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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#13026: Jun 28th 2021 at 10:20:54 AM

From page 520 and [up] @Melinda

The crossroads claimed the soul of the Price siblings' grandfather...

...but spares his life in exchange for a bribe bigger than the bounty on him.

...exploiting the minor bounty...Bar-Kooda's crew, <- comma even...

...even though the bounty is on Toxus alone and not them, <- comma Fett mocks them for it.

He changes his mind and tries to call Boba off upon discovering that his wife is pregnant, but he can't reach him.

^ Why would Boba's wife being pregnant make the son-in-law try to cancel the contract? <grin>

^ Putting "his wife" after Boba's name makes it look like the "his" is referring to Boba.

^ Try "After he finds out that his wife is pregnant, he changes his mind and tries to call Boba off, but he can't reach him."

...and then poison his sandwich, <- comma but is interrupted both times.

Gorga angrily yells that he's fired, <- comma but later rehires him...

Edited by Arivne on Jun 28th 2021 at 11:19:05 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#13027: Jun 28th 2021 at 10:26:09 AM

From page 521 @Fate Stay Who

Episode 7 reveals that Amber...hint about her...anger about him...

Edited by Arivne on Jun 28th 2021 at 10:29:50 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#13028: Jun 28th 2021 at 10:29:22 AM

From page 521 @Sugar Butterfly 432

Many of her scenes have her eating ramen noodles.

She has red hair and red eyes.

Edited by Arivne on Jun 28th 2021 at 10:30:00 AM

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000)
#13029: Jun 28th 2021 at 10:45:04 AM

Late, but Wile K: That looks more like an Amateur Film-Making Plot example to me.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#13030: Jun 28th 2021 at 11:07:29 AM

From page 521 @Bubblepig

Like Jepoy, Ana is one ...She later comes back to aid Lily by...be her in order to ...join her revenge plan after she...

...identity, <- comma but...short later on when...

...won't get exposed by the Ardientes. However, <- comma as Lily told...

When Emilia confronts Ivy to try to reveal her identity...

Diego's best friend, <- comma and ...for Emilia to...when she bribes her...

Nimfa has a crush on Diego, <- comma who's in love with Lily.

She tries to tell...with him, <- comma but he refuses...

She becomes Emilia's...accepts her offer. <- period She does so in order to...

Her unrequited love for Diego is one of the reasons why she works for Emilia.

^ You said that a desire for wealth was also involved.

She is Prianka's housekeeper, <- comma who...Prianka dies of cancer.

A rich woman's housekeeper, <- comma who shows kindness toward and genuinely...

^ As written, it's not clear who shows the kindness, the housekeeper or the rich woman.

...Jepoy, and Ana. <- period She adopts them as her own children...

...he tied her neck to the stairs to make it look like she hanged herself.

...by Arnaldo, <- comma who then made it look like she committed suicide.

Edited by Arivne on Jun 28th 2021 at 11:08:34 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#13031: Jun 28th 2021 at 11:15:58 AM

From page 521 @Kittystyler

Goh met a friend named Horace when he was younger, <- comma but believed...

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#13032: Jun 28th 2021 at 12:53:58 PM

For Characters.Victorious Jade West:

  • Deuteragonist: Jade gets the most character development of anyone on the show after Tori and is the character with the second most focus plot wise. The two’s rivalry is a throwline through out the show from the first to last episodes and their dynamic is the only one that really changes during the show’s run. Said rivalry also drives the plot of several episodes and gets more focus than their other relationships. Even when not directly involved with Tori’s plot she often gets the B plot, usually through her relationship problems with Beck.

Any corrections?

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miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#13033: Jun 28th 2021 at 1:17:03 PM

For Joker's character page in Batman: The Brave and the Bold

  • Adaptational Badass: Joker in the comics is often a Non-Action Big Bad who goes down quite easily to actual super powered enemies. In the show, Joker is a legitimate Badass Normal who can fight and defeat genuine DC powerhouses like Wonder Woman and Aquaman with just his guile, gadgets and fighting style.

  • Badass Normal: Joker has no powers of his own but with his intelligence and various tricks and gadgets is able to fight and even beat various super-powered foes.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Bubblepig Rei from Tokyo (Apprentice) Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Avenger09 Since: May, 2014
#13035: Jun 28th 2021 at 3:26:58 PM

Not sure what trope this qualities for or if it's YMMV but I thought it was interesting.

Project Wingman

  • Expy: As pointed out here Crimson 1 can be considered one of Cpt. Walker, but from an opposing perspective. Like Walker Crimson committed numerous terrible actions all while convincing himself that he's the hero, that he was driven to these atrocities by others, where they differ is Crimson fully embraces his self delusion, while Walker always had a part of him that was aware of the truth in the form of a hallucination of Col. Konrad.

Edited by Avenger09 on Jun 29th 2021 at 5:54:29 PM

FateStayWho Since: Jul, 2016
#13036: Jun 28th 2021 at 4:35:59 PM

@Tropers/Arivne. Thanks.

Invincible (2021)

  • Ass Pull: Episode 7 reveals that Amber had known Mark was Invincible for weeks. There was no prior hint hint about her knowing this. In fact, her anger about him disappearing in Episode 6 gave the implication she did NOT know he was Invincible.

Stardust120 Since: May, 2019
#13037: Jun 28th 2021 at 5:31:40 PM

I Guess I Became the Mother of the Great Demon King's 10 Children in Another World

  • Year Outside, Hour Inside: After Akari, along with her six children safety transport back to her world, it is revealed she was gone for only three days a while she was in Abilfia for three months.
  • Uncertain Doom: It was unknown if Gran's father Shinichiro, was alive or not ever since his mother Delnier, was captured by the humans. It was later reveal by Queen Ciel that she make Shinichiro "disappear", it makes Delnier believe she murder her husband. However, after Akari return to her own world, it is reveal that Shinichiro is alive and wasn't dead, but he has lost his memories from his time in Abilfia.

Tales of Crestoria Characters

  • Child Soldiers: In Crestoria, Lloyd was a child soldier for the Order of Totalis and the sole purpose to assassinate the Chosen, Colette. He tried to kill her by pushing her off a cliff, but failed and he was severed injured from his head which results of him loses all of his memories and become different person.
  • The Last of These Is Not Like the Others : Lutesse is the only antagonist who doesn't appear in the main story nor being one of the original characters from the previous Tales title games.
  • Redemption Equals Death: After being convince by Lloyd that he will find a way for both humans, half-elves, and elves to live together, her first and last act of kindness towards Lloyd by sacrificing herself to protect him from the giant monster.

mariovsonic999 Since: Feb, 2012
#13038: Jun 28th 2021 at 6:24:06 PM

Another idea for Fire Emblem - Character Classes.

  • Gold-Colored Superiority: Gold Knights in Gaiden and Radiant Dawn are superior to the Paladin class, as they are the third-tier advanced class in the Cavalier line. In Radiant Dawn, Blade and Axe Paladins class change into Gold Knights, while Lance and Bow Paladins class change into Silver Knights instead.

Edited by mariovsonic999 on Jun 28th 2021 at 6:24:42 AM

Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#13039: Jun 28th 2021 at 6:25:03 PM

Thanks Arivne. I've already made those posts but will go back and edit them.

Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#13040: Jun 28th 2021 at 7:59:13 PM

@ Ben 10 S 3 E 11 The Return

  • Chain Pain: The Batman Cold Open has Ben going after several prisoners who hijack their bus during transport. One of them uses their discarded shackles to fight back and does so pretty effectively.
@ Warm Bodies
  • Alternate Character Interpretation: Does Grigio really believe (correctly or incorrectly) that his city is all that's left of humanity in the entire world, or is it a lie maintained for morale or control?
  • Author's Saving Throw: The omission of the scene where R briefly relapses inside of the human city and kills a sentry is pretty well-received and fits in better with the tone and plot of the story.
  • Awesome Music: R is a big music buff and there are quite a few Love Theme moments, so the film has a pretty good soundtrack which seems to play at all the right moments for good emotional impact. Some examples are "Missing You," "Patience", "Hungry Heart", and "Yamaha".
  • Nightmare Fuel: The vicious Boneys (who have torn off their skin to expose the bones beneath) can be pretty creepy at times when they're threatening M or hunting for R and Julie.
  • One-Scene Wonder: Chris Cavener and Christian Paul are pretty memorable as unnamed soldiers who fight alongside the cured zombies during the climax.
    Soldier: Who the hell do we shoot?
    M: This asshole.
  • Signature Scene: M and the other zombies at the airport regaining their emotions and humanity due to R's example is one of the most iconic moments of the movie, even without featuring either member of the Official Couple.
@ Warm Bodies

The way Nora says she's glad Julie is back is surprisingly warm and deep despite the surface simplicity of the comment. The fact that in the book they started out on opposite sides of a Love Triangle also helps.

  • R takes Julie for a nice drive around the airport when the other zombies aren't around.

@ Death, Lies, and Treachery

  • Get Out!: In his first scene, Fett chases a fugitive into a bar and kills him. The bartender makes it clear that he's unwelcome.
    '''Bartender: You've done your killer's work, Boba Fett. Get out.
  • Take Me Instead: When Gorga sees Ry-Kooda trying to kill his pregnant wife, he tries to take responsibility for killing Ry-Kooda's brother and turn the killer's attention toward himself.
    Gorga: Unhand her! She is innocent. She is with huttlet. Please! Take me, not her!
  • Tiny Guy, Huge Girl: When Wim Magwit stands on a circus podium and wears a pointy gnome hat, he's still shorter than his Big Beautiful Woman wife.
@ Death, Lies, and Treachery
  • Wim Magwit begins his magic act for the pirates by juggling cards. When one pirate boos, he stops, but two cards remain hovering in the air.
    Magwit: What—you won't come? He's hurt your feelings? You won't come back till he says he's sorry?
    Pirate: It ain't natural.
    Heckler: I'm not apologizin' to no cards.
    Bar-Kooda: (hitting the heckler in the face with a beer mug) You'll do what you're told.
  • When Gorga proposes to Anachro, he tells her father, "I assure you, my intentions are entirely honorable— as honorable as a Hutt can manage."
  • Gorga's attempted Big Damn Heroes rescue of Anachro in Murder Most Foul hits a snag when his bodyguards turn out to be red shirts and his majordomo turns out to be a Non-Action Guy.
    Gorga: Guards! What's the matter with you? You dare die on me?
    Anachro: Gorga! Oh, Gorga, help me. GORGA!
    Gorga: Ding! Don't just stand there, do something!
    Ding: Yes sir.
    Ding runs away and hides.
    Gorga: I didn't mean that! Come back here! Ding!

@ A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors Ensemble Dark Horse

  • Fanfic Fuel: The unseen, briefly mentioned former Westin Hills patient who cut off his eyelids to stay awake attracts a decent amount of speculation regarding his unclear ultimate fate and just what Freddy did to make him that scared of going to sleep.

Edited by Melinda on Jun 29th 2021 at 4:54:58 AM

SugarButterfly432 Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#13041: Jun 28th 2021 at 8:33:03 PM

Pokémon: Roses of the Garden

Adrien

A young boy who Cain took in as his ward. According to his debut chapter, Adrien has a rare allergy that causeses his skin to be sensitive that makes him to itch.


  • Enemy to All Living Things: It's mention by Rosalind that Adrien hates Pokémon and can't stand being in the same room with them.
  • Parental Abandonment: It's unknown what happened to his parents that led to him to become the young ward of someone like Cain.

Bubblepig Rei from Tokyo (Apprentice) Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
#13042: Jun 29th 2021 at 1:14:50 AM

@ Wildflower (2017)

About Atty. Dante Cruz character file

Dante is a lawyer who is Lily's father and Camia's husband. He and his family moved to Poblacion Ardiente to start a new life. He is suspicious that this province has a low crime rate. When his wife Camia tells him about Raul attempting to rape her, he files a charge against him but then he died of poisoning making it looked like he had a heart attack. His death was the start of Lily's revenge.
  • Tampering with Food and Drink: How he died. Specifically, he was given a poisoned coffee by his partner (who is unaware that Emila put something in a drink) and got killed when he got hit with poison while driving which lead to the car crash.
  • Plot-Triggering Death: His death in hands of the Ardientes is what leads to Lily's exact revenge on the Ardientes family to seek justice for him and Camia.

About Damian Cruz (Spoiler Warning) character file

Dante's twin brother and Lily's uncle. A criminal who is actually the real Jaguar who used Raul as a decoy as part of a plan by Natalie. He is in love with his brother's wife Camia who's not aware of his identity as the real Jaguar.
  • Backup Twin: After Danter died in the first few episodes, Damian shows up serval episodes later as the real Jaguar and later Camia's Love Interest.
  • Doppelgänger Replacement Love Interest: He has feelings for Camia after his twin brother's death. Camia later reciprocates her feeling to him and they start dating. They get married at the end.
  • Polar Opposite Twins: Dante is a kind person and a lawyer while Darmian is a criminal who becomes a masked crime boss named Jaguar.

About Venus (Spoiler Warning)

Helena's adopted daughter who shows up near the end of the series to torture Julio as a payback.
  • '50s Hair: Like Helena/Red Dragon, she spots a pin-up hairdo.
  • Cold-Blooded Torture: Her method of torturing Juilo is putting a blowtorch in his mouth.
  • Kick The Son Of A Bitch: Her torturing Juilo by using blowtorch seems kinda cruel but given the fact that Julio is a Corrupt Politician and a mass-murderer, he has it coming.
  • Lady in Red: Just like Red Dragon, she wears a revealing red dress.
  • Last Episode, New Character: She only introduced in the last episode near the end.
  • Parental Abandonment: Her foster mother Helena abandoned her when she found her real daughter Emilia.
  • Real-Life Relative: Helena/ Red Dragon's adopted daughter is played by Zsa Zsa Padilla's real daughter Karylle.
  • Walking Spoiler: In fact, she exists as Red Dragon's adopted daughter and is the one who finishes off Julio as a payback instead of Lily is a huge spoiler.

"Now it's starting to feel like a game!"
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#13043: Jun 29th 2021 at 8:21:33 AM

[up] @Bullman

Jade gets the most character development of anyone on the show after Tori, <- comma and...focus plot-wise. The two’s rivalry is a throwline throughout the...episodes, <- comma and...Even when not directly involved with Tori’s plot, <- comma she often gets the B plot, usually...

^ What is a "throwline"?

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#13044: Jun 29th 2021 at 8:24:25 AM

[up] @miraculous

Joker has no powers of his own, <- comma but with his intelligence and various tricks...

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#13045: Jun 29th 2021 at 8:37:35 AM

[up] @Stardust 120

After Akari <- no comma and her...days, <- comma a while...

...Shinichiro <- no comma was...Delnier <- no comma was...later revealed by...she made Shinichiro "disappear", which made Delnier believe she murdered her...Akari returns to...is revealed that S...but that he...

...Totalis whose sole purpose was to...and suffered a severe head injury which resulted in him losing all...and becoming a different person.

Lutesse is the only antagonist who doesn't appear in the main story and is not one...

After being convinced by...for both humans, half-elves, and elves ...she performs an act...

^ "Both" is used to refer to two things, not three or more.

Edited by Arivne on Jun 29th 2021 at 8:37:50 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#13046: Jun 29th 2021 at 8:53:21 AM

[up] @Melinda

R is a big music buff <- no comma and there are quite a few Love Theme moments...

The vicious <- no comma Boneys (who have torn off their skins to expose...

The fact that in the book <- no comma they started out on opposite sides...

When Fett chases a man into a bar and kills him in his first scene, the bartender...

^ In whose first scene, Fett's or the man's? If it's Fett's:

^ "In his first scene, Fett chases a man into a bar and kills him. The bartender'''...

...hitting the heckler in the face with a beer mug...

When Gorga proposes to Anachro, he tells her father, "I assure you, my intentions are entirely honorable— as honorable as a Hutt can manage.

^ This needs a closing quote symbol.

I didn't mean that! Come back here! Ding!

The unseen, <- comma briefly mentioned former Westin Hills patient...

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#13047: Jun 29th 2021 at 8:59:46 AM

[up] @Sugar Butterfly 432

...Adrien has a rare allergy that causes his skin to be sensitive and makes him to itch.

It's mentioned by Rosalind mentions that Adrien hates Pokémon...

It's unknown what happened to his parents that led to him becoming the young...

Edited by Arivne on Jun 29th 2021 at 9:02:31 AM

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#13048: Jun 29th 2021 at 9:13:19 AM

Thank you arivne

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#13049: Jun 29th 2021 at 9:18:18 AM

[up] @Bubblepig

He is suspicious about this province's has a low crime rate. ...then dies of poisoning, <- comma making it look like...

How he died. Specifically, He is given a poisoned coffee...in it) and is killed by the poison while driving, <- comma causing a car crash.

His death at the hands...Lily's exact revenge...

He is in love with his brother's wife Camia, <- comma who's not aware...

...shows up several episodes later as the real Jaguar and eventually becomes Camia's...

Camia later reciprocates his feelings for her and they start dating.

Dante is a kind person and a lawyer, <- comma while Darmian is a criminal...

Helena's adopted daughter, <- comma who...as a payback.

Like Helena/Red Dragon, she sports a pin-up hairdo.

Her torturing Julio by using a blowtorch seems kinda cruel, <- comma but...

She is only introduced near the end of the last episode.

The fact that she is''' Red Dragon...as a payback...

Edited by Arivne on Jun 29th 2021 at 9:23:28 AM

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#13050: Jun 29th 2021 at 9:33:17 AM

Arivne: I meant through line. How's this?

  • Deuteragonist: Jade gets the most character development of anyone on the show after Tori, and is the character with the second most focus plot-wise. The two’s rivalry is a through line throughout the show from the first to last episodes, and their dynamic is the only one that really changes during the show’s run. Said rivalry also drives the plot of several episodes and gets more focus than their other relationships. Even when not directly involved with Tori’s plot she often gets the B plot, usually through her relationship problems with Beck.

Edited by Bullman on Jun 29th 2021 at 11:58:27 AM

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