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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM
From page 833 @Ymirsdaughter
I've seen it done both ways. I don't know of any official English rule that covers it.
Since it's originally a name (proper noun
), if I were to use it in that way, I would capitalize it.
For example: "Tom did a MacGyver to create a device to help him escape."
Edited by Arivne on Oct 23rd 2022 at 7:40:30 AM
For One True Love:
- The Addams Family: In almost every version Gomez and Morticia Addams are always presented to be madly in love with each other, with this being especially apparent in the 1964 series and 1991 film. The two never think of cheating on the other and constantly refer to the other as the love of their life. Even the slightest word from Morticia is enough to have Gomez all over her and Gomez even once says he would not only kill for Morticia but die for her as well. The two are also up for anything the other wants and even after having two kids are constantly affectionate with each other. For example in the 1991 film, just hearing that Morticia is in danger is enough to get Gomez out of his depression.
Any corrections?
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup threadThanks. Sorry for how long I let this one get. You don’t have to do it all in one sitting.
@ Pride and Prejudice and Zombies
- Lieutenant Tindall is in his twenties and is a brave yet rigid and untested officer who views Victorian chivalry as more important than effective fighting.
- Just Giving Orders: In the prequel, Lord Lumpley weakly tries to disclaim responsibility for the deaths of the many women he impregnated by saying that all he did was tell his butler to make sure they stopped bothering him. This argument fails to save his life.
- Mistaken Confession: In Dawn of the Dreadfuls, Mr. Bennett accuses Captain Cannon of deceiving him, and the officer makes a long speech about how he loves Mrs. Bennett and has been trying to woo her. A stunned Mr. Bennett makes several Let Me Get This Straight... comments and clarifies that he was talking about how Cannon had been deceiving him about how long the zombie infestation has been going on and whether they can expect reinforcements.
- Redshirt Army: In Dawn of the Dreadfuls, Captain Cannon's company is made up of young men who flee from their first several battles. Save for their surgeon and possibly a few men who were wounded earlier, they are wiped out in the last act (albeit during a Hold the Line Suicide Mission, and in a surprisingly fierce Do Not Go Gentle manner). Averted with Lord Paget's regiment in the climax of the same book, who are a Badass Army of cavalrymen, musketeers, and ninjas and also act as The Cavalry.
- Shout-Out: Dr. Keckilpenny's efforts to tame a zombie in the prequel borrow from Day of the Dead (1985).
- Balto: In a deleted scene, after Steele's crimes are exposed, he tries to attack Balto and is buried alive under a pile of coal during the struggle. In the final cut, he is merely exiled from Nome.
@ Buffyverse: Watchers and Slayers
Thessily Thessilonikki (ca. 490 BCE)
- Alliterative Name: Both of her names begin with T.
- Bring Help Back: She is sent to run hundreds of miles to Sparta to get help to defend Athens against Persia and makes the journey even after being wounded with a poisoned arrow, although the Spartans refuse to help.
- Screw Destiny: The Oracle of Delphi has a vision of her dying against a vampiric horde, but she survives the battle and continues to be the Slayer for another decade.
Dark of the Moon (ca. 1250)
- Failure Hero: Due to not understanding her status as a Slayer, she fails to defeat the vampires plaguing her tribe.
- Old Maid: Her tribe views her as past marriage age when she turns twenty-one and remains unattached.
Eliane de Shaundee (ca. 1320)
- Action Mom: She is married with two children by the time she is chosen as a Slayer. She thought she had been Refused by the Call and her life takes a downward spiral when she becomes the Slayer, but she is still a dedicated mother and fierce fighter.
- Teacher/Student Romance: She marries her Watcher, who is only three years older than her. His superiors take this poorly.
Virginia Dare/White Doe (ca. 1610)
- Forced Transformation: A spurned suitor who is Not Good with Rejection turns her into a deer.
- Historical Domain Character: She is a real life child from the lost colony of Roanoke.
- Scars Are Forever: She has a cross banded on her forehead.
Robin Whitby (1661)
- Hook Hand: At the end of her story, she loses a hand at the end of her story and replaces it with a prosthetic weapon.
- Sweet Polly Oliver: She poses as a man to be a ship captain.
- Turn the Other Cheek: She saves her crew from a vampire even after they mutiny against her, and they are suitably grateful and chagrined
- Young and in Charge: She is a young woman in her twenties and the captain of a ship.
Marie-Christine Du Lac (ca. 1789)
- Took a Level in Kindness: She starts out as just a superpowered enforcer for a Deadly Decadent Court, but gradually stars protecting innocent people from all walks of life.
- You Are What You Hate: She is disdainful of France's peasantry, but is a peasant by birth who was adopted by royals.
Xiaoquin (ca. 1856)
- Conveniently an Orphan: Her parents died when she was young, allowing her to be trained in martial arts at a monastery by a Parental Substitute.
- King of the Homeless: She takes in orphaned girls and helps them eke out an existence on the streets without selling their bodies.
- Sweet Polly Oliver: She impersonates a male dockworker to get around the restrictions women of her time suffer.
Pauline Francis Bernard (ca. 1862)
- Nom De Nom: While posing as a man she uses her mother’s surname, Massey.
- Rogue Agent: After the death of her Watcher, she keeps fighting vampires but deliberately avoids the Watchers’ Council and instead operates under her commanding officer in the Union Army.
- Southern Belle: She used to be a demure and well-groomed girl from the Southern United States of America before cutting her hair, assuming a male identity, and joining the Union Army during The American Civil War.
- Staking the Loved One; She has to kill her Watcher, who she views as the only person who understands her, after he becomes a vampire.
- Sweet Polly Oliver: She poses as a man to join the military.
Millicent Rose “Millie” Gresham:
- Interspecies Friendship: She fights dangerous monsters, but befriends benevolent demons and offers them jobs at her carnival.
- Lovely Assistant: She is the young female assistant in a carnival magic act between heroic missions.
Dorothy "Dot" Singers (ca. 1919)
- Cloudcuckoolander's Minder: Her Watcher is a Shell-Shocked Veteran whose condition she hides so he won't be replaced.
- Shoe Slap: She stakes a vampire with a high-heeled shoe.
- The World Is Just Awesome: She loves taking in the sights of Chicago to remind herself what she fights for.
Britta Kessler (ca. 1923)
- And Then John Was a Zombie: She is turned into a vampire while saving a room full of people from vampires.
- Dying Alone: Her greatest fear is be be killed or infected without anyone around to comfort her, something which does indeed happen.
- Head-Turning Beauty: Her watcher observes her make boys turn their heads to watch her walk.
Sophie Cartensen (ca. 1940)
- Ancestral Weapon: She fights vampires with a cavalry saber that has been in her family for generations.
- Big Damn Heroes: Whenever her Watcher or any of the potential Slayers are in danger, then if Sophie can do anything to try to rescue them, she will.
- Retcon: She falls in battle against Spike, but the show retroactively establishes Nikki and Xin Ring as the two slayers Spike killed.
Eleanor Bodreau (ca. 1940)
- Ascended Fangirl: She deeply admires Sophie and ends up succeeding her as the Slayer (technically there is another girl between them, but she has a case of We Hardly Knew Ye).
- The Bus Came Back: She debuts in a novel and later reappears in one of the Tales of the Slayer short stories.
- Took a Level in Badass: She goes from a nervous young girl to a skilled Slayer who serves in the role through most of World War II and survives the war despite facing greater dangers than some of her recent predecessors.
India Cohen (ca. 1995)
- The Bus Came Back: She debuts in a novel and later reappears in one of the Tales of the Slayer short stories.
- Military Brat: Before being chosen, she travels the world to live with her submarine commander father.
- Present Absence: She is never directly mentioned in the show itself, but it is clear that someone directly preceded Buffy as the Slayer and Buffy probably wouldn't have become the Slayer if India had lasted longer at the job and Buffy had reached adulthood in the meantime.
- Teacher/Student Romance: She and her watcher, a young man about her age, are lovers.
- The Ghost: He is only mentioned in a single episode of the show, although he appears in , two ambiguously canon novels and a flashback of the comic sequel.
- Parental Substitute: He resigned from the Watcher's Council to raise Robin after the death of the boy's mother.
- Reasonable Authority Figure: He tried to talk Nikki out of undergoing a dangerous training ceremony while she was pregnant and offered her a chance to quit being the Slayer and stay alive, telling her that she'd already done her duty by saving thousands of lives and couldn't stay lucky forever.
- What Happened to the Mouse?: His status in the present day is unknown.
Edited by Melinda on Oct 24th 2022 at 8:51:11 AM
For the Cuphead Awesome Music Page.
- Honeycomb Herald
is a gently fast-paced tune perfect for the "climbing" nature of the level. There's also a little hint of royalty worth mentioning, perfect for the queen bee herself.
@Melinda
...how long the zombie infestation has been going on for and...
She is sent to run hundreds of miles to Sparta to get help to defend Athens...
She had thought that she had been...
She marries her Watcher, who is...
^ On the Buffyverse: Watchers and Slayers page, "Watcher" is consistently capitalized.
At the end of her story, she loses a hand and replaces it with a prosthetic weapon.
...Deadly Decadent Court, <- comma but gradually comes to like protecting...
She is disdainful of France's peasantry, <- comma but is a peasant...
After the death of her Watcher, she...the Watchers' Council and...
She has to kill her sired Watcher, who...
^ "sired" is not correct English.
She poses as a man to join the military.
She fights dangerous monsters, <- comma but befriends...
She is the young female assistant in a carnival magic act for the normal parts of her life.
^ "for the normal parts of her life" is not correct English and is unclear.
Her Watcher is a Shell-Shocked Veteran...
Her Watcher observes her beauty make boys turn their heads to watch her walk.
Whenever her Watcher or any of the potential Slayers are in danger, then if...
^ On the Buffyverse: Watchers and Slayers page, "Slayer" is also consistently capitalized.
...most of World War II and survives...
Buffy probably wouldn't have become the Slayer if India...
...two ambiguously canon novels and a flashback of the comic sequel.
^ By putting two "ambiguously canon novels" first, you won't have to worry about the reader thinking that "flashback" refers to them too.
...and offered her a chance to quit being the Slayer and stay alive...
Edited by Arivne on Oct 24th 2022 at 8:15:49 AM
Thanks Arivne. On the Buffy wiki, Watcher is not capitalized but I’ll defer to the usage on this site.
- While the scene of Luke fretting over being the heir to Driftmark is mostly Played for Drama, it is kind of funny how he lampshades that he is expected to take over the biggest navy in the nation despite being prone to seasickness.
- Vaemond Velaryon gets some posthumous sympathy from his brother (who is saddened to hear about his death) and Lucerys (whose mini-arc causes him to wonder if he should have let Vaemond have Driftmark when he feels unsuited to rule the island). Despite Vaemond's abrasiveness, it takes some of the satisfaction out of his death two episodes earlier.
- Sophie Carstensen, Eleanor Boudreau, and India Cohen, previous Slayers featured in a couple of ambiguously canon novels and short stories, have decent fanbases despite their obscurity.
@ Buffyverse: Watchers and Slayers
- Refusal of the Call: In an effort to bargain for the release of her imprisoned husband, she initially refuses to do her duty as the Slayer even while her village is being slaughtered.
- Someone to Remember Him By: Gender Flipped, as her infant daughter survives after her death.
- You Killed My Father: A vampire targets and kills her parents because they are the parents of the Slayer, and she kills him in turn.
- Grand Theft Me: A sympathetic version occurs when India's spirit possesses Willow Rosenberg during a climactic struggle.
- Heroes Love Dogs: India has a pet dog, Mariposa, who she cares about deeply.
- Homegrown Hero: India spends some time operating in Japan, but is an American (on her father's side, anyway) character in a book by an American author.
Kishi Minomoto (980)
- Born in the Wrong Century: She is a brave daughter of a samurai clan, but is born in an era where girls are expected to be ladies in waiting. Even when she becomes a Slayer, she has to do it discreetly.
- Human Sacrifice: She is nearly sacrificed to a dragon, but slays it instead.
Esperanza De la Vega (ca. 1470)
- Enemy Mine: She forms an alliance with an imprisoned demon in an effort to escape from the Inquisition's cells.
- Hiding Your Heritage: She and her father are Jewish but hide this from The Inquisition.
- Torture Is Ineffective: When she is put on the rack by torturers, she refuses to confess to any real or imagined wrongdoings.
Ildikó Géllert (ca. 1609)
- Blood Knight: She enjoys fighting evil creatures as the Slayer.
- Cruel and Unusual Death: She dies by being pressed against sharp stakes in an iron maiden.
- Failed a Spot Check: She has more difficulty telling humans and vampires apart than most Slayers.
- The Infiltration: She infiltrates the home of Elizabeth Báthory while investigating whether the evil noblewoman is a vampire. After seeing signs of Elizabeth's depravity, Ildikó plans to kill Elizabeth regardless of her vampiric status.
- Tomboy: She has always hated bathing and stereotypically womanly chores. She takes a lot of training to convincingly pass as a maid.
Catherine Hogarth (ca. 1843)
- Culture Clash: She is a poor girl from the East End of London, while her Watcher is a haughty upper-class man. They don't get along at all and even wish for each other's death.
- Outnumbered Sibling: She is the only girl out of four kids.
Mollie Prater (ca. 1886)
- Did Not Get the Girl: She is engaged to be married, but her betrothed calls off the wedding after seeing her fight a demon.
- Little Miss Badass: She is a fifteen-year-old country girl when she gains Slayer powers.
- One-Steve Limit: Her Watcher has trouble finding her because several local girls share her name.
Asha Sayre (ca. 1956)
- Entertainingly Wrong: She believes that only girls of African descent can be Slayers, an assumption that many characters (including Buffy) prove wrong.
- Orphan's Ordeal: She grew up in the Louisiana bayou, being raised by her Watcher after her mother died when she was born and The Klan lynched her father.
- Taking You with Me: She blows up herself and a building full of racist vampires.
Catherine Callan (ca. 1876)
- Alliterative Name: Both of her names begin with C.
- Fake Relationship: She pretends to be in a relationship with her Watcher mainly to Troll the rest of the Watchers' Council, who have a lot of anti-Irish bigotry against her.
Angelique Hawthorne (ca. 1897)
- Shoo the Dog: She tries to maintain normal friendships after becoming the Slayer, but after one of her friends is turned into a vampire, she sends the others away for their own safety.
- You Killed My Father: Her first act as the Slayer is to kill the vampire who killed her whole family (except for her Disappeared Dad father) while she was out doing odd jobs to pay the rent.
Ardita O'Reilly (ca. 1922)
- The Ace: She seems completely confident, successful and popular, at least in terms of her normal life that regular people see.
- The Flapper: She seems to be the archetypal early 1920s casually-dressed and socially liberated dancer.
Zoë Kuryakin (ca. 1952)
- Beatnik: She is a casually-dressed 1950s Beat poet whose Bohemian lifestyle infuriates her stodgy Watcher so much that he plots to have her killed.
- The Dog Bites Back: Her Watcher sets her up to be turned into a vampire, and the only thing she does before committing Suicide by Sunlight is get revenge for her murder.
- Dying as Yourself: After being turned into a vampire, she commits Suicide by Sunlight right as the transformation sets in, dying right before her soul can vanish.
Beryl McKenzie (ca. 1969)
- Cynicism Catalyst: A friend of hers died in her arms after being fatally injured during an anti-war rally, and she has little faith in the human race as a result.
- Disappeared Dad: Her parents gave her to the Watchers' Council to raise when she was five.
- Refusal of the Call: She is a pacifist and initially refuses to assume the duties of the Slayer, instead trying to find a way to magically separate herself from the powers of the Slayer.
Peri Bohr (ca. 1986)
- Hero Antagonist: She is a heroic Slayer, but the short story she appears in is from the point-of-view of a friend of hers who was turned into a vampire and is fighting her.
- Wake Up, Go to School, Save the World: She seems like an average teenaged mallrat who does a good job of hiding her job from people, not unlike Buffy herself.
Edited by Melinda on Oct 25th 2022 at 4:07:51 AM
- Holy Burns Evil: Gremmy summons an army of holy knights with his Schrift in an attempt to counteract Barragan's powers on account of his Resurrecion's lich-like appearance. Unfortunately for Gremmy, Barragan's powers involve the concept of space-time itself rather than plain old necrotic decay, which lead to his summoned knights biting the dust shortly after despite their "holy" nature.
Edited by bf2234 on Oct 24th 2022 at 12:27:55 PM
This is an edit I want to include in Invincible (2021):
- Base-Breaking Character: In Episode 7, it's revealed that Amber knew Mark was Invincible for weeks and still got angry with him for not trusting her with his secret.This irritated a lot of fans, who felt as though Amber was being self-centered and inconsiderate of what Mark was going through as a superhero. Some fans, on the other hand, agree with Amber that Mark was a terrible boyfriend for not telling her the truth about his superhero identity and putting her in danger.
Edit: Included feedback from @Arvine.
Edited by PS16 on Oct 25th 2022 at 12:20:36 PM
Naïve Newcomer is an apprentice in English.Another one for the Cuphead Awesome Music page.
- The Airship
, it's a real shame it was for a scrapped level,note because it's an amazing theme. It sure gives the airship themes in the Super Mario games
and Henry Stickmin
a run for their money.
Any corrections necessary?
The Fantastic Adventures of Unico
- Awesome Music: The 2022 Italian dub of the movie has a new theme song performed by Santo Verduci called "Le fantastiche avventure di Unico" which perfectly captures the film and original manga's cute, hopeful, and optimistic tone with some ominous moments in the mix. An extended version of the theme song is heard on the 6th album of Contactoons which was released to digital platforms on October 26, 2022.
Unico in the Island of Magic
- Awesome Music: The 2022 Italian dub contains a new theme song performed by Santo Verduci (who voiced a blue cat in the dub) called "Unico nell'isola della magi". The theme song carries a darker and ominous tone which reflects this movie's darker story line between Unico and Kuruku. An extended version of the song was released on the 6th album of Contactoons to digital platforms on October 26, 2022.
Kabouter Plop
- Periphery Demographic: In recent years, the franchise has gained a larger following with stoners in Belgium and The Netherlands. Plop actually appeared at "Kamping Kitsch Club" note to perform the show's songs to adult audiences on August 21, 2022.
Edited by brb1006 on Oct 24th 2022 at 12:59:22 PM
For add fridge page of BoBoiBoy
- BoBoiBoy's Chronic Hero Syndrome side is not come from his arrogance of having much power compare to his comrade. It was caused by the influence of Amato give too much independence of his own son. Sure it's good to see a parents give a trust for their children to be more independence to find their our interest. But Amato give "too much" independence to his own son to the point he choose to not helping him defeat the villain who more competence than him without knowing how many time BoBoiBoy constantly almost lose his own life during a fight or mission because his mindset to not always depended on his own friend.
- Bo Boi Boy's Chronic Hero Syndrome side doesn't come from his arrogance of having much power compare to his comrades. It was caused by Amato's influence, which gave too much independence of his own son. Sure, it's good to see parents give trust for their children to be more independent to find their own interest, but Amato gave (too much) independence to his own son to the point he chose not to help him defeat the villain who is more competent than him without knowing how many times Bo Boi Boy constantly almost lost his own life during a fight or mission because his mindset was to not always depend on his own friend.
Edited by skan123 on Oct 25th 2022 at 6:42:33 AM
I wrote this a bit a go for Viren's character page and I'd like to know if it could written better.
- Detrimental Determination: Viren is so fixated on his goal of nullifying Xadia and the Dragon Prince as potential threats that he crosses increasingly dark moral lines to do so, justifying them as being pragmatic while ignoring other alternatives, as well as accept help from suspicious figures like Aaravos when he faces opposition. It ultimately leads to him marching into Xadia with barley anything resembling a plan and becoming all the more dependent on Aaravos for guidance, who directs him to assault the Storm Spire to drain Zym, which results in his two year long death.
Edited by Avenger09 on Oct 25th 2022 at 6:56:11 PM
Interrogation: You Will Be Deceived
- Benevolent Boss: The "Best Boss" achievement involves maxing out your agents' approval rating.
- Bad Boss: The "Bad Boss" achievement is the opposite of the "Best Boss" achievement by having 0% Approval Rating with your agents.
Edited by kawaiineko333 on Oct 25th 2022 at 11:52:07 AM
@Melinda
In an effort to bargain for the release of her imprisoned husband, she refuses to do her duty as the Slayer even while her village is being slaughtered.
^ Because this sentence was out of order, you said that her village was being slaughtered in an effort to bargain for the release of her imprisoned husband.
India spends some time operating in Japan, <- comma but...
She is a brave daughter of a samurai clan, <- comma but...
She is nearly sacrificed to a dragon, <- comma but slays it instead.
...in an effort to escape from the Inquisition's cells.
^ Since her last name is Vega, I assume you mean the Spanish Inquisition?
When she is put on the rack by torturers, she refuses to confess to any real or imagined wrongdoings.
After seeing signs of Elizabeth's depravity, Ildikó plans...status. v
She is a poor girl from the East End of London, <- comma while...
...an assumption that incurable characters (including Buffy) prove wrong.
^ "incurable" is not correct English. Did you mean "multiple"?
...and the The Klan lynched her father.
...she sends the others away for their own safety.
...while she was selling out doing odd jobs to pay the rent.
^ "selling out" is not correct English. Did you mean "out selling and doing other odd jobs"?
She is a casually-dressed 1950s Beat poet whose Bohemian lifestyle...
@bf2234
Gremmy...counteract Barragan's powers based on Barragan's Resurrecion's...
^ When you mention more than one character with the same gender, you need to be careful when using gendered pronouns in place of their names so the reader doesn't get confused over who you're referring to.
^ The "his" could have referred to Barragan or Gremmy.
In Episode 7, it's revealed that Amber knew Mark was Invincible for weeks...
^ Re-wrote the first part of the sentence to eliminate Word Cruft - This Example Is an Example.
^ As a general rule, you don't have to say "this is an example of" for a straight example. You only need it for non-straight examples, such as Playing with a Trope.
Edited by Arivne on Oct 25th 2022 at 10:28:09 AM
...his arrogance over having so much power compared to...independence to his own son...find their own interests. But Amato gave too much independence to his own son, <- comma to the point...

From page 833 @N Kgamer
In universe example. <- period As shown...dwarves, <- comma while...say, <- comma they...
Edited by Arivne on Oct 23rd 2022 at 7:13:29 AM