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Write down what you wish to edit on the wiki. If you have been suspended from editing, another troper might be kind enough to edit for you after your suggestions have been corrected.

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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#20276: Sep 17th 2022 at 2:14:46 AM

Correct. If you have an example for a trope, post it here and others on the thread will look over it and give feedback.

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Clare Since: Aug, 2009
#20277: Sep 17th 2022 at 4:11:41 AM

@ AsrulGuza Page 811

BoBoiBoy

  • Everything about the Elemental Forms during the cooking competition against Qually: (remove space before colon)

    • Knowing that Thorn can be chaotic in his own way and not wanting him to ruin the cooking competition, Quake orders Thorn to create some beverages instead of helping the other Elemental Forms with the cooking. Quake is relieved after seeing Thorn happily accept his "order".

    • Thunderstorm tries hard to be as stoic as possible especially when he faces accusations from Championlang for stealing their golden chili while keeping himself focused on cutting up the ingredients.

    • Ice almost ruins the Tom Yum by putting the whole of the Salt Stone on the frying pan. When Quake takes the Salt Stone and scolds him, Ice only responds (superfluous word - cut) with his stoic Never My Fault expression.

    • Quake's role as the Team Mom of the Elemental Forms during the cooking competition is quite amusing, (comma) especially when Quake is scolding Blaze for ruining their dish and hitting his head with his rock gauntlet.

AsrulGuza A QUINCY Since: Jul, 2022 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
jOSEFdelaville Since: Dec, 2018
#20279: Sep 17th 2022 at 7:34:09 AM

Dicey Dungeon

  • Shout-Out: In the French translation, the Rotten Apple enemy is called "Pom' pas pote" (Roughly meaning "No pal apple"), which is a reference to the French apple compote brand called "Pom' Potes".

Epic Pixel Battle

  • Evil vs. Evil: "Team Rocket VS The Daltons" is a battle between two groups of criminals.

Madness Combat

  • Straight Man and Wise Guy: Sanford and Deimos have a a bit of a "serious guy and comedic guy" dynamic. This is mostly notable in a scene where Deimos makes a prank at Sanford and Sanford gives him a Dope Slap while sporting an annoyed expression.

Le Chat

  • "Meet the Celebrity" Contest: One strip is about The Cat and his wife being invited by a family of fans who won a "Dinner with The Cat" contest.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#20280: Sep 17th 2022 at 7:53:45 AM

From page 811 @March To 49

South Park was banned due to a scene where the Buddha...

...in a Dark...video (such as "Coronavirus...American Dream") <- no comma is...the viewers after...Bart", <- comma where...up being] a Karma...end of that video. In short order: Mr....away with raping...

Since the show didn't receive...the first official appearance in China of the characters from the series was...

...Smurfette announce that...Smurfs laugh as if they think it is a joke. Polaris responds that he assumes that...this, <- comma while the two look at the other Smurfs in distaste. However, the other Smurfs stop laughing when Empath calls out...

Polaris already knew that...approve of as natural. <- period other than Parental Incest

...between the two, but...it as a secret <- no comma as Papa Smurf would force him to do what he said, which Polaris secretly refused but still does it for him anyways. This results in Polaris also getting exiled from the village along with Papa Smurf, Smurfette and their daughter. He finally admits that...Smurf have allowed...daringly saying that...

...such as "Coronavirus...Dream", it's satisfying for the viewers who watched "Mr....

Bart takes control, <- comma and becomes the man of the house and beats Homer because he has had enough of Homer being a lousy dad...When Homer purposely leaves Bart in the street forest...and turn it into a wall trophy.

^ What is a "street forest"?

  • "Everybody Dies" Ending
    • In the comic strip "Grade School Massacre", which the...Bart is stopped...
    • ...two astronauts on a spaceship while in space in...back on Earth and explodes.

^ These are Not an Example because in order to be an example, the entire main cast has to die. If they died and you didn't say so, they're Zero Context Examples.

"Deep Space Homergeddon" could've been better written as...

Edited by Arivne on Sep 17th 2022 at 7:55:56 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#20281: Sep 17th 2022 at 7:58:12 AM

From page 811 @N2002

...can take a humanoid form. In this form, he's Tall, Dark, and Handsome.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#20282: Sep 17th 2022 at 8:17:02 AM

From page 811 @Melinda

Red Claw's Lieutenant

A prominent yet unnamed member of the Red Claw's terrorist group who recurs throughout her two-part debut.

^ Who does the "her" refer to, the Red Claw or their Lieutenant? As written, it could be either of them.

Badass Driver: He...

^ So the Lieutenant is male? Then add the words "He is" before the word "A" above and de-capitalize the "A".

...and undertakes several important jobs for the Red Claw.

...hijack a truckload of weapons, he scrambles out...escapes down a manhole cover (leaving...

^ You can't escape down a manhole cover because it's a solid piece of metal.

...a crowd of students lifts her up...

...uttering a sarcastic and unfazed "like, eek."

The Ashleys' playground...system with that traps intruders...

...junior novel, the Fratellis...with them.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#20283: Sep 17th 2022 at 8:30:27 AM

[up] @jOSEFdelaville

...(roughly meaning...brand called "Pom' Potes".

This is most notable in a scene where Deimos pulls a prank on Sanford...

One strip is about The Cat and his wife being invited by a family of fans who won a "Dinner with The Cat" contest.

^ Being invited to do what? It can't be having dinner with them, because the family already won that in the contest.

Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#20284: Sep 17th 2022 at 9:06:40 AM

Thanks. Red Claw is the name the character uses and but the Red Claw though.

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#20285: Sep 17th 2022 at 9:10:47 AM

For ActorShipping.Live Action TV:

  • The 2022 TV adaptation of Darna has had a large group of fans shipping the lead actresses Jane De Leon (who plays Narda/Darna) and Janella Salvador (who plays Regina Valentina). This is mainly due to the fact that they play the most popular ship in the fandom, along with their on-screen chemistry and real life friendship. This isn't helped by their chumminess in interviews and behind the scenes stuff. They even have their own Portmanteau Couple Name, "JaneNella".

Any corrections?

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
Nukeli Since: Aug, 2018
#20286: Sep 17th 2022 at 9:37:31 AM

@ Alfred J. Kwak

  • Bad Guys Play Pool: Teenaged Dolf is seen playing pool with his henchmen Hannes and Wannes. He's also shown playing pool once as an adult, still with them, while plotting a fascist coup. Dolf seems to then upgrade to roulette.
  • Engineered Heroics: When his presidential campaign goes badly, Dolf hires thugs to breach a dyke, causing a flood that kills at least 27 people, so he can gain popularity by fixing it out of his own pocket.
  • The Gambling Addict: As an adult Dolf gets hooked on roulette, and becomes heavily indebted to a casino in Morena.
  • Guilt-Ridden Accomplice: In the elections two-parter, Dolf returns to Waterland to run for president and hires thugs to breach a dike so he can boost his popularity by fixing it, resulting in a flood that kills at least 27 people and almost reaches Polderstadt. Dolf's old friend/minion Wannes, who's working in his campaign and was involved in the act, becomes increasingly afraid and horrified. It drives him to drink and he eventually goes to tell Alfred, who takes him to the police.
  • Trapped by Gambling Debts: Dolf becomes indebted to a Morena casino, and when he returned in episode 50, he would've been killed by the owner's minion if he hadn't come with gold. However he loses the gold before he can pay, and when Dolf declines K. Rokodil's dirty work offer in the next episode, Rokodil's business partner Hippo brings up the debt. Dolf agrees to do the job for the money to pay the debts off, ultimately resulting in Dolf, Hippo, and Rokodil all being arrested.

Edited by Nukeli on Sep 17th 2022 at 9:31:14 PM

~*bleh*~
MarchTo49 Since: Aug, 2022
#20287: Sep 17th 2022 at 9:49:39 AM

@ Arvine

Don't you google "forest street?" It's basically a street road surrounded by forests. I googled it myself when trying to describe the scene where Homer leaves Bart there in my recent post here, I saw photos of street road surrounded by forests, so I write that.

Dark Simpsons

  • "Everyone Dies" Ending: Everyone in the Springfield dies when the meteor hits the Earth in "Deep Space Homergeddon". Earlier on, Homer killed two astronauts while on a spaceship in an attempt to stop a meteor, but the spaceship instead hits the building back on Earth and explodes.

The Smurfs

  • How Baby Smurf barely survives an bombing of Smurf Village in the UNICEF Smurfs PSA? Smurfette just running while hugging Baby Smurf before the bomb killed her and a few Smurfs.

Edited by MarchTo49 on Sep 18th 2022 at 6:55:26 PM

JMK031 Since: Sep, 2018 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#20288: Sep 17th 2022 at 12:37:45 PM

Currently under suspension and they send me here. How should I start? I want to be able to edit again.

Nukeli Since: Aug, 2018
#20289: Sep 17th 2022 at 2:03:21 PM

@ X-Men

The X-gene is dominant or recessive

Explaining why humans seem to have mutant kids all the time, but mutant couples seem incapable of producing a non-mutant child. It being dominant would make the "mutants will eventually outbreed humans" claim to make more sense.

Mutants and humans are not actually separate species

If examined with real science, mutants would not qualify as a separate species or even a Human Subspecies because they're too similiar to homo sapiens, the ones who aren't are not similiar enough to each other, they can interbreed with humans, their offspring with humans aren't sterile, and most damningly, humans can randomly birth mutants. It's like with German Shepherds and White Shepherds, which are basically the same thing but decided to be separate.

Presumably, somebody in the setting is aware of this, but mutants and humans keep claiming to be separate species' for different reasons.

~*bleh*~
Angrybirds123456 Since: Jun, 2021
#20290: Sep 17th 2022 at 7:08:12 PM

My edit for the Final Destination WMG page on September 4th.

The deaths were in the hands of the Immediate Murder Professionals
The survivors of the disasters happened to be on the I.M.P.'s hitlist. They initially tried by causing a disaster based on where they happened to be, not caring who else gets killed as long as the targets get killed. But since the survivors survived, they decided to take them out one by one instead. Who's giving the premonitions? Either Alastor the Radio Demon or Charlie. Alastor because it's simply fun to him, Charlie because she's a nice girl and/or wants to slow down the influx of human sinners. Both have the power to do something like that, since Alastor is so powerful to topple century-old hell regimes, and Charlie is, you know, the princess of Hell.

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#20291: Sep 17th 2022 at 7:37:46 PM

For Do Revenge:

  • Draco in Leather Pants: Eleanor is not only part of Drea's revenge plot, but also plotting an elaborate revenge plot which involves not only sending a mostly innocent woman to rehab but hitting Drea with her car. However, due to her Freudian Excuse, good looks, and Maya Hawke's compelling performance, a lot fangirls on Tumblr and Twitter have little problem excusing her actions and saying she did nothing wrong. It helps that she aids Drea in getting her revenge.

Any corrections?

Edited by Bullman on Sep 17th 2022 at 11:41:37 AM

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
LenoreLynchfast Since: Nov, 2021 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#20292: Sep 17th 2022 at 10:19:35 PM

I am back. Hopefully I will do the right thing and return to editing TV Tropes.

Nightmare Fuel / Saya no Uta

Edited by LenoreLynchfast on Sep 18th 2022 at 11:01:56 AM

faunas Since: Jan, 2013
#20293: Sep 18th 2022 at 4:39:14 AM

Hey, I've come here a while ago and I already (it seems) solved my grammar problem. May I be unlocked?

Nukeli Since: Aug, 2018
#20294: Sep 18th 2022 at 6:42:00 AM

@ Thinly-Veiled Dub Country Change

  • Disney Ducks Comic Universe: With the exception of Duckburg and neighboring cities, old Finnish Donald Duck books (Aku Ankan Taskukirja) had a habit of changing place names to the names of real Finnish places, often quite random and question-raising. For example lake's name was "translated" as a Finnish lake's name, and a luxury resort Huey, Dewey, and Louie said they'd go at the end of one story where they got a lot of money, was "translated" to Kuopio. Later publications either use the real names for real places, or do wordplay like translate Acapulco to Ankkapulco ("Ankka" being the finnish word for "duck").

~*bleh*~
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#20295: Sep 18th 2022 at 8:57:01 AM

[up] @Bullman

The 2022 TV adaptation of Darna has had a...they play the most popular ship in the fandom...and behind-the-scenes stuff.

^ The phrase "has had" requires a mention of time, such as "The 2022 TV adaptation of Darna has had <a ship> since episode 4" or something like that.

^ How can they "play" a ship? You can't mean "are a ship", because you already said that in the first sentence.

^ When used as an adjective (as you do here), "behind-the-scenes" used hyphens.

...also carrying out an elaborate revenge plot...lot of fangirls...

^ "plotting an elaborate revenge plot" violates an unwritten English rule that you shouldn't use the same words (nouns, verbs, adjectives etc.) too often.

Edited by Arivne on Sep 18th 2022 at 9:00:39 AM

bf2234 Since: Feb, 2021
#20296: Sep 18th 2022 at 8:59:58 AM

Heroes of the New World

  • Everyone Has Standards:
    • According to Zaru, they once wrote a bad end for the story that was so terrible that they immediately disowned it after they saw the backlash it received from the readers.note 

    Spytand Malice 

Edited by bf2234 on Sep 18th 2022 at 9:11:15 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#20297: Sep 18th 2022 at 9:23:05 AM

[up] @Nukeli

Dolf seems to then upgrade to roulette.

^ This doesn't have anything to do with the trope. See How to Write an Example - Avoid Detail Bloat.

As an adult, <- comma Dolf gets hooked on roulette <- no comma and...

...indebted to a Morena casino, and when he returns in...However, <- comma he...

Explains why...would make the...claim to make more sense.

...too similar to homo sapiens. <- period The ones...not similar enough...but were decided to be separate.

^ The first sentence was a run-on sentence connected together by a comma splice.

  • As written, "decided to be separate" meant that the German and White Shepherds themselves decided to be separate.

...Taskukirja) have a...quite randomly, <- comma resulting in question-raising. For example, <- comma <missing text> lake's name...go to at...money <- no comma was...places <- no comma or use wordplay like translating Acapulco...the Finnish word...

^ What was the lake's name in the English version? If you don't know, use "one lake's name..."

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#20298: Sep 18th 2022 at 9:23:26 AM

I meant that their characters make up the most popular ship in the fandom how is this:

  • The 2022 TV adaptation of Darna has a large group of fans shipping the lead actresses Jane De Leon (who plays Narda/Darna) and Janella Salvador (who plays Regina Valentina). This is mainly due to the fact that they play characters who are shipped by a lot of fans, along with their their on-screen chemistry and real life friendship. This isn't helped by their chumminess in interviews and behind-the-scenes stuff. They even have their own Portmanteau Couple Name, "JaneNella".

Edited by Bullman on Sep 18th 2022 at 11:24:46 AM

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#20299: Sep 18th 2022 at 9:35:42 AM

[up] @March To 49

"Don't you google "forest street?" It's basically a street road surrounded by forests. I googled it myself when trying to describe the scene where Homer leaves Bart there in my recent post here, I saw photos of street road surrounded by forests, so I write that."

^ When someone is reading one of your examples, they shouldn't have to use Google to look up words and phrases you use. If you use an unusual phrase (one a native speaker of English wouldn't understand), you should briefly explain what it means so they don't have to do so.

^ For example: ...forest street (a street surrounded by forest)...

Everyone in the Springfield dies...

How does Baby...barely survive the bombing...just runs away while...bomb kills her...few other Smurfs.

Edited by Arivne on Sep 18th 2022 at 9:36:02 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#20300: Sep 18th 2022 at 9:41:20 AM

[up] @JMK 031

Write up examples and other text items that could be added to TV Tropes and post them here.

I or someone else will proofread them and post corrections so you can improve your English.

If you make three consecutive substantial posts without any errors being found, you can return to the Edit banned/Suspended - would like to edit again thread and ask the moderators to release you.

Edited by Arivne on Sep 18th 2022 at 9:56:06 AM


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