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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM
From page 754 @N2002
The boss theme of Morpho Knight in Kirby and The Forgotten Land is a Dark Reprise of the song that plays during the credits, <- comma fitting for the game's True Final Boss.
^ This was a sentence incorrectly split up into two sentences, with the second sentence being a sentence fragment.
Edited by Arivne on Jul 3rd 2022 at 6:40:21 AM
From page 754 @Melinda
She mentions that many other treasure hunters have vanished in the cemetery through the years...
From page 754 @ssbob90
...airplane <- no comma which has a...name <- no comma and...find the thrower. They find out that the throwers are their...who has lived ...know <- no comma that Tamarack...
@sdewap
In Chapter 43 - "Smelting the Sword (Part 1)", some...
^ Changed a chapter title to quotes instead of italics as per How to Write an Example - Italicize "Long" Work Names.
No one in the UA faculty told either Class 1-A or Class 1-B...
Edited by Arivne on Jul 3rd 2022 at 6:51:34 AM
Thanks, @Arivne.
Edited by sdewap on Jul 3rd 2022 at 8:56:11 PM
Thanks Arivne For Magnificent Bastard
- Nefarious villains of Sherlock Holmes: "Enquiry in Conduit Street" by David Marcum: Alfred Bassik appears to be one of the most prominent members of James Moriarty's criminal organisation but is secretly a mole working for MI-6 to undermine him. Bassik has been helping Moriarty with his criminal activities but also secretly feeding Sherlock Holmes information to defeat him under the alias of Porlock. Bassik sets Moriarty against his right-hand man Moran, afterwards helping to fool Moriarty himself and save some of his potential victims.
- Further Associates of Sherlock Holmes: "The Last Visitor" by Stephen Henry: Professor James Moriarty is once again depicted as the only man who can match Sherlock Holmes in brilliance and intellect. Moriarty recruits the art forger siblings Angelo and Lucrecia Lorenzoni by manipulating Angelo into becoming indebted to him. Moriarty than creates an identity for Angelo as a respectable art dealer in order to gain the trust of the art community. Angelo will than switch the real paintings for sale that are being sent through his gallery with clever fakes created by Lucrecia and later reveal that their fakes to the buyers of said paintings to force the sellers into debt and into the sway of Moriarty. Even after the siblings are killed by a reckless act of villainy, Moriarty patiently tails Sherlock in his investigation of the murders before skillfully disposing of the murderer after he's found the solution.
For Dracula: Ruler of the Night
- Cannot Kill Their Loved Ones: Milly, the wife of Van Helsing, is kidnapped in the middle of the story and turned into one of Dracula's vampire brides. After Dracula is killed, Van Helsing attempts to stake her, but ultimately can't bring himself to do so and settles for trying to find a cure for her. Fortunately, without Dracula present, she is more docile.
@ Cuphead's character page
For Ms. Chalice section
- A Day in the Spotlight: "The Delicious Last Course" is focused entirely on trying to bring Chalice back to life completely, with Cuphead and Mugman agreeing to help her out on her quest.
- All for Nothing: The quest for the ingredients to bring Chalice back to life turns out to be a bust since the Wondertart needs a living soul to be completed. Ms. Chalice absolutely refuses to sacrifice another to come back (even more so if it's Cuphead or Mugman's soul) and abandons the idea after Saltbaker's scheme is revealed. But she tells the two boys, she's okay with this, will continue to look for another method, and is more than happy to have gained two new friends from the ordeal.
For The King of Games and his Champions
- Flipping the Table: The queen starts her boss fight gleefully tallying up her gold, until she notices the player character and flips the table aside in anger at being interrupted before engaging the battle.
For the Moonshine Gang section
- Visual Pun: The Victory Fakeout is made out of flypaper with two flies stuck on it. Flypaper is meant to trap flies, hence it's a trap to get you to lower your guard.
- Weak Boss, Strong Underlings: The snail boss goes down very quickly compared to his subordinates, who take a bit of effort to defeat.
Edited by CASCHero on Jul 4th 2022 at 7:17:00 AM
- Related in the Adaptation: Some possible female line Blackfyres are cousins of Salladhor Saan.
@ Sundown: The Vampire in Retreat
- I Own This Town: Mardulak is a rare Big Good version. He built the town, supplies the blood substitute that keeps the Vegetarian Vampires fed, and is capable of silencing any bloodlust-fueled dissent against his plans with some reminders about his influence, subtle threats, and You Are Better Than You Think You Are comments.
@ The Twilight Zone 1985 S 1 E 21
- Always Night: The episode takes place in a part of the Arctic Circle that only gets any light during the summer, and it won't be summer for months.
- Bait-and-Switch Comment: Ilyanov tells the locals that the Romani music they are playing is banned in Moscow and that they are on notice to stop playing it...the next time they go to Moscow.
- Deceased Fall-Guy Gambit: After a wolf kills Mayor Titov, Ilyanov says Titov was the killer to allow the the vampire exiles to remain safe.
- Detective Mole: Local party official Polvin accompanies Ilyanov during his investigation and has assembled lots of evidence for him, but is one of the vampires who killed the local communists.
- Internal Reformist: Colonel Ilyanov has spent his entire adult life working within the Soviet system to try and save lives where he can, such as advocating exile over execution. However, for every person that he saves from execution, two more are killed. Ilyanov eventually agrees to be made a vampire so that he can create more and they can destroy the Soviet Union from the inside.
- Monster Town: Several residents of the Penal Colony are vampires who are, due to Commonality Connection feelings about how they're all exiles, given sanctuary by the human residents in exchange for defending them from threats.
- My Grandson, Myself: When Ilyanov picks up on how Valentina, the vampire leader, is too young to have been exiled fifty years ago, Polvin claims she's the original Valentina's daughter.
- Penal Colony: The locals don't seem to be doing the kind of labor they would in The Gulag, but they or their parents were exiled to Siberia due to being out of the government's favor.
- Savage Wolves: One of the suspicious deaths is blamed on the local wolves, and while the wolves are innocent of that, the locals fear them for being ruthless predators and one of the wolves kills Titov near the end.
- Screw the Rules, I Have Connections!: Ilyanov's more ruthless KGB rival usually wins their arguments because he has powerful friends.
- This Bear Was Framed: The vampires unsuccessfully claim one of their victims died in a wolf attack but the Soviet government is unconvinced.
- Vegetarian Vampire: Downplayed. The vampires get along well with the locals at the Penal Colony and only drink the blood of Savage Wolves as long as wolves are available. When they aren't, the vampires drain dangerous criminals and Dirty Commies serving the government's agenda.
- I Miss Mom: Sass and Bike clearly care about their missing father, with Sass fondly mentioning him at every opportunity, insisting that he'll be back soon, and asking Martin to look for signs of him in the woods.
- Adorably Precocious Child: Sass wears pink in most of her scenes and is an earnest and innocent Cheerful Child despite some Wise Beyond Their Years moments.
- Screw the Money, I Have Rules!: Implied. When Martin tries to rent a room in town, the publican says his rooms are all occupied and he won't evict any of his regular tenants even if Martin pays triple what they do. However, it's unclear if this is out of principle or reluctance to accommodate a supposed environmentalist in a community that depends on logging.
- Those Two Guys: Simon and Free, the main two anti-logging protestors, have some casual banter and always appear together.
- Wham Shot:
- When the loggers harass the environmentalists gathered at the Armstrong home, there's a shot of Jack Mindy in the back of one of their trucks, keeping his head down.
- When Martin finds Jarrah's body in the mountains, he finds one of Bike's sketches in Jarrah's jacket and then sees the logo of the Red Leaf Corporation on it, revealing they've been after the tiger longer than previously implied and that Jarrah worked for them before becoming an environmentalist.
- Alternate Character Interpretation: Is the rival hunter a Complete Monster who thinks nothing of killing people and animals alike or a Punch-Clock Villain whose bark is worse than his bite and who would have let Martin go after finding the tiger's den? It's implied that he set the fire at the Armstrong home but if he did so, it seems odd that Bike escaped unharmed and Sass didn't when they were sleeping right next to each other when the rival hunter broke into the house. He also looks uncomfortable a few times during his confrontation with Martin, but is that out of concern about how his prisoner might turn the tables or guilt about holding him at gunpoint and possibly planning to kill him later? The former possibility would make his role in the fire less likely.
- Catharsis Factor: After seeing Doug the logger get away with being a bullying thug for most of the movie, the moment where Martin drops his peaceful academic act long enough to choke Doug for several seconds can feel satisfying.
- Fanon Discontinuity: Some fans feel that the fatal fire at the Armstrong home and/or Martin going through with killing the tiger is an Audience-Alienating Ending and would prefer not to acknowledge those events.
- He's Just Hiding: Some fans prefer to think that Lucy and Katie survive the fire at the Armstrong house and are just in hiding, as little support as there is for that theory.
- Moe: Both Armstrong kids are utterly adorable and inspire protective feelings from Martin and the audience due to Sass being a wide-eyed Cheerful Child who is always asking questions and clearly misses her dad and Bike's Cute Mute attitude. Their mother eventually inspires some of this as well with her playful grins and Wide-Eyed Idealist attitude once she stops getting high on prescription meds to deal with grief over her lost husband and starts opening up to Martin and paying more attention to her kids.
- They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: The warning that rival companies are sending hunters to compete with Martin and kill the tiger is interesting and seems to be confirmed when someone sabotages and monitors Martin in the mountains (plus how Jarrah worried a stranger was following him in the Back Story). However, the only rival hunter to show up works for Martin's employer and is only sent in late in the film, when it seems like Martin is becoming unreliable. It's implied the saboteur following Martin was either Jack (due to his suspicions about Martin's motives) or an environmentalist wanting to protect the tiger. This can feel puzzling and unsatisfying since Jack doesn't appear to know about the tiger and would have known that a human could take the memory card from the highly conspicuous camera trap to avoid being caught on film, the two environmentalists previously expressed contempt for snares like the kind used to bait the animal trap, and none of them are likely to have followed and murdered Jarrah.
- Undercover When Alone: At the beginning of "To Switch a Witch", a cemetery caretaker is working alone when he sees the Monster of the Week, screams, and runs away. It later turns out that he and the person in the monster costume are partners, raising the question of why he acted so terrified before there were any witnesses around.
- Hocus Pocus: At the beginning of the film, Mr. Binx, his wife, Thackery's best friend and a bunch of Living Prop Puritan townsfolk march on the home of three immensely powerful and murderous witches...and capture and execute them without any apparent difficulty.
Edited by Melinda on Jul 4th 2022 at 3:20:31 AM
for Compressed Vice:
- Helluva Boss: In episode "C.H.E.R.U.B." the main trio of imps got Complexity Addiction. This is done purely out Rule of Funny because otherwise episode wouldn't happen: the imps are very pragmatic and usually silently kill their target(s) on the spot instead of playing the stupid game. This is the only incident when they were acting like that.
Edited by JasonRobotnik on Jul 3rd 2022 at 10:03:44 AM
for Characters/Cuphead:
- Faux Affably Evil: Chef Saltbaker is a Big Fun to the cups and citizens ... until it was revealed that he was Evil All Along. Then you realise that he's a Bad Boss and Manipulative Bastard.
Edited by JasonRobotnik on Jul 3rd 2022 at 10:16:04 AM
for The Ghost And Molly Mc Gee S 1 E 36 Home Is Where The Haunt Is:
- Acting Unnatural: Exaggerated. Molly tried to act like nothing's wrong in a very suspicious way. Later, she's breaking down in the song "Everything is totally normal" while on the edge of despair. And later, she crawled on the wall like a spider to move away from Libby.
For the :recap episode Mike Tyson mysteries life if but a dream: I wanna add this
- Bittersweet Ending
- a common them for the series if they don’t either leave the team confused or disgusted. considering the woman did wake up from her coma but they also learn she has sexual feelings for her stepson would classify the ending as such.
@ Melinda
The Twilight Zone 1985 S 1 E 21
Red Snow
- Always Night: The episode takes place in a part of the Arctic Circle that only gets any light during the summer, and it won't be summer for months.
- Bait-and-Switch Comment: Ilyanov tells the locals that the Romani music they are playing is banned in Moscow and that they are on notice to stop playing it...the next time they go to Moscow.
- Deceased Fall-Guy Gambit: After a wolf kills Mayor Titov, Ilyanov says Titov was the killer to allow the the vampire exiles to remain safe.
- Detective Mole: Local party official Polvin accompanies Ilyanov during his investigation and has assembled lots of evidence for him, (comma) but is one of the vampires who killed the local communists.
- Monster Town: Several residents of the Penal Colony are vampires who are, (comma) due to Commonality Connection feelings about how they're all exiles, (comma) given sanctuary by the human residents in exchange for defending them from threats (superfluous word - cut, move text).
- My Grandson, Myself: When Ilyanov picks up on how Valentina, the vampire leader, is too young to have been exiled fifty years ago, Polvin claims she's the original Valentina's daughter.
- Penal Colony: The locals don't seem to be doing the kind of labor they would in The Gulag, (comma) but they or their parents were exiled to Siberia due to being out of the government's favor.
- Savage Wolves: One of the suspicious deaths is blamed on the local wolves and while the wolves are innocent of that, the locals fear them for being ruthless predators and one of the wolves kills Titov near the end.
- This Bear Was Framed: The vampires unsuccessfully claim one of their victims died in a wolf attack, (comma) but the Soviet government is unconvinced.
- Pink Is Feminine: Sass wears pink in most of her scenes and is an earnest and innocent Cheerful Child despite some Wise Beyond Their Years moments.
- Screw the Money, I Have Rules!: Implied. When Martin tries to rent a room in town, the publican says his rooms are all occupied and he won't evict any of his regular tenants even if Martin pays triple what they do. However, it's unclear if this is out of principle or reluctance to accommodate a supposed environmentalist in a community that depends on logging.
- Fanon Discontinuity: Some fans feel that the fatal fire at the Armstrong home and/or Martin going through with killing the tiger is an Audience-Alienating Ending and would prefer not to acknowledge those events.
- He's Just Hiding: Some fans prefer to think that Lucy and Katie survive the fire at the Armstrong house and are just in hiding, as there is a little support (superfluous word - cut, move text) for that theory.
- They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: The warning that rival companies are sending hunters to compete with Martin and kill the tiger is interesting and seems to be confirmed when someone sabotages and monitors Martin in the mountains, but it's implied the saboteur was either Jack (due to his suspicions about Martin's motives) or an environmentalist wanting to protect the tiger.
- Undercover When Alone: At the beginning of "To Switch a Witch", (comma, superfluous word - cut) a cemetery caretaker is working alone (superfluous words - cut) when he sees the Monster of the Week, screams, and runs away. It later turns out that he and the person in the monster costume are partners, raising the question of why he acted so terrified before there were any witnesses around.
Edited by Clare on Jul 3rd 2022 at 10:06:38 AM
I was thinking about creating a tv trope page for A Supe of a Man but I was suspended from editing. It make me feel frustrated.
Hi fellas. It's me again. Let's have another try.
Two Headscratcher for Ms. Marvel:
- When Kamala practices with Bruno's assistance what she can do with her powers, she nearly falls off a roof. Bruno takes her hand and tries to pull her up, but she insists to let her go and falls, fortunately over another roof, proving that she wasn't in danger of falling to her death. However, the over-dramatic feeling this scene makes it resemble the iconic scene of Avengers: Endgame in which Black Widow asks Hawkeye to let her fall to her death so he can retrieve the Soul Stone. Two things then: first, how can Kamala know about how Black Widow died to imitate her death if that's only something Hawkeye saw and would have likely not told anyone due to the PTSD (this was shown in Hawkeye, after all) he was left with? And secondly, doing this doesn't mean that Kamala is disrespecting the heroic sacrifice of a member of the superhero community she idolizes who gave up her life to revive most of Thanos' victims (Kamala herself could have been one of the Snap's victims) and restore the world?
- While visiting Karachi, Kamala and her cousins are denied entry at a restaurant's buffet because Kamala was wearing jeans, which was apparently against the establishment's dress code, much to the chagrin of her cousins, as they were dying to get into the buffet but because of Kamala's clothes were forced to order à la carte. Wouldn't it have been easier for the cousins to leave Kamala outside so she could order what she wanted to eat while they entered and checked the buffet. Kamala didn't seem that disappointed for missing the buffet...
@miraculous
Angelo will then switch...Lucrecia, <- comma and...that they're fakes...
@CASCHero
...Dracula's vampire brides. He...but ultimately can't do it in the end.
...is focused entirely on trying to bring Chalice completely back to life...
But she tells the two boys <- no comma she's okay with this, will...
...at being interrupted before starting the battle.
Edited by Arivne on Jul 4th 2022 at 7:17:40 AM
@Melinda
...to try and save lives where he can, such as promising exile over execution.
^ Just "promising" wouldn't do any good. Did you mean "promoting" or "choosing"?
One of the suspicious deaths is blamed on the local wolves, <- comma and while...
.. as little support as there is for that theory.
^ This is correct English and need not be changed.
Both Armstrong kids...and clearly misses her dad <- no comma and Bike's Cute Mute attitude.
In episode "C.H.E.R.U.B.", <- comma the...imps get Complexity ...Funny, <- comma because otherwise the episode...happen. <- period The imps...incident where they act like that.
Chef Saltbaker is a Big Fun to the cups and citizens ... until it is revealed...
Molly tries to...Later, she breaks down during the song "Everything is Totally Normal" while...despair. And Later, she crawls on...
If you will post some text you've written that we can correct (such as material that would be on that page), then we can proofread it and help you improve your English.
@ElJuaco
When Kamala practices the use of her powers with...she insists that he let...feeling of this scene...And secondly, doesn't doing this mean...
...entry to a...Kamala is wearing...which is apparently...code. <- period This is much...they are dying...buffet, <- comma but <- no comma because...clothes, <- comma they are forced...buffet? <- question mark Kamala doesn't seem...disappointed about missing...
^ Split up the very long first sentence.
Seriously? "Engaging" and "starting" are the same thing. What difference does it make which one is used?
Also I said "brides", what mistake are you talking about?
Edited by CASCHero on Jul 4th 2022 at 5:26:41 AM
Someone please add this.
for Compressed Vice:
- Helluva Boss: In episode "C.H.E.R.U.B.", the main trio of imps get Complexity Addiction. This is done purely out Rule of Funny, because otherwise the episode wouldn't happen. The imps are very pragmatic and usually silently kill their target(s) on the spot instead of playing the stupid game. This is the only incident where they were act like that.
for Characters/Cuphead:
- Faux Affably Evil: Chef Saltbaker is a Big Fun to the cups and citizens ... until it is revealed that he was Evil All Along. Then you realise that he's a Bad Boss and Manipulative Bastard.
for The Ghost And Molly Mc Gee S 1 E 36 Home Is Where The Haunt Is:
- Acting Unnatural: Exaggerated. Molly tries to act like nothing's wrong in a very suspicious way. Later, she breaks down in the song "Everything is Totally Normal" while on the edge of despair. After that, she crawls on the wall like a spider to move away from Libby.
Edited by JasonRobotnik on Jul 4th 2022 at 1:15:29 AM
For My Ideal Academia.
- Oh, Crap!: To everyone's horror, Endeavor uses Prominence Burn, a pillar of flames that reach the sky, against Shirou in his examination.
- Screw the Rules, I Have Money!: Nezu laments that Endeavor can get away with destroying surveillance around his fights against Shirou by paying them back later.
Edited by sdewap on Jul 4th 2022 at 4:52:41 PM
For My Ideal Academia.