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This thread is for tropers who have trouble with English and would like some help with the crazy grammar of this crazy language.

Write down what you wish to edit on the wiki. If you have been suspended from editing, another troper might be kind enough to edit for you after your suggestions have been corrected.

The thread is for help and feedback on your own suggested edits.

If you want help correcting other people's edits (e.g., if you find a page which seems to have grammar problems but want a second opinion, or you don't feel able to fix it by yourself) then that's off-topic here, but we have a separate Grammar Police cleanup thread that can provide assistance.

Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM

Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#14826: Sep 6th 2021 at 9:18:45 PM

For Grand Theft Me Anime and Manga:

  • Played for Laughs in KonoSuba. In the fifth episode of the second season, the protagonists have to deal with Darkness, getting taken over by Vanir's mask. Since Darkness is a masochistic but pain-immune heroine, she is still able to show her true self in a comical way.

Edited by Minorica on Sep 7th 2021 at 5:18:38 PM

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
Vandagyre I think I just got AC team loyalty from Dacardia (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
I think I just got AC team loyalty
#14827: Sep 6th 2021 at 10:27:34 PM

[up]Played for Laughs in KonoSuba. In the Season 2 Episode 5 fifth episode of the second season, the main protagonists have to deal with Darkness, another main protagonist, who gets stronger as she getting taken over by Vanir's mask. Since Darkness is a masochistic but pain-immune heroine, she is still able partially to show her true self frequently in a comical way, however.

Cave Johnson, we're done here.
MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#14828: Sep 7th 2021 at 1:59:47 AM

"Imagine how must have reacted the young girl's parents upon discovering from their neighbours that their daughter was killed for committing vandalism, even if the Fingerman who shot her was murdered."

I don't think I need to tell you why "Imagine how must have reacted the young girl's parents" is wrong. Also, "discovering from their neighbours" is wrong. It should be "learning from their neighbours".

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#14829: Sep 7th 2021 at 2:03:23 AM

Wile: "The trope in case" is wrong. It should be "the trope in question."

"slightly lampshaded" is Word Cruft. Cut the "slightly". (Honestly, I'm not sure this even counts as lampshading.)

The ellipsis should be replaced by a colon.

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#14830: Sep 7th 2021 at 2:06:30 AM

Melinda: "cowers behind a tombstone, watch him." I think you mean "watching him".

"He frantically calls the police about Batman's presence and begging them" The word "and" is superfluous. Use a comma instead.

Edited by MichaelKatsuro on Sep 7th 2021 at 2:48:56 AM

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#14831: Sep 7th 2021 at 2:48:48 AM

Melinda: "unloaded" should be "isn't loaded". To unload a gun is to remove the bullets from it.

"due to impressing the clown" This should be "by impressing the clown".

"After an earthquake-ravaged Gotham City is quarantined and all disaster relief is discontinued, most of the city's upper class flee beforehand." Which is it—after or beforehand?

Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#14832: Sep 7th 2021 at 3:26:42 AM

For Nurikabe Video Games:

  • In the Ninja Jajamaru-Kun series, Kakutan, one of the Yōkai mooks, resembles a concrete-wall Nurikabe which can crack when defeated by the titular ninja.

Edited by Minorica on Sep 7th 2021 at 10:24:26 PM

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#14834: Sep 7th 2021 at 4:35:09 AM

Thanks.

Another No Man's Land One-Scene Wonder

  • Jared Manx, the death row prisoner who serves as the POV character for a story about a tsunami hitting Blackgate Prison after the earthquake, makes a big enough impression that he has a Reddit thread debating whether he is guilty or innocent.

Edited by Melinda on Sep 7th 2021 at 6:37:06 AM

jahman Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#14835: Sep 7th 2021 at 6:20:47 AM

Razputin "Raz" Aquato:

  • The Baby of the Bunch: When he enrolls in the Psychonaut Internship Program at the beginning of 2, Raz is quickly seen as the youngest in the group.

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#14836: Sep 7th 2021 at 7:34:24 AM

"When he enrolls in the Psychonaut Internship Program at the beginning of 2, Raz is quickly recognized as the youngest in the group." ("Seen as" simply means that the other characters think he's the youngest.)

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#14837: Sep 7th 2021 at 7:36:46 AM

"Jared Manx, the death row prisoner who serves as the POV character for a story about a tsunami hitting Blackgate Prison after the earthquake, makes a big enough impression that he has a Reddit thread debating whether he is guilty or innocent."

jahman Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#14838: Sep 7th 2021 at 7:36:56 AM

Isn't the word Recognized still past tense?

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#14839: Sep 7th 2021 at 7:39:16 AM

Isn't the word Recognized still past tense?
No, not in this case. "He is recognized" is present tense. It would only be the past tense if I said that he was recognized.

Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#14840: Sep 7th 2021 at 8:30:24 AM

For Looks Like She Is Enjoying It Video Games:

  • Wrestle Angels: Every time Bunny Bomber is hit by an attack from her opponent, she lets out a sound indicating arousal. It's supposed to be painful, but Bunny, also being a Ms. Fanservice, fits this trope to a "T".

Edited by Minorica on Sep 7th 2021 at 10:14:44 PM

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
Stardust120 Since: May, 2019
#14841: Sep 7th 2021 at 9:27:00 AM

Edens Zero characters

  • Cold-Blooded Torture: Three years ago, Ijuna was subjected to the cruelest and humiliation torture to Shura to the point he almost kill her.
  • Shameful Strip: According to Ijuna, Shura stripped her naked, put a leash on her and marched her through town like a dog.
  • Stockholm Syndrome: After being tortured and humiliation by Shura, she develops romantic feelings for him since she pity him because he never loved anyone nor being loved before. She believes Shura is her red string of destiny.
  • That Man Is Dead: When Laguna questioned Ijuna and thought she was dead, Ijuna tells Laguna his "Princess" he knew from the rebel army Oasis is dead.

Edited by Stardust120 on Sep 7th 2021 at 10:39:07 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#14842: Sep 7th 2021 at 10:41:26 AM

From page 593 @ElJuaco

Imagine how the young girl's parents must have reacted upon...

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#14843: Sep 7th 2021 at 10:44:28 AM

From page 593 @Wile K 209

...actually love each other so much that if they had to, <- comma they could choose...

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#14844: Sep 7th 2021 at 10:52:51 AM

From page 593 and [up] @Melinda

Plenty of ordinary citizens and non-costumed criminals...

^ "un-costumed" isn't bad English, it just doesn't sound as good.

...a mugger with courage and charm in the second issue <- no comma while deducing...

...a fedora-wearing Mafia member...

...begging them to arrive before he becomes the next "lost one" <- no comma in a way...

Edited by Arivne on Sep 7th 2021 at 10:53:13 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#14845: Sep 7th 2021 at 10:58:05 AM

[up] @Minorica

Every time Bunny Bomber is hit by an attack from her opponent, she lets out a sound indicating arousal. It's supposed to be painful, but Bunny, also being a Ms. Fanservice, fits this trope to a "T".

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#14846: Sep 7th 2021 at 11:02:41 AM

[up] @Stardust 120

Three years ago, Ijuna was subjected by Shura to the cruelest and most humiliating torture, <- comma to the point that he almost killed her.

After being tortured and humiliated by Shura, she develops romantic feelings for him since she pities him because he has never loved anyone nor been loved before. She believes Shura is her Red String of Fate.

During her torture three years earlier, when Laguna questioned Ijuna and thought she was dead, Ijuna told him that the "Princess" he knew from the rebel army oasis was dead.

^ I'm assuming that this example occurs during the torture three years earlier. If it didn't, all of the verbs should be present tense (questions, thinks, is, tells, knows, is).

^ If the rebel army is named Oasis (the sentence isn't clear), please change it to "the Oasis rebel army".

Edited by Arivne on Sep 7th 2021 at 11:11:05 AM

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#14847: Sep 7th 2021 at 11:24:57 AM

Here is an example for Warhammer: Age of Sigmar that I would appreciate someone look at if they get the time.

Weird Sun: Hysh, the Realm of Light, naturally produces a radiant light so bright that it acts as the primary source of illumination for the other realms, with the cycle of day and night for these realms caused by Hysh’s twin, Ulgu the Realm of Shadow, eclipsing its light.

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#14848: Sep 7th 2021 at 12:18:03 PM

[up] It's a bit vague. What does "realm" mean in this context?

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#14849: Sep 7th 2021 at 12:34:45 PM

[up]The Age of Sigmar multiverse, known as the Cosmos Arcane, consists of eight realms (Aqdhy, Ghyran, Ghur, Chamon, Shyish, Ulgu, Hysh, and Azyr). Note: realm is only ever capitalized when used as part of the name of each realms title or their colective name, the Mortal Realms.

Would the following be better?

  • Weird Sun: Hysh, the Realm of Light, naturally produces a radiant light so bright that it acts as the primary source of illumination for the other realms of the Cosmos Arcane, with the cycle of day and night for these realms caused by Hysh’s twin, Ulgu the Realm of Shadow, eclipsing its light.

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#14850: Sep 7th 2021 at 12:54:09 PM

I'd change it thusly:

"...Cosmos Arcane. The cycle of day and night for these realms is caused by..."


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