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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM
From page 798 @March To 49
...March 5, 2021 to March 4, 2022 due to the COVID-19 Pandemic.
The 2021 remake has received...original did.
...March 5, 2021 to March 4, 2022 due to the COVID-19 Pandemic.
From page 798 @Melinda
...book, <- comma but...who manages to find his way to fly own and...characters need a...
^ "to find his way to fly own" is not correct English.
A Jedi for who left the order during it before the war...
...appear and try to openly fight the early Empire, <- comma only...
...genuine Federal employees or self-employed horse thieves impersonating Federal officials.
From page 798 @Chris X
...that the someone who bumped into...to increase his wisdom and knowledge...they search for turns out...
Bright is an Assassin hero who switches...
^ If he's intelligent, he's a "who", not a "that".
...zweihander...and it deals additional true damage if it has a Revelation of Light mark on it.
^ Here's the definition of "zweihander" on The Other Wiki: Zweihänder
. It's a term for a type of sword. If you're using some other definition, you need to say so.
Until the skill duration ends, Bright will not die even if he runs out of HP.
^ If a phrase applies to the whole sentence, it should be at the beginning, not stuck onto the end.
...to form a zweihander and it deals greater damage...
^ See above.
Bright's kit is extremely loaded, and he...
^ This sentence is a list.
He never runs out of javelins because he can just form another out of thin air.
Only a few of Veda's dwellers (such as Lauriel) actually inherit this trait from Edras.
...and if he manages to kill anyone who deals damage...
...known as the Soul Lamp, <- comma and then <- no comma he accidentally broke it.
...travels the world as an introspective and calm soul <- no comma to redeem himself.
Eland'orr is a jungle-based Marksman hero who utilizes the Soul Lamp...
^ Intelligent = "who", not "that".
Eland'orr marks those he attacks with...he adds 3 marks...and adding a new seal...takes the form of a battlefield that lingers around for a time...location. For a time, Getting to...possession, he gains...
^ "a battlefield that lingers around for a time"? So what happens to the area this occurs in? Is it changed into the battlefield, or is it replaced by the battlefield?
...fly around in a circle for a period of time.
sending the Soul Lamp forward for a short time.
^ Forward how? In space (distance)? In time?
...breaking it cursed Tel'Annas...to fall into deep slumber.
The two elven girls of Afata, Krixi and Aya, are vying over him. He gives them...
On the outside, Eland'orr...children. However, he's...
Edited by Arivne on Aug 29th 2022 at 8:28:59 AM
- An Doraemon anime episode have an paperbox gadget which can suck peoples who done offending things (like lying, stealing things, food waste, or even killing a bug) into it, and have him/her getting tortured in different sorts of chambers ala Asian folk religion hell... until he/she grab the white rope to get out of the gadget or tampering with the gadget.
- Armor-Piercing Question: Kaido gives one regarding Kozuki Oden and Oden's failure to defeat him to Yamato at the end of their duel.
Kaido: If Kozuki Oden, the man you wish to become, couldn't surpass me... what hope do you have as you are?
- Fish out of Water: Izuku gets sent to the One Piece world, or, as the author puts it, he's "dunked into an ocean where Megalodons, leviathans, and fucking Godzillas roam about". Considering how ridiculously powerful and tough One Piece characters are WITHOUT putting Devil Fruits and/or Haki into the equation, Izuku's NOT going to have it easy here.
- Heist Episode: The Onigashima arc of the story is structured as one. Long story short, Yamato initially wants to help Izuku escape from Wano without her, but Izuku refuses to leave her behind, forcing them to steal a special set of keys to unlock her explosive shackles—with said keys being located on Kaido's person.
Edited by bf2234 on Aug 29th 2022 at 2:34:41 AM
@ MarchTo49
- An episode of the Doraemon anime (move text) has a paper box gadget which can suck people who do bad things (like lying, stealing things, wasting food, or even killing a bug) into it, where they are tortured in different (superfluous words - cut) chambers as in the Asian folk religion version of Hell ... until they grab the white rope to get out of the gadget or tamper''' with the gadget.
@ bf2234
- Armor-Piercing Question: At the end of their duel, (comma) Kaido asks Yamato what hope he has of beating Kaido if Kozuki Oden, the man Yamato wishes to become, couldn't do so. (move text)
- Heist Episode: The Onigashima arc of the story is structured around a theft. (superfluous words - cut, remove comma) Yamato initially wants to help Izuku escape from Wano without her, but Izuku refuses to leave her behind, forcing them to steal a special set of keys to unlock her explosive shackles—with said keys being located on Kaido's person.
Edited by Clare on Aug 30th 2022 at 3:23:44 PM
Here's part of the stuff I delayed posting yesterday due to taking a day off tropes.
@ WMG/Reacher
- Fans like the description of him in the books and wish he had remained alive. This could be an Author's Saving Throw.
- He has an odd case of What Happened To The
- Ensemble Dark Horse: Rookie officer Morganstern has less than 10 minutes of screen time, but is very well-liked for her Adorkable interactions with The Spirit, her use of a BFG in the climax, and her performer (Stana Katic).
@ ''The Spirit
- Men of Sherwood: The local cops help the Spirit with his investigations, and some are willing to give him rides. While a few of them are easily killed or injured when the villains catch them alone. The climax has Chief Dolan, Officer Morganstern, and dozens of uncredited cops come in guns blazing, kill most of the Octopus's men and wound the Octopus himself. They take no apparent casualties in the process despite the number of bullets being fired their way.
- Screw This, I'm Outta Here!: Floss flees in a van as the final standoff between her boss and the Spirit gets more tense and dangerous.
- What Happened to the Mouse?: Detective Sussman is last mentioned as being in the hospital fighting for his life after being shot during the first action scene, then he's never mentioned again.
@ ''Shenandoah
- Break the Haughty: While Charlie is a highly sympathetic Papa Wolf who refuses to support slavery, he can come across as rather arrogant early on and sad and deflated in the final scenes. His daily prayer to God is a rather condescending speech that he made his farm such a success without owing it to anyone else, but tradition says to thank God anyway. Charlie also expects to be able to browbeat government officials from both sides. At the end of the movie, three members of his family have died under tragic circumstances, something which visibly ages him.
- The Farmer and the Viper: A Dangerous Deserter arrives on the farm and impales James with a sword seconds after James generously tells him he's welcome to all the water he can drink and carry.
Edited by Melinda on Aug 30th 2022 at 7:54:47 AM
- Murdoch Mysteries: The same actors play most to all of the many constables at the station house throughout the series but it's extremely rare for any of them besides George, Higgins, or Jackson to have dialogue or plot prominence.
- Monster Town: New Orleans is overflowing with every kind of monster imaginable after a benevolent Bizarro Apocalypse. They peacefully coexist with humans for the most part, save for the odd Fully-Embraced Fiend.
- Brilliant, but Lazy: Shayla got sent to the Phantom Zone before the destruction of her planet because she wanted to be an astronaut but decided to use her energy training device to pass the physical rather than devote her energy to fairly passing the test. Someone died when she accidentally took too much energy, and Shayla got sentenced to the Phantom Zone.
- Heel–Face Turn: Shayla is a selfish villain in all of her appearances save her final one, where she has abruptly started using her talents for good and apologizes for her past crimes.
- They Changed It, Now It Sucks!:
- Some fans dislike how Zod is a self-appointed general and not a real one.
- The omission of most of the Silver Age Phantom Zone prisoners is disappointing for fans who like the idea of the dimension being packed with all kinds of criminals and not just a dictator and his two minions.
- The Executioner: Prisoners are beamed into the Phantom Zone (sometimes for eternity) by Cha-Kor, a big man with a black hood. The flashbacks in the epilogue flesh him out more. His sister was one of the people Jax-Ur killed, he feels little sympathy for any of the Phantom Zone prisoners besides his former commanding officer Zod (although not enough to approve of Zod's coup) and wouldn’t mind just killing them, and he sometimes wonders if Jor-El is right about the end of their civilization.
- Men of Sherwood:
- The Kryptonian Science Police is made up of unnamed officers who nonetheless efficiently arrest lots of the most dangerous criminals their planet has seen without much difficulty (they use a ray gun to knock Faora unconscious from a ship when she beats anyone who fights her hand-to-hand, they use a decoy and stun grenade on the psychic thieves Az-Rep and Nadira, and they fight off giant mutants while arresting Va-Kox).
- The Defense Corps has gone decades without fighting a war, but is still able to soundly defeat Zod and his army of robots during their attempted coup.
@ Superman – Rogues Gallery (Phantom Zone)
- Mad Scientist: A large number of the Pre-Crisis Phantom Zone prisoners are scientists who got people hurt or caused environmental harm while testing various new inventions (a rocket system, new chemical processes, a cyrosleep device, an immortality potion, labor robots, etc.).
- Token Good Teammate:
- Quex-El is an innocent man who got sent to the Phantom Zone due to a miscarriage of justice.
- Tra-Gob is a former professional criminal but feels obligated to Jor-El for saving his life and saves Superman from a monster during their one encounter.
- Vorb-Un experimented on forbidden technology but never hurt anyone with it, promises to never do it again during his parole hearing (his only scene), and never gives Superman any trouble after being paroled.
- Orn-Zu was sent to the Phantom Zone for attempting to kidnap children, but he was only trying to kidnap them to save them from the destruction of Krypton and he gets a Heroic Sacrifice after being released during his sole appearance.
- Omnidisciplinary Scientist: He is both an Evilutionary Biologist and a Robot Master.
Two thieves with psychic powers. Post-Crisis, they are sleeper agents mingling with the people of Earth on behalf of General Zod.
- Jerkass: The two are aloof and disdainful to anyone who talks to them.
- Magic by Any Other Name: Az-Rel can make people and things burn with his mind and Nadira can use her mind to make people feel pain, but their powers are treated as being a regional mutation and the more overtly mystical Thul-Kar is still viewed as an anomaly by Kryptonians.
- Retired Monster: The two rob and injure lots of people on Krypton. Once they get out of the Phantom Zone, they are among the few escapees not to help Zod in his plans of conquest, preferring to walk the streets and experience the pleasures of Earth. They still care only about themselves and will kill anyone who thinks Bullying the Dragon is a good idea, but they try to mind their own business.
- Unholy Matrimony: They are a couple and are extremely callous and dangerous.
A religious zealot who survives the destruction of his planet due to a force field surrounding his hometown, Argo City. He is the first person sent to the Phantom Zone after the destruction of Krypton after he accidentally dooms most of the city' s population to Kryptonite poisoning while moving the floating city away from a yellow sun due to viewing their powers as unnatural.
- Driven to Suicide: He kills himself with Kryptonite.
- Fantastic Racism: He goes berserk when a human touches him.
- A Lighter Shade of Black: He caused thousands of deaths, but it was an accident, he is deeply remorseful about it, and he only wants to be left alone after being freed from the Phantom Zone.
Edited by Melinda on Aug 30th 2022 at 10:47:41 AM
@ Melinda
^ Use curly brackets to link to an article with a one-word title.
^ Be careful how you use pronouns if they could refer to two or more people, or two or more groups of people. It's not clear which group of people "them" refers to.
He has an odd case of What Happened to the Mouse? in the book.
- Ensemble Dark Horse: Rookie officer Morganstern has less than 10 minutes of screen time, but (superfluous word - cut) is very well-liked for her (space) Adorkable interactions with The Spirit, her use of a BFG in the climax, and her performer (Stana Katic).
- Men of Sherwood: The local cops help The Spirit with his investigations, and some are willing to give him rides. While a few of them are easily killed or injured when the villains catch them alone, (comma, superfluous word - cut) the climax (remove comma) has Chief Dolan, Officer Morganstern, and dozens of uncredited cops come in guns blazing, kill most of the Octopus's men and wound (superfluous word - cut) the Octopus himself. They take no apparent casualties in the process despite the number of bullets being fired their way.
- Screw This, I'm Outta Here!: Floss flees in a van as the final standoff between her boss and the Spirit gets more tense and dangerous. (period)
- What Happened to the Mouse?: Detective Sussman is last mentioned as being in the hospital fighting for his life after being shot during the first action scene, then he's never mentioned again.
- Break the Haughty: While Charlie is a highly sympathetic Papa Wolf who refuses to support slavery, he can come across as rather arrogant early on and sad and deflated in the final scenes. His daily prayer to God is a rather condescending speech that he made his farm such a success without owing it to anyone else, (comma) but tradition says to thank God anyway. Charlie also expects (superfluous word - cut) to be able to browbeat government officials from both sides. At the end of the movie, three members of his family have died under tragic circumstances, something which visibly ages him.
- The Farmer and the Viper: A Dangerous Deserter arrives on the farm and impales James with a sword seconds after James generously tells him he's welcome to all the water he can drink and carry.
Edited by Clare on Aug 30th 2022 at 3:22:24 PM
@Melinda
"The same actors appear most to all of the constables at the station house..."
^ This is not correct English.
...than devote her energy to fairly passing the test.
...Zone (sometimes <- space for eternity)...
...(they knock Faora unconscious from a ship when she beats anyone who fights her hand-to-hand...
^ How do they knock her unconscious? By using a giant extendable boxing glove? :)
...new chemical processes, a cryosleep device...
...and never gives Superman any trouble after being paroled.
...Nadira can use her mind to make people feel pain...and the more overtly...
The two rob and injure...
Edited by Arivne on Aug 30th 2022 at 8:18:37 AM
- It is also unavailable in the Hong Kong version of Disney+.
- The Simpsons episode "Mobile Homer" was unavailable in the Turkish version of Disney+, likely due to the unflattering depiction of the Turks.
- In 2009, The Simpsons was stopped airing in the Ukrainian channel M1. Althought peoples has speculated that the show was banned in the country, the official reason was the channel's rights to the series were expired. A year later, the show returned to different Ukrainian channels until 2021.
The Simpsons S 16 E 13 Mobile Homer
- Banned in China: This episode was unavailable in the Turkish version of Disney+, likely due to the unflattering depiction of the Turks.
- The anime adaptation of Fujiko Fujio's Jungle Kurobe didn't receive an release outside Japan and Hong Kong, as the comic was in controversy regarding depiction of blacks and the Black Humor.
Edited by MarchTo49 on Aug 31st 2022 at 9:35:40 PM
- Shapeshifting Excludes Clothing: When Conan's crew raid Thulsa Doom's party, the sorcerer eludes them by slithering away as a snake, leaving his robes behind.
Edited by Avenger09 on Sep 2nd 2022 at 10:04:33 AM
Arivne: Sorry for the late reply. Let me address some of the things.
^ Here's the definition of "zweihander" on The Other Wiki: Zweihänder. It's a term for a type of sword. If you're using some other definition, you need to say so.
Okay, it seems to be a generic 2-handed sword not fitting as either zweihander or claymore. I'll just change it to "two-handed sword". That OK? Also, The Other Wiki's direct link is broken.
^ "a battlefield that lingers around for a time"? So what happens to the area this occurs in? Is it changed into the battlefield, or is it replaced by the battlefield?
Oh. Sorry. I meant to say 'butterfly'. It means that the butterfly stays in the field for awhile, flying around in the meantime.
^ Forward how? In space (distance)? In time?
Space/distance. How do you propose to fix that?
Thanks Arivne
- Informed Attribute: One panel in the opening scene goes over a Long List of Phantom Zone prisoners who appear in earlier comics but remain offscreen in this one. They are described as a “legion of infamy”, each responsible for “heinous” crimes. However, some of them them are only guilty of lesser crimes like theft (Ak-Var and Tra-Gob) or forbidden scientific experiments that didn’t hurt anyone (Vorb-Un), and several of them (including the aforementioned three) were even paroled and allowed to live in Kandor prior to this story. Possibly justified, since their crimes may be considered worse by the standards of the more advanced Kryptonian society, and the Phantom Zone inmates giving Quex-El dreams about the prisoners may not care about that point.
- What Happened to the Mouse?: Mon-El is never seen again (in this story) after unsuccessfully trying to find someone to help oppose Zod before the mass escape. Many Phantom Zone inmates who appeared in past issues while serving long sentences and didn't get pardons, like Cha-Mel, Gor-Nu, and Bal-Gra, are mentioned a few times but never appear during either the escape or the epilogue (where the remaining Phantom Zone residents are trapped in a crystal). Gra-Mo (the last prisoner sent into space in a rocket before the invention of the Phantom Zone, which is shown in a flashback in this comic) is also absent, even though an earlier comic has him get sent to the Phantom Zone after his rocket reaches Earth and he fights Superman.
@ Superman – Rogues Gallery (Phantom Zone)
- Recruiting the Criminal: Both Jax-Ur and one-shot inmate Gor-Nu are released from the Phantom Zone on probation to use their scientific expertise to stop a dangerous threat (threats to Kandor and Atlantis respectively), with the possibility of being pardoned if they behave honorably. Both perform their jobs, but then try to betray Superman and are sent back to the Phantom Zone.
- Unwanted Revival: Normally, the prisoners who get paroled are happy about this, but in one comic, Kur-Dul and Vax-Nor, two one-shot inmates who are being released into Kandor because their sentences are up, actually beg to stay in the Phantom Zone because everyone in the city is in danger of being killed by an approaching threat. Superman releases them anyway, to their unhappiness, and then stops the threat.
Edited by Melinda on Aug 31st 2022 at 11:26:01 AM
It is also unavailable in the Hong Kong version of Disney+.
^ What is unavailable? This is a Partial-Context Example.
...was unavailable on the...to its unflattering depiction of the Turks.
In 2009, The Simpsons was stopped airing on the...M1. Although people have speculated...was that the...series had expired...returned on different...
...was unavailable on the...to its unflattering depiction of the Turks.
...receive a release...was under controversy regarding its depiction...Humor in it.
@Melinda
...to give...blood ties...and give them resources...
^ The first "to give" was written so it applies to both the blood ties and the resources, so the second "give" is redundant. The "them" is redundant with "the next generation of the family".
...and quickly became First Ranger, <- comma so...
They are described as a “legion of infants”, each...society, <- comma and...
^ I have never heard or read the term "“legion of infant” in my life, but if it exists, under the rules of English it must be "infants" (plural).
...issues, <- comma like...and Bal-Gra, <- comma are...appear during either the...absent, <- comma even...reaches Earth and he fights Superman.
^ If you're talking about dirt, it's "earth". If it's the planet, it's "Earth".
...are once released...on probation to...jobs, <- comma but...
Normally, the prisoners who get paroled are happy about this, <- comma but...
Edited by Arivne on Aug 31st 2022 at 10:15:08 AM
- Transformers: Prime: Vehicons, the Decepticons' apparently cloned foot soldiers, have two vehicle modes; identical cars or identical cybertronian planes.

From page 798 @bf2234
After Tarkin...Council, <- comma Owen Lars ends up bursting into laughter from the sheer number of...
^ When one part of a sentence is related to another part, it should be as close to that other part as possible to make the relationship clear. That's why I moved the "Owen Lars" bit.
^ If you can count something, use "number". If you can't, use "amount".
...after he has to [
constantlylisten to the heroes constantly yell out...^ One of the two "constantly"s is redundant.
Edited by Arivne on Aug 29th 2022 at 6:54:45 AM