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This thread is for tropers who have trouble with English and would like some help with the crazy grammar of this crazy language.

Write down what you wish to edit on the wiki. If you have been suspended from editing, another troper might be kind enough to edit for you after your suggestions have been corrected.

The thread is for help and feedback on your own suggested edits.

If you want help correcting other people's edits (e.g., if you find a page which seems to have grammar problems but want a second opinion, or you don't feel able to fix it by yourself) then that's off-topic here, but we have a separate Grammar Police cleanup thread that can provide assistance.

Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#6226: Aug 12th 2019 at 10:22:57 AM

~FigureGunplaFan, this post:

  • As seen in the image on this very page, Many fans frequently mock Rin's gender as her being a crossdressing boy since the first season's fourth episode.
    • If the image changes, the beginning phrase makes no sense. For that reason, it's better to leave it out.
    • You could use some additional context - why did this mockery begin on that particular episode?
    • There are no grammar issues.

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#6227: Aug 12th 2019 at 10:25:57 AM

~FigureGunplaFan, this post:

  • Memetic Badass: Akkun's actions of frequently taking down Yoshiko give another other gender equality followers (Touma) /Thot-slayers (Kazuma) a run for their money.
    • The noun-verb have to match ("Akkun's actions...give", since it is a plural noun). If it were "Akkun's action", then it would be "Akkun's action...gives..."
    • I don't understand what "gender equality followers / Thot-slayers" is supposed to mean.

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#6228: Aug 12th 2019 at 10:29:13 AM

~FigureGunplaFan, this post:

  • Memetic Loser: Poor Karen Hojo will never catch a break, as her weak body makes her a subject for mockery, on whether she'll die from collapse, or if she's a ghost that who already died long before.
    • "that" is to be used for objects; "who" is to be used for people.

FigureGunplaFan Since: Oct, 2013
#6229: Aug 12th 2019 at 10:30:17 AM

to nombretomado: Responding to this comment

Then how about:

Akkun's actions of frequently taking down Yoshiko give other characters like Touma and Kazuma a run for their money.

Edited by FigureGunplaFan on Aug 13th 2019 at 12:35:13 AM

Contributor for Gunpla Wiki. Currently suspended due to extensive writing issues. PS: I only wrote down what I saw. (audience reactions etc)
nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#6230: Aug 12th 2019 at 10:32:55 AM

~FigureGunplaFan, this post:

  • Memetic Mutation: Try not to laugh if you spell and/or say Xerxes' name backwards.
    • If you are creating a pair of verbs, the tense should match, i.e. both present tense, or both past tense. Since the rules are to write in historical present tense, this should be "spell and/or say" (not "spelled and/or said").

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#6231: Aug 12th 2019 at 10:33:18 AM

[up][up]Grammatically, it's fine, but now you have a lack of context problem.

FigureGunplaFan Since: Oct, 2013
#6232: Aug 12th 2019 at 10:35:40 AM

Responding to this comment

OK, how about...

"Many fans frequently mock Rin's gender as her being a crossdressing boy since the first season's fourth episode, as the three boys in Rin's flashback made fun of her wearing a skirt."

Contributor for Gunpla Wiki. Currently suspended due to extensive writing issues. PS: I only wrote down what I saw. (audience reactions etc)
nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#6233: Aug 12th 2019 at 10:37:31 AM

~FigureGunplaFan, this post:

  • Take That!: Parodied with Tsuki's debut in the movie: the reveal of her true gender surprises many people (both in-and-out of universe) who expected her to be a male character both in-and-out of universe.
    • The placement of the "both in-and-out of universe" in your write-up is off. Tagging it at the end implies it is the being a male character that is both in-and-out of universe, when you are actually trying to say that the audience in-and-out of universe is surprised.
    • You also need improved context, to explain how this is an example of Take That!, and how it's parodied.

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#6234: Aug 12th 2019 at 10:38:05 AM

[up][up]"when the three boys in Rin's flashback made fun of her for wearing a skirt"

Edited by nombretomado on Aug 12th 2019 at 10:39:27 AM

FigureGunplaFan Since: Oct, 2013
#6235: Aug 12th 2019 at 10:44:06 AM

Also, wrong date for the image caption for the Love Live's Memetic Loser page, as the screencap of the episode is aired in 2013.

Contributor for Gunpla Wiki. Currently suspended due to extensive writing issues. PS: I only wrote down what I saw. (audience reactions etc)
nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#6236: Aug 12th 2019 at 10:51:35 AM

~FigureGunplaFan, this post:

FigureGunplaFan Since: Oct, 2013
#6237: Aug 12th 2019 at 10:59:24 AM

To nombretomado: Responding to this comment

The fourth and last example is not needed.

Edited by FigureGunplaFan on Aug 13th 2019 at 2:01:03 AM

Contributor for Gunpla Wiki. Currently suspended due to extensive writing issues. PS: I only wrote down what I saw. (audience reactions etc)
RoundRobin Since: Jun, 2018
#6238: Aug 12th 2019 at 11:27:26 AM

I was reading Correction Bait and the following sentence gave me pause. Is it grammatically correct? I emphasized the part that tripped me up.

[...]to an enough picky/smart audience, there's always something that can still be corrected.

Personally, I'd have gone with: "[..] to a picky/smart enough audience [...]", but since the above is part of the trope description (and therefore has been approved by someone, right?), I thought I'd check with this thread before making any "corrections".

- Fly, robin, fly! - ...I'm trying!
Zuxtron Berserk Button: misusing Nightmare Fuel from Node 03 (On A Trope Odyssey)
#6239: Aug 12th 2019 at 11:35:14 AM

[up] It does sound weird. It could also be changed to "To a sufficiently picky/smart audience".

Edited by Zuxtron on Aug 12th 2019 at 2:36:23 PM

mlsmithca (Edited uphill both ways)
#6240: Aug 12th 2019 at 12:24:19 PM

[up] I've edited in Zuxtron's version. The phrase "an enough [adjective] [noun]" is bad grammar - and it's apparently been there since 2012. Ironically, the editor who inflicted that phrase on the page also corrected the deliberate "Decribe Correction Bait here" spelling error and the commented out note saying the spelling error was deliberate.

RoundRobin Since: Jun, 2018
#6241: Aug 12th 2019 at 12:38:26 PM

[up] It's been that way since 2012? And in all this time nobody reading the page —which is about correcting mistakes— thought to fix it? Wow.

Anyway, thank you both for the help :)

Edited by RoundRobin on Aug 12th 2019 at 10:39:26 PM

- Fly, robin, fly! - ...I'm trying!
nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#6242: Aug 12th 2019 at 4:31:05 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]Don't forget to remove the "also" in the second sub-bullet.

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#6243: Aug 12th 2019 at 4:32:23 PM

~FigureGunplaFan, this post:

The grammar is fine, but I question the second bulletpoint - is it confirmed that this is why the cameos didn't happen?

Also, "small cameo appearance" is redundant, since cameos are by definition small.

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#6244: Aug 12th 2019 at 4:36:48 PM

~FigureGunplaFan:

This edit isn't going to be added, since there is already an entry for Box-Office Bomb on Trivia.Godzilla King Of The Monsters 2019.

These two were already addressed by other tropers.

This post: I don't see any grammar issues here, but, again, your context is lacking on how it was emphasized.

This, this, and this were responded to by another troper.

I have to say, a lot of your issues go beyond just grammar.

Edited by nombretomado on Aug 12th 2019 at 4:38:06 AM

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#6245: Aug 12th 2019 at 4:39:22 PM

~FigureGunplaFan, this post:

  • Alternative Character Interpretation: Is Tsuki an undercover spy working for the Ohara family? Some of her actions (like picking up a random call from a phone booth, ignoring the wanted poster of the Third Years, and her politely bowing to Mrs. Ohara) may have raised some eyebrows. However, as she began to support Aqours after visiting Italy, this might have indicated that she finally forgets her duty as a spy in the progress.

This seems more like a WMG than anything else, especially given that you tried to add this exact thing as a WMG already.

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#6246: Aug 12th 2019 at 4:45:27 PM

~FigureGunplaFan, this post:

  • Alternative Character Interpretation: Regarding A-RISE's losing to µ's after their performance in the UTX Academy's rooftop: did the former not expect them to win the preliminaries, or did one of their members (mainly Tsubasa) intentionally let them win for her rival's (Honoka) sake?
    • The pronouns here are pretty vague. Whose performance was this?

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#6247: Aug 12th 2019 at 4:51:18 PM

~FigureGunplaFan, this post:

Edited by nombretomado on Aug 12th 2019 at 4:51:28 AM

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#6248: Aug 12th 2019 at 5:42:44 PM

~FigureGunplaFan, this post:

  • Fandom Rivalry: Some of the Monsterverse fans also developed a rivalry with the Marvel Cinematic Universe fandom for several reasons; the former also accused the latter franchise's popularity being responsible for overtaking the resurgence of the giant monster genre, and the box office disappointment of one of their movies due to the oversaturation of the MCU films.
    • Please stop using "also"/"too"/"in addition" in your write-ups when you are using it to refer to other examples.
    • You're asserting there are "several reasons", but not listing any of them.
    • I'm not sure what "overtaking the resurgence" is trying to say, especially if it's something other than the oversaturation described immediately after.

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#6249: Aug 12th 2019 at 5:43:34 PM

~FigureGunplaFan, this post:

  • Some felt that Ali al-Saachez could have been a better main antagonist of the series if the story wasn't hindered by the reveal of the Innovators or the ELSes in the later seasons.

This lacks context.

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#6250: Aug 12th 2019 at 5:46:39 PM

~FigureGunplaFan, this post:

  • "EAT PIE, SAY EAT PIE"[[labelnote:explanation]] A mondegreen of "Ippai seiippai" (translated as "one's best effort"), as heard in the Mitaiken HORIZON song.
    • Is Mitaeken HORIZON a group/musician name, or a name of the song?


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