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I recommend Gorn and its subtropes. Not just as an answer for your question, but in general.
From page 518 @Melinda
Red shoots the Game & Fish Land Rover...have it mounted. Red
^ There needs to be something after "Red".
It gets added points for the chilling Mood Whiplash of the scene as the mole's identity...
Raia appears in barely half of the episodes, <- comma but rivals some...
Villain of the Week characters Goggles...favorites, <- comma who...Big Bad, <- comma while...
Colonel Kramer may be a bad guy, but it's hard not to be impressed...
...are viewed with a disturbing amount of disdain and a cynical belief...
...Krypton, <- comma when...anyone who they dislike.
The first three movies take place over a few days, but The Ultimate Race <- no period only...
...(such as keeping his men out of prison)....other criminals whom he has personal beefs with, and he's killed by a loyal subordinate whom he betrayed after being exposed.
^ I know it seems that "who" should be used (even most native English speakers would), and it's extremely unlikely that anyone would report you for bad English for using "who". However, "whom" is grammatically correct, as explained here
.
...competitors open parenthesis -> (save for Lyle and Candy, who just make out with each other)...
Edited by Arivne on Jun 26th 2021 at 8:18:43 AM
From page 518 @Fate Stay Who
Olaf and Kanbei in particular stand out, <- comma since as antagonists...
Edited by Arivne on Jun 26th 2021 at 8:18:55 AM
Here's an idea for Legends of Runeterra.
- Rock Monster: The Guardians of the Ancient expansion features Targon's terrestrial creatures, like Earth Elemental
and Blue Sentinel
. While Malphite is the added champion representing Targon, he is actually an Ixtali earth construct created outside of Targon.
Edited by mariovsonic999 on Jun 25th 2021 at 11:50:18 AM
Revised thanks to
Michael Katsuro and
Arivne.
Redemption Promotion under Video Games.
- The COs who initially oppose Orange Star in Advanced Wars are far more competent when they are allied with Orange Star (and controlled by the player) than when they and Orange Star are enemies. Olaf and Kanbei in particular stand out, since, as antagonists, they were written as bumbling idiots. When they two of them are among the game's heroes in Black Hole Rising, Olaf is instead a responsible and effective leader instead. Kanbei is still an idiot in matters unrelated to combat, but on the battlefield he is a skilled general as well as one of the strongest COs in the game.
- Nightmare Fuel: The primary target, Komari Vosa, herself. Her mind broken long ago by the Bando Gora, she's since become the cult's deranged leader, after ritually executing her fellow Jedi captives, and A full blown Soft-Spoken Sadist, if it doesn't incite another kind of reaction every word she says will likely chill you to the bone with how they're delivered.
Vosa: "Kill them, kill them now... bring me their bodies..."
- When Jango is captured by her Bando Gora, she oversees his torture personally, looking over his helmet she fondly reminisces over the Mandalorians she killed as a Jedi, then sadistically promising to inflict upon him the same fate she suffered.
- When Zam moves to rescue Jango, Vosa's response is merely to draw and ignite her lightsabers slowly contorting her face into a vicious snarl, waiting for the Changling to strike.
- The creepiness doesn't end when you confront her as the final boss, at the start of the mission she eerily taunts
Jango, her echoing voice seemingly coming from
- Montross' implying that he isn't just going to kill Vosa but take control of the cult as well and unleash them on the galaxy in this exchange.
Montross: Ahhh... The hunts nearly over, I can smell it. Vosa's here. Waiting for one of us to put her out of her misery. It will almost be a shame to kill her. Imagine Jango, the power to send thousands of mindless assassins, willingly to their deaths. To plunge the galaxy into anarchy.Jango Fett: Not much money in anarchy.Montross: The money means nothing! The thrill of the hunt drives me, the moment my prey begs for mercy, the moment I take his life. You know this better then anyone. We're the same you and I.Jango Fett: Now your just being mean.
Edited by Avenger09 on Jun 26th 2021 at 7:15:35 PM
@Michael Katsuro No, earth, as in the element. But otherwise, thanks.
However, I'm suspended so I can't add it, unless someone wants to add it for me.
Edited by mariovsonic999 on Jun 25th 2021 at 2:49:12 AM
2 Fixed.
Redemption Promotion under Video Games.
- The COs who initially oppose Orange Star in Advance Wars are far more competent when they are allied with Orange Star (and controlled by the player) than when they and Orange Star are enemies. Olaf and Kanbei in particular stand out, since, as antagonists, they were written as bumbling idiots. When they two of them are among the game's heroes in Black Hole Rising, Olaf is instead a responsible and effective leader instead. Kanbei is still an idiot in matters unrelated to combat, but on the battlefield he is a skilled general as well as one of the strongest COs in the game.
Edited by FateStayWho on Jun 25th 2021 at 2:54:05 AM
Thanks Arivne. I'm sorry about the Who/whom gaffe. You've directed me to that thread before, and I've read it, but somehow it just hasn't stuck yet.
@ Bullitt
- One-Scene Wonder: The hitman's driver only appears during the car chase (and in a split-second scene following Bullitt shortly beforehand), but is a key part of the movie's Signature Scene.
- Big Sister Instinct: As the seventh-highest scoring senior, Maya Wulandari can write her own ticket into any number of enclaves, but has spent her school career trying to cozy up to the Toronto enclave because admission to that group means that they'll take in her whole family and her little brother and sister will have the protection of being enclavers when they attend the schoolmance. She volunteers for the dangerous mission in the climax in exchange for admission to the Toronto enclave, which will extend to her siblings whether she survives or not.
- Jerkass Realization: Chloe's last scene in the first book has her apologizing to El for treating her so coldly earlier on and for taking the protection of her enclave for granted.
Chloe: That day Orion introduced us, I acted like all I needed to have you be my friend was let you know that I was willing to let you talk to me. Like I'm so special. But I'm not. I'm just lucky.
- Jumped at the Call: Orion has been eagerly volunteering to help kill Mals and protect his enclave since he was ten, even though his powerful mother could have exempted him from that.
- Long-Dead Badass: Sir Alfred Cooper-Browning founded and built the schoolmance in 1886 and personally led an expedition attempting to repair the scouring device to make it safe for graduating classes four years later. They completed enough repairs to save the next three years worth of graduating classes before Sir Alfred was eaten by a maw-mouth. He isn't technically dead, but he might as well be, and would be a lot happier if he was.
- Xanatos Gambit: Clarita, the valedictorian, proposes that Orion save them from the insurmountable number of Mals who are amassing to overwhelm the next graduating class by fixing the scouring equipment. If he succeeds, great, if he fails, then he won't be around to stop the seniors from sacrificing some or all of the younger students to save themselves. El quickly figures out what Clarita is doing, calls her out for it, and makes her come up with a different plan.
- ''"The greatest wizards alive can't kill maw-mouths, and they won't even try, because if you try and you don't kill it, it eats you and it keeps eating you forever. It's worse than being killed by a soul-eater and it's worse than bring grabbed by a harpy and taken to her nest to be eaten alive by her chicks and it's worse than being torn apart by kvenliks, and no one in their right mind would ever try it, no one, unless the girl you'd started dating a few months ago was going to die, her and someone you didn't even know, not even a person but just a blob of cells that had barely started dividing yet, and you stupidly cared about that enough to trade a million years of agony for theirs.—El Huggins, The Scholomance
- This Is Gonna Suck: Coach is both horrified and frustrated when he learns that 1) his students just robbed a drug dealer, 2) they used his van for the robbery and are unloading the marijuana at his gym, 3) they posted a video of the crime on YouTube, and 4) that the stolen marijuana belongs to Mickey Pearson. Those four moments are drawn out over two nonconsecutive scenes, but it's clear that he's aware of how badly this is likely to turn out from the very beginning.
@ Buffy the Vampire Slayer - Vampires
Candy Gorch
- Played By: Lee Everett
- Bare Your Midriff: Candy wears a sports bra that exposes her stomach.
- Butterface: Candy spends all of her screen time wearing form-fitting yoga pants and a sports bra but also spends all of her screen time vamped out, displaying her demonic face.
- Girly Bruiser: Candy is a decently tough vampire who nearly defeats Buffy in a fight and wears a pink feather boa and purple clothes.
- Unholy Matrimony: Candy and Lyle are Happily Married, but are also murderous, ruthless vampires whose idea of a wedding present is Candy avenging the death of Lyle's equally unsavory brother.
- True Blue Femininity: Michelle seems fairly nice and more relaxed than her opponents while campaigning for Homecoming Queen (although she's only seen campaigning for a few seconds) and wears blue in both of her scenes and the picture on her campaign flyers.
@ 30 Rock S1 E8 "The Break-Up"
- Chekhov's Lecture: Dennis gives Jack a speech about why they shouldn't go chasing 20-year-old women to feel young, commenting that half of those women are really 16. This initially seems like a sage bit of witticism, but later Liz sees Dennis get caught on Dateline cheating on Liz with a 16-year-old girl who he thought was 22.
- Darker and Edgier: Very much so. Dr Tezla is maimed in the opening scene. Two drivers undergo Unwilling Robotization (one of them apparently to the point where it destroys his old self). Nolo's brother dies in a flashback. The Wylde brothers are violently estranged, and the danger is a lot tenser. Watching Hot Wheels: World Race will not leave the average moviegoer expecting any of this.
Edited by Melinda on Jun 26th 2021 at 10:40:29 AM
Here's an idea for TearRing Saga.
Yoda
- Hunter of Monsters: He hunts down monsters that come too close to his village, due to settling near the monster-infested Tower of Morse. One of his skills is Anti-Evil/Slayer, which makes him efficient in fighting monsters.
- Master Swordsman: He is renowned as Lieberia's greatest swordmaster that even Vega heard rumors of him. He is a practitioner of the Dragon Saint/Astra skill, a technique passed down by his Zoan ancestors.
Edited by mariovsonic999 on Jun 25th 2021 at 10:04:41 AM
Animator Vs Animation
- Living Program: This animation series is about stick figures drawn in Adobe Flash becoming sentient as they are created. They live inside a computer and interact with their animator. Desktop icons, anti-viruses and videogame characters may also spontaneously become sentient.
Madness Combat: YMMV
- Common Knowledge: Fans were quick to call the giant skeleton from Expurgation a "MAG skeleton", even though nothing suggest that he's a magnified skeleton rather than being directly created as giant.
- Fanon: Tricky is often portrayed with an habit of flipping the bird in fan works, even if he never does that in any official Madness Combat works.
The I of It
- Anthropomorphic Typography: The player character is an upper-case letter I.
KonoSuba: Characters (the four main characters)
- Chromatic Arrangement: Kazuma is associated with the color green, Aqua with the color blue, Darkness with the color yellow and Megumin with the color red.
While the two...Olaf is instead a responsible and effective leader instead.
Edited by Arivne on Jun 26th 2021 at 8:18:00 AM
@Melinda
...beforehand), <- comma but...
...can write her own ticket...Toronto enclave <- no comma because...Toronto enclave, <- comma which will...
Chloe's last scene in the book...
They completed enough repairs ...
Candy avenging the death of Lyle's quarry unsavory brother.
^ The word "quarry" is not correct.
Edited by Arivne on Jun 26th 2021 at 8:39:19 AM
Thanks. I meant to say equally, not quarry.
- What Does He See in Her?: Orion and El provide an (initially) platonic version. The other students (especially the kids who grew up with Orion in New York) are stunned and baffled by how much time Orion starts spending around surly loner El, when he's spent his entire life ignoring everyone else except when acting on his Chronic Hero Syndrome. The real reason is that Orion finds all of the attention everyone else gives him unsettling and considers El's annoyance at his rescues as a sign that he can be more open with her. It takes a while for anyone else to figure this out.
Chloe: I've known him since we were born, and the only reason he knows my name is that his mom drilled him with flash cards in the second grade ... We all knew he was special, we were all grateful. But it didn't register. He wasn't being a snob or anything, he's never mean or rude. I just —didn't matter to him. Nobody ever mattered to him before. Then he talks to you once, and all of a sudden he's making excuses for following you around ... We've only been arguing about whether or not you're a maleficer who's doing something to him.
- Ensemble Dark Horse: In the second movie, Jake's fellow fighters in the Gladiator Games all have their fans, but Greco-Roman wrestler Ernest Santana, taekwando champion Tobo Casenara, and Army Rangers combat instructor Bobby Rose are particularly likable scene stealers who provide some of the franchise's most fondly remembered action scenes. Ernest and Tobo narrowly win evenly matched fights with some particularly good moves, and while Bobby loses, he puts up such a good fight that In-Universe, the crowd forces his captor to spare his life. Further helping Bobby's popularity is how he contributes a lot to the escape even with his broken bones.
- Badass Bookworm: Cody and his assistant Ted are research scientists who the government trusts to build a rocket, but they're also quick-fisted adventurers who are the logical people to go exploring with that rocket. In the first episode, they put up a fight that lasts about two minutes when some collaborators rob them, with Cody ducking swung chairs and delivering powerful right hooks even after taking several painful punches.
- In The 75 by mintjellyfish
, Kelso wins the 12th Hunger Games with a booby trap that kills a career tribute who comes after him as he eats, and then insists on finishing his meal before leaving the arena.
Twelve kills, and he cares more about lamb stew.
- Walking Shirtless Scene: The twins' shirtless, muscular chests are seen up close as they practice martial arts moves.
- Only Known by Their Nickname: Most of Vince's honorary uncles are only ever called by their nicknames (Puke, Pampers, Uncle, Big Nose, etc.)
- Villains Out Shopping: Vince is stunned to run into his father's hitman Uncle Pampers while going on a date with Kendra to a karaoke bar. Pampers then gets up on the stage and performs a Hank Williams number so skillfully that he earns roaring applause from everyone in the room, whether they normally like that kind of music or not.
- Cruel Mercy: Markoff tells a pair of captured deserters who are half-dead from exposure to the Thirsty Desert that he could have them Shot at Dawn, but he won't ... Instead he's going to let them "escape" again. He then has the pleading men forcibly removed from the fort and orders two men to follow them and keep them from drinking from any watering holes, condemning them to die of thirst.
- A Father to His Men: Lieutenant Martin lectures Markoff for mistreating the new recruits and makes a speech about the honorable side of being a legionnaire. From his sickbed, he also tries to order Markoff not to use any violence to punish two deserters.
Martin: The men must be led, not driven.
- The Friend Nobody Likes: Gussie hangs out with his adopted cousins a lot, but they view each other with mutual annoyance. Gussie is actually pleased to role-play as King Arthur's betrayer Modred when Beau is role-playing as King Arthur.
- Mistaken Confession: The brothers each jokingly claim to have the missing sapphire and make up stories about what they'll do with the money, while ducking around the issue who really does have it. Unfortunately, another legionnaire is eavesdropping on them and takes them seriously.
- Rewarded as a Traitor Deserves: Said nearly word-for-word when Markoff makes the spy who ratted out the mutiny stand guard in a tower that the raiders have a good shot at. The guy faces his fate with more dignity than most examples of the trope, though.
- The trope shows up fairly often in The Hunger Games fics.
- In The 75, by mintjellyfish
, Magdalene Shephard (who was born in Panem's last religious community and firmly believes Thou Shall Not Kill) wins the 26th Hunger Games by sitting in a dark corner and meditating for six days. The career pack kill everyone else, drive themselves crazy futilely searching for her, and eventually kill each other. Magdalene's victory and survival without lifting a finger against another human being is greeted with boos by the bloodthirsty Capitol audience.
- The End of the World: Jack Anderson spends the entirety of the 60th Hunger Games hiding in a cave. He pushes his ally and boyfriend off a cliff in an impulsive fight over the last of their food and goes into a Heroic BSoD afterward. Several days later, the Careers lose count of how many people are left alive, think they're the only ones left, and kill or mortally wound each other in the ensuing fight.
- The Victors Project
- Seeder wins the 32nd Hunger Games by running away from the Cornucopia and hunkering down in the grass with what little food she has until everyone else kills each other or starves to death, never even seeing another tribute after the first day.
- Mitt wins the 55th Hunger Games by managing to keep himself just a little warmer than everyone else as the other tributes freeze to death, one by one. The only interaction he has with any other tributes is several days before his victory, when the career pack chases him across an ice shelf. The ice breaks, and the careers all fall through or are separated from Mitt by a gaping chasm.
- Downplayed with Matty Fletcher and Berenice Equita, victors of the 46th and 68th Hunger Games. They do kill other tributes, but their final opponents take fatal falls off a cliff and into a piranha-infested river while searching for them, causing them to win without a final showdown.
- In The 75, by mintjellyfish
Edited by Melinda on Jun 27th 2021 at 2:22:34 AM
Thunderbolt Fantasy Characters
- An Arm and a Leg: Wan Jun Po loses his left arm for overused the Blaze Crystal Sword (A weapon that can burn the user from the inside out) as it turns to ash.
- Calling Parents by Their Name: Lang Wu Yao refuses call Azibělpher, father and refers him by his given name. It makes senses since he hates him for what he did to his mother before he was born.
Twisted Wonderland Characters
- Kaleidoscope Hair: At the end of Idia's SSR groovy, it shows his flaming hair change colors depending his mood. The tips of Idia's hair turns pink when he's flutters after being compliment on how cool he is and he looks in a suit.
Tales of Crestoria Characters
- Adaptation Species Change: In Symphonia, Colette is human turned angel, but in Crestoria, she's automaton created elves.
- Fantastic Racism: Lutesse, an elf, hates humans and half-elves and doesn't want her kind to live in harmony with them. Lutesse's goal is to eliminate all non-elves and create a world with only pure elves.
- Happily Adopted: Downplayed. In Symphonia, Lloyd was raised by dwarf named Dirk, but in Crestoria, he is raised by elf named Lutesse. The reason she took him in is because he wants him to protect Colette as her bodyguard since she always hate him due to being human.
Edited by Stardust120 on Jun 26th 2021 at 11:38:56 AM
- Living Program: This animation series is about stick figures drawn in Adobe Flash becoming sentient as they are created. They live inside a computer and interact with their animator. Desktop icons, anti-viruses and videogame characters may also spontaneously become sentient.
- Common Knowledge: Fans were quick to call the giant skeleton from Expurgation a "MAG skeleton", even though nothing suggests that he's a magnified skeleton rather than being directly created as giant.
- Fanon: Tricky is often portrayed with an habit of flipping the bird in fan works, even if he never does that in any official Madness Combat works.
- Anthropomorphic Typography: The player character is an upper-case letter I.
- Chromatic Arrangement: Kazuma is associated with the color green, Aqua with the color blue, Darkness with the color yellow and Megumin with the color red. ["associated with" is a bit vague...]
Edited by MichaelKatsuro on Jun 26th 2021 at 3:40:46 AM
Arivne Fixed.
Redemption Promotion under Video Games.
- The COs who initially oppose Orange Star in Advance Wars are far more competent when they are allied with Orange Star (and controlled by the player) than when they and Orange Star are enemies. Olaf and Kanbei in particular stand out, since, as antagonists, they were written as bumbling idiots. While the two of them are among the game's heroes in Black Hole Rising, Olaf is a responsible and effective leader instead. Kanbei is still an idiot in matters unrelated to combat, but on the battlefield he is a skilled general as well as one of the strongest COs in the game.
Hi fellas. It's me again. Let's have another try.
Some tropes for the Tintin characters list:
- What Happened to the Mouse?: Like with Rastapopoulos, it's unknown what the aliens may have done with Allan.
- Thrown Out the Airlock: This is what Tintin, Haddock and Calculus do to get rid of Jorgen's corpse after he accidentally shoots himself.
- Spared By Adaptation: In the Animated Adaptation of The Blue Lotus, for censorship reasons, it's not mentioned if Mitsuhirato committed harakiri after his arrest or not, so he may have lived in this version.
@Do Not Do This Cool Thing under Comic Books.
Justice League of America: Tower of Babel reveals that Batman keeps contingency plans to defeat the Justice League in case they become a danger to the world. The comic's intent is to subvert and correct Batman's Crazy-Prepared status since he keeps the plans a secret, until they were stolen, which the many League members consider a betrayal of trust. The actual plans were meant to horrify the audience, not be praised. While they are not designed to kill they still subject their targets to horrific fates (Flash outright states Batman's plan for him left him wishing for death just so his pain would end). But since the comic features Batman's plans defeating far more powerful enemies it helped give rise to the idea that Batman can defeat anybody if he has time to prepare, and is even used as evidence for said argument.
