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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM
From page 812 @faunas
Hey, I came here a while ago and I have already (it seems) solved my grammar problem. May I be unlocked?
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Edited by Arivne on Sep 18th 2022 at 10:01:40 AM
Freya:
An Axe To Grind: Valkyrie Descent has her combine her sword and shield to form an axe for the ability dueration.
Morph Weapon: Using her ultimate, Valkyrie Descent, has her combine her sword and shield into a poleaxe.
Shield Bash: One of her autoattacks bashes her enemy with her shield.
Vexana
Shes Got Legs: Similar to Guinevere, Vexana redesign gives her a Showgirl Skirt that frames her bare legs.
Showgirl Skirt: Her redesign gave her a dress that reaches to the floor on the back and side. But on the front it only reaches her mid-thighs.
Leomord:
Injured Vulnerability: His passive, The Oath Keeper, causes all of his attacks to become a Critical Hit if this target is below 35% HP.
From page 812 @Bullman
The 2022 TV adaptation of Darna has a large group of fans shipping the lead actresses Jane De Leon (who plays Narda/Darna) and Janella Salvador (who plays Regina Valentina). This is mainly due to the fact that they play characters who are shipped by a lot of fans...
^ As I pointed out in my original response, the problem with this is that "has a large group of fans shipping the lead actresses" and "they play characters who are shipped by a lot of fans" are basically saying the same thing - that they're being shipped by lots of fans because they're being shipped by lots of fans.
The text "they play characters who are shipped by a lot of fans" should be replaced by what makes them such a popular ship.
How about I just remove that part. Something like this:
- The 2022 TV adaptation of Darna has a large group of fans shipping the lead actresses Jane De Leon (who plays Narda/Darna) and Janella Salvador (who plays Regina Valentina). This is mainly due to the fact that they play characters who are shipped by a lot of fans, along with their their their on-screen chemistry and real life friendship. This isn't helped by their chumminess in interviews and behind-the-scenes stuff. They even have their own Portmanteau Couple Name, "JaneNella".
Edited by Bullman on Sep 18th 2022 at 12:34:23 PM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
@ssbob90
...for the ability duration.
Similar to Guinevere, the Vexana redesign...
Her redesign gives her...and sides, <- comma but on...
That was a single sentence that was incorrectly split into two sentences.
...causes all of his attacks to become Critical Hits if the''' target is below 35% HP.
@Bullman:
Let's try again.
Aside from their "on-screen chemistry and real life friendship", what makes them such a popular ship?
If that's the only thing that makes them popular, then just delete "the fact that they play characters who are shipped by a lot of fans, along with".
If there is something else, put it in place of that phrase.
That will take care of the problem.
Also, you have two "their"s immediately following it. Please delete one of them.
I meant to remove that part about their characters, but I must have accidentally forgot to remove it in when I put it in the post. I meant this.
- The 2022 TV adaptation of Darna has a large group of fans shipping the lead actresses Jane De Leon (who plays Narda/Darna) and Janella Salvador (who plays Regina Valentina). This is mainly due to their on-screen chemistry and real life friendship. This isn't helped by their chumminess in interviews and behind-the-scenes stuff. They even have their own Portmanteau Couple Name, "JaneNella".
Thanks for your help and patience Arivne.
Edited by Bullman on Sep 18th 2022 at 12:52:34 PM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup threadI am sorry, I will try again.
Nightmare Fuel / Saya no Uta
- Seriously, who wants to live with the distorted and grotesque senses that Fuminori got after the accident? The very first shot we get is of the fleshy lumps that used to be his friends, talking with jumbled text and loud, distorted speech to boot. It is NOT pretty.
- Saya, just Saya. If Fuminori is seeing the real world as an Eldritch Location with the people there as disgusting lumps of flesh and organs or even Eldritch Abominations and Saya as a normal, cute-looking girl, what does Saya look like in the real world? It is not completely known what Saya really looks like (and it would be better off not knowing to begin with), but she looks so horrifying that those who see her would Go Mad from the Revelation.
- Oumi's fate. After she becomes fed up with Fuminori's odd behavior after coldly dismissing Yoh's confession, Oumi goes to his house to confront him, unaware that he isn't at home. Thinking Fuminori is ignoring her, Oumi barges into his house and is met with a distorted voice (which happens to be Saya's) and an unpleasant smell. While exploring the house, Oumi gets caught by Saya and sees her, losing her sanity before promptly becoming food for Saya.
- After Fuminori returns home, he finds the living room entirely green and Saya feasting on a jelly-like substance, which happens to be Oumi. Fuminori then eats the globs and finds them to be delicious, unknowingly tasting human flesh.
Funny / Mo Bros Studios
- Doofenshmirtz Eats a Kitten
:
- Gwonam crashing into Phineas and Ferb's rollercoaster.
- The usage of "Jump! Jump! Jump!" from Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix.
- "Trash cans!"
- Candace getting chased by termites and then attacked by a giant scorpion.
- The high-pitched phone conversation between Candace and Stacy ending with them screaming and Rolf suddenly bursting into an operatic song.
- This scene from "Out of Toon":
Baljeet: I will become Hanuman Man, a flying blue monkey that can grow his penis as massive as he desires, to give the hottest dickings ever!
(Stunned Silence)
Phineas: Cool story, bro. - This scene from "One Good Scare Oughta Do It":
Candace: These little creeps have destroyed our backyard, leaving this ugly mess in its place! (gestures to what is actually Baljeet)
Linda: You are a racist whore, Candace. - And this scene from "Lights, Candace, Action!":
Candace: What are you doing here?
Phineas: We're directing a porno.
Candace: What?!
Phineas: We're gonna need a blowtorch, some peanut butter, a glass of limeade, and a giant platypus butt.
Candace: (Beat) That's so wrong, in so many ways... (spazzes out) - Phineas getting turned into a bagel by Mitch's security robots.
Edited by LenoreLynchfast on Sep 19th 2022 at 9:57:15 AM
Something I think should be added to Meat-O-Vision from Madagascar.
- Marty: Come on do I look like a stake to you?
- Alex: YAAAA!
- Marty: See guys... what do you mean yaa?
- Alex: Ohh Yaaa!
Edited by Shyhero on Sep 18th 2022 at 5:36:35 AM
My edit for the Nightmare Fuel page of Helluva Boss on August 27th.
Really, the entirety of the Deerie scene has horrifying ramifications for, not so much this show, BUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE HAZBIN HOTEL UNIVERSE. As Charlie's mission is to get damned souls redeemed so they can enter heaven so the yearly purges wouldn't be neccessary, but if Deerie's actions are to be believed, then Heaven wouldn't let ANY damned soul in, EVEN IF THEY'RE GENUINELY REFORMED, making Charlies entire quest pointless.
Hi fellas. It's me again. Let's have another try.
Team tropes for Total Drama:
- The Team Benefactor: All of the Bass contribute for the challenges, but Harold stands out for being the most useful Bass, often having a hand in each of their victories and usually not having any involvement whenever they lost a challenge. It means something that their first two victories, consecutively for fact, were thanks to their local Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass.
- Ungrateful Bastard: Despite Harold being their best player and essentially carrying the team on, most of the Killer Bass treat him with little to no respect or even pick on him for their own amusement (namely Duncan and Geoff). Even when he didn't cause their loss, Harold was often in the bottom two.
A tear jerker for Total Drama:
- While easily overlooked, Harold is treated with little to no sympathy, mainly by none other than his own team in spite of being its best player: he is often pranked and picked on by Duncan (even though he never did anything wrong to him upon first meeting), criticized by Courtney for his unintentional mishaps, told to be useless (to the point he was only allowed to showcase his beatbox in the talent show due to there not being any more available options) and his teammates even mention that if someone of the Killer Bass dies waking Duncan up so he can assist them, he is the only teammate they can afford to lose. Not to mention the cruel pranks he is subjected over just refusing to admit something understandably embarassing coupled with the fact. More sad is the fact that no one, not even the campers he befriends, seems willing to stand up for him and often sees himself in danger of being eliminated despite him not screwing up the challenge.
Three Headscratchers and Fridge Horror for Hocus Pocus:
- When Max and Dani go for trick-or-treating and they come across Ice, Jay and their gang, forcing Max to relinquish his candy to avoid Ice taking Dani's, why didn't they resort to a better way to avoid them, like leaving through the back of the house or notifying the owners so they would shoo the vandals away? Besides, why does Max get so angry at Dani for "humiliating" him in front of the whole school? Ice and Jay don't go there, and assuming their gangmembers do attend the same school, they aren't all of the school's students.
- When Thackery Binx is ran over by the bus the Sanderson Sisters took, why do Max, Dani and Allison get so sad for his "death" (which is undone seconds later due to his immortality curse) if Binks had explicitly told them that he couldn't die before. Do these three kids have a very bad memory?
- Assuming that the Sandersons had actually died in the school's oven and Thackery stayed with the Dennisons as their pet, how did Max and Dani plan to explain their parents about their strange pet cat? Yeah, maybe Binks could be told to not talk in front of Mr. and Mrs. Dennison, but they would have surely noticed something weird over the years upon witnessing Thackery never aging...
- While the film ends in a Earn Your Happy Ending-type of note as the bond between Max and Dani is stronger than ever, Allison is now Max's girlfriend, all of Salem's kids have been saved, Thackery finally dies and gets to leave for the afterlife and the Sandersons are gone forever (well, at least, until the sequel comes out), how are Max and Dani planning to do when their parents come back home and find out part of the house blown up?
Edited by ElJuaco on Sep 19th 2022 at 12:18:48 PM
- There's No Kill like Overkill: In "this strip
," Aloy blows up a duck by accident because she used the wrong arrow.
Aloy: Wrong quiver...
Edited by kawaiineko333 on Sep 19th 2022 at 6:10:40 AM
...he finds the living room entirely green than before and Saya feasting...
^ You added the words "than before" even though they weren't in my correction.
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^ The first sentence was a run-on sentence
connected together by a colon.
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Edited by Arivne on Sep 20th 2022 at 7:07:45 AM
So, I'm having a ton of issues trying to express the nature of certain tropes, and I've been regularly getting notifications about it. Primarily with the pages regarding RWBY: Ice Queendom (which were part of the reason for my last edit suspension, albeit for different reasons). I've removed some of my edits to those pages (since they were either zero context or in the case of the Special Effect Failure entry, somehow edited to be more of a word salad by another user after getting notified and thought it best to just remove it entirely). But other instances still bug me, as I keep repeating certain words that wind up as little more than Word Cruft. Plus I have some issues regarding punctuation and where to put commas (or how many I should include in a sentence) or complete a sentence entirely. This means I'm doing run-on sentences or having to constantly go back to editing examples because 20 minutes sometimes isn't enough time to go through and proofread everything before the edit lock expires. It gets grating to me when I'm working on longer edits or trying to find something to try and confirm my suspicions before finalizing the edits, yet still end up running the clock.
Just so I'm not edit-banned again for completely different reasons than before, can anyone help me with some general tips regarding certain aspects of grammar so I can avoid things like that?
Edited by philipnova798 on Sep 19th 2022 at 6:21:46 AM
Let’s see if I can get this post perfectly.
@ Recess
- When Randall rats out TJ for doing a silly impression of King Bob, Bob doesn't mind in the least and even says he expects that of TJ.
- It can feel oddly nice when Randall is a Graceful Loser for once and comments that blackmailing his way into being prince was good while it lasted.
My Funny Valentines
- When the Ashleys start to get into a fight over how TJ gave each of them a valentine, Ashley A successfully pleads for her friends not to fight each other for the sake of a guy who is seemingly stringing all of them along. While it isn't heartwarming watching them rally a mob against TJ, it is nice seeing their bonds of friendship keep them from fighting.
- When Dola attacks the airship to get the crystal, several crew members bravely fight back with a hastily-assembled Gatling gun and some clubs. The way the pirates bowl them over in a No Sale way is also pretty cool.
- A Badass Bystander train engineer helps Pazu and Sheeta flee from the pirates. Then, during the Cavalry Betrayal immediately afterward, he pulls a lever to blast a bunch of steam at the soldiers pursuing the heroes.
@ Batman: The Dark Knight Returns
- Age Lift: In Batman: Year One, Stan Merkel is a seasoned GCPD detective (presumably in his thirties or forties) when a twenty-something Bruce Wayne begins his career as Batman. Here, Merkel is in his twenties or thirties during a period where Batman is in his fifties.
Edited by Melinda on Sep 20th 2022 at 6:33:57 AM
@philipnova798
I can't give general tips on English because I don't know specifically what your problems are.
As far as running out of time while editing goes, you might try writing your examples in a text file, then adding them to TV Tropes when they're complete.
The best way to get help here is to post examples you would like to add to TV Tropes. I or someone else can correct them. You can use the corrections to learn better English.
You can also ask specific questions like "Where would the comma go in this sentence?" or something like that.
Edited by Arivne on Sep 20th 2022 at 7:27:19 AM

From page 812 @Lenore Lynchfast
Seriously, who wants to live with the distorted and grotesque senses...
After she becomes fed...he isn't at...and is met...smell. While exploring...sees how she looks, losing...
...entirely
puregreen and Saya feasting on a jelly-like...^ "entirely" and "pure" are basically synonyms here, so only one is needed.
^ This second example violates Example Indentation in Trope Lists because it's only one example at the 2nd level of indentation (2 asterisks).
Edited by Arivne on Sep 18th 2022 at 9:50:33 AM