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This thread is for tropers who have trouble with English and would like some help with the crazy grammar of this crazy language.

Write down what you wish to edit on the wiki. If you have been suspended from editing, another troper might be kind enough to edit for you after your suggestions have been corrected.

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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#19151: Jul 20th 2022 at 3:48:23 PM

Would this be more clear?

  • Manipulative Bastard: He effortlessly brings Jindrax and Toxica under his sway by convincing him that he's the original Master Org for most of the season. Even after his revival, he's able to have Onikage ingratiate himself into the new faction that his traitorous underlings have created and use him to kill the faction leader, Mandilok, allowing Master Org to have his revenge and take back his position.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#19152: Jul 20th 2022 at 8:29:59 PM

Thanks.

@ The Batman (2022)

  • Amoral Attorney: He works in the DA's office and has no problem consorting with hookers at a mob-owned club and talking about the hidden corruption behind the Maroni bust.

    Vinnie 

Vinnie

Played by': Mark Killeen
One of Falcone's bodyguards at the Iceberg Lounge.
  • Bearer of Bad News: He alerts Falcone that Falcone's murder of Annika and role in the Maroni drug bust are being revealed on the news.
  • Spear Carrier: He shows up to have a couple lines of dialogue and interfere with Selina's attempt to kill Falcone, but isn't a very developed character.
  • Undying Loyalty: He continues to assist and protect Falcone even after learning that his boss is a police informant.

@ Finch (2021)

  • Fan-Preferred Cut Content: Several scenes showing Jeff and Goodyear bonding together more and then meeting other humans were filmed but cut from the final act. Since many fans feel that the film ends too soon after Finch dies and Jeff takes over raising Goodyear, this deletion can feel problematic.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: Jeff and his fellow robot Dewey barely interact or acknowledge each other's existence. Doing so would have allowed Jeff to explore his robot nature in greater detail and given Dewey a better niche in Finch's unorthodox family unit when he barely does anything after the first act.
@ Python
  • Moe: The cute way Theresa talks abut her childhood crush on Tommy and the amount of terror she displays while still showing some good Action Survivor skills make her surprisingly cute and endearing for a secondary character in a B-Movie.
@ Men of Sherwood
  • The Pillars of Reality: Mari's allies are competent, but are more of Badass Army due to their size and eventual military nature. Multiple pirate groups in the Empress of the Endless Sea prequel trilogy play this straighter, though.
    • The other other members of Jules's pirate crew are accomplished fighters who have a good survival rate.
    • In The Fate of the Free Lands, the prisoners Jules liberates and works alongside of while she's separated from her crew prove to be reliable, resourceful, and lucky enough to avoid dying at the hands of multiple threats.

Edited by Melinda on Jul 21st 2022 at 4:17:06 AM

monotrematum Since: Nov, 2021
#19153: Jul 20th 2022 at 9:59:58 PM

Alright, for Dragon Hill

  • All-CGI Cartoon: Sequels 3 onwards eschew traditional animation for CGI. Notably 2's 2D animation was already decaying and had multiple CGI assets, so this was inevitable.

Edited by monotrematum on Jul 20th 2022 at 10:00:09 AM

monotrematum Since: Nov, 2021
#19154: Jul 20th 2022 at 10:01:47 PM

For Balto:

  • What Could Have Been: Balto's lack of commercial success closed down Amblimation Studios for good, and with it several projects never came into fruition including an animated version of Cats.

Edited by monotrematum on Jul 21st 2022 at 5:11:29 AM

monotrematum Since: Nov, 2021
#19155: Jul 20th 2022 at 10:04:55 PM

For Onyx Equinox

  • Ambiguous Time Period: The story takes place somewhere in Mesoamerican history, deliberately unspecified. It does show the remnants of the Olmecs and Classical Mayan temples, but also major Maya cities co-existing with the Aztec empire.

Edited by monotrematum on Jul 21st 2022 at 5:11:47 AM

Risa123 Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#19156: Jul 20th 2022 at 11:31:25 PM

Have you missed the dont put multiple post here thing ?

monotrematum Since: Nov, 2021
#19157: Jul 20th 2022 at 11:58:20 PM

Like I said I have anxiety and this way at least we get three reviews in succession.

Risa123 Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#19158: Jul 21st 2022 at 12:32:51 AM

[up] It is also possible that waiting for review can help you avoid making the same mistake several times.

Anyway this is for ExperiencedProtagonist.

Basic Trope: The protagonist already has experience in their field.

  • Straight: Bob is a veteran soldier.
  • Exaggerated:
    • Bob is a soldier with decades of experience.
    • Bob has centuries of experience.
    • Regardless of what happens in the story, Bob has experience with it.
  • Downplayed: Bob is a soldier with some experience, but not a lot.
  • Justified: The mission Bob is on is dangerous and/or important, so it makes sense to send someone with experience.
  • Inverted: Bob has no experience with being a soldier.
  • Subverted: Bob only claimed to be a veteran.
  • Parodied: Bob's has experience with ridiculously specific, improbable or simply absurd things. Despite that, he still finds use for it.
  • Enforced: The creator believes that stories with random Joes saving the world are stupid, unoriginal, unrealistic and make experience seem meaningless.
  • Invoked: Bob believes that experience is important, so he tries to get as much of it as he can.

Edit: fixed issues which were pointed to me.

Edited by Risa123 on Jul 21st 2022 at 6:01:05 PM

NOYB Since: Sep, 2009
#19159: Jul 21st 2022 at 3:22:08 AM

@monotrematum Doing something the mod specifically asked you not to do will not help your case. Macron Notes said not to post here again until your posts have been reviewed and Synchronicity echoed that. So please don't. You don't want to aggravate them to the point of making your ban permanent because you refuse to follow directions, and ultimately it'll only slow things down to post suggested edits before your previous ones have been reviewed, not speed things up. As Risa 123 said, you don't want to repeat mistakes. I have strong anxiety myself sometimes and mildly on a constant basis, so I understand, but you will have to control it.

Edited by NOYB on Jul 21st 2022 at 3:27:58 AM

MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
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#19160: Jul 21st 2022 at 5:35:01 AM

~monotrematum Again, this isn't something that should be rushed. You need be patient and take your time with this. You still have posts that haven't been reviewed yet. Please wait until that's done.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 21st 2022 at 9:36:43 AM

Macron's notes
monotrematum Since: Nov, 2021
#19161: Jul 21st 2022 at 6:30:07 AM

Synchronicity reviewed the last three ones, however.

MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
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#19162: Jul 21st 2022 at 6:39:45 AM

Ok, I was mistaken on that front so I apologize. You still need to slow down, however.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 21st 2022 at 10:05:07 AM

Macron's notes
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#19163: Jul 21st 2022 at 6:53:44 AM

[up] @Melinda

...and interfere with Selina's attempt to kill Falcone, <- comma but isn't a very developed character.

Mari's allies are competent, <- comma but are more of Badass Army due...

...alongside of while...dying at the hands of multiple threats.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#19164: Jul 21st 2022 at 7:03:15 AM

[up] @monotrematum

The sequels from 3 onward eschew traditional animation for CGI. Notably, <- comma 2's 2D animation was already decaying and had multiple CGI assets, so this was inevitable.

^ How does animation "decay"?

^ You should use the works' names, not refer to them by their number.

...and with it, <- comma several projects that never came to fruition, <- comma including an animated version of Cats.

^ This is not an English correction, but since "Cats" is a work, it should have a namespace, be either a red or blue link, and be in either italics or quotes. E.g. Cats.

...but also major Mayan cities co-existing with the Aztec empire.

Edited by Arivne on Jul 21st 2022 at 7:11:08 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#19165: Jul 21st 2022 at 7:09:53 AM

[up] @Risa 123

Regardless of what happens in the story, <- comma Bob has experience with it.

Bob is a soldier with some experience, but it is not a lot.

Bob has experience...he still finds uses for it.

...stories with random average Joes saving the world are stupid, unoriginal, <- space unrealistic...

Bob believes that experience is important, so he tries to get as much of it as he can.

Edited by Arivne on Jul 21st 2022 at 7:12:40 AM

Risa123 Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#19166: Jul 21st 2022 at 7:19:32 AM

[up] The lack of average was intentional. Also experience is singular so why it would be "uses" ?

monotrematum Since: Nov, 2021
#19167: Jul 21st 2022 at 7:19:44 AM

  • All-CGI Cartoon: The two sequels eschew traditional animation for CGI. Notably, El Cubo Mágicos 2D animation was already dismal compared to the first movie's and had multiple CGI assets, so this was inevitable.

Edited by monotrematum on Jul 21st 2022 at 7:57:35 AM

Risa123 Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#19168: Jul 21st 2022 at 7:23:06 AM

[up] It is abysmal not dysmal.

Edited by Risa123 on Jul 21st 2022 at 4:28:30 PM

NOYB Since: Sep, 2009
#19169: Jul 21st 2022 at 7:39:27 AM

"Dismal" is also a word that means terribly bad, like "abysmal". It's just spelled with an I, not a Y.

Risa123 Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
monotrematum Since: Nov, 2021
#19171: Jul 21st 2022 at 7:56:46 AM

So 1 point since I used it correctly?

Unto the next:

  • What Could Have Been: Balto's lack of commercial success closed down Amblimation Studios for good, and with said closure several projects never came into fruition, including an animated version of Cats.

Edited by monotrematum on Jul 21st 2022 at 8:09:09 AM

Risa123 Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#19172: Jul 21st 2022 at 8:05:56 AM

[up]Strictly speaking you still made a typo by using "i" instead of "y", but i would still call it progress.

Edited by Risa123 on Jul 21st 2022 at 5:11:13 PM

NOYB Since: Sep, 2009
#19173: Jul 21st 2022 at 8:26:05 AM

That example sounds correct to me. "Came to fruition" is more common/natural-sounding than "came into fruition", but that's minor and not necessarily wrong per se.

monotrematum Since: Nov, 2021
#19175: Jul 21st 2022 at 8:29:24 AM

Ambiguous Time Period: The story takes place somewhere in Mesoamerican history, deliberately unspecified. It does show the remnants of the Olmecs and Classical Mayan temples, but also major Maya* cities co-existing with the Aztec empire.

  • Correct in plural and singular is Maya. "Mayan" is outdated academic and can be used but communities discourage that.


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