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~FigureGunplaFan, this post:

• Nozomi◊ teleporting behind Nico in the speed of light◊.
  • This has no grammar issues, but is zero context.

• Some of the parts may make let fans immediately squeal for a at the Jojos Bizarre Adventure references:
  • Every time Nozomi pulls out one of her Tarot cards: (The Star).◊
  • This moment in the first season's 8th episode pretty much reminds some fans of a scene of Jotaro standing behind Dio◊.

Those are not HSQ examples. If anything, they're Shout Outs.

• As with the previous series, many Jojos Bizarre Adventure fans are also surprised that some of the main characters pulled a number of references and similar gestures from the manga.
  • That whole section also doesn't seem to fit HSQ and should be cut.

• Better Than Canon: Most of the franchise's unofficial yuri doujins are pretty much this. The vanilla hetero doujins, on the other hand, are mostly averted (if not subverted).
  • Aversions (and subversions) are a Playing With, and can't be used for Audience Reactions, which is what Better Than Canon is.
  • It seems completely unnecessary to snipe at other fan works, and comes across as included just to make the yuri doujins sound

• It also needs more context overall.

• Memetic Badass: In a stark contrast to every other male background characters in the series, Honoka's dad is often joked as the strongest sole surviving male character in the Love Live! universe. The rest of the on-screen male characters (Cotaro, and the other fathers in Sunshine!!), on the other hand, are an entirely different matter.

• Ron the Death Eater: Despite Riko's status as being a Launcher of a Thousand Ships, some (if not, most) fans also portray Riko as a Bitch in Sheep's Clothing when it comes to stealing Chika's heart while also fiddling with You's feelings for Chika and taking Yoshiko away from Hanamaru.
  • "When it comes to stealing..." - is this something that actually happened in canon? Or is it a common fanon interpretation? This lacks clarity.

• Mondegreen: One of Mari's lines "嫉妬ファイヤー"^note Translated as "Flames of Jealously" seriously sounds like "shit fire".
  • The capitalization isn't necessary on "shit fire".
  • The note is for "Flames of Jealously". Is it actually that, or is it "Flames of Jealousy"?

Your correction is wrong. How to Write an Example states that examples should be written in historical present tense.

Edited by nombretomado on Jul 13th 2019 at 8:55:48 AM

~FigureGunplaFan, this post and this one:

I disagree on creating MemeticBadass.Love Live. While we don't have a hard number to qualify for a subpage, on general rule of thumb is if you have to scroll down to see all the examples.

• The Love Live! franchise
  • Yoshino Nanjo's young-looking appearance in her 30's makes her is often seen as an "immortal vampire" by many.
  • Several of the fans have a tendency to portray every µ's member as absurdly powerful characters, ''as in the likes of other Shounen mangas.
  • And then there's Chika, mostly thanks to how she was portrayed in the April Fools' puppet show, where she got to subject Kanan (the physically strongest member of Aqours) to a No-Holds-Barred Beatdown, fought a gigantic coelacanth on her own before kissing it and it transformed into Ruby, and remorselessly headbutting Ruby afterwards before convincing her to join her school idol group.
  • Pretty much The entire concept of "School Idols" in the show, where people see them as powerful deities when they randomly sing by singing a song randomly at some point,. which also gathers many crowds by Their Japanese-language songs gather many crowds, whether they're Japanese or foreign (like Americans or Italians). Likewise, one song from those idols would convince even an objective parent to change their minds.
  • Due to Eli's (and sometimes Arisa's) quarter Russian blood, expect most of the fans to juxtapose her with everything Russian related, like portraying her as a powerful and commanding leader/dictator. Likewise, the "Rush B" Joke is also used as her strategy.
  • In a stark contrast to every other male background characters in the series, Honoka's dad is often joked as the strongest sole surviving male character in the Love Live! universe. The rest of the on-screen male characters (Cotaro, and the other fathers in Sunshine!!), on the other hand, are an entirely different matter.
  • Due to her Big Eater status, Hanamaru is often portrayed as such, as many fans see her possessing an extremely high metabolism or a black hole in her mouth or stomach.
  • In a rather degrading example: Chika is often seen as a dominator of all centers for every song released.
  • Aqours is seen as a walking force of nature that gives Honoka a run for her money, as fans believe that Aqours causes disasters before (or after) arriving at their destinations for live events.

I struck the second example because it seems more of a general example, especially when there is a named character (Chika) getting significantly more detail. This is why she has been moved to her own indentation/example. If there are other µ members who get this treatment, it needs to be explained.

The "School Idols" example sounds like it's In-Universe. Is that the case?

Edited by nombretomado on Jul 13th 2019 at 11:37:56 AM

~FigureGunplaFan, this post:

• Awesomeness Withdrawal states outright that examples should go to Gushing About Shows You Like. And, again, something can't be subverted if it's an Audience Reaction. This is at least the third time I've told you this. Please take it to heart.

• Germans Love David Hasselhoff: In terms of fanart and memes, the crossover between the franchise and Jojos Bizarre Adventure is well-liked outside Japan, especially given the absurdity of putting ultra masculine Jojo characters next to Love Live's cute and all-female idols. Many examples can be found on a dedicated subreddit r/Otonokizaka.

~FigureGunplaFan, this request should be made in the locked pages thread, since you are not asking for any grammatical review.

~FigureGunplaFan, this post:

• Genre Turning Point: Kurata's death by vehicle crash inspired a recurring plot device (notably with an Isuzu truck) for reincarnation-themed Isekai light novels.
  • Introducing a plot device does not significantly change the genre as a whole.
  • However, this has no grammatical issues.

• Seinfeld Is Unfunny: While many of the light novel readers find the "death by truck crash" prologue as an commonly interesting start for most isekai novels, but given on how notoriously common the idea has become, some others may find this example to be one as extremely overused & annoying.

Sometimes a licensing is better than writing an original piece of work. And if you have good tastes in music you may know some perfect obscure song for the work it can experience that song to a new group of people. But be careful as the song may be too obscure, as people may mistake it as an original song.

Accidental Theme Song is when an obscure song becomes popularized by a piece of media that it becomes heavily associated with it. Many will not know it was an original song before it, and in fact, many will think it was written for that piece of media or will become so ingrained with the image of the media that when people hear that song, they think of that piece of media. Accidental Theme Song doesn’t have to be a theme song, it can just be a song that is popularized by that piece of media.

It is related to the Forgotten Trope. It is very similar to the “The Weird al effect” as it’s referencing a piece of media that people don’t realize is referencing. This is usually a result of “Older then they think,” but not always but isn’t still, differs from “Pop culture osmosis” where the song becomes so iconic and used that people forget the song.

EX.

Anime and manga

Most Japanese and anime fans would think the song” Green Green” was written for the series nichijou, when in actuality it’s an American folk song from the 60s by The New Christy Minstrels

Movies-live action

The Dick Dale rock n roll instrumental “Misirlou” has become the theme to Pulp Fiction, in fact, it is often called the Pulp Fiction Theme. Most people don’t realize it was written in the 1960s let alone know it’s based on ancient Egyptian song.

Both the “Sound of Silence” and “Mrs. Robison” falls into this trope. Many including film enthusiast think they the song was written for the classic American film The Graduate when in actuality they weren’t, It was on the top billboard charts for weeks before they added the editors, added it to the movie. Many probably think this becuse the practice of adding songs from the radio in movies was rare at the time.

The song “Sing In The Rain” was a song used in many MGM musicals before it was used in Singing in the rain, but everyone thinks of Gene Kelly dancing in the rain when they hear it rather than the other times it was used.

“Smile Darn ya smile” is a novelty song from 1931, not written for “Who Framed Roger rabbit” but if you sang it.

Western animation- film

The most infamous case is “All-Star” with Shrek. Many people to this day think it as the Shrek song, despite the music video including clips from Mystery Men and being used in the Digimon movie a year before. Which is ironic considering All-star was never ment to be in the film, to begin with!

Western animation -television

The Finnish folk song” Matalii Ja Mustii” is known as The Binky Song, to anyone not finish, because of its uses in Arthur. In the episodes Binky rules and Meet Binky, the obscure Finnish folk song is used as the new hit pop song from the new hit band Binky. Why the Staff of Arthur choice this song of all songs to be the in-universe hit single, is still unknown.

The theme to Looney tunes “The Merry-Go-Round Broke Down” was an original with actual lyrics; the almost no one knows that

Real Life- Often called “Here Comes The Bride,” the song Bridal Chorus is the traditional song played at weddings when the bride is walking down the aisle. One would think, this song was written for this even when, it was actually written for an obscure 1850’s opera called Lohengrin. It became stable after Queen Victoria’s daughters played it at her wedding. The irony is the song is actually is a song of tragedy, as in the opera, this is song right before the bride commits suicide.

Put song titles in standard quotes as per How to Write an Example - Emphasis For Work Names.

Sometimes paying for a license to an existing work is better than writing an original piece of work. And If you have good taste in music, <- comma you may know some obscure song that is perfect for the work so it can introduce the experience of that song to a new group of people. But be careful, <- comma as the song may be so obscure that people may mistake it for an original song.

This trope is when an obscure song becomes so popularized by a media work that it becomes heavily associated with it. Many will not know it was an original song before it, and in fact, many will think it was written for that piece of media or will become so ingrained with the image of the media that when they hear that song, they think of that piece of media. An example of this trope doesn’t have to be a theme song, it can just be a song that is popularized by that piece of media.

^ De-Red Linked Circular Link titles in the Description as per Linking to an Article Within the Article.

It is related to the Forgotten Trope. It is very similar to the the Weird Al Effect, <- comma as it’s referencing a piece of media that people don’t realize it is referencing. This is usually a result of Older Than They Think, but not always. <- period It differs from Pop Culture Osmosis, <- comma where the song becomes so iconic and commonly used that people forget the original source.

Anime and Manga

Most Japanese and anime fans would think the song "Green Green" was written for the series Nichijou, when in actuality it’s an American folk song from the 60s by The New Christy Minstrels. <- period

Film - Live Action

The Dick Dale rock-n-roll instrumental "Misirlou" has become the theme to Pulp Fiction, in fact <- no comma it is often called the Pulp Fiction theme. Most people don’t realize it was written in the 1960s, <- comma let alone know it’s based on an ancient Egyptian song.

Both the "The Sound of Silence" and "Mrs. Robinson" fall into this trope. Many people, including film enthusiasts, <- comma think they the song was written for the classic American film The Graduate, <- comma when in actuality they weren’t. <- period They were on the top Billboard charts for weeks before the editors added them to the movie. Many probably think this because of the practice of adding songs from the radio to movies was rare at the time.

The song "Singing In The Rain" was a song used in many MGM musicals before it was used in the film Singin' in the Rain, but everyone thinks of Gene Kelly dancing in the rain when they hear it rather than the other times it was used.

"Smile Darn Ya Smile" is a novelty song from 1931, not written for Who Framed Roger Rabbit but if you sang it.

Film - Animated

The most infamous case is "All-Star" with Shrek. To this day, many people think of it as the Shrek song, despite the music video including clips from Mystery Men and being used in the Digimon movie a year before. Which is ironic, <- comma considering "All-Star" was never meant to be in the film <- no comma to begin with!

Western Animation

The Finnish folk song "Matalii Ja Mustii" is known as The Binky Song, to anyone not Finnish, because of its uses in Arthur. In the episodes "Binky Rules" and "Meet Binky", the obscure Finnish folk song is used as the new hit pop song from the new hit band Binky. Why the staff of Arthur chose this song of all songs to be the in-universe hit single <- no comma is still unknown.

The theme to Looney Tunes "The Merry-Go-Round Broke Down" was an original song with actual lyrics. <- period the Almost no one knows that

^ Almost no one knows that what?

Real Life

Often called "Here Comes The Bride", the song "Bridal Chorus" is the traditional song played at weddings when the bride is walking down the aisle. One would think <- no comma the song was written for this purpose, <- comma even though it was actually written for an obscure 1850’s opera called Lohengrin. It became a staple after Queen Victoria’s daughters played it at her wedding. The irony is the song is actually is a song of tragedy: <- colon as in the opera, this is the song right before the bride commits suicide.

Edited by Arivne on Jul 16th 2019 at 9:35:25 AM

To nombretomado: Responding to this comment

Just remove that Third Wheel example from the Broken Base and put it into Alternate Character Interpretation.

• Is Dia genuinely the Third Wheel in her group? Many fans note that she never seems to cause this kind of awkwardness, as she communicates with Kanan and Dia frequently. However, other fans point out that she is sometimes quietly left out and/or ignored by Kanan and Mari.

Edited by FigureGunplaFan on Jul 18th 2019 at 11:53:18 PM

To nombretomado

Grammar correction and slight update request for Love Live's Die For Our Ship page

Original:

• Both NozoEli (Garden of Glass) & UmiEli's (Storm in Lover) fans is one of the major examples for this trope: Even though the first Love Live! Anime series has ended, both sides still argue against each other on which of the two girls (Nozomi and Umi) that Eli should finally end up with. And again: one must realize that Umi is the one who wrote the lyrics for the songs, which means she is unintentionally responsible for the flame war.
  • EliUmi fans would add more fuel to the fire by repeatedly mention that the pairing began in the first PV to TV Anime (which showed several signs of the pairing), and one of the scenes in the opening sequence for the Final Live.
  • If one reads the School Idol Diary Novels/Manga adaptation, it barely helps that the books still has many NozoEli moments in it.
  • NozoEli shippers would later use the official art from the February 2016 issue of the Dengeki G's magazine as their "flag of victory", which most EliUmi fans strongly deny.

• In a minor extent, fans also debate on whether Nico or Tsubasa (thanks to that one brief moment in The School Idol Movie) should be the perfect girlfriend for Maki.

Corrected:

• Both NozoEli (Garden of Glass) & UmiEli's (Storm in Lover) fans are one of the major examples for this trope: Even though the first anime series ended, both shippers are still arguing against each other on which of the two girls (Nozomi and Umi) that Eli would finally end up with. And again, one must realize that Umi is the one who wrote the lyrics for the songs, which means that she's unintentionally responsible for the flame war.
  • EliUmi fans would add more fuel to the fire by repeatedly mentioning that signs of the pairing began from the first PV to TV Anime, and one of the scenes in the opening sequence for the Final Live.
  • If one reads the School Idol Diary Novels/Manga adaptation, it barely helps that the books still have many NozoEli moments in it.
  • NozoEli shippers would later use the official art from the February 2016 issue of Dengeki G's magazine as their "flag of victory", which most EliUmi fans strongly deny.

• In a minor extent, fans also debate whether Nico or Tsubasa should be the perfect girlfriend for Maki. It helps that Nico made an expression similar to one seeing a person stealing their love interest.

Edited by FigureGunplaFan on Jul 20th 2019 at 11:04:27 PM

Update request for SSSS.Gridman's YMMV page

• Fan Hater: Any person who only prioritizes their waifus (Rikka and/or Akane) over the titular character and the show's fight scenes will be looked down by some hardcore toku fans.

Edited by FigureGunplaFan on Jul 18th 2019 at 11:52:20 PM

Request Update for WMG / The Rise of Skywalker

[[WGM: The Resistance will Recover leftover New Republic ships and vehicles]] After the Destruction of the Hosnian system and the New Republic, The surviving senators decided to dissolve the remaining New Republic task forces to protect their own home worlds. And they put every of their remaining starships and vehicles in storage. However, the Resistance will recover the remaining vessels and vehicles that are not destroyed by the Starkiller, and use them against the First Order.

Edit: I thought this was the Locked Pages topic, not the Help with English topic. Carry on.

Edited by Fighteer on Jul 19th 2019 at 2:23:37 PM

To nombretomado

Batman Beyond's YMMV Page

• Harsher in Hindsight
  • Speaking of Jokerz, the first Episode has J-Man declaring his gang's name in front of Bruce before being beaten up. 17 years later, this was seen as a metaphor of the negative reception of Jared Leto's take of the Joker in Suicide Squad.

Edited by FigureGunplaFan on Jul 20th 2019 at 1:56:17 AM

here is what I want to put down on the page could someone here proofread it and correct the writing to follow the tv tropes standard the traitor will cause ibara shiozaki death ibara is a reference to jesus being a devout christian and Quirk is likely a reference to Jesus Christ and the ‘crown of thorns’ that was placed on his head. she even has a sort of crown of thorns This is also referenced in her hero name Maria, a reference to the latin name for the the Virgin Mary. Her birthday is September 8, which is also the birthday of Virgin Mary. Her Hero Costume consists of a plain white robe, which looks similar to the one worn by Jesus Christ. and the names of her attacks are references to christianity crucifixion shield of faith , via dolorosais the latin reference for the path by which jesus walked on his way to crucifixion.

plus there are her lines "Passing Judgement” “scheming sinners more religious allusions

and her referring to gevaudan as the beast of revelation/apocalypse

and jesus was captured and led to his death because of judas ( the traitor) who marked him as jesus by kissing him on the cheek

and if kaminari is the traitor it would be even more fitting given that he flirted with her multiple times

Edited by sdsaa on Jul 19th 2019 at 9:11:54 AM

To nombretomado

Love Live's Epileptic Trees page

Love Live!

• Many fans are pretty sure that Nozomi actually had "parfait" with Eli off-screen after she made that face.
• Fans imply that Kotori is a NicoMaki shipper as she provides a special drink for both of them during the Wonder zone segment◊.

Edited by FigureGunplaFan on Jul 20th 2019 at 7:22:24 PM

x 5 @Jesse 220

Changed verbs from past to present tense as per How to Write an Example - Write in Historical Present Tense.

WMG: The Resistance will recover leftover New Republic ships and vehicles. <- period

After the destruction of the Hosnian system and the New Republic, the surviving senators will decide to dissolve the remaining New Republic task forces to protect their own home worlds. And They will put every one of their remaining starships and vehicles in storage. However, the Resistance will recover the remaining vessels and vehicles that are not destroyed by the Starkiller, and use them against the First Order.

Edited by Arivne on Jul 20th 2019 at 12:45:26 PM

x 3 @sdsaa

The traitor will cause Ibara Shiozaki's death. <- period Ibara is a reference to Jesus being a devout Christian and Quirk is likely a reference to Jesus Christ and the "crown of thorns" that was placed on his head. She even has a sort of crown of thorns. <- period This is also referenced in her hero name Maria, a reference to the Latin name for the the Virgin Mary. Her birthday is September 8, which is also the birthday of the Virgin Mary. Her hero costume consists of a plain white robe, which looks similar to the one worn by Jesus Christ. and the names of her attacks are references to Christianity: crucifixion, <- comma shield of faith, <- no space via dolorosais (the Latin reference for the path by which Jesus walked on his way to the crucifixion).

Plus, there are her lines in "Passing Judgement": "scheming sinners (more religious allusions), <- comma and her referring to Gevaudan as the beast of Revelation/apocalypse. <- period Jesus was captured and led to his death because of Judas (the <- no space traitor) who marked him as Jesus by kissing him on the cheek. <- period If Kaminari is the traitor, <- comma it would be even more fitting, <- comma given that he flirted with her multiple times. <- period

Edited by Arivne on Jul 19th 2019 at 10:32:46 AM

To nombretomado

Love Live's Meme page

[[Folder:Love Live!]]

• Oh shit a guy ^explaination A sarcastic comment that is used to point out any on-screen background males in the show.

Hi, I just wanted to add something to the MRS Degree trope. In Latin America this is called an MMC career ("Mientras me caso" -Until I get married-).

Excuse me I need help with my English grammar in order to get unsuspended.

~FigureGunplaFan, this post:

• Both NozoEli (Garden of Glass) & UmiEli's (Storm in Lover) fans are one of the major examples for this trope: even though the first anime series has ended, both shippers are still arguing against each other on about which of the two girls (Nozomi and Umi) that Eli would finally end up with. And again, one must realize that since Umi is the one who wrote the lyrics for the songs, which means that she's unintentionally responsible for the flame war.
  • EliUmi fans would add more fuel to the fire by repeatedly mentioning that signs of the pairing began from the first PV to TV Anime, and one of the scenes in the opening sequence for the Final Live.
  • If one reads the School Idol Diary Novels/Manga adaptation, it barely helps that the books still have many NozoEli moments in it.
  • NozoEli shippers would later use the official art from the February 2016 issue of Dengeki G's magazine as their "flag of victory", which most EliUmi fans strongly deny.]]
• To a minor extent, fans also debate whether Nico or Tsubasa should be the perfect girlfriend for Maki. It helps that Nico made an expression similar to one seeing a person stealing their love interest.
  • The second-level entries for NozoEli are natter.
  • "It helps that Nico made an expression similar to one seeing a person stealing their love interest." needs rewriting to make it clear where this expression is coming from. The original write-up had a work reference (The School Idol Movie).

~FigureGunplaFan, this post:

Fan Hater is In-Universe Examples Only.

Edited by nombretomado on Jul 21st 2019 at 12:36:45 PM

~FigureGunplaFan this post:

"Harsher in Hindsight is a serious event, plotline, or comment where a later event (in the story or real life) comes up and only serves to amplify the already bitter-tasting effect."

The line being suggested is played comedically.

~FigureGunplaFan, this post:

Love Live!

• Many fans are pretty sure that Nozomi actually had "parfait" with Eli off-screen after she made that face.
• Fans infer that Kotori is a NicoMaki shipper as she provides a special drink for both of them during the Wonder zone segment◊.

~FigureGunplaFan, this post: It's "explanation".