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This thread is for tropers who have trouble with English and would like some help with the crazy grammar of this crazy language.

Write down what you wish to edit on the wiki. If you have been suspended from editing, another troper might be kind enough to edit for you after your suggestions have been corrected.

The thread is for help and feedback on your own suggested edits.

If you want help correcting other people's edits (e.g., if you find a page which seems to have grammar problems but want a second opinion, or you don't feel able to fix it by yourself) then that's off-topic here, but we have a separate Grammar Police cleanup thread that can provide assistance.

Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM

mariovsonic999 Since: Feb, 2012
#12976: Jun 26th 2021 at 9:36:22 PM

Would this revision suffice?

  • Hunter of Monsters: Yoda hunts down monsters that attacks Il village, due to the village settling close to the monster-infested Tower of Morse. One of his skills is Anti-Evil/Slayer, which makes him efficient in fighting monsters.
  • Master Swordsman: He is renowned as Lieberia's greatest swordmaster and even Vega has heard rumors of him. He is a practitioner of the Dragon Saint/Astra skill, a technique passed down by his Zoan ancestors.

Eiryu Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#12977: Jun 26th 2021 at 10:07:12 PM

Hunter of Monsters: Yoda hunts down monsters that attacks Il village, due to the village settling close to the monster-infested Tower of Morse. One of his skills is Anti-Evil/Slayer, which makes him efficient in fighting monsters.

Comma's in the wrong place in the first sentence. Maybe "Yoda hunts down monsters that attack Il village due to its location near the monster-infested Tower of Morse."

Master Swordsman: He is renowned as Lieberia's greatest swordmaster and even Vega has heard rumors of him. He is a practitioner of the Dragon Saint/Astra skill, a technique passed down by his Zoan ancestors.

Could just be "renown" actually and would sound more natural.

Edited by Eiryu on Jun 26th 2021 at 12:12:57 PM

mariovsonic999 Since: Feb, 2012
#12978: Jun 26th 2021 at 10:09:23 PM

[up]Thanks. I was struggling with the first part of the sentence to make sense of structure and clarity.

jOSEFdelaville Since: Dec, 2018
#12979: Jun 27th 2021 at 2:18:02 AM

Alright, heres a little re-write.

KonoSuba: Characters (the four main characters)

  • Chromatic Arrangement: Each of their character design puts emphasis on a color, wether it's through clothes, hair or both. Kazuma is associated with the color green, Aqua with the color blue, Darkness with the color yellow and Megumin with the color red.

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#12980: Jun 27th 2021 at 7:11:30 AM

El Juaco: You've done a very good job with your grammar—well done!—but your trope usage is wrong.

What Happened to the Mouse? is about minor characters. The stuff you're talking about counts as a Riddle for the Ages. And in either case, it's not a characterization trope.

Your Thrown Out the Airlock thing is a zero-context example. Instead of saying "this", explain what "this is".

In the last entry, instead of saying "it's not mentioned if Mitsuhirato committed harakiri after his arrest or not," I recommend saying "There's no mention of Mitsuhirato committing harakiri or dying any other way". (Assuming this is correct, of course. I like the animated show, but since my teens I stick to the comics.)

Edited by MichaelKatsuro on Jun 27th 2021 at 7:11:38 AM

jOSEFdelaville Since: Dec, 2018
#12981: Jun 27th 2021 at 8:21:08 AM

[up]I confirm that the bit about Mitsuhirato is correct.

Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#12982: Jun 27th 2021 at 8:29:27 AM

For Fond Memories That Could Have Been Video Games:

  • Genshin Impact: In Hu Tao's character story, both Big G (a boy who died several years ago) and his friends, regret that they couldn't watch the Lantern Rite festival together when Big G was still alive. At the end, they decide to reunite and then move on and Big G goes to the Afterlife forever.
For Spectacular Spinning Video Games:
  • I=MGCM: Ultimate Magica Lilly's "Devil Grinder" skill has her throwing her magical weapon and then spin into a giant wheel of fire and sweep the opponents horizontally.

Edited by Minorica on Jun 28th 2021 at 1:26:12 AM

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#12983: Jun 27th 2021 at 9:08:01 AM

From page 519 @Melinda

What Does He See in Her?: Orion...provide an (initially)...surly loner El, <- comma when...

...but they're also quick-fisted adventurers...

^ They're = They are. Their = possessive: "The people picked up their laundry".

Most of Vince's honorary uncles are only ever called by their nicknames...

...hitman Uncle Pampers <- no comma while...that he earns...

The brothers each jokingly claim...money, <- comma while...

The guy faces his fate with more dignity than most examples of the trope, though.

...by sitting in a dark corner <- no comma and...searching for her, and eventually...

Jack Anderson spends the entirety of the 60th Hunger Games...pushes his ally and...

...the other tributes freeze to death...his victory, <- comma when...

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#12984: Jun 27th 2021 at 9:08:38 AM

In Hu Tao's character story, both Big G (a boy who died several years ago) and his friends, regret that they couldn't watch the Lantern Rite festival when Big G was still alive. At the end, they decide to reunite and then move on and Big G goes to the Afterlife forever.

(If they've already re-united once, and this is the third time they're uniting, then you can keep the "once more".)

"then spin into a giant wheel of fire and sweep the opponents horizontally." The grammar's fine otherwise, but I don't know what it means to sweep people horizontally.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#12985: Jun 27th 2021 at 9:19:08 AM

From page 519 @Stardust 120

...left arm from overusing the...Sword (a weapon...out) so much that it...

...refuses to call Azibělpher <- no comma "father" and...makes sense, <- comma since...

...depending on his mood. The tips of his hair turn pink when he's flustered after being complimented on how cool he is and how he looks in a suit.

...is a human turned angel...she's an automaton created by elves.

...raised by a dwarf...raised by an elf...her bodyguard, <- comma since she hates him...

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#12986: Jun 27th 2021 at 9:25:26 AM

From page 519 @Fate Stay Who

...a secret <- no comma (until they are stolen), <- parentheses which...kill, <- comma they...powerful enemies, <- comma it...

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#12987: Jun 27th 2021 at 9:28:25 AM

[up] @Minorica

...Big G (a boy who died several years ago) and his friends <- no comma regret that...

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#12988: Jun 27th 2021 at 9:39:41 AM

From page 515 @Bubblepig

...red clothes (such as a dress) when she's appearing as the Red Dragon or at an event.

^ A dress is considered "clothes".

...holds a grudge ...Julio, <- comma who's her ex-husband. Although It seems...allies <- no period until Helena betrays Julio and attempts to have her minions to bury him alive.

...and a Corrupt Politician like her...she had a...Julio has been ...Raul has been...desperate to become Julio's equal. Until She finds...never cared for her (even though...bond together) <- parentheses and...

Edited by Arivne on Jun 27th 2021 at 9:40:46 AM

Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#12989: Jun 27th 2021 at 11:30:53 AM

Thanks. I'll edit and add those when I have time. Here's some more stuff that I thought of earlier today but didn't think it was fair to add to such an already long post.

@ Halo He's Just Hiding

  • Some people who dislike the Dropped a Bridge on Him deaths of Black Team in Halo: Escalation like to think that it's different characters wearing similar armor who die.
  • In Halo: First Strike, some fans like to think that Spartans Anton and Li and gunship pilot Polaski were only separated from the others during their apparent flash vaporization.
@ Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash @ Dick Tracy
  • The Summers sisters spend several strips being held prisoner by the Brow, who keeps one sister in a torture device while the other is running errands for him to motivate efficiency. They get an epic The Dog Bites Back moment when they smuggle in a gun, shoot the Brow's accomplices and then put The Brow into his own torture device, head first, before they race to alert the authorities. The Brow does manage to escape and seek revenge, but it's still pretty cool.
@ Beau Geste
  • Locked Room Mystery:
    • The Blue Water sapphire disappears in a room where nobody is except the six relatives of its owner when the lights go out for about twenty seconds. No one else could have entered the room without letting light in by opening the door.
    • When a relief column arrives at Fort Zindernuef, they see scores of dead soldiers propped up on the walls, and then someone shoots at them from inside the fort. One legionnaire enters the fort with a grappling hook but never reappears, causing his commander to climb after him. In addition to the bodies slumped against the wall, the commander finds a sergeant who was stabbed to death, and Beau Geste, who was laid out peacefully after the sergeant was stabbed and is holding a letter confessing to the theft of a jewel. The commander searches the fort and finds no sign of the scout he sent or whoever shot at him. When he goes to open the gate for his men, Beau and the sergeant's bodies and the letter all have disappeared by the time he gets back. Then as soon as they've left the fort, someone still inside sets fire to it. The commander is left musing that his superiors will think he's crazy when he describes everything that happened. The climax reveals that the man who shot at him, John Geste, went over the wall on the opposite side of the fort right after shooting at the approaching legionnaires, as he wants to desert. The scout who first entered the fort is John and Beau's brother Digby, who found the letter and then slumped over the wall, pretending to be one of the dead soldiers, when his superior entered the fort. When his superior went to open the gate, Digby dragged the bodies to a room the commander had already searched to give Beau a Viking Funeral and prevent him from being posthumously branded as a thief. After setting the fire, he then escaped over the opposite wall himself.
@ The Lost Fleet
    General Wallach 
A ground force general stationed at Unity.
  • Inter-Service Rivalry: Wallach discusses the traditional army-navy rivalry and amusedly notes that it kept the ground forces from getting involved in the dark fleet fiasco that got many naval officers arrested.
@ NCIS
  • He's Just Hiding: In a show with lots of geopolitical intrigue and a few Death Faked for You scenes it's hard not to hope that Emily Forenell might have had her death faked for some reason.

Edited by Melinda on Jun 27th 2021 at 2:46:26 AM

Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#12990: Jun 27th 2021 at 11:53:42 AM

@ Familial Foe

  • InCryptid:
    • The crossroads claimed the soul of the Price sibling's grandfather a long time ago, and their grandmother has been on a Roaring Rampage of Revenge ever since. Other family members also get involved sometimes, and the crossroads is happy to try and strike back at them.
    • In That Ain't Witchraft, James Smith's maternal ancestors have been dying as soon as their child turns 12 for many generations due to the Exact Words of a deal their forebearer made with the crossroads. James is out to destroy the crossroads even before learning this after they abduct or kill his girlfriend when she tries to make a deal to end his Hereditary Curse.

Edited by Melinda on Jun 27th 2021 at 2:59:14 AM

mariovsonic999 Since: Feb, 2012
#12991: Jun 27th 2021 at 11:54:47 AM

Would this example be sufficient?

  • Hunter of Monsters: Yoda hunts down monsters that attacks Il village due to its location near the monster-infested Tower of Morse. One of his skills is Anti-Evil/Slayer, which makes him efficient in fighting monsters.
  • Master Swordsman: His renown as Lieberia's greatest swordmaster is well-known that even Vega heard rumors of him. He is a practitioner of the Dragon Saint/Astra skill, a technique passed down by his Zoan ancestors.

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#12992: Jun 27th 2021 at 12:08:34 PM

Melinda: The way you use trope names as adjectives despite those names not being adjectives is a bit clunky. Also, I don't know what a "stereotypical Final Girl outfit" is.

You misuse Not That Kind of Doctor. That one's specifically about medical doctors and characters thought to be one. Remember to read the trope descriptions; you can't just make educated guesses.

"then put The Brow into his own torture device, head first, as they race to alert the authorities" I think you mean "after which they race", since I'm guessing these things didn't happen simultaneously.

"The Blue Water sapphire disappears in a room where nobody is except the six relatives of its owner when the lights go out for about twenty seconds. No one else could have entered the room without letting light in by opening the door.

"When a relief column arrives at Fort Zindernuef COMMA they see scores of dead soldiers propped up on the wallsCOMMA and then someone shoots at them from inside the fort.

In addition to the bodies slumped against the wall, the commander finds a sergeant who was stabbed to death, and Beau Geste, who was laid out peacefully after the sergeant was stabbed and is holding a letter confessing to the theft of a jewel."

"When he goes to open the gate for his men, Beau and the sergeant's bodies and the letter all disappear." So do we see them fading away, or does it happen some other way?

"...when he describes everything that happened. The man who..." This makes it sound like the spoilered things are what he's going to describe. It'd be good to add something like "What he doesn't know is that..."

"as he wants to dessert." What kind of dessert? Apple pie, ice cream, chocolate cake, or all three maybe? grin (Seriously, though, one S is enough. Two S makes for SS, and you don't want to be some kind of Nazi, do you? Of course you don't!)

"he then escapes" should be "he then escaped", since the rest of the spoiler-tagged stuff is written in the past tense.

Inter-Service Rivalry is misspelled.

"it's hard not to hope that could be invoked again" This lacks context.

Edited by MichaelKatsuro on Jun 27th 2021 at 12:08:41 PM

Stardust120 Since: May, 2019
#12993: Jun 27th 2021 at 12:25:01 PM

I Guess I Became the Mother of the Great Demon King's 10 Children in Another World

  • Year Outside, Hour Inside: After Akari along with her six children safety transport back to her world, it is reveal she was gone for only three days a while she was in Abilfia for three months.
  • Uncertain Doom: It was unknown Gran's father Shinichiro, was alive or not ever since his mother Delnier, was captured by the humans. It was later reveal by Queen Ciel that she make Shinichiro "disappear", it make Delnier believe she murder her husband. However, after Akari return to her own world, it is reveal that Shinichiro is alive and wasn't dead, but he has lost his memories from his time in Abilfia.

Tales of Crestoria Characters

  • Child Soldiers: In Crestoria, Lloyd was a child soldier for the Order of Totalis and the sole purpose to assassinate the Chosen, Colette. He tried to kill her by pushing her off a cliff, but failed and he was severed injured to his head which results of him loses all of his memories.
  • The Last of These Is Not Like the Others : Lutesse is the only antagonist who doesn't appear in the main story nor being one of the original characters from the previous Tales title games.
  • Redemption Equals Death: After being convince by Lloyd will find a way for both humans, half-elves, and elves to live together, her first and last act of kindness towards Lloyd by sacrificing herself to protect him from the giant monster.

Edited by Stardust120 on Jun 27th 2021 at 12:34:13 PM

Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#12994: Jun 27th 2021 at 12:41:06 PM

I apologize for what seems to have been a truly incompetent and frustrating round of stuff for you to edit. Nice witticism with the SS correction.

The reason I didn't say "what he doesn't know" or something like that was because I was trying to lower my word count.

I'll make most of those edits later, when I have a lot more time, but here's what I'll do for The ones needing actual restructuring and not just adding a comma or fixing a typo.

stereotypically conservative Final Girl wardrobe for the Adaptational Skimpiness one.

all disappear by the time he gets back for the comment asking if se see the bodies disappear for the Locked Room Mystery.

it's hard not to hope that Emily Forenell might have had her death faked for some reason. for He's Just Hiding.

And here's one more thing to edit at a later date.

@ Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash

  • Too Dumb to Live: Bree and her friends having sex inside Jason Voorhes' abandoned childhood home as some act of thrill-seeking or spite toward the killer screams Death By Sex way more than any other victim in the franchise. They don't even have the excuse of thinking Jason was dead at the time.

Edited by Melinda on Jun 27th 2021 at 2:59:51 AM

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#12995: Jun 27th 2021 at 1:03:37 PM

I'd recommend "all have disappeared by the time he gets back".

"They don't even have the excuse of thinking Jason was dead at the time."

Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#12996: Jun 27th 2021 at 1:41:29 PM

Thanks again. If I ever do get vetted to make posts without using this thread (something which looks less likely today than it did, say, two weeks ago) then I feel like I'll probably need to volunteer to be another editor for this thread to make up for all of the help I've gotten.

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#12997: Jun 27th 2021 at 1:58:36 PM

[up] Don't worry, dude. We know you're not a Nazi at all, and that it was just a typo. smile

mariovsonic999 Since: Feb, 2012
#12998: Jun 27th 2021 at 3:02:36 PM

Here's an idea for TearRing Saga.

Renee

  • Damsel in Distress: During her search for Merial, she is kidnapped by Maerchen when he attacked her ship. When Holmes attacks Maerchen's ship, he and Attrom try to rescue her, but she falls overboard after she escaped with Krishna's help.
  • Teleportation: She is the only unit who can wield Warp, a staff that teleports another unit to any traversable space in the map.

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#12999: Jun 27th 2021 at 3:05:20 PM

"after she escapes with Krishna's help."

"traversable space on the map."

mariovsonic999 Since: Feb, 2012
#13000: Jun 27th 2021 at 3:14:42 PM

[up]Thank you. Sometimes, I often can't decide on using present or past-tense when it involves something that happened before an event. The other is hindsight.


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