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This thread is for tropers who have trouble with English and would like some help with the crazy grammar of this crazy language.

Write down what you wish to edit on the wiki. If you have been suspended from editing, another troper might be kind enough to edit for you after your suggestions have been corrected.

The thread is for help and feedback on your own suggested edits.

If you want help correcting other people's edits (e.g., if you find a page which seems to have grammar problems but want a second opinion, or you don't feel able to fix it by yourself) then that's off-topic here, but we have a separate Grammar Police cleanup thread that can provide assistance.

Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM

Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#10751: Apr 6th 2021 at 4:51:35 AM

@ The Punisher MAX - Other Criminals and Psychopaths

  • Miles Gloriosus: Dingo is quite descriptive in bragging about his nonexistent ambush of The Punisher (although, to be fair, he'd been ordered to make up a story like that).
    Dingo: An' no way am I gonna let him take John James' Toomey product, fuck that —I grab the frying' pan, I let him stick his fool head inna window, BAM! I fuck him UP!
  • Sociopathic Soldier: Ortiz leads a whole army of uniformed drug-trafficking cold-blooded killers.
  • Bald of Evil: Leon has no hair on the top of his head and forces refugee children to become prostitutes.
  • Get into Jail Free: In the past, Leon turned himself into the police to escape being killed by Frank.
  • Seen It All: John is an elderly Back-Alley Doctor with a sardonic and unfazed reaction to treating an infamous mercenary's serious injuries.
@ Psych S 02 E 10 Guss Dad May Have Killed An Old Guy
  • Uncanny Family Resemblance: When Shawn and Gus confront Mr. Fuller's neighbor Bruce with a picture of him seemingly having an affair, he reveals that it's a thirty-year-old picture of his father (who is played by the same actor as Bruce).

Edited by Melinda on Apr 6th 2021 at 7:17:39 AM

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#10752: Apr 6th 2021 at 5:46:08 AM

Reposting examples that I posted on the last three pages for people to correct if they have the time (any comments would be appreciated as I need to prove improvement to get my grammar suspension removed).

A rewrite to change Dr. Butterfly's Pet the Dog example on Characters.Buso Renkin to Species Loyalty:

  • Species Loyalty: Despite not having any familial feeling towards his descendent Papillon, Dr. Butterfly still expresses the desire to protect him from the Alchemist Army as they are both Homunculi. He reconsiders this attitude when Papillon openly rebels and tries to kill him.

An addition to the House Goliath section of Characters.Necromunda:

A rewrite to a Daemons of Khorne example of Characters.Warhammer Age Of Sigmar Grand Alliance Chaos:

  • Flaming Sword: Some background material mentions that the murderously sharp and barbed Hellblades wielded by the countless of Bloodletters that make up the majority of Khorne’s Blood Legions burn with the fire of the Blood God’s rage. Other sources, however, state that it is only the more powerful Blades of Blood, wielded by Heralds of Khorne, that are wreathed in fire, with lesser Hellblades merely smouldering with heat.

A rewrite to a Destroyers example on Characters.Warhammer 40000 Necrons:

  • Straw Nihilist: Destroyers are Necrons who have turned to nihilism after being driven to despair by their Unwilling Roboticisation and the neurological damage caused by aeons of stasis. These insane Necrons have given up any hope or desire that they may have had in the past and now dedicate their entire being to the eradication of all life, willingly transforming their bodies into weapon systems to fulfil this goal.

Libraryseraph uu~ from Canada (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: Raising My Lily Rank With You
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#10753: Apr 6th 2021 at 6:21:22 AM

~Stardust 120

Twisted Wonderland

Camping Episode: The first camping event in 2021, has four clubs to participate stay in Dwarf's Mine Forest to use their survival skills for three days, without using their magic pens. [This phrasing is a little awkward, I'd put using their survival skills/not using their magic next to each other since they're similar clauses]

  • Magical Shift Club (Leona, Ruggie, Epel)
  • Horseback Riding Club (Riddle, Sebek, Silver)
  • Basketball Club (Ace, Jamil, Flyod)
  • Track and Field (Deuce, Jack)
All club names should have consistent capitalization.

Caligula Effect 2 Characters

Dark Is Evil: Bluffman is dressed in all black and is one of the primary antagonists and leader of of the Obbligato Musicians.

The Romance of Tiger and Rose

Hesitant Sacrifice: Chen Xiao Qian, who is in minor character Chen Qian Qian's body, tries to kill herself a few times hoping to return to the modern world after she accidentally changes Chen Xiao Qian's fate (She was suppose to die from drinking poison being poisoned by Han Shuo in the first episode), but she hesitated. She decides to find a way for Han Shuo and Chen Chu Chu to get together and survive the story without getting herself killed.

HAPPY HALLOWEEN FOR MARIA
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#10754: Apr 6th 2021 at 7:21:36 AM

From page 430 and [up][up][up] @Melinda

...who has his own Oh, Crap! moment when he confirms No-Ton's worries...

square bracket -> [[Hoist by His Own Petard is more interested]]

  • The episode's flashback scene shows Shawn asking Henry how babies are born...

^ This is a single example at the 2nd level of indentation, which violates Example Indentation in Trope Lists.

...some escaping prisoners are..."that jackass Spencer" <- no comma for...

He also declines to pursue the "environmental do-gooders" who blow up one...

In the past, Leon turned himself into the police to escape being killed by Frank.

Edited by Arivne on Apr 6th 2021 at 7:43:38 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#10755: Apr 6th 2021 at 7:27:35 AM

From page 430 @ElJuaco

...doesn't know the difference between a girl...point out which "woman" was...pointed at Consuelo...

...have Consuelo arrested, <- comma or alternatively ask for her address to have...

...but had her mother asked her to give her the details, maybe...

Edited by Arivne on Apr 6th 2021 at 7:55:11 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#10756: Apr 6th 2021 at 7:31:11 AM

From page 430 @miraculous

Chiyo's father has always planned to pair her up with Rentarou's uncle, <- comma as...

Edited by Arivne on Apr 6th 2021 at 7:55:32 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#10757: Apr 6th 2021 at 7:53:39 AM

From page 430 @Minorica

...of their unique...one of the possible...character jumping with a flat expression...

There are a lot...series, though some...and they don't know...actions are correct...made it into overseas.

...certain situations <- no comma and must decide how...

^ Since the rest of this is copied from the above example, just make the same changes as above.

Edited by Arivne on Apr 6th 2021 at 7:56:13 AM

OrrorSANESS Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#10758: Apr 6th 2021 at 8:08:33 AM

Corrupt Church: By the time of the Great Synod, the Imperial Orthodox Church has gone corrupt via Indulgences. Indulgences were payments for sins to be forgiven despite the Bible explicitly denouncing it. This is why Protestantism, or how it's also called in this universe "Reformed Iconoclasm" and its sect "Purism", got started.

OrrorSANESS Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#10759: Apr 6th 2021 at 8:09:40 AM

(All right now that I have figured it out... now may I please be unsuspended?)

Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#10760: Apr 6th 2021 at 8:14:57 AM

Thanks Arivne.

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#10761: Apr 6th 2021 at 8:37:47 AM

@Arivne: No. Chiyo's father and Rentorou's uncle are the same guy. Chiyo is rentorou's cousin.

Edited by miraculous on Apr 6th 2021 at 8:54:12 AM

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
ElJuaco Since: Aug, 2019
#10762: Apr 6th 2021 at 8:59:25 AM

Hi guys. It's me once again. Let's have another try.

For a potential Headscratchers page of La rosa de Guadalupe. Here's one for the episode "Cisne Negro":

  • Why does Casimira assume that Chabelita wants to seduce Hugo when the two plan to watch a movie together alone at Hugo's room with the lights turn off? She implies that she believes that the two are planning to do something innapropiate and even Laura believes that Chabelita is dangerous, but first of all, they are two kids! Of course they are not planning to do anything like what they believe they might do.
  • Why does Ofelia end up dying after going to prison? Going to prison doesn't kill you (unless the inmates kill you, but that doesn't seem to be the case here) and there's no mention that Ofelia had an illness.
  • Why does Chabelita insult the headmistress of the special home where she is send after the headmistress trips with the bucket she and Denise are using to clean up the bathroom? Hasn't she by this point deduce that insulting the headmistress is gonna land her into trouble?
  • After Chabelita and Toña sneak into Laura's home to kill her for ruining Chabelita's life, only for Chabelita to have a change of heart and let her go, why does Toña let Chabelita go and leave the thieving ring they are part of? Yeah, Chabelita is her friend, but she could expose them to the police. Even their boss could order her and the others to hunt down Chabelita for betraying them. Why should they trust that she isn't going to tell the police about their dealings?

Another one for "Los Ricos También Amán":

  • Why doesn't Aldo press charges against Fernanda, her parents and Fidel for beating him up, threatenining him and flatten his car's tires? He could report them for assault, threatening and vandalism.
Yet another one for "Claro que te amo":
  • Why doesn't Benny press charges against Tina for kicking out his grandmother to ensure she will get send to prison to get back at her for leaving him with his grandmother?
  • Though they got what they deserved, why didn't Benny have mercy with his little half-siblings? Even though the eldest one was a jerk, the other two were little and had no fault that their father Erick forced Tina to abandon Benny. At least Tina left Benny with his grandmother, but Benny's half-siblings, along with Tina and Erick, are implied to have no one to house them.
And one for "El oficio de vivir":
  • Why was Aarón able to get away with having sex with Jimena if she is a minor? Jimena is still attending school but it's explicitly stated that Aarón is going to have a child with Jimena, so why wasn't he arrested for that?
  • If the school was aware of what had happened between Jimena and Cynthia's dad, why did they allow her back into school even while pregnant?

Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#10763: Apr 6th 2021 at 9:04:01 AM

Thanks Arivne. The indented example you single out was actually for a completely different episode. I'm sorry I didn't make that clear.

jahman Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#10764: Apr 6th 2021 at 10:04:52 AM

Kingdom Hearts: Kairi

  • Magical Girlfriend: Kairi is one of the Seven Princesses of Heart who is in love with Sora who is an ordinary boy. This becomes more downplayed as they both become extraordinary keyblade wielders by the time they make their relationship official in KHIII.

Edited by jahman on Apr 6th 2021 at 10:05:12 AM

SquidRoofan4Ever Since: Nov, 2017
#10765: Apr 6th 2021 at 2:15:46 PM

So If I work on my grammar on this forum, they'll be a chance my edit ban will be lifted?

SugarButterfly432 Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#10767: Apr 6th 2021 at 5:01:48 PM

Pokémon: Roses of the Garden

  • Prenatal Possessions: Alma was born with her little white dress and wears it throughout her infancy until she got older.

Avenger09 Since: May, 2014
#10768: Apr 6th 2021 at 6:50:19 PM

The Dragon Prince S3 E9 "The Final Battle"

  • Love Confession: Callum attempts this at the beginning of the episode and given Rayla's expression, she knew what he was going to say, but the moment is interrupted by Soren. Only after the titular battle is over and Callum saves her from falling do they finally get the chance to confess their love, before kissing, midair.

Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#10769: Apr 6th 2021 at 8:20:29 PM

@ Batman

  • Adorkable: A great deal of Depending on the Writer is at play, but Batman's various sidekicks have their moments of awkwardly endearing enthusiasm.
    • Stephanie does several backflips of joy when Batman lets her be Robin during Tim's 10-Minute Retirement.
    Stephanie: This is so totally COOL!
    • Damian's eagerness and sneakiness when he dresses up as Batman while Bruce is out of town in Batman and Robin Annual #1 is also pretty notable, especially as he waits for nightfall.
    Damian: Stupid sun. Go down already.
@ Cult Defector @ Man of the City
  • The John Sandford book Silent Prey features a Killer Cop who passionately argues that he can make Manhattan about twenty times safer by killing a hundred people (repeat offenders, a particularly successful criminal defense attorney, etc.).
@ Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2003 S 4 E 3 Sons Of The Silent Age
  • No Antagonist: Aside from the long-dead Y'Lyntians, no one in the episode is traditionally villainous. The merpeople are only trying to protect their eggs, and the nuclear power plant workers work to clean up the toxic waste as soon as they realize they have a leak.
  • Uncertain Doom: The flashback scene shows over a dozen merpeople revolting against the Y'Lyntians, but only five journeyed to Manhattan. It's unclear whether the other merpeople all died or if they went elsewhere in their own small groups. The merwoman speaks as if her race's survival depends on her eggs hatching, but she could have just meant her specific tribe.
@ Ciaphas Cain
  • Reasonable Authority Figure: Dravin is quick to acquit Cain of the unsupported charges filed against him and then proceeds to discipline Cain's accuser for nearly snatching defeat from the jaws of victory with his Lawful Stupid antics.
@ Justice League He's Just Hiding
  • Despite the graphic nature of her fate and Word of God, some people doubt that Tala really died in '"Alive." She's still screaming a second or two before the experiment using her as a Living Battery concludes. While that would have left her on a ship about to explode, she does have teleportation powers.
@ Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2003)
  • In "Cousin Sid," Casey gets a cocky gang leader to back down by pointing a gun at his prized car.
@ Legion of Super-Heroes I think grammatically the quote should say stop and start instead of stopped and started, but the way I have it is the way the character said it.
  • The people of Kandor help fight Imperiex and Validus, first just as badass Bystanders, and then with the same powers as Superman once Brainiac 5 makes the artificial sun turn yellow.
    Kandorian: I say it's time we stopped listening to tales of heroes and started living them.
@ Live-Action TV
  • One Castle episode combines this with Justice by Other Legal Means when a Hate Sink murderer who works at the Russian embassy claims Diplomatic Immunity. His superiors go along with this to avoid a scandal, but make it clear to Castle and Beckett that they do not condone what he did. The killer is "reassigned" for life to a lonely town located in the coldest location on the entire planet, where it takes four days of bonfires just to defrost the ground enough to dig a grave.
    Russian official: In Russia, there are far worse places than prisons.

Edited by Melinda on Apr 7th 2021 at 11:27:04 AM

NoNamesEver Since: Jun, 2017
#10770: Apr 6th 2021 at 9:32:25 PM

Evil Genius 2

  • Black-and-Grey Morality: Sure the evil geniuses are well...evil. But the Forces of Justice are anything but just, rife with corruption within their organization and the Super Agents are hired to focus their attention on the Evil Geniuses. While some Super Agents like Blue Saint are naively heroic, others like Symmetry are on the neutral side.

Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#10771: Apr 6th 2021 at 9:53:04 PM

For Creator Breakdown Visual Novels:

For Memes.Genshin Impact:
  • Rosaria can't spell "Barbatos". Explanation 

Edited by Minorica on Apr 7th 2021 at 10:45:46 PM

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
jOSEFdelaville Since: Dec, 2018
#10772: Apr 7th 2021 at 1:42:16 AM

Sorry for insisting, but I've been waiting for two weeks to be corrected, on page 420.

Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#10773: Apr 7th 2021 at 7:25:49 AM

Edited by Minorica on Apr 7th 2021 at 9:26:03 PM

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
Stardust120 Since: May, 2019
#10774: Apr 7th 2021 at 7:26:09 AM

Twisted Wonderland Characters'

  • Palette Swap: In Vargas CAMP event, there a monster who has the same appearance as the Faceless Monster from the prologue except it's green instead of red. Yuu notices on the monster has a different color than the one they encounter before.

The Romance of Tiger and Rose

  • Arranged Marriage: Chen Qian Qian and Pei Heng has been arranged to be marry by their mothers since childhood. Pei Heng hates Qian Qian and avoid seeing her due to her cruel, selfish and uncaring personality.

  • Surprisingly Happy Ending: In season 1 finale, after Chen Xiao Qian return to her own world, she thought she won't be able to see her lover Han Shuo again due to being from another world and he's slowly dying from his injuries, but she found out the actor Han has accident at the same time she was transported into her transcript. However, unlike Xiao Qian who retain her memories from the modern world, he didn't remember who he was and all he remembers was Xiao Qian from his dreams. She realizes the person she fell in love with wasn't Han Shuo, but the actor Han along.The two reunited and they end up together in secret. After that, she changes the ending in the transcript where Chen Xiao Qian and Han Shuo end up being a loving couple and Chen Chu Chu become City Owner of Huayuan City thanks to Chen Qian Qian's help.

Edited by Stardust120 on Apr 7th 2021 at 9:19:11 AM

Ltnik244 Since: Jun, 2017
#10775: Apr 7th 2021 at 10:01:56 AM

I'd like to add something to Fran Seeker page.

Shipper on Deck: This in Ao no Kiseki between her older sister Noel and Lloyd. She also plays The Matchmaker by encouraging Noel to pursue Lloyd.


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