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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM

Teekah Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#18301: May 28th 2022 at 7:52:32 PM

For YMMV page Miraculous Ladybug :

  • Fan-Disliked Explanation:
    • A lot of fans dislike with Astruc statement that Chloe and Lila are both a character intentionally a Hate Sink and Beyond Redemption just because they are a love rival for Marinette and willingly ruin her life to win Adrien's heart. When it was come to Gabriel/Hawkmoth, the show keep painted him as Tragic Villain due to his motivation to reviving his wife but has few moment to be a good father toward Adrien and is perfectly fine terrorizing Paris and targeted young teenager as his minion. Making fans see this as huge example of Double Standard and sexism in series.

  • Unintentionally Unsympathetic:
    • Gabriel Agreste/Hawkmoth supposed to be seen as Tragic Villain who motivated to reviving his wife and a troubled overprotective single father for Adrien as he seen still care toward his own son. But the show has few scene where Gabriel try to made effort to be a decent person or a good father toward Adrien on-screen and is perfectly fine to akumatizing his son twice in different timeline if he found out his identity as Cat Noir. Making fans hard to sympathize or see Gabriel as Jerkass Woobie and feels he didn't deserve any kind of redemption.

ssbob90 Since: Sep, 2015
#18302: May 28th 2022 at 10:59:41 PM

Mobile Legends: Bang Bang

Crossover: The game has had both a Star Wars and Transformers crossover through skins.

  • Star Wars: Darth Vadernote , Yodanote , and Obi-Wannote .
  • Transformers: Optimus Primenote , Bumblebeenote , Grimlocknote , Starscreamnote , Soundwave and Ravagenote , and Megatronnote .

Brody:

Dreadlock Warrior: His hairstyle are dreadlocks which are tied back into a ponytail.

Mr. Fanservice: His corrupted right arm aside. Brody is an attractive-looking man whose muscular physique is showcased by his lack of a shirt.

Red Right Hand: His right arm, and most of his upper right body, is completely black, corrupted by the abyss.

Volcanic Veins: his right hand, and veins on his right arm, glow blue.

Walking Shirtless Scene: The only clothing he has on his upper body is a red cape and a shoulderpad.

Cyclops:

Cyclops: You don't say.

Julian:

Chain Pain: His main weapon is a chain with a blade at the end.

Mechanically Unusual Fighter: He is the first, and likely only, hero in the game to not have an ultimate, having three skills that can be upgraded five times each instead.

Argus:

Cain and Abel: The Cain to Rafaela Abel.

Fanny:

Difficult, but Awesome: She has the highest difficulty level in the game for a reason. As playing her well requires the player to master her Steel Cable skill, which requires good map awareness to know where to shoot to either charge in or escape. Played badly, she'll become The Load, often jumping into her enemy's hands and getting killed. But when played well she becomes an untouchable terror on the battlefield, quickly zipping in to assassinate an enemy before zipping away from any counterattacks.

Dual Wielding: Her Weapon Of Choice are a pair of swords. Combined this with her ability to rapidly move around the battle with a pair of cables on her hips bring to mind a certain corp that uses similar equipment.

Hit-and-Run Tactics: Her main skill, Steel Cable, emphasize the use of this tactic. As it allows her to rapidly enter and exit a battle, so long as there is a wall for her to hook onto.

Layla:

Art Evolution: Her first model, which is now a skin called Classic Malefic Gunner, has a noticeably more Cyberpunk look compared to her new Steampunk look.

BFG: Her Malefic gun is rather large rifle. But her previous version was even larger, being a Chainsaw-Grip BFG cannon.

Playboy Bunny: Her Bunny Babe skin is this.

Miya:

Bowdlerise: Her first two reworked default skins were more Stripperific compared to her current one. With the first putting her in a Chainmail Bikini bikini, her next iteration changed her bikini bottoms into shorts. While her new look switches it out for pants and changes her top to a more conservative shirt.

X-borg:

Artificial Limbs: Both his arms and his left leg are mechanical.

Cyborg: Spelt with Xtreme Kool Letterz.

Kill It with Fire: His left arm is a flamethrower which he uses with Fire Missiles.

Zilong:

Big Brother Instinct: He is loving and protective of his adopted younger sister, Chang'e, even gifting her rabbit that became her best friend.

Boring, but Practical: Compared to other heroes his ultimate only increases his stats, removes and makes him immune to slow, and reduce his passive proccing from three to two. But with how effective his passive is and how much damage he can deal once he has the equipment. His ultimate easily turned a a deadly hero into a killing machine.

Four Gods: Forms this motif, as the dragon, with Wan Wan (tiger), Ling (bird, though it's a finch), and Baxia (tortoise).

Popol and Kupa:

A Boy and His X: A boy and his giant wolf.

Esmerelda:

Body Armor as Hit Points: Her passive transforms any shield she gains into HP.

Paquito:

Badass Normal: Compared to other heroes who have special powers, magic, or advanced technology, Paquito fights with only his fist and boxing skills and easily comes out on top. Emphasized by the fact that he is one of the very few heroes to not have Mana or Energy as limitations, just cooldowns

Boxing Battler: He goes into battle with only a pair of Red Boxing Gloves. With his skills being punch-based.

Combos: His passive works like this. With every third casting of a kill enhances his next skill and removes its cooldown, allowing him to cast his skill twice or to combo it with another skill.

Covered in Scars: He has scars on his upper body. Most noticeably a large, X-shaped, one on his back and another on his forehead.

Edited by ssbob90 on May 29th 2022 at 6:26:37 AM

Clare Since: Aug, 2009
#18303: May 29th 2022 at 2:59:29 AM

@ Teekah

Miraculous Ladybug :

  • Fan-Disliked Explanation:

    • A lot of fans dislike (superfluous word - cut) Astruc's statement that Chloe and Lila are both (superfluous words - cut) intentionally a Hate Sink and Beyond Redemption just because they are love rivals for Marinette and willingly ruin her life to win Adrien's heart.

    • When it (superfluous word - cut) comes to Gabriel/Hawkmoth, the show (superfluous word - cut) paints him as a Tragic Villain due to his motivation to revive his wife, (comma) but he has few moments in which he is shown to be a good father to Adrien, (comma) and is perfectly fine terrorizing Paris and targeting a young teenager as his minion. Many fans see this as a huge example of Double Standard and sexism in the series.
^ You had two different examples on the same second-level bullet, so I've moved the second example to its own bullet.

  • Unintentionally Unsympathetic:

    • Gabriel Agreste/Hawkmoth is supposed to be seen as a Tragic Villain who is motivated to revive his wife, (comma) and a troubled overprotective single father to Adrien as he seems to still care for his (superfluous word - cut) son. But the show has few scenes where Gabriel makes an effort to be a decent person or a good father to Adrien on-screen, (comma) and he is perfectly fine to akumatize his son twice in different timelines when he finds out his identity as Cat Noir. This makes it hard for fans (superfluous word - cut) to sympathize with Gabriel or see him as a Jerkass Woobie, (comma) and many feel he doesn't deserve any kind of redemption.
^ Is "akumatize" an In-Universe term, or did you mean "atomize"? Also, when you say "he finds out his identity as Cat Noir," it's not clear which pronoun refers to which character, so you want to be careful how you use pronouns if you have two or more characters of the same gender.

Edited by Clare on May 29th 2022 at 3:09:20 PM

Clare Since: Aug, 2009
#18304: May 29th 2022 at 8:13:06 AM

@ ssbob90

Mobile Legends: Bang Bang

Brody:

  • Dreadlock Warrior: His hairstyle consists of dreadlocks which are tied back into a ponytail.
^ Zero-Context Example. You mention that he wears his hair in dreadlocks, but you don't say anything about him being a warrior. In order for it to count as a properly contextualised example, you need to cover all aspects of the trope.

  • Mr. Fanservice: His corrupted right arm aside, (comma) Brody is an attractive-looking man whose muscular physique is showcased by his lack of a shirt.

  • Volcanic Veins: His right hand, and the veins on his right arm, glow blue.

  • Walking Shirtless Scene: The only clothing he has on his upper body are a red cape and a shoulderpad.

Cyclops:

^ Zero-Context Example. Even if something is Exactly What It Says on the Tin, it still needs context, which in this case would be a reference to the character naturally only having one eye.

Julian:

  • Mechanically Unusual Fighter: He is the first, and likely only, hero in the game to not have an ultimate. (period) Instead (comma), he has three skills that can be upgraded five times each (superfluous word - cut).

Argus:

^ Zero-Context Example. You need to explain how these characters fit their respective roles in the Cain and Abel dynamic.

Fanny:

  • Difficult, but Awesome: She has the highest difficulty level in the game for a reason. (superfluous word - cut) Playing her well requires the player to master her Steel Cable skill, which requires good map awareness to know where to shoot in order to either charge in or escape. Played badly, she'll become The Load, often jumping into her enemy's hands and getting killed. But when played well she becomes an untouchable terror on the battlefield, quickly zipping in to assassinate an enemy before zipping away from any counterattacks.

  • Dual Wielding: Her Weapon Of Choice is a pair of swords. This, (comma) combined with her ability to rapidly move around the battle with a pair of cables on her hips brings to mind a certain corp that uses similar equipment.

  • Hit-and-Run Tactics: Her main skill, Steel Cable, emphasizes the use of (superfluous word - cut) tactics which involve running in to attack, then quickly retreating, (comma) as it allows her to rapidly enter and exit a battle, so long as there is a wall for her to hook onto.
^ Saying "emphasizes the use of this tactic" is a Zero-Context Example as it doesn't explain the tactic being used. I've rewritten that part to include an explanation of Hit-and-Run Tactics.

Layla:.

^ Zero-Context Example. You need to make it clear that the Bunny Babe skin makes her look like a sexy bunny girl.

Miya:

  • Bowdlerise: Her first two reworked default skins were more Stripperific compared to her current one. (superfluous word - cut) The first put her in a Chainmail Bikini (repeated word - cut), but her next iteration changed her bikini bottoms into shorts. (superfluous word - cut) Her new look switches the shorts out for pants and changes her top to a more conservative shirt.

X-borg:

^ Zero-Context Example. You need to make it clear that he's part-organic and part-mechanical.

Zilong:

  • Big Brother Instinct: He is loving and protective towards his adopted younger sister, Chang'e, even gifting her the rabbit that becomes her best friend.

  • Boring, but Practical: Compared to the other heroes his ultimate only increases his stats, removes and makes him immune to slow, and reduce his passive proccing from three to two. But with how effective his passive is and how much damage he can deal once he has the equipment, (comma) his ultimate easily turns a (repeated word - cut) deadly hero into a killing machine.

  • Four Gods: Forms this motif, as the dragon, with Wan Wan (tiger), Ling (bird, though it's a finch), and Baxia (tortoise).
^ Saying "forms this motif" is a Zero-Context Example. You need to make it clear what the trope is about and how it is used in the work.

Popol and Kupa:

^ Zero-Context Example. You need to make it clear what the trope is about and how it is used in the work.

Paquito:

  • Badass Normal: Compared to the other heroes, (comma) who have special powers, magic, or advanced technology, Paquito fights with only his fist and boxing skills and easily comes out on top. This is emphasized by the fact that he is one of the very few heroes to not have Mana or Energy as limitations, just cooldowns

  • Boxing Battler: He goes into battle with only a pair of Red Boxing Gloves, (comma) with his skills being punch-based.

  • Combos: His passive works by having every third casting of a skill enhance his next skill and remove its cooldown, allowing him to cast his skill twice or to combine it with another skill.
^ Saying "works like this" is a Zero-Context Example, so I rewrote so that it was clear that his passive enables him to combine his skills.

  • Covered in Scars: He has scars on his upper body, (comma) most noticeably a large (remove comma) X-shaped (remove comma) one on his back and another on his forehead.

Edited by Clare on May 31st 2022 at 10:46:36 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#18305: May 29th 2022 at 9:00:51 AM

From page 732 @Melinda

...drinking at the bar during the murder because, <- comma right...

...(really, <- comma he's fleeing the pawnshop...

Danielle/Cerberus is the primary creator and wearer of a suit of Power Armor that is used to defend The Mount, <- comma and eventually works to upgrade and replace the original.

^ The comma is necessary because, without it, you wrote that the suit of Power Armor eventually works to upgrade and replace the original.

...though, as the regular survivors' ...worst ungrateful moments...

...acting as Badass Normal support personnel who fight alongside the heroes, <- comma but...

Limber Jim's Vigilante Militia against the POW camp's gangs does contain the main characters, but they don't take an active role in it for a while and there are dozens of other prisoners involved. Once they finally take up arms against Collins and his raiders, they handily crush them.

^ Who is "they"? The militia? The POW camp's gangs? The main characters? The dozens of other prisoners involved?

^ What I and Clare have said about "If you're talking about more than one character with the same gender, it needs to be clear who you're referring to" also applies to talking about more than one group.

Corey being hung up over the undeserving Joe is a notable plot point early on, <- comma but...

...academic focus, <- comma but once Lloyd dark approach her and invite her to a party, <- comma she...

^ "...once Lloyd dark approach her..." is not correct English.

"It gets unearthed inch final battle..." is not correct English.

"...Ray Hammond's nov scenes..." is not correct English.

...(the latter two features from falling face first during a track meet)...

...those days were kinder for her.

The Renegades and the Rattlers, the white and Mexican gangs of Inferno, <- comma have some members who go to work for cocaine dealer Cade after high school, but most, although not all, members are only threats to each other and, <- comma even then, <- comma are...

^ Any time you have a single sentence the size of a paragraph, it's usually a good idea to break it up (if possible) to make it easier on the reader, like so:

The Renegades and the Rattlers, the white and Mexican gangs of Inferno, have some members who go to work for cocaine dealer Cade after high school. <- period However, most...

Colonel Rhodes, who leads the soldiers tracking down the aliens...

"...and how poor choices they're making."

^ Change to either:

  • "...and how poor the choices they're making are."
  • "...and the poor choices they're making."

They respect him a bit for trying, <- comma but dismiss the sentiment...

Sarge adopted a stray dog named Scooter, <- comma but had to shoot him to keep him from...to their foxhole...it still haunts him.

Fat, cowardly, mildly corrupt Sheriff Vance becomes a lot more brave...

...to look for the missing father of one of the gang members....anyone rescues the...

The paintball players OR The Paintball Players (if that's their name).

Larry is the fattest of the group and repeatedly complains that he's hungry, <- comma while...

Roy mutters several...

...chops brush with...to stealthily move...Katie doesn't view...accident or gotten lost.

Stan views the game with a militaristic, obsessive eye and...

Edited by Arivne on May 29th 2022 at 9:09:49 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#18306: May 29th 2022 at 9:17:33 AM

From page 732 @Bullman

William/Dolores is by far the biggest ship in the fandom due to the tragic angle...and genuinely gets far more fan content than the latter.

^ "genuinely gets"? As opposed to getting it falsely, or not actually getting it? Either it gets far more fan content or it doesn't.

However, while that does have its fans...has a little over 9 times as many fanfics...

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#18307: May 29th 2022 at 9:31:57 AM

Thanks Arivne.

Also for the Magnificent Bastard thread:

  • Elizabeth Swann, the daughter of Governor Weatherby Swann, help saved William "Will" Turner from drowning, hiding his pirate connection from her father's men. When The Black Pearl attacks Port Royal, Elizabeth uses her knowledge of the Pirate Code to get an audience with Barbossa, tricking him into thinking she is the Turner child he is looking for. When she is marooned on a island with Jack Sparrow, Elizabeth uses all the rum hidden on the island to build a signal fire to alert the Navy as to where they are. Elizabeth later aids Jack's escape attempt by pretending to faint. When imprisoned by Lord Cutler Beckett, Elizabeth uses her father's failed rescue attempt to take Beckett hostage, before forcing him to sign the pardon papers for Will and using a fake ghost to scare an entire ship into taking her where she needs to go. Later Elizabeth uses Jack's feelings for her to trap him on the ship as the Kraken attacks, leaving him to a Fate Worse than Death and fully earning the title of a "Pirate". Being made captain of The Empress and voted the Pirate King, Elizabeth leads fight against the East India Trading Company and The Flying Dutchman, before settling down to raise her and Will's son and, years later, finally reuniting with Will.

Any corrections?

Edited by Bullman on May 29th 2022 at 4:07:02 AM

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
brb1006 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#18308: May 29th 2022 at 1:56:52 PM

For the Saving our Fragile Earth - Unico Special Chapter entry.

Saving our Fragile Earth - Unico Special Chapter is a 2000 Short Film by Tezuka Productions marking the fourth animated appearance of Unico.

The short involves Unico befriending Tsubasa (a wooden creature who thinks he's human), Sphinx-san, and The Spirit of Time as they travel back in time to save the earth from becoming entirely polluted and human life.

The film is a Japanese/Chinese co-production and marked the appearance of Unico after the passing of Osamu Tezuka in February 1989 of stomach cancer. After this short, the Unico series would mostly live on in merchandise and occasional crossover appearances before Tezuka Productions announced a re-imagining of the series with Unico: Awakening.


  • And I Must Scream: When time runs out, Unico and his friends all turn into stone. Happily, Unico manages to turn into The Mighty Unicorn thanks to love and friendship he developed.
  • Anti-Villain: The Monster that Unico befriends believes that all humans are careless with the earth. Happily, Unico convinces him that not all humans are careless with the environment and some are actually trying to help the environment.
  • Bitter Sweet Ending: Like other animated works starring the eponymous unicorn, despite convincing a monster that not all humans are careless. The West West takes Unico to another location after saving the day.
  • Expy: The Spirit of Time closely resembles AstroBoy despite being a different character.
  • Green Aesop: Similar to the 1979 Pilot Movie, Unico: Black Cloud and White Feather by Sanrio Animation, the short is focused on Unico and Tsubasa traveling to Earth where humans are being careless with the environment.
  • Heel–Face Turn: Thanks to Unico befriending and convincing The Monster that is angry over humanity polluting the earth (since he was made out of it). The Monster decides to actually gives humans a chance.
  • The Cameo: When Unico and Tsubasa travel back in time to when earth was still inhabited by humans. A Kimba stuffed animal is seen being tossed out in the open.
  • Pinocchio Syndrome: Tsubasa is a tree creature who wants to be a human. By the end of the short, it's revealed that Tsubasa was reborn as a human baby.
  • Polluted Wasteland: The short takes place in a universe where earth has been completely deserted. The Water Spirit explains that earth become uninhabitable due to humans using up all resources.
  • Race Against the Clock: Unico, Tsubasa, Sphinx-san, and The Spirit of Time has to convince a monster to give humans a chance in a matter of minutes.
  • Riddling Sphinx: Unico and Tsubasa encounters Sphinx-san, who won't help them unless they can solve her riddle. If they guess wrong, she will eat both of them. Luckily, Unico and Tsubasa solves her riddle by saying "Humans".

Trivia

  • Celebrity Voice Actor: In the Spanish dub, Unico is voiced by popular Mexican singer, model, and actress Aracely Arambula.
  • International Coproduction: This short is a co-production between Japanese and Chinese animation studios.
  • Outlived Its Creator: This is the first work starring Unico made after Tezuka's passing of stomach cancer in 1989.
  • No Export for You: Saving our Fragile Earth alongside Unico: Black Cloud and White Feather never gained an official English dub or hit the international markets. The exception is Spain and Mexico, where both countries dubbed all animated works starring Unico (including the film series by Sanrio Animation).
  • Studio Hop: Sanrio Animation/Sanrio Film previously had the film rights to the Unico series between 1977 till 1985. After the studio's closure, future animated works starring Unico would be moved to Tezuka Productions beginning with this short film.
  • The Other Darrin:

YMMV

  • Heartwarming Moments:
    • Unico's friendship and close bond with Tsubasa, while he feels guilty for dragging Unico into a world that's completely deserted. Unico remains loyal and desperately wants to save the earth.
    • Similar to Sanrio Animation's Unico in the Island of Magic, a sequel to The Fantastic Adventures of Unico. Unico showing concern to The Monster made of pollution after hitting his head on a rock. Later when he almost crushes Unico to death, he utters "Poor thing" before injuring his arm to free himself. He even convinces The Monster that not all humans are cruel with earth with some actually trying their best to keep earth clean. Unlike Kuruku, The Monster actually does become Unico's friend but pleads "To never meet again".
    • Seeing the earth completely clean after Unico, Tsubasa, Sphinx-san, and The Spirit of Time return from a time when humans were careless with earth. After Unico leaves, we see that Tsubasa's dream on becoming a human has finally come true.
  • Nightmare Fuel: When time runs out, Unico and his friends all get turned into stone. Thanks to love and friendship, Unico manages to break free by turning into The Mighty Unicorn and rescuing his friends as they return back to the present.
  • Tear Jerker: As Unico avoids fighting The Monster due to being angry over humans messing up the earth. Unico instantly sympathizes with him by saying "Poor Thing" before being forced to damage his arm to escape.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#18309: May 29th 2022 at 3:42:25 PM

[up] @Bullman

...Elizabeth uses her father's failed rescue attempt to take Beckett hostage <- no comma before...Later, <- comma Elizabeth uses Jack Sparrow's feelings...Elizabeth leads the fight...

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#18310: May 29th 2022 at 4:25:57 PM

[up] @brb1006

...save the Earth from becoming entirely polluted <missing text> and human life.

^ There's something missing between "polluted" and "and".

...thanks to love and friendship he developed.

^ With whom?

...all humans are careless with the Earth...careless with the environment...help it.

The West Wind takes Unico to another location after he saves the day.

The Spirit of Time closely resembles Astro Boy, <- comma despite being a different character.

...the Earth (since...it), <- comma The Monster decides to actually give humans a chance.

^ This should be a single sentence.

...to when Earth was still inhabited by humans, <- comma a Kimba...

^ Ditto

The short takes place in a universe where Earth has...that Earth became uninhabitable...

Unico, Tsubasa, Sphinx-san, and The Spirit of Time have to convince...

Unico and Tsubasa encounter Sphinx-san...Unico and Tsubasa solve her riddle...

Along with Unico: Black Cloud and White Feather, Saving our Fragile Earth never gained...

...to the Unico series between 1977 and 1985....Tezuka Productions, <- comma beginning...

^ You could also write "between 1977 till 1985" as "from 1977 till 1985".

Unico's friendship and close bond with Tsubasa <- no comma while Tsubasa feels ...save the Earth.

Similar to Sanrio Animation's Unico in the Island of Magic, a sequel to The Fantastic Adventures of Unico, <- comma Unico shows concern for The Monster made of pollution after The Monster hits his head on a rock. Later, <- comma when The Monster almost crushes Unico to death, Unico utters "Poor thing" before injuring his arm to free himself. Unico even convinces The Monster that not all humans are cruel to the Earth, <- comma with some actually trying their best to keep Earth clean. Unlike Kuruku, The Monster actually becomes Unico's friend but pleads "To never meet again".

^ Whenever you're talking about two or more characters with the same gender, please be careful when using gendered pronouns (he, she, him, her) when referring to them.

^ For example, from the above:

Unico showing concern to The Monster made of pollution after hitting his head on a rock.

^ When you write "his head", it's not clear if you're talking about Unico or The Monster. I assumed it was The Monster because Unico probably wouldn't be doing much after hitting his head on a rock, but with anime you never know.

Later when he almost crushes Unico to death, he utters "Poor thing" before injuring his arm to free himself.

^ It's not clear who utters "Poor thing" and injures his arm. As written it's The Monster, but the last example below indicates you meant it was Unico.

Seeing the Earth completely...were careless with it. After...dream of becoming...

...messing up the Earth. Unico instantly sympathizes with him by saying "Poor Thing" before being forced to damage his arm to escape.

^ This is the example that allowed me to realize that you meant Unico above.

Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#18311: May 29th 2022 at 4:52:06 PM

@ Obi-Wan Kenobi

Hoss Kerin/Don-Wan Kihotay will appear as an associate of Haja
  • Kerin is another Jedi fanboy who has some skills and pretends to be a Jedi during the Empire's reign in Legends. If he doesn't appear, maybe Haja is an Expy of him.
    • For that matter, maybe Baze and Chirrut will show up in that way, as they're also non-Jedi protectors of Jedi traditions.

Obi-Wan will have another talk with Owen and either tell him that Anakin is Vader or refrain from telling him at the last moment.

@ Friday the 13th Part VI: Jason Lives Adding stuff about the same characters to two separate lists.

  • Paintball players Roy (for being a humorous Butt-Monkey) and Katie (for besting her misogynistic opponents) win over a lot of fans in their one scene.
  • Cort's girlfriend Nikki, for the darkly hilarious ways she tries to get Cort to hold off an orgasm for another ten minutes while acting casual about it and the way Jason rams her face into the wall of an RV hard enough to make an impression of it.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character Killing off all five of the paintball players in the same short scene is kind of wasteful, and some fans wish a few of them had been kept around to encounter other characters.

@ Men of Sherwood

  • Stephanie Plum: The employees at Ranger's security company are all skilled former soldiers or criminals who are miles more competent than the protagonist and provide a lot of help without suffering much misfortune almost every time any of them besides Tank appear.

Edited by Melinda on May 31st 2022 at 6:24:02 AM

Bubblepig Rei from Tokyo (Apprentice) Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
#18312: May 29th 2022 at 6:24:25 PM

@Lift You Up

  • Downer Beginning: The film starts with Iris in a spaceship, video chatting with Mike while they're watching soccer, planning to leave her space mission to go home in a few weeks. But suddenly, a mysterious orange laser blasts the Earth, killing Mike. Forcing Robot to move the spaceship to flee while a horrified Iris watches the explosion, tearfully calling out Mike's name. This starts the plot.
  • Robosexual: Probably . While it's clear that Robot has a crush on Iris. It implied that during her times with Robot on another planet, Iris reciprocated her feelings to Robot as we see her (as an elderly) cuddling with Robot on a bed.
  • Soundtrack Dissonance: The titular song by Sean Koch is still playing during the scene where Iris saw Robot setting up a laser cannon to destroy Earth. Given the fact that Lift You Up is a calming and lighthearted indie-folk song, it's quite unsettling.
  • Titled After the Song: The title comes from a 2017 indie-folk song called Lift You Up by Sean Koch as the song starts playing when Iris and Robot travel and explore another planet.

Edited by Bubblepig on May 29th 2022 at 7:20:19 AM

"Now it's starting to feel like a game!"
Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
VoicelessCob Since: Nov, 2016 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#18314: May 29th 2022 at 8:30:52 PM

[up]@Bubblepig

  • Downer Beginning: The film starts with Iris in a spaceship, video chatting with Mike while watching soccer together, planning to leave her space mission to return home in a few weeks. But suddenly, a mysterious orange laser blasts the Earth, killing Mike. Forcing Robot to move the spaceship to flee while a horrified Iris watches the explosion, tearfully calling out Mike's name. This starts the plot.
  • Robosexual: Probably. While it's clear that Robot has a crush on Iris. It is implied that during her times with Robot on another planet, Iris reciprocated her feelings to Robot as we see her (as an elderly) cuddling with Robot on a bed.

Amcelynn Patron Saint of Laboratories from Third Planet of the Sol System (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Patron Saint of Laboratories
#18315: May 30th 2022 at 1:40:48 AM

Okay, this version has the corrections that @Arivne suggested, or at these all the ones I could find.

Fan Work/Second Best (Shadow and Bone)

'When another sun summoner is found, Alina watches from the sidelines of a life that was supposed to be hers.'

Second Best is an epic Shadow and Bone Alternate Universe Fic by Stormpill. The story explores what would happen if a more palatable Sun Summoner showed up shortly after Alina Starkov had awakened her powers.

The Fic was eventually taken down by Stormpill as a result of online harassment but copies exist in private. Stormpill has also hinted they would be willing to repost it in the future. The Fan Verse The Second Best Cinematic Universe is still active on Archive of Our Own.


Second Best contains examples of:


Edited by Amcelynn on Jun 3rd 2022 at 2:33:54 PM

Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#18316: May 30th 2022 at 2:43:28 AM

For Star-Crossed Lovers Visual Novel:

For Meta Twist Visual Novels:

  • Missing Parts The Tantei Stories: Done tragicallynote . The game introduces non-romantic/platonic girls of the week in first five cases and Kyosuke has to protect them as they're involved with murders/killers of some people they know/love. Failing to save the Girl of the Week in the climax of each case will lead you to the bad ending a.k.a. Game Over screen. Surprisingly, Liangxue Li's (the girl of the week of Case 3) death scene at the end of Case 3 "The Entrusted Paper Knife" doesn't lead you to the Game Over screen, instead, it leads you to the credits and the Gameplay Grading screen. To make it worse, all rank endings (even if you manage to get the Rank A ending) of Case 3 has Liangxue dying after being shot by Yikai Wei and the next case begins with Kyosuke suffers Past Experience Nightmare about the previous case.

Edited by Minorica on Jun 2nd 2022 at 12:05:08 AM

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#18317: May 30th 2022 at 7:02:57 AM

[up] @Melinda

Obi-Wan will have another talk with Owen and either tell him that Anakin is Vader <- no comma or refrain from telling him at the last moment.

...rams her face into the wall of an RV hard enough to make an impression on it.

They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character: <- colon

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#18318: May 30th 2022 at 7:15:29 AM

[up] @Bubblepig

But suddenly, a mysterious orange laser blasts the Earth, killing Mike <- no period and forcing Robot...

While It's clear that Robot has a crush on Iris. It's implied that during her times with Robot on another planet, Iris reciprocated Robot's feelings, as we see her (as a senior citizen) cuddling with Robot on a bed.

...where Iris sees Robot setting up a laser cannon to destroy Earth.

The title comes from a 2017 indie-folk song called Lift You Up by Sean Koch, <- comma as...

Edited by Arivne on May 30th 2022 at 7:49:33 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#18319: May 30th 2022 at 7:48:44 AM

[up] @Amcelynn

The fic was eventually taken down by the author, Stormpill...

She gets worse as the story goes on, but...

Alina is a caring person, <- comma but she's willing to do some nasty things if she has to.

Both Royals survive, <- comma but Malyen Ostrev dies in the crossfire.

In the final scene, Aleksander willingly submits to Alina <- no comma for...

Averted. <- period Ravka's...popularity plummets.

...70 Recursive Fan Fictions....grouped together in an AO 3 Collection, <- comma The...

Alexander Morozova is closer to Black than Grey, but...

When Aleksander and the Grisha abandon Alina, they expect her...

Both Alina and Svetlana are Sun Summoners, <- comma but...

As in the TV canon, <- comma Alina is visibly mixed race, <- comma which makes...

Zoya Nazyalensky doesn't appear, <- comma but her rebellion...

Aleksander ignores...and makes her take the blame.

Aleksander manages to move the Shadow Fold across Ravka's borders, <- comma meaning...

She isn't Anti-Grisha, <- comma but...

Downplayed. <- period Alina chooses...

Except not, as it turns out...

Mal finds all...This gives Aleksander the power...

Downplayed. <- period Alina isn't...

Edited by Arivne on May 30th 2022 at 7:49:00 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#18320: May 30th 2022 at 7:51:22 AM

[up] @Minorica

... if Kyosuke chooses the correct options.

Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#18321: May 30th 2022 at 7:59:02 AM

For Meta Twist Visual Novels:

For He's Just Hiding Visual Novel:

Edited by Minorica on Jun 2nd 2022 at 12:06:05 AM

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#18322: May 30th 2022 at 8:04:04 AM

Thank you Arivne. Can you please check my latest entry now? grin

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
Amcelynn Patron Saint of Laboratories from Third Planet of the Sol System (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Patron Saint of Laboratories
#18323: May 30th 2022 at 5:33:27 PM

Hi Arivne. I made the corrections you suggested. can you check them out?

Edited by Amcelynn on May 31st 2022 at 11:34:47 AM

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#18324: May 30th 2022 at 7:21:28 PM

For YMMV.Once Upon A Time:

  • Memetic Loser: Robin Hood, in the show is, shown to be quite a competent archer, but the main thing a lot of fans remember him for is him repeatedly getting beat up or knocked out in battle, often overplaying how much it happens. One of the main things these fans like to use is him being immediately knocked out by Zelena right after making a bold statement about aiming straight and true.bA lot of fans also try to play him as a deadbeat dad due him not naming his new born daughter until "he knows her" after leaving her not long after she was born. There's also a running joke among much of his detractors that he must be constantly constipated due to his actor Sean Maguire's habbit of always scornching up his face in away not to desimmilair from someone who has to go to bathroom really bad.

Also same page Memetic Mutation tree:

  • Snow says "Porn!" [[ note ]] After Snow's actress Ginnifer Goodwin indirectly compared fans shipping the characters Emma and Regina together from the show together to people watching porn on cable, fans took to taking any funny reaction from Snow and pairing it with any shippable or Ho Yay moment between Emma and Regina with it often having Snow proclaim it to be porn. [[ / note ]]

Any corrections?

Edited by Bullman on May 31st 2022 at 7:53:55 AM

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
FunDwellerMcO9 Rainbow Abyss Inhabitant from Down the Shinning Deep Since: Apr, 2022 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Rainbow Abyss Inhabitant
#18325: May 30th 2022 at 9:27:51 PM

Got suspended, posting my three suggestions for Garena Free Fire

  • An Ice Person: Xayne and Nairi both have skills that affect gloo walls and their promotional artwork depicts them in an icy environment, Nairi also freezes the air around him perpetually with his default clothes.
  • Stealth Expert: Rafael who is described as a professional hitman and looks straight up like Agent 47 from the Hitman games has a skill that silences all sniper rifles making you invisible in the mini map.
  • Dodge the Bullet: Misha has a skill that increases the speed of all vehicles and Misha is such a good driver she can dodge all bullets while driving anything.

"He was an hero"-somethinsomeonesaidinanotfunnyevent

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