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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM
From page 426 @Minorica
...provided by the masked chef). <- period The masked chef then unmasks himself, <- comma revealing that his face has lots of scars. <- period He then sets a house on fire, <- comma and enters into it and...he has lost his mind.
The main premise is already dark: all the...romance with are...irredeemable and...
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Edited by Arivne on Apr 1st 2021 at 9:44:53 AM
From page 426 @Sugar Butterfly 432
She was first Performer to win the title of Performer Queen after she won...
In the story, Serena is described as a young adult woman here instead of...
Both she and Ash were romantically involved and got married before...
Like Ash and the rest of their friends, Serena has died prior to the events...
Like Ash and all the others, she's long dead by the present of the story.
Thanks Arivne.
"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."From page 426 @Bootlebat
He warns about there being some curse on the pyramid, <- comma and we learn that several workers have gotten a...right in being afraid, <- comma as he...When Ben gets back they tell him what happened, so he takes them with him when...After they get back...full of mummies, noticing to his horror...While he's reunited with...awful truth: he is part of a lineage of Serial Killers who kill anyone who dares defile Priestess...his friends away, <- comma but...who don't know, involves being...He then [[Buried Alive <- '''no comma''' puts the [[strike:the]] three of them in sarcophagi]] while...Luckily, the sarcophagi have...the ancient Egyptians...escape to the after life) <- no comma and...turns out to the be the...to scare off Ahmed. <- no close parenthesis ...get out of the pyramid okay, Ahmed is never seen again. <- square brackets
^ {{Serial Killer}}s -> Serial Killers.
Heinousness? I <- no quote mark would say so...him to the other candidates: <- colon
...though occasionally resorting to physical violence.
Mr. <- space Toggle kills...as far as we know. <- period
He's probably worse, <- comma since he terrorizes an entire country.
Edited by Arivne on Apr 1st 2021 at 10:28:42 AM
From page 426 @El Juaco
...first scarabs Gad Hassan adds (?) to his bag wake up like the one who falls out of (?) his bag?
Edited by Arivne on Apr 1st 2021 at 10:22:52 AM
Reposting from the previous page
in case it was missed.
@Michael Katsuro: Thanks![]()
(although I would point out that as I use British-English, the punctuation would go outside the quotation marks: i.e. "the House of Chains", was)
Here are a few more I would appreciate someone looking at .
A rewrite to one of Dr. Butterfly's examples on Characters.Buso Renkin that should be changed from Dragon-in-Chief to The Heavy:
- The Heavy: Dr. Butterfly is quite open about the fact that the reason he is the main antagonist is because he working to revive Victor, the true Big Bad. This role only lasts until Dr. Butterfly’s death at the mid-point of the series, after which the fully healed Victor takes over the role.
An Addition to the House Goliath section on Characters.Necromunda (I am not particularly sure on the commas in these one):
- Bio-Augmentation:
- Created with gene-enhanced strength and toughness, but reduced intelligence and life expectancy, the artificially grown Vatborn are the most basic members of House Goliath. Despite this, Vatborn are also the most mutable Goliaths and can be further enhanced during the creation process to fulfil specialised roles, or survive in specific environments, with thicker skin allowing a Vatborn better resistance to dust storms, while even greater muscular strength can be added for those required for lifting the heaviest cargo.
- Conceived with only the best genes available to the House, natural born Goliaths, known as Natborn, still undergo gene-smithing to further enhance their superior abilities. As well as the accelerated growth and physical enhancements that allow them to be put to work as quickly as possible, Natborn are often give further custom enhancements, such as extra organs and the ability to adapt to a variety of hostile environments.
- If an outsider can prove themselves worthy — usually through feats of extreme strength or violence — they may be offed the chance to join House Goliath. These hopefuls must undergo dangerous and excruciating procedures involving surgery, cocktails of drugs, and genetic manipulation to bring their bodies up to Goliath standards. Those few that survive the process are known as Unborn and gain the strength and survivability of their adopted House, while keeping some of the intelligence of their former lives.
A rewrite of an example in the Daemons of Khorne section of the Blades of Khorne's General Tropes folder on Characters.Warhammer Age Of Sigmar Grand Alliance Chaos:
- Flaming Skulls: When fired, the pitch-covered skulls fired by Skull Cannons of Khorne are ignited by the fury of Blood God's burning anger, hitting their target with the force of a cannonball, before exploding in a shower of flaming bone shrapnel.
A rewrite of a trope in the Destroyers section of the Specific Necron types folder on Characters.Warhammer 40000 Necrons:
- Arm Cannon: In their quest for efficient methods of eradication, Lokhust Destroyers and Heavy Destroyers will replace one of their arms with powerful gauss weapons that allow them to unleash a constant stream of fire as they advance on the enemy.
Thanks in advance.
(Note: The mods in the Edit banned thread have also asked
me to remind posters and lurkers to post corrected versions of examples people who are currently suspended for grammar issues, such as myself)
Thanks. Soon it will be six moths since I started on here I'm beginning to wonder if I'll ever improve any further.
The Justice League heartwarming moment was the one I put between some of your posts on Wednesday morning. I'm not sure what you changed the Cave of the Dark Wind double apostrophe to a quote, as it is a novel title (a middle grade novel, grand, but still).
I made a mistake about the kinds of stockings Black Canary wore. Does this updated sentence work? Black Canary Fights Like a Normal despite having powers and built her motorcycle by hand, but wears cocktail waitress stockings and a decent amount of makeup. In the meantime, here's a little more.
@ Superman: The Animated Series S1 E4 "Fun and Games"
- Bait-and-Switch: The scene where Toyman describes what Mannheim did to his father initially seems like it's about Toyman himself before it's revealed that Winslow Schott Sr. is dead and that he has a son.
There are also three significantly shorter spinoff novels about The Lost Boys and Fighting Prawn's younger daughter: Escape from the Carnivale, Cave of the Dark Wind, and Blood Tide.
Edited by Melinda on Apr 2nd 2021 at 3:09:42 AM
A Smile Is Worth A Million Words
- Moe: Izu is greatly this thanks to the recent chapters. After being suffering years at the hands of Shigaraki and Overhaul, Izu is slowly but surely coming over his trauma thanks to the heroes.
- The Woobie: Izu has suffered greatly before the events of the story. His mother was killed in a villain attack when he was a toddler and was sold to the League of Villains as a pet to Shigaraki. His father even tried to saved him by becoming a loyal to All For One, only for the man not seeing his son again. Poor Izu then spend years being abused by Shigaraki, and eventually, Overhaul with the two men often used him as a test subject for their experiments. Make it worst, they often tell him how they were generous enough to take him in while anyone else wouldn't hesitate to leave Quirkless child on the streets, even going as far to tell Izu that his own parents abandoned him because of his Quirklessness. In the recent chapters, Izu ends getting kidnapped by Toga and returns to his abusers.
Sugar Butterfly: Don't have time for a full check right now, but your Moe entry has three problems:
First, Saying "Izu is greatly this" is Word Cruft.
Secondly, you're not explaining what's moe about him.
Finally, "recent chapters" is bad phrasing. Examples Are Not Recent.
- The Punisher MAX: The second time Ax-Crazy Nicky Cavella tries to take over a leaderless Mafia family, none of the five capos are willing to give him the time of day until he desecrates the remains of the Punisher's family to make himself a target for the vigilante. Following that, two of the capos support making Nicky their boss, one (Joey Picardi) opposes this idea, and two are undecided but are poised to follow Joey. Joey is killed by Nicky's bodyguard during a bathroom break, and the opposition to Nicky disappears.
- The William Johnstone novel Prey has several Straw Character liberal senators gather to discuss assassinating a conservative president. The least radical senator present repeatedly expresses contempt for the plan and exasperation with the others for considering it. He's Killed Offscreen shortly after the meeting ends.
- The Donald Westlake book A Spy In The Ointment has the Big Bad gather the leaders of a dozen or so disparate and largely ineffectual extremist groups whom he hopes to recruit into a plan that involves assassinating a prominent industrialist. Anti-Unionist Lionel Stonewright insults the ideologies of his fellow terrorists (to be fair, all of them insult each other, but he's particularly vocal) and announces his intention to tell the police about them. The narrator promptly closes his eyes as The Brute marches toward Stonewright and (based on the sounds) tears his head off. Then, shortly after the meeting, some of the leaders who did agree to join the Big Bad are killed anyway after he deems that they lack any valuable skills or resources.
- A (somewhat) heroic version happens in Last Resort when several businesspeople, politicians, Secret Service agents, and the Joint Chiefs of Staff join a coup against the President Evil Big Bad. One general tries to back out and is immediately shot by a Secret Service agent. Unusually for the trope, his killer isn't acting under the orders of the group's leader, and several of those present are horrified.
- Cruel and Unusual Death: Candy freezes solid very slowly, with one of her fingers breaking off first.
- Walking Shirtless Scene: The bank robber with chameleon abilities is shirtless for his entire screen time to allow better use of his powers.
- What Happened to the Mouse?: Frank's corrupt boss is never mentioned again after trying to set him up to be killed.
- Space Cabbie tricks an assassin riding in his cab into going right into the League's lap by claiming that Earth has conditions ideal for Disposing of a Body while pretending to answer another call. The assassin forces him to fly there, not realizing that they've landed on Earth and that because Cabbie had his radio on the whole time, so the Justice League is waiting for them.
Edited by Melinda on Apr 2nd 2021 at 3:17:40 AM
- Aborted Arc: The Highway ends with Cassie in a position of power over her boss Sheriff Tubman after finding out that he takes rent money from gemstone miners who also deal drugs. The next book begins with her transferring to another department, and that plot is abandoned.
- Murder by Inaction: In Badlands, a Hate Sink enforcer for The Cartel falls through a frozen pond in the middle of the night during a police chase. The deputy pursuing him hears his scream for help, radios the sheriff for orders and is told to tell the freezing killer that they'll come back for him in the morning (although, given how fast the guy freezes to death, they probably couldn't have saved him in time anyway).
- Nice Job Breaking It, Hero!: In The Highway, one of Cody and Cassie's coworkers tells Cody he can get help from her ex-brother-in-law, a cop in the area where girls have been disappearing. Her ex-brother-in-law is one of the culprits and murders Cody.
- When Stargirl finds out that Klarion has been impersonating her babysitting charge, she goes full-on Mama Bear, swearing revenge if Klarion has harmed "one hair on his head."
- Superman affectionately pets Krypto the Superdog, calls him a good dog, and rubs his belly for chasing Joker and Luthor away from the Fortress of Solitude.
- Luthor ultimately disarms the bomb Joker is about to use to take out themselves and the Justice League. True, some self-preservation is involved, but he could have tried to escape instead.
Luthor: Not like this. Not ever.
- Bizarro thinks that Space Cabbie is the smartest hero in the universe just because Bizarro asked him for directions once (and then proceeded to go in the opposite direction).
Edited by Melinda on Apr 2nd 2021 at 3:24:54 AM
- Breather Episode: In volume 7, due to the sheer horrors the Strike Package faced in Volume 4-6 plus their baggage from the Eighty-sixth sector, Giadian High Command decides to put the team on vacation. The only serious combat that happens in this volume takes place in a simulator.
(Saying "...is this." is just Word Cruft. Better to get to the point.)
- Combat Clairvoyance: Captain Olivia Aegis has the ability to see three seconds into the future. This makes her extremely effective in melee combat, which she demonstrates by giving Shin, one of the most skilled pilot in melee combat, a mutual kill in a simulator battle.
(Write numbers below 13 with letters, not numbers.)
- Hopeless Suitor: As of Volume 7, there are three people who have feelings for either Lena or Shin: Kurena and Annettenote for Shin, and Shiden for Lena. By that volume, all of them know that their feelings won't be reciprocated, and finally give up.
- Smoky Gentlemen's Club: Lampshaded and parodied. In Volume 7, the Giadian military High Command gathers in an unlit room, smoking. They're there to make a plan to stop the Eighty-Six from becoming so successful in their missions that they're seen as heroes. In the High Command's view, "Soldiers are to be seen as replaceable parts. Victory in battle must not rest on the shoulders of a single hero."[NOT TWO PERIODS] So the High Command, in that unlit room, decides to... [SPACE]send them on a vacation. The aide receiving the paperwork quietly lampshades the sheer absurdity of them acting like evil masterminds plotting something terrible.
- Unwitting Instigator of Doom: An inversion: Ernst saving Frederica (purely for humanitarian reasons) during the Giadian Civil War ends up becoming a crucial factor in the war against the Legion after Zelene reveals that living members of the Imperial Family can shut down the Legion.
For Funny.Genshin Impact General:
- Snezhnaya's organization Fatui has serious members and the uppers called Harbingers, which mostly serves as a antagonist faction. It seems to be scary, until you translate the organization name in Latin. Explanation
Edited by Minorica on Apr 2nd 2021 at 10:55:26 PM
"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."Fate/type Redline Characters
- Catch Your Death of Cold: Tsukumo gets sick getting caught in a rain due to lack of sleep and resting, it worse her current condition because the Japanese Imperial Army looking for them non-stop to kill them.
- Disappeared Dad: According Tsukumo, she hasn't seen him after Japanese Navy Army killed her family two years ago and she has no idea if her father is alive or not since the ship he was in sank.
Fate/type Redline
- Two-Faced: The unnamed Japanese Imperial Army who fought Saber and attempted to do suicided attack on her with grenade, survived and half of his left face is badly disfigured from the explosion.
Edited by Stardust120 on Apr 2nd 2021 at 10:51:21 AM
x 9, 7 @Melinda
The Justice League heartwarming moment was the one I put between some of your posts on Wednesday morning.
^ If you're talking about the "Themis, the Greek goddess of justice" example, I couldn't find it because it didn't say it was a heartwarming moment.
I'm not sure what you changed the Cave of the Dark Wind double apostrophe to a quote, as it is a novel title (a middle grade novel, grand, but still).
^ You started it with a quote mark so I assumed it was a short work. Since it's a long work, it should be in italics.
The Black Canary example looks O.K.
...about The Lost Boys and Fighting Prawn's younger daughter: <- colon Escape from the Carnivale...
...leaderless Mafia family...remains of the Punisher's...one (Joey Picardi)...
The Donald Westlake book <- no comma A Spy In The Ointment <- no comma has...groups whom he...
...Secret Service agents, and the Joint Chiefs of Staff join...shot by a Secret Service agent.
...entire screen time to allow better use of his powers.
...the League's lap by claiming that Earth has conditions...whole time, so the...
...for help, <- comma and radios...the morning <- no period (although...
Luthor ultimately disarms the bomb Joker is about to use to take out themselves and the Justice League.
Edited by Arivne on Apr 2nd 2021 at 1:18:43 AM
Thank you so much Arivne for fixing my page: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=vn09ul8ytfp3q3it9kzwpn5p#end
x 9 @Sugar Butterfly 432
...After being suffering for years...surely overcoming his trauma...
...and he was sold...tried to save him by becoming a loyal...the man to not see his...Izu then spends years...Shigaraki <- no comma and eventually <- no comma Overhaul, <- comma with...often using him...To make it worse, they...leave a Quirkless...going so far as to tell him that...In the recent...
x 5 @Stardust 120
After getting caught in the rain, <- comma Tsukumo gets sick due to lack of sleep and rest. <- period It worsens her current condition because the Japanese Imperial Army is looking for them non-stop to kill them.
^ Besides Tsukumo, who is the rest of "them"?
^ This was a run-on sentence
separated with a comma splice
.
According to Tsukumo, she hasn't seen him after the Japanese Navy Army...
^ Was it the Japanese Navy or the Japanese Army?
The unnamed Japanese Imperial Army who fights Saber and attempts to perform a suicide attack on her with a grenade <- no comma survives, <- comma but half of the left side of his face is badly disfigured by the explosion.
^ Japanese Imperial Army what? Soldier? Officer?
Sebastian: "Dr. Butterfly is open about the fact" ("quite open" is Word Cruft.)
"with thicker skin allowing a Vatborn better resistance to dust storms" is unclear. Do you mean they have thicker skin, or that they can be given thicker skin?
"Their accelerated growth and physical enhancements tallow them to be put to work as quickly as possible, and Natborn are often give further custom enhancements, such as extra organs and the ability to adapt to a variety of hostile environments.
"survivability" should be replaced with "ability to survive". "Survivability" sounds like it means "chance to go through alive".
"the fury of the Blood God's burning anger,"
Hi guys. It's me once again. Let's have another try.
For a potential Headscratchers page of Como dice el dicho. Here's one for the episode "Quien a su hijo consiente...":
- When we first see Laura spoiling Sam by buying him many balloons, Carlos mentions that their rooftop looks like a "toy cellar", but when we get to see their house from a panoramic point of view, there are no toys in the rooftop. Did they vanish or what?
- Why does Sam take money from her mother if he ultimately didn't spend it in anything? He took it and gave it back once he returned to his house!
- What did Yasmin see in Sam to begin with? He is a jerkish spoiled brat and is implied to have no friends! She even mentions at one point that he used to be sweet, but his father mentions that he has been always problematic.
- If Sam was no longer going to school since two months ago, why didn't the school report his father that Sam was no longer going so Carlos would not waste his money?
- When Sam tries to rape Yasmin, why does he try to force himself upon her at the entrance of the building where she lives? Sam could have gotten into a bigger trouble if Yasmin's parents ended up discovering him...
- Before Sam tries to rape Yasmin, we can see a man near the building who crosses the street seconds later. Why doesn't he hear Yasmin's cries for help if he was that near?
- When Laura finally stands up to Sam and goes with Yasmin, Pato and Marieta to the police station to prosecute him for attempted rape, why didn't Sam just run away or try to flee?
El Juaco:
- When we first see Laura spoiling Sam by buying him loads of balloons, Carlos mentions that their rooftop looks like a "toy cellar", but when we get to see their house from a panoramic point of view, there are no toys (Do you mean balloons?) in the rooftop. Did they vanish?
- Why does Sam take money from WHOSE MOTHER if he ultimately didn't spend it on anything? He took it and gave it back once he returned to his house. [PERIOD, NOT EXCLAMATION MARK.]
- What did Yasmin see in Sam to begin with? He is a jerkish spoiled brat and is implied to have no friends.[PERIOD, NOT EXCLAMATION POINT.] She even mentions at one point that he used to be sweet, but his father mentions that he has been always problematic.
(Why would him not having friends make him unattractive? That's a reach. Also, if she says he was sweet to begin with, that answers your question, right?)
- If Sam was no longer going to school since two months ago, why didn't the school report to his father that Sam was no longer going so Carlos would not waste his money?
- When Sam tries to rape Yasmin, why does he try to force himself upon her at the entrance of the building where she lives? Sam could have gotten into bigger trouble if Yasmin's parents ended up discovering him...
- Before Sam tries to rape Yasmin, we can see a man near the building who crosses the street seconds later. Why doesn't he hear Yasmin's cries for help if he was that near?
- When Laura finally stands up to Sam and goes with Yasmin, Pato and Marieta to the police station to prosecute him for attempted rape, why didn't Sam just run away or try to flee?
All in all, you need to work on tone. Your exclamation points make your questions come off as complaints. And like I said previously, not every case of people acting unwisely or selfishly is a plot hole.
Edited by MichaelKatsuro on Apr 2nd 2021 at 4:01:55 AM

From page 426 @Melinda
"Is it ok to post the Justice League heartwarming moment?"
^ Which Justice League heartwarming moment? I can't find it.
...employee...and almost disarms Deadshot before being knocked out.
...for five more years before being pardoned for the crime for which he received a death sentence in the electric chair.
Sid Shattuck letting Amelia stay at his house while there's a killer after her...
Hook sarcastically says no, he means next Christmas, <- comma causing Smee...
...together while covered in seaweed and other props to look like they're one...
..."Cave of the Dark Wind", Hook stands his ground, <- comma pressing on as his men flee.
^ Changed double apostrophes to a quote mark.
Cat wins sympathy in "Shield" <- no comma by talking about the sacrifices...
What's more, <- comma considering that at least one of those staffers...
...walking next to her fellow flight attendant Claire, who's wearing pants.
^ "Whose" is the possessive. "Who's" = "Who is".
...bitten on her feet...her feet and sitting on them at...by the snakes, <- comma but...
After Black Canary runs out of breath and can’t keep using her sonic scream, she blanches when Mandragora is still standing and walking towards her.
...built her motorcycle by hand, <- comma but wears fishnet stockings...
Macross Missile Massacre: ...dozen mini-missiles at Amazon from launchers that appear...
Carter swims with a tiger shark to remove a license plate stuck in its mouth.
...by using his curb tank as a decoy, <- comma then tranquilizing it from behind.
...his days as a cop <- no comma and how his partner hated him and told...
...short story "Ruthless", <- comma due...loving them <- no comma and...
Edited by Arivne on Apr 1st 2021 at 10:24:27 AM