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Can we ask for word definitions here? I'm really good with grammar but every now and then I run into words I don't know, and I have no idea where to ask.

An article of clothing: A sleeveless sweater that's typically worn over another sweater - looks like a vest but doesn't have buttons.

What is it called?

Lermis: It's sometimes called a knit vest.

Thanks

From page 374 @Melinda

"While I clearly still have a long way to go, could you give estimates (both optimistic and pessimistic) of how long I need to stay on this thread?"

1. When deciding whether to release you from this thread, the moderators look at how many mistakes you make per post. Based on their responses to such requests in the Edit banned/Suspended - would like to edit again thread, regularly having any number of mistakes causes them to say "no".

2. The number of mistakes you make in a post varies from a few to a lot. If you could get the average number of mistakes per post down to "very few", you would be close to being ready to leave this thread.

The only advice I can give you is to (a) write out your post in advance in a text file or Sandbox page, then carefully re-read/proofread it before you post it and (b) obtain a spell-checker, preferably as part of your browser.

If a mistake is due to a problem with understanding English, then re-reading it won't help. However, some of your mistakes are typographical (due to improper typing) and you can catch and correct them. I often make typographical errors when typing things, but I use Firefox (which underlines words it doesn't understand) so I can correct them.

From page 374 @Melinda

...due to its All-Star Cast and Scenery Porn, <- comma and is better regarded...

Fixing a past Deadpan Snarker error I made that I now know to fix...

Also would Pungeon Master be more appropriate than Deadpan Snarker?

^ Are there any puns in those quotes?

Two episodes ("Hoo Done It" and "Bronzefinger") <- close parenthesis have multiple...

In "One Nation Invisible", the Chief...

^ ^^ These episode titles should be in quotes, not italicized, as per How to Write an Example - Italicize "Long" Work Names.

The entire scene at the drive-in theater...

^ That's a Zero-Context Example because it doesn't say how the example fits the trope, it just says that it does. The rest of the example says how one specific scene in the example does: the whole example needs to.

Edited by Arivne on Jan 14th 2021 at 10:58:03 AM

From page 374 @Bullman

It didn't take long for most fans to latch onto shipping Sherlock and Wato. <- period As with most versions...blowing up on Twitter <- no comma and having a strong following on Tumblr.

^ The first sentence was a run-on sentence connected together by a comma splice.

Edited by Arivne on Jan 14th 2021 at 10:34:35 AM

From page 374 @Bootlebat

Here's one for Declaration of Protection: <- colon

@Arivne: Thank you for the help. So like this?

• Miss Sherlock: It didn't take long for most fans to latch onto shipping Sherlock and Wato. As with most versions of the two characters, it had already started before the first episode aired, and only grew as the episodes aired. There's plenty of fanfiction, fanart, and fanvids for the ship, along with the pairing blowing up on Twitter and having a strong following on Tumblr. This is mainly due to the chemistry between their actresses, the Les Yay between them, and the fact that their dynamic is the focus of the show. This continued even after Wato was given a proper love interest, Moriya, though thankfully he managed to avoid Die for Our Ship, and continues even after the show ended.

Edited by Bullman on Jan 14th 2021 at 12:41:54 PM

From page 374 @miraculous

...which is a loose adaption of The Little Mermaid. <- period

...most dangerous members, <- comma having taken...Lira is given till the winter solstice to give her mother the heart of Prince Elian's heart or remain a human forever.

...while keeping their conflicting agendas secret.

She instills and abuses her, <- comma hoping to mold her into a sociopath like herself.

^ She instills what?

Sirens and humans despise each other due to a centuries old war that occurred between...

The Siren Queen is depicted as a genocidal psychopath...Her ultimate aim...

Lira starts off as a vicious...overthrow her bloodthirsty mother and create peace...

To try and eliminate any empathy in her daughter Lira...sacrificing herself and allows Lira to kill her instead of her daughter, <- comma which the Queen allows and makes her giddy at the idea.

Edited by Arivne on Jan 14th 2021 at 10:50:30 AM

From page 374 @Stardust 120

Peacocks are symbolic of beauty, grace and nobility, <- comma which reflect Vil's traits since he is obsessed with looking more beautiful ...he has a peacock feathers design...

Edited by Arivne on Jan 14th 2021 at 10:50:47 AM

From page 374 @owlcyclops

From the episode "Alien Ecosystem": <- colon

While a group of protesters are holding <- no comma "save the trees!" signs, a parasite has an interesting version of the protesters' signs: <- colon

From the episode "Cyberpunk": <- colon

While P.J. is explaining that cyberpunk is a Darker and Edgier descendant of the sci-fi genre as an version it, the cyberpunk says "It's <- no comma not a phase, Dad!" <- space to their sci-fi predecessor.

x 4 @Bullman

Yes.

@Arivne: Thanks again.

I have one for Shadow Warrior (1997). I'm gonna spoiler part of it.

Humongous Mecha: While it's not that huge (around 12-15 feet tall), Zilla pilots a samurai themed mecha during the Final Boss fight.

Edited by Bootlebat on Jan 14th 2021 at 11:00:06 AM

Thank you for your estimate about the work I have to do. Hopefully in a relatively short time I will have reached those standards of improvement. Sorry about the Get Smart italics/quotes goof. It's a rule I know but sometimes put wrong out of old habit.

@ Hang 'Em High Alternate Character Interpretation

• Cooper's desire to quit at the end casts doubt about whether he really intends to pursue the last two members of the group that lynched him even after agreeing to remain a marshal.

• Benevolent Boss: This trait is the one thing that keeps Captain Wilson from indisputably crossing the Moral Event Horizon when he decides to murder Cooper to stop his pursuit. Wilson gives his cowhands Loomis and Tommy a chance to back out, telling them that they're both young men who wouldn't be ruined by a prison term and that he'll understand if they turn themselves in.
• The Family That Slays Together: Marshal Bliss is ambushed and murdered by seven members of the unseen Walker family to keep him from taking custody of one of their relatives.
• It Has Been an Honor: When Charlie Blackfoot chooses to run from Cooper, he calls the five years he's worked for Wilson "good years."
• Karma Houdini: The Walker family and the murderers of Rachel's husband are never caught.
• Modesty Bedsheet: Jennifer, the prostitute, is covered by a bedsheet as she lies in bed with Cooper.
• Small Role, Big Impact: Shorty McLeod, who committed the murders that Cooper was non-fatally lynched over, is only seen briefly and from a distance as he's being executed.

• Anti-Villain: Coach Rupp is portrayed as being at least slightly racist and a Sore Loser, but has some redeeming traits. He's A Father to His Men, speaking encouragingly to his players rather than blowing up at them once they start losing. He doesn't resort to cheating or personal attacks during the game. And he eventually lets black players onto his team, as detailed in the epilogue.
• Bathroom Stall of Overheard Insults: Inverted. As several white coaches and reporters inside the bathroom stalls make racist comments about the Miners, one of them steps out and sees Haskins standing by the sink with a Death Glare.
• Education Mama: Mrs. Flournoy is excited when her son is admitted to a university to play basketball and flies out to Texas to embarrass him in class upon hearing that he's been falling behind in his studies.
• It Will Never Catch On: Pre-Character Development, trainer Ross Moore feels this way about having more than a token black player or two on a college team.
  Ross: You carrying on like Negroes gonna be the future of basketball. Could you imagine that?

Edited by Melinda on Jan 15th 2021 at 10:11:22 AM

Twisted Wonderland Characters

• Big Damn Heroes: Jamil saves Kalim, Rook, Grim and Yuu just in time with Kalim;s magic carpet before being expose to poison mist from an overblot Vil.
• Don't Look At Me: Subverted. He's not hideious, but he suffer a mental breakdown as he screamed this to Kalim, Rook, Grim and Yuu and thinks how ugly he is not only by appearance but his personality after he fails to poison Neige.
• Taking You with Me: An overbolt Vil almost uses his Unique Magic to poison Rook, Epel, Kalim, Jamil, Ace, Deuce, Grim and Yuu including himself until Deuce uses his new found Unique Magic, "Bet the Limit" he used to defeat an overbloted Vil and return him back to normal.

Tales of Crestoria Characters

• Promoted to Playable: After their official debut in Chapter 6, Forte and Assid become playable characters and they will be released as Half Anniversary for 2021.

Edited by Stardust120 on Jan 14th 2021 at 6:01:32 AM

@Arivne: She instills hatred and prejudice in her.

Thanks Arivne

Bootlebat: "samurai-themed" should have a hyphen in it. Otherwise, you're good.

josef:

"the first two set up."

"contest. During the entire visit,"

"We never see the face of Roger, the recurring barkeep. The only exceptions are in some strips that use encyclopedia images, but his looks are inconsistent because the images are different every time."

"he doesn't react at cutting his limbs and continues"

"he sometime eats mice, even though they have human-like sentience."

"wolves"

When you say "the man", do you mean a specific man, or do you mean "man" as in "humankind"?

Star Wars: The Clone Wars S5E20 "The Wrong Jedi"

Unfortunate Implications: As some Star Wars fans have pointed out. It might not have been a good idea to have the true identity of the temple bomber be a, non-white coded Alien, (a Mirialan) radicalized, young women. Whose conservatively dressed and wears a headdress which resembles a hijab, Filoni.

Edited by Avenger09 on Jan 15th 2021 at 8:25:40 PM

Unfortunate Implications examples require citations to show that they're not just one person's thinking.

I have a new trope to add to the Manly Badass Hero page:

• Surprise Creepy: Several games he had played started cute and cheerful before becoming outright disturbing.
  • His playthrough of Ruff Times is arguably the best example. The game starts as a cute, simple game about breeding cute dogs to make cuter ones as well as taking care of them before becoming a downright disturbing commentary about how people are obsessed with having cute breeds of dogs while ignoring their birth defects. The game also features a trash can to dispose of dead dogs that progressively gets more filled the more you do so, culminating in several trash bags with dead dogs inside littered near it.

I spell-checked using Grammarly as well.

I have a question.

Can we also make possible new pages, complete with descriptions and trope examples, for this forum?

I want to make a whole TV Tropes page to examine my grammar.

kenny: You do have the right to make your own sandbox page, sure.

Michael Katsuro:

I mean "Man" as the "humankind". I would have rather said "human" but I'm directly quoting the comic.

Edited by jOSEFdelaville on Jan 15th 2021 at 3:13:12 PM