse: Watchers and Slayers

  • Knight Errant: Millie fights evil wherever she finds it and then leaves with her carnival within a few days, allowing her to do good in a large number of areas. Her Watcher and several others in the carnival know about her activities but she mainly works alone.
  • America Saves the Day: Eleanor is American, and ends up as the Slayer and Hero Antagonist at the end of Spike and Dry: Pretty Maids All in a Row when most of the other Watchers and Slayers in that book are European.

  • The Fatalist: India recalls that she worked hard at being the Slayer but that she also knew that the job would kill her in a few years and then another Slayer would replace her. This knowledge made it harder to fight to survive one battle when there would always be another one.
  • First-Person Smartass: She narrates a bit of the novel The Book of Fours, and makes quips like "As the old saying goes, 'Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.' Yeah, but they get the best seats."
  • Heroic Sacrifice: She recalls how her last fight was against a mummy that she knew outmatched her, but she was buying time for her Watcher/boyfriend and dog to get away.
  • Mama's Baby, Papa's Maybe: She isn't entirely convinced that her legal father is her biological father.
  • Superior Successor: She is the Slayer for three years while her predecessor only lasted for one.

@ Diary of a Wimpy Kid

    Diper Överlöde 
  • Compressed Hair: The Suck E. Cheese's security guard has quite a mass of hair under his cap, although it is a pretty bulky cap. This makes it harder to realize that he is the former Metalchihuahuas bassist until he takes off his cap to reveal his trademark spiky hair while watching the Battle of the Bands.
  • Deconstructed Character Archetype: Sebastian Sleeves is a deconstruction of the reclusive rockstar living in a Big Fancy House who serves as a potential source of wisdom and advice to younger musicians. He spent so much money on the house that, after the end of his music career, he had to sell all of his other luxury items to maintain the house. That money ran out too after a while, so his water and electricity got shut off years, if not decades, ago. His advice to Rodrick and the others boils down to getting out of the music business before they end up like him. He does make a comeback at the end of the book, though.
  • The Fellowship Has Ended: Near the end of the book, Rodrick's band breaks up and Bill gets a job with another band (although he comes back after they fire him) while the other two musicians accept that they are never going to be rock stars and enroll in college and go to work at the deli, respectively.
  • No Name Given: Drew's brother has several important scenes, but Greg only ever calls him "Drew's brother."

@ House of the Dragon

    Ser Steffon Darklyn 

Ser Steffon Darklyn

Played by: Anthony Flanagan
A long-serving Kingsguard member.
  • Adaptational Wimp: In the book, he smuggles Viserys' crown, himself, and several other soldiers and servants from King's Landing to Dragonstone and helps initiate Rhaenyra's Awesome Moment of Crowning. In the show, he is already guarding her at Dragonstone and Erryk brings the crown to Dragonstone.
  • An Offer You Can't Refuse: Once the Succession Crisis begins, Daemon threatens to kill him unless he renews his vows to serve Rhaenyra.
  • Bodyguarding a Badass: His bodyguard charge is a dragon rider who once fought and killed a boar.
  • Knight in Shining Armor: He seems like a proper knight so far, telling Jace not to be so rough on his brother during a sparring match and acting polite and respectful toward Rhaenyra despite the controversy behind her becoming heir.
  • Old Soldier: He joined the kingsguard during the reign of King Jaehaerys I and is serving his third monarch by the end of season one.

    Ser Lorent Marbrand 

Ser Lorent Marbrand

Played by: Max Wrottesley
One of Rhaenyra's sworn shields at Dragonstone.

Edited by Melinda on Oct 26th 2022 at 8:51:52 AM

Angrybirds123456 Since: Jun, 2021
#20854: Oct 25th 2022 at 9:13:46 PM

Yet another one for the Cuphead Awesome Music Page.

Any corrections needed?

Tylerbear12 What you see is what you get, just a guy. from The Green Hills. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
What you see is what you get, just a guy.
#20855: Oct 25th 2022 at 9:46:41 PM

Uhm hey, I've been editing on an entry I made over at Project Sekai awhile back and trying to fix it a tad. Is this good?

  • The SEKAI covers or the Virtual Singer versions? Some fans prefer the SEKAI covers because they're sung by real-life human singers as opposed to synthetic voices and argue the group-based nature of the SEKAI covers gives them greater energy and vocal versatility than the Virtual Singer versions, while others greatly prefer the Virtual Singer versions since they're closer to the producer's vision and have a unique sound that can't be recreated with human vocals, on top of being more from what they expect from a Hatsune Miku game. While many fans like both versions for different reasons, debates over which tracks are better can get heated. This also ties into the Fandom Rivalry between Sekai fans and Vocaloid fans, and into the greater debate on if vocal synthesizers are a suitable alternative to a human singer, despite the game supporting the existence and importance of the Virtual Singers.

Edited by Tylerbear12 on Oct 26th 2022 at 4:29:25 AM

Nukeli Since: Aug, 2018
#20856: Oct 26th 2022 at 4:29:08 AM

@ Transformers Prime Character And Object Speculations

The toyline-only Predacons are the ones who were destroyed in their tanks in "Evolution"

"Tales of the Beast Hunters" where they appear takes place in different continuity than the cartoon's third season. The point of divergence was propably in the Autobots' assault on the lab - the Predacons lived and broke out of their containers during the fight, presumably because for one reason or another, Shockwave couldn't push the button and escape the lab semi-immediately after the Wreckers showed up and was instead engaged in melee by Smokescreen.

~*bleh*~
CookieKirby from Italy Since: Aug, 2022
#20857: Oct 26th 2022 at 4:59:43 AM

Bro, amazing, it looks wonderful

Clare Since: Aug, 2009
#20858: Oct 26th 2022 at 6:25:00 AM

@ brb1006

Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer

  • All-Loving Hero: In all appearances, Rudolph is shown to hold no ill will towards villains and antagonists. (superfluous words - cut)
^ The second sentence is Word Cruft of the "this example is an example" variety, so I removed it.

  • In the 1964 special, he just wants to get along with the other reindeer at the North Pole but gets mocked by them (with the exception of Clarice and his mother) due to his red nose. He and Hermey form a friendship due to their similarities as "Misfits" and closeness with Yukon Cornelius. While his relationship with Bumble has been sour during his life, Rudolph's relationship with the monster has gotten better by the end of the special. The direct-to-video sequel (superfluous words - cut) even shows Rudolph having a close friendship with Bumble.
^ You don't need to say that the sequel is "set after the events of the original" because a sequel to any work takes place after the original by definition.

  • In the 1998 movie, Rudolph is depicted closer to his original book counterpart where he's timid (superfluous words - cut) around everybody he encounters (superfluous words - cut). Though Stormella has remained enemies with Santa and the other citizens of the North Pole since he was a fawn, (comma) Rudolph instantly saves her from falling down a cliff outside her ice castle and instantly befriends him after he persuades her to promise (superfluous word - cut) to be nice. Not only do he and Santa actually deliver presents to her on Christmas Eve, but she is later seen singing and playing the famous "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer" song during the film's ending.

Edited by Clare on Oct 26th 2022 at 2:31:04 PM

skan123 Since: Aug, 2018
#20859: Oct 26th 2022 at 7:19:38 AM

[up][up][up] probably, not propably. But it does seem good.

Edited by skan123 on Oct 26th 2022 at 7:22:18 AM

skan123 Since: Aug, 2018
#20860: Oct 26th 2022 at 7:20:56 AM

For Angrybirds 123456:

Some of the in-game versions of the themes may even be considered better than the OST versions.

Edited by skan123 on Oct 26th 2022 at 7:21:54 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#20861: Oct 26th 2022 at 7:29:34 AM

[up] @Melinda

...know about her activities...

...but she was buying time for her Watcher/boyfriend and dog to get away.

(although it is a pretty bulky cap).

The Fellowship Is Broken

^ This should be either Breaking the Fellowship or The Fellowship Has Ended.

Near the end of the book, [[spoiler:Rodrick's band breaks up and Bill gets a job with another band (although he comes back after they fire him) while the other two musicians accept that they are never going to be rock stars and enroll in college and go to work at the deli, respectively.

^ Wherever the spoilered text ends, you should add two square closing brackets (]]).

In the show, he is already guarding her at Dragonstone...

Once the Succession Crisis begins, Daemon threatens to kill him unless...

^ x2

He has the beginnings of a beard, <- comma but...visible in his facial hair.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#20862: Oct 26th 2022 at 7:33:37 AM

[up] @Tylerbear 12

...on top of being more like what they expect from a Hatsune Miku game.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#20863: Oct 26th 2022 at 7:35:08 AM

[up] @Nukeli

"Tales of the Beast Hunters", <- comma where they appear, <- comma takes place in a different...was probably during the...presumably because, <- comma for one reason or another, Shockwave...

Edited by Arivne on Oct 26th 2022 at 7:38:17 AM

Tylerbear12 What you see is what you get, just a guy. from The Green Hills. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
What you see is what you get, just a guy.
#20864: Oct 26th 2022 at 8:38:49 AM

[up][up] Thanks.

Reviewer2016 Since: Dec, 2021
#20865: Oct 26th 2022 at 1:13:56 PM

For the Little Demon character Laura I want to add the following Tropes.

  • The Stoner-There have been various scenes of Laura smoking pot. A Creative Closing Credits even had her rambling to herself while she was high.

  • Parental Hypocrisy- Despite her own faults of substance use, mostly pot and admitting getting high off of deer urine, Laura was shocked to see Chrissy vaping.

  • Nightmare Fetishist- Looking at the facts her baby daddy is The Devil, she had a confrontation with a serial killer that had a lot of Belligerent Sexual Tension, and her one night stand with The Sea Hag, who not only confirmed she ate people but caused Ragnorok, says Laura has an attraction to dangerous people.

Note the characters name currently is just The Sea Hag, and so far the only contributing factor to their world’s ragnorok.

Edited by Reviewer2016 on Oct 26th 2022 at 5:41:43 AM

skan123 Since: Aug, 2018
#20866: Oct 26th 2022 at 1:28:03 PM

  • There have been...
  • No errors
  • The Sea Hag , who not only confirmed she ate people but caused Ragnorok, says Laura has an attraction to dangerous people.

neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
Mr
#20867: Oct 26th 2022 at 2:54:52 PM

I have added information on Sonic The Comic in the robot me page but I think it is too long and the grammar needs improving.

This is what I wrote:

  • Sonic the Comic has many robot versions of Sonic and friends. The first was a Badnik designed to look like Sonic called the Sonic Badnik. The second robot Sonic seen is a damaged Silver Sonic on the Death Egg I (based on the Mecha Sonic from the Death Egg Zone). Grimer tried to use Amy to power a Super Badnik designed to look like her, after that failure, Grimer began work on Project Metallix which resulted in the first Metallix called Metallix the Metal Sonic serving as the villain of the Sonic CD story. A second Metallix would be based on Mecha Sonic Mk II and be the brother of the first Metallix. After that Project Metallix would be automated producing thousands of Metallix which went rogue, they made a Porker Metallix to pose as Sonic friend and tried to regone Robotnik. After they were defeated Grimer showed Robotnik his plans for a Knuckles Metallix (this is the first time a robot me of Knuckles would appear in any media), after Robotnik was overthrown he built the Knuckles Metallix.

"May your heart be your guiding key"
Angrybirds123456 Since: Jun, 2021
#20869: Oct 26th 2022 at 6:04:52 PM

Thanks @skan123
One for the Final Destination Awesome Page.

  • You gotta admit, the plan Death had in motion throughout Final Destinations 5, 1, and 2 was awesome.

Any corrections needed?

Shado960 Since: Jun, 2020
#20870: Oct 26th 2022 at 10:49:31 PM

[up]@Arivne

Alright so here are the corrected versions of the fire force additions to the heroic build page. Here’s hoping they’re grammatically correct enough to count.

And here are the corrected versions of my previous posts and i hope they count as grammatically correct.

Heroic build

In Fire Force

  • Captain Obi of Company 8 has trained immensely to catch up to his superpowered teammates despite having no pyrokinetic abilities. Not only does this make him incredibly ripped but, as a result of his daily intense regimen, he has become a powerhouse who possesses strength bordering on superhuman levels.

  • Maki Oze, thanks to her time in the military before joining company 8, is a very lean and muscular young woman. Thanks to her well muscled build and military training, she is considered to be the second strongest member in terms of close quarters combat.

Heroic Build justification

Fire Force

  • In order for recruits to be a part of the Fire Force companies, they must not only have sufficient pyrokinetic abilities, but also undergo rigorous training, as being in great physical condition is essential to be a member of one of the eight companies they are assigned to. However, Captain Obi of Company 8 takes this to a whole other level. Due to having no form of pyrokinesis, he has to train like hell every single day to compensate. This has made him not only incredibly jacked, but has also given him near superhuman strength.

  • Maki Oze is another member of Company 8 who developed an incredible physique from her military service in Tokyo’s armed forces. Due to her second generation powers not being the best in terms of offensive capabilities, she has to rely mostly on raw strength and her adept CQC skills when on active duty.

Edited by Shado960 on Oct 27th 2022 at 2:03:30 AM

Shado960 Since: Jun, 2020
#20871: Oct 26th 2022 at 11:16:41 PM

[up]@Arivne

Also is this grammatically correct for the plus sized elf page?

Plus Sized Elf

Shown Their Work: Elfuda's weight crisis shows what happens when a person who once had a low-calorie diet and came from a hard workload environment, is introduced into a more sedentary lifestyle with high-calorie foods. Resulting in that person getting out of shape from lack of activity alongside lack of willingness to work out anymore. This tends to happen to some former athletes and even retired soldiers who wind up overweight due to eating large amounts of food, without having a proper workout regimen to burn off the excess calories and keep them fit.

Is it grammatically correct?

Edited by Shado960 on Oct 27th 2022 at 2:03:54 AM

JMK031 Since: Sep, 2018 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#20872: Oct 26th 2022 at 11:18:17 PM

Genshin Impact - Other Characters - The Aranara entry

  • Chekhov's Gun: The Shriveled Seed which can be obtained deep within The Chasm turned out to be a hibernating Aranara.

not sure if this is the right trope for the context though

Edited by JMK031 on Oct 27th 2022 at 2:19:20 AM

skan123 Since: Aug, 2018
#20873: Oct 27th 2022 at 4:08:23 AM

@Angrybirds 123456

Swap out "You gotta admit" with "Admittedly". Also, re-arrange the Final Destination movies (1, 2 and 5).

Tylerbear12 What you see is what you get, just a guy. from The Green Hills. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
What you see is what you get, just a guy.
#20874: Oct 27th 2022 at 4:45:50 AM

I have an edit planned for YMMV.Ace Attorney and I want to make sure it is good.

Suspiciously Similar Song: Many fans have noted that the track, "Court Battle - Turnabout Big Top", from Panchislot Gyakuten Saiban (a Japanese-only pachislot game) sounds identical to "Riders of the Light" from Bayonetta.

Edited by Tylerbear12 on Oct 27th 2022 at 6:49:35 AM

sdewap (Experienced Trainee) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#20875: Oct 27th 2022 at 5:55:50 AM

For My Ideal Academia.

  • O.O.C. Is Serious Business: When Aizawa comes to the last meeting about Shirou's vigilante case, he sees Yu with a composed and determined expression. He notes how odd it is since the carefree Yu would just passively and lazily listen to the meeting and knows that Yu is up to something. His suspicion is proven further when Kenji relieves her from her duty of watching Shirou, only for her to stay silent when she would usually be happy and relaxed after being free from her task. Yu then reveals that she has adopted Shirou, surprising everyone in the room. After being alone with her, Aizawa asks her why she does this. Yu answers that she wants to save Shirou from getting thrown to the correctional center and tries to help Shirou before he dies due to his altruism with her motherly love.


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