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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#7551: Aug 2nd 2020 at 8:37:12 AM

[up][up] @jOSEFdelaville

Despite the show being a world of puppet funny animals, the kangaroos look like normal non-disguised humans.

Shortly after Scrapeface is separated from his hands, he rubs his face on the wall so hard that his face gets torn off and his skull becomes visible.

In the 16th book, there is an illustration representing the Spring season with the teacher showing a bird to her students while her face is covered by said bird's poop.<- period

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#7552: Aug 2nd 2020 at 8:46:28 AM

[up][up] @Stardust 120

Changed verb tenses from past to present as per How to Write an Example - Write in Historical Present Tense.

Older Than They Look: In Presea's Symphonia version <- no comma she stops aging from experiments performed on her, but in this version, her growth spurt is from drinking an unknown medicine from a healer to make her body stronger and healthy.

Presea thinks cutting off her sister's arm will spare her life from being killed by the Enforcer, but she is the reason for Alica's incarnation of Sin manifesting and devouring her.

^ "spare her life" and "from being killed" are redundant. You only need one.

Edited by Arivne on Aug 3rd 2020 at 8:45:50 AM

Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#7553: Aug 2nd 2020 at 9:00:19 AM

For MGCM YMMV section:

  • Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy: The incidents which occur from the end of Chapter 4 to the end of Chapter 6 in the main story are guilty of this, when some heroines die all over again and in some cases, corrupted into demons, in the unwinnable battle and "Groundhog Day" Loop takes place in those moments. Although it’s foreshadowed by Akisa during the first time loop, which states that there are a lot of demons in that said battle location, Omnis left too early before he could notice it. Before and during the time-loops, Tobio, being a male player protagonist, is too hasty and immediately logs in to disguise himself as Omnis before even Kamisaman could explain something crucial to him completely. That doesn’t help when Kamisaman finally explains the thing in Chapter 7 Episode 2, which is revealed that the heroines’ deaths and corruptions didn’t get undo by the time loop at all because "Groundhog Day" Loop or any time manipulations don’t exist, but Omnis has the ability only to teleport himself into identical alternate universes where the identical copies of the heroines are alive and intact, after he wishes that he doesn’t want any heroines die after some heroines die. Because of this, a few players might be afraid if Diabolus ex Machina happened again to the heroines as they have to witness their onscreen deaths again. Nice job breaking it, Tobio!

Edited by Minorica on Aug 4th 2020 at 2:31:59 AM

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
Josh1999 Since: Jun, 2020
#7554: Aug 2nd 2020 at 9:06:35 AM

Michael Katsuro can you also go over these and add them to Western Animation

Under the Billy and Mandy example;

  • Pud'N usually has awful things happen to him on each episode he appears in such having his arms and legs eaten, getting attacked by a Killer Rabbit, choking to death after swallowing a remote, and having a cactus lunged into his eye.

  • The title character from Johnny Bravo has suffered several humiliating and Amusing Injuries such as getting smashed into several small pieces, getting electrocuted, getting crushed by a fat man, getting attacked by a cat, getting stomped on by elephants, getting ran over by a stampede of buffalo, getting mauled to death by a tiger, blowing up, having his butt set on fire, getting beaten up by a rhino, getting launched into outer space, getting flattened by a giant hammer, getting pinched by a crab, getting struck by lightning, having his butt bitten by a clown, getting chased by a bull, and getting attacked and disowned by several women that he tries to flirt with.

  • Alexandra Cabot from Josie and the Pussycats has suffered throughout most of the show at least Once per Episode such as failing to get Alan's attention, trying to outstage Josie but keeps failing in different humiliating ways, getting stuck in a log, having a bucket of glue stuck on her head, falling down in a frozen, getting dunked on from a water pitcher, getting attacked by a tiger, and falling down an elevator shaft.

Under the Looney Tunes entry;

  • Porky Pig usually finds himself as this every now and then since he has to deal with most of the antics from the other characters, especially from Daffy and Charlie.

Can you also fix the Courage example? You have an _ at the end of Courage the Cowardly Dog instead of a : and you had ** in front of Courage's name as well.

Edited by Josh1999 on Aug 2nd 2020 at 9:10:42 AM

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#7555: Aug 2nd 2020 at 10:20:36 AM

  • The title character from Johnny Bravo suffers several humiliating and Amusing Injuries. Among other things, he gets smashed into several small pieces, crushed by a fat man, attacked by a cat, stomped on by elephants, run over by stampeding buffalo, mauled to death by a tiger, electrocuted, blown up, beaten up by a rhino, launched into outer space, flattened by a giant hammer, pinched by a crab and struck by lightning. He gets bitten by a clown and has his butt set on fire, and is attacked by several women that he tries to flirt with.

(I removed "disowned" since it seems a bit misplaced.)

Edited by MichaelKatsuro on Aug 2nd 2020 at 7:23:49 PM

brb1006 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#7556: Aug 2nd 2020 at 12:59:17 PM

Bambi Heartwarming

  • In 2011, The View was able to get Donnie Dunagan (Young Bambi) and Peter Behn (Young Thumper) to meet each other for the first time. Prior to this, neither of them ever seen each other since both voiced their characters separately.
  • While Donnie Dunagan has been quiet about voicing Bambi during his youth. In later years of his life, he's become very open about voicing the character and actually proud of playing the role.
  • In interviews, Donnie Dunagan loves talking about veterans from the The Vietnam War and former soldiers who served during the United States Martin Corps discovering that their drill sergeant was actually the voice of Bambi (which he keep a secret for 50 years). Every Veterans Day, he would receive letters and mail from former veterans and children thanking him not only for his service. But for voicing Bambi who has been a childhood icon for many Americans. During the 75th anniversary of the film, he discussed how the film has impacted their lives alongside Peter Behn.
    Donnie Dunagan (holding a drawing of Bambi): To reinforce this with you. Five years ago, nine years ago, last week okay? We still get these kinds of things from children on their Nishimoto ver. Show me another film anywhere almost any country okay. But has that kind of presence that kind of influence, kicking around children. (puts the drawing down)
  • As of 2020, Donnie Dunagan (Young Bambi) and Peter Behn (Thumper) are not only the last surviving members of the voice cast. But the fact that they (alongside Kathryn Beaumont) are the only members left from the Walt era. The fact that the voice actors behind Young Bambi and Thumper are still alive is heartwarming in a poetic way knowing Bambi and Thumper's friendship.

Edited by brb1006 on Aug 2nd 2020 at 12:22:08 PM

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#7557: Aug 2nd 2020 at 11:47:25 PM

brb: Honestly, you're shoehorning a bit. Take the last example, just to pick one: The voice actor of a movie not being dead isn't really a heartwarming thing about the movie itself, or even about its production.

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#7558: Aug 3rd 2020 at 12:38:21 AM

Minorica: I'm happy to fix your entry's English, but may I suggest that you shorten it down a bit first? A lot of it seems to be more about Nice Job Breaking It, Hero! things and not about Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy.

Here's how I would have written the entry:

  • In chapter 4 and 6, some heroines die all over again and in some cases, are corrupted into demons, after which they're resurrected by the "Groundhog Day" Loop. On their own, all the recurring deaths can be emotionally taxing for the audience. And then, it turns out that the "time loop" was actually just a case of moving to an alternate dimension, and that nobody got resurrected. That sting of false hope can be the last straw for players who didn't expect that level of darkness.

I'm not trying to say that you have to phrase things this way specifically. My point is, entries need to be concise.

What I mean is, we do need to know what kind of dark things happen. But we don't need to know the exact circumstances of why Tobio doesn't find out about them earlier.

Edited by MichaelKatsuro on Aug 3rd 2020 at 9:45:10 PM

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jOSEFdelaville Since: Dec, 2018
#7560: Aug 3rd 2020 at 3:54:51 AM

Telepath RPG

  • Off-Model: Anya's characters portrait show her having untied brown hair while her sprites show her having red hair and a ponytail.
(I'm not sure how to word that one better but I'm sure there is a way)

Telepath RPG: Servants of God

  • The Medic: Set's role, he mostly have healing skills and does not have any offensive skills because he's a pacifist.
  • Sliding Scale of Gameplay and Story Integration: The fact that the solid state shield skill cannot be used on an occupied tile is justified by Set's pacifist nature since using this kind of shield on someone would suffocate them to death and he refuses to harm anyone.

The Frollo Show

  • Captive Audience: In Friends Story, Wilford Brimley teleports the friends team to a theater playing "The Wilford Brimley Show", every friends is forced on their seats by a pair of Wilford arms which can't be destroyed because of their Healing Factor.

The Frollo Show - Villains (Hades)

  • Blunt "Yes": Gives one to Scanty when she asks if he's genuinely laughing at Adal Ramones' joke.

Tintin - Characters

Rastapopulos:

  • Even Evil Has Standards: While he have no problems killing people to achieve his goals and is fine with killing his own henchemen once they become useless, he's not interested in torture and told Dr. Krollspell to quickly uses his Truth Serum on Carreidas because he doesn't like seeing people suffer.

Dr. Muller:

  • Better to Die than Be Killed: He would rather shoot himself than being tortured to death by the emir, he fails at killing himself but he still avoid being tortured.

  • Bungled Suicide: He tries to shoot himself to avoid being captured by the Emir and being tortured to a slow and painful death, it fails because it was an toy gun that shoot ink.

Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#7561: Aug 3rd 2020 at 6:40:18 AM

Oh, I see... I thought it only occurs on certain episode or something... Thanks Michael Katsuro and Fighteer.

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#7562: Aug 3rd 2020 at 8:59:41 AM

[up] x 6 @brb1006

Prior to this, neither of them had ever seen each other...

While Donnie Dunagan has been quiet about voicing Bambi during his youth ,<- comma in his later years of his life, he's become...

In interviews, Donnie Dunagan loves talking about veterans from the The Vietnam War and former soldiers who served with the United States Marine Corps discovering that their drill sergeant was actually the voice of Bambi (which he kept a secret for 50 years). Every Veterans Day, he would receive letters and mail from former veterans and children thanking him not only for his service but for voicing Bambi,<- comma who has been a childhood icon for many Americans. During the 75th anniversary of the film, he and Peter Behn discussed...

As of 2020, Donnie Dunagan (Young Bambi) and Peter Behn (Thumper) are not only the last surviving members of the voice cast,<- comma but are the fact that they (alongside Kathryn Beaumont) are the only members left from the Walt era. The fact that the voice actors behind Young Bambi and Thumper are still alive is heartwarming in a poetic way,<- comma considering Bambi and Thumper's friendship.

Edited by Arivne on Aug 4th 2020 at 5:05:51 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#7563: Aug 3rd 2020 at 9:26:36 AM

[up][up][up] @jOSEFdelaville

Anya's character portrait shows her having untied brown hair,<- comma while...

Set's role.<- period He mostly has healing skills and not offensive skills because he's a pacifist.

The fact that the solid state shield skill cannot be used on an occupied tile is justified by Set's pacifist nature,<- comma since using...

In "Friends Story", Wilford Brimley teleports the friends team to a theater playing "The Wilford Brimley Show".<- period Every friend is forced into their seats by a pair of Wilford arms,<- comma which can't be destroyed because of their Healing Factor.

Gives one to Scanty when she asks if he's genuinely laughing at Adal Ramones's joke.

While he has no problem killing people to achieve his goals and is fine with killing his own henchmen once they...

He would rather shoot himself than be tortured to death by the emir.<- period He fails at killing himself but he still avoids being tortured.

He tries to shoot himself to avoid being captured by the Emir and being tortured to a slow and painful death.<- period His attempt fails because he tried to use a toy gun that shoots ink.

Edited by Arivne on Aug 4th 2020 at 5:07:23 AM

jOSEFdelaville Since: Dec, 2018
#7564: Aug 3rd 2020 at 10:27:31 AM

^ Are you sure it should be "not offensive skills" instead of "no offensive skills" ? I mean than he cannot learn any offensive skills that's why I say he have "no offensive skills".

Also the character is named Adal Ramones with an S so should it really be Ramone's instead of Ramones' ?

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#7565: Aug 4th 2020 at 1:55:42 AM

Alexandra Cabot from Josie and the Pussycats. At least Once per Episode something awful happens to her, like her failing to get Alan's attention, trying to upstage Josie but failing in various humiliating ways, getting stuck in a log, having a bucket of glue stuck on her head, getting attacked by a tiger and falling down an elevator shaft.

Josh1999 Since: Jun, 2020
#7566: Aug 4th 2020 at 9:31:26 AM

Michael Katsuro for Mean Boss under the Western Animation folder;

  • Stanley Livingston from Tennessee Tuxedo and His Tales due to the fact that he has to put up with most of Tennessee and Chumley's antics even when telling them not and usually punishes at the end such as making them clean pots and pans, shoveling coal, and washing laundry.
  • Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi has Kaz who is money hungry and a huge cheapskate, though he does experience Laser-Guided Karma most of the time for most of his acts.

Can you also remove the two % in front of the KaBlam! example on Western Animation and add two ' at the beginning and end of Josie and the Pussycats as well?

Edited by Josh1999 on Aug 4th 2020 at 10:57:07 AM

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#7567: Aug 4th 2020 at 12:47:44 PM

Sorry about missing the italics! But I can't remove the percentage marks, since they're there to remove the KaBlam! example, due to it lacking any context at all.

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#7568: Aug 4th 2020 at 1:01:58 PM

Tennessee Tuxedo and His Tales: Stanley Livingston has to put up with most of Tennessee and Chumley's antics, even when he tells them to knock it off. Usually, he punishes them at the end by making them do chores like cleaning pots and pans, shoveling coal, and washing laundry.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#7569: Aug 4th 2020 at 5:16:15 PM

[up] x 5 @jOSEFdelaville

"no offensive skills": Feel free to do it that way if you wish.

If his name is Ramones, it should be " Ramones's".

Edited by Arivne on Aug 4th 2020 at 5:16:21 AM

Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#7570: Aug 4th 2020 at 7:31:42 PM

For MGCM:

  • Cast of Snowflakes: Besides Tobio, Kamisaman and the 12 heroines, a few citizen NPCs tend to have various appearance, such as the stranger with a hoodie, a woman, a businessman, the quizmaster, a man with light brown hair, even one of Iroha’s classmates also has a name Naitou-san.
  • Gameplay Automation: This game has autoplay button, which allows players to perform Level Grinding without holding and keep watching the game.
  • Rooftop Confrontation: Sometimes the heroines fight demons who appear on top of the buildings.


    For Marianne Okada in MGCM character page:
  • Verbal Tic: She sometimes add "su"(ス)at the end or the middle of the sentence.

Edited by Minorica on Aug 6th 2020 at 2:25:47 AM

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#7571: Aug 5th 2020 at 1:25:17 AM

  • Gameplay Automation: The game has an autoplay button, which allows players to perform Level Grinding without having to keep watching the game.
  • Rooftop Confrontation: Sometimes the heroines fight demons who appear on top of buildings.

For Marianne Okada in MGCM character page:

  • Verbal Tic: She sometimes adds "su"(ス)to the end or middle of her sentences.

I skipped the "cast of snowflakes" one since it wasn't clear enough about if it's really an example or not.

jOSEFdelaville Since: Dec, 2018
#7572: Aug 5th 2020 at 1:44:32 AM

[up][up][up] @Arivne

Alternatively, I could write is as "He mostly has healing skills and does not have any offensive skills..."

Did I write it well ?

Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#7573: Aug 5th 2020 at 2:53:05 AM

Thank you so much, Michael Katsuro.grin

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#7574: Aug 5th 2020 at 5:05:44 AM

For MGCM YMMV

  • Periphery Demographic: Although this game is oriented for men due to some female protagonists with heavy fanservices and there’s an NSFW version, this game has a few female players also, due to vivid themes and cute heroines.
  • Song Association: Because this game only uses GANG PARADE's songs as background musics, some players associate GANG PARADE's songs with MGCM.
For MGCM main page:

Edited by Minorica on Aug 5th 2020 at 11:58:22 PM

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
Stardust120 Since: May, 2019
#7575: Aug 5th 2020 at 8:10:07 AM

Tales of Crestoria Characters

  • Nothing Up My Sleeve: Yuna wields a pair of daggers hidden under her sleeves.
  • Dying as Yourself: After Mibaru in his monster form is killed by the villagers of Dalchia, he change back in to his original human form and thanks Cress for everything before he passed away.

Doom Patrol Characters

  • All Lesbians Want Kids: Cliff's daughter Clara is a lesbian and she is planning to marry her partner Melissa and raise their unborn son together.
  • Hand on Womb: Clara put her hands close to her lower stomach when Cliff tries to give her daughter her late birthday gift. Cliff found out her daughter is pregnant after he saw a bunch of baby shower gifts in her house.

Edited by Stardust120 on Aug 5th 2020 at 8:47:47 AM


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