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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM
Hi everyone. This time it will be shorter than usually
- Artistic License – Chemistry: Crude oil hardly burns. And yet somehow it catches fire just like gasoline.
- Badass Normal: Beau, especially in his Dying Moment of Awesome. He singlehandly deals with two dozens of vampires, kills most of them and badly mutilates other. Eben also counts, before becoming Badass Abnormal.
- Better to Die than Be Killed: Beau's conclusion during his Suicide Mission.
- Decapitated Army: Literally. After Eben blows Marlowe's brain out, the rest of the vampires just stumble around, not sure what to do.
- Determinator: Eben. Clearly outpowered, outnumbered and succumbing to vampirism. And yet he still fight back.
- Dwindling Party: Five people survive from the whole group. And the town of 152.
- The Load: Dementive old father, who is not really aware what's going on around. Or maybe he just Go Mad from the Revelation.
- Make It Look Like an Accident: Vampires' MO. Kill everyone and burn everything to the ground, so there are no witnesses and everything can be blamed on freak accident with pipeline.
- Men Are the Expendable Gender: After initial killing spree during Taking Over the Town sequence, none of female characters dies. Yet the party is constantly thawing.
- Mercy Kill: For Billy. It's messy, but still much more gentle than any other option.
- No Name Given: None of the vampires is named in-story. All their names comes from credits.
- Product Placement: Hey, we find here some chocolate, vitamins and a bottle of Smirnoff!
- The Quisling: Unintentionally, the girl used as bait. She helps vampires, because it's better than being killed on spot. It's more than obvious that she is heavily traumatised by this. And when there is no-one else to eat...
- Sadistic Choice: Vampires set up a trap early on - a lone girl is wandering around, shouting for help. Heroes can choose - die, going for impossible rescue or let her die. A scene later Eben is Forced to Watch as the vampires proceed with killing the girl.
- Scylla and Charybdis: When the whole town burns, Stella and Gail are hiding beneth car wrack. Their options are either to run away, being killed almost on spot... or burn alive.
- Taking You with Me: Beau was trying to pull this with a box of dynamite. Amusingly, he survived the explosion.
- Vampire Infectee: Carter. He choose to be killed than fully turn.
- Villain: Exit, Stage Left: The remaining vampires just... walk around, because it's not even clear if they are trying to run away or hide from incoming sun.
- Who Wants to Live Forever?: Carter lost his wife and kids in accident and hardly can live without them. The idea of spending whole eternity without them is unbearable for him.
edited 25th Feb '13 4:35:08 AM by RysioPysio
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Ciabela, I suggest you take it also to this forum thread
which discusses Playing With Wiki. They will help you with the played-with tropes and with the language. My guess is you got it mostly right, but it's good to have it double-checked.
I spotted some mistakes.
- Basic Trope: There are stories told and ballads sang about this character.
- You need sung, the past participle form.
- Played Straight: There is a ballad inspired by Bob’s heroic straggle against the Evil Overlord.
- I believe you mean struggle; straggle means to wander or ramble.
- Exaggerated: All ballads sang in Tropetia are about Bob’s adventures.
- sung instead of sang
- Defined: The trope is not defined, but defied. See Defied Trope.
edited 25th Feb '13 4:57:00 AM by XFllo
For the YMMV page of YMMV/Brave.
Under the Broken Base.
- Western Animation fans were increasingly enraged at the fact that it Brave won the Oscars when most think that it's So Okay, It's Average and snubbing Wreck It Ralph or ParaNorman of an Oscar win.
edited 25th Feb '13 9:28:09 AM by phoenixdaughterAM
Note to self: The presence of a source button is badly missed in TV Tropes's Get Help With English thread:
@Rysio: While I approve of the presence of context here, completely spoilered examples are undesirable.
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@phoenixdaughter AM:
- Western Animation fans were increasingly enraged at the fact that No it Brave won the Oscars when most think that it's So Okay, It's Average and snubbing Wreck It Ralph or ParaNorman of an Oscar win.
Good, but it's an example of Award Snub more than Broken Base.
edited 25th Feb '13 9:33:39 AM by SeptimusHeap
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Addendum to Who Wants to Live Forever?: It should be "the whole of eternity", not "the whole eternity". (The latter is technically grammatically correct, but it's not used.)
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Western Animation fans were increasingly enraged at the fact that Brave won the Oscars when most think that it's So Okay, It's Average and that it shut Wreck-It Ralph or Para Norman out of an Oscar win.
Brave did not snub the other movies; the people choosing the awards did. Also, you cannot "snub a thing [out] of something"; "to snub" means "to express disdain by ignoring".
edited 25th Feb '13 9:45:21 AM by Nocturna
Is that really the sort of example we want to be adding to Award Snub? That's so subjective as to be meaningless: Fans of <X> think it should have won an award? Gee, color me surprised.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Nobody's adding examples to Award Snub without getting an all-expenses paid trip to the Edit Banned topic.
They say of adding it to Brave.
Admittedly, it seems to put emphasis on the fan reaction as opposed to the actualy snub, so I would disrecommend its addition.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynmanthis line is at the Incorruptible Pureness page "Or the fact that the most evilest thing she could think pf was jaywalking." It's supposed to read Or the fact that the most evil thing she could think of was jaywalking. I would fix it myself, but I am currently on suspension and have to rely on another troper to see this and hope they will mend the error, sorry if I'm inconveniencing anyone.
edited 1st Mar '13 7:05:20 PM by dracone
Sanity is a delusion perpetuated by the massesThis Capitalization line is at the Incorruptible Pure Pureness You missed both the Pure and the CamelCase page "Or the fact that the most evilest thing she could think pf was jaywalking." It's supposed to read "Do not forget the "Or the fact that the most evil thing she could think of was jaywalking. I would fix it myself, but I am currently on suspension and have to rely on another troper to see this and hope they will mend the error, sorry if I'm inconveniencing anyone.
Nocturna took care of the fix, I did of the grammar.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanCan someone help me with this entry?
- Always Chaotic Evil/Always Lawful Good: Played with. Magical girls are considered good by definition. Their magical system requires user to be pure-hearted, but if a magical girl is strong-willed enough she can keep her powers even after losing her innocence. Born mages are believed to be evil, but Chronos proves there can good-natured mages as well. Their villainy seems to be more upbringing than anything else.
edited 2nd Mar '13 11:21:47 AM by Ciabella
- Always Chaotic Evil: Played with. Magical girls are considered good by definition. Their magical system requires the Missing the user to be pure-hearted, but if a magical girl is strong-willed strong not stong enough she can keep her powers even after losing her innocence. Born mages are believed to be evil, but Chronos proves there can be Missing be good-natured mages as well. Their Their not thier villainy seems to be more upbringing than anything else.
I do not know of any trope for Always Lawful Good.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanI will divide this example into two entries:
- Always Chaotic Evil: Played with. Born mages are believed to be evil, but Chronos proves there can be good-natured mages as well. Their villainy seems to be more upbringing than anything.
- Always Lawful Good: Played with. Magical girls are considered good by definition. Their magical system requires the user to be pure-hearted, but if a magical girl is strong-willed enough she can keep her powers even after losing her innocence.
edited 3rd Mar '13 5:42:37 AM by Ciabella
- Always Lawful Good: Played with. Magical girls are considered good by definition. Their magical system requires the user to be pure-hearted, but if a magical girl is enough strong-willed she can keep her powers even after losing her innocence.
I moved the "enough" since as written it looked awkward.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanScenery Porn Under the Video Games subpage. Edit in Italics.
- Developers of Journey has put a lot of efforts to make sand look as pretty as possible. It's most notable in the fourth level.
- In fact, one particular scene is noted very much to be this. Austin Wintory, the game's composer, says it best.
edited 8th Mar '13 11:51:44 AM by phoenixdaughterAM
That addition is a cleverly masqueraded Zero Context Example. Also, your edit would get Example Indentation wrong.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanWould it be wrong to ask to have my sandbox Beta Read? maybe my page while you're at it.
edited 18th Mar '13 9:23:54 AM by HeroShepherd
Hi everyone. It's me again after a long break. This one will be more of proper use of trope than grammar correction, but still...
- Actionized Sequel: Compared with previous instalments, even those made by the same company, the new game is practically overloaded with high-paced action sequences, often one after another, not even allowing player to take a breath. This even borders Genre Shift for the game itself, because at the beginning it looks like Survival Horror, but after just few minutes of gameplay everything speeds up into full-blown Action movie plot, with capital A. It should be also noted that fighting is much more pronounced as core element than ever before, making large chunks of game consisting mostly with lots of shooting. Stealthed or not, but it's still carnage instead of puzzles.
Now I'm not really sure if this can qualify for a trope or it's just an opinion and a flawed one (I'm with this series for over 14 years). But the game is so much packed with action that in few moments it looks like it's gonna reach final soon and then the stake is bid even higher. It's not bad, but it could really benefit with some tiny breather moments (like in previous instalments) to fully comprehend what crazy stuff just happend instead of going for even more action. I'm also not really convinced with pararell toward action movie, but I couldn't find any better comparison in English. Lastly, I really don't want to look like a bashing on the game. Actionized or not, it's still Tomb Raider in core elements. And if it does looks like bashing, then it's my more or less limited vocabulary than anything intentional.
Please, help
edited 19th Mar '13 3:56:27 PM by RysioPysio

Can someone help me with this Playing with page for Famed in Story?
edited 25th Feb '13 9:13:07 AM by Ciabella