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This thread is for tropers who have trouble with English and would like some help with the crazy grammar of this crazy language.

Write down what you wish to edit on the wiki. If you have been suspended from editing, another troper might be kind enough to edit for you after your suggestions have been corrected.

The thread is for help and feedback on your own suggested edits.

If you want help correcting other people's edits (e.g., if you find a page which seems to have grammar problems but want a second opinion, or you don't feel able to fix it by yourself) then that's off-topic here, but we have a separate Grammar Police cleanup thread that can provide assistance.

Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM

FigureGunplaFan Since: Oct, 2013
#5926: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:19:32 PM

to nombretomado: I almost forgot about the other requests I forgot to mention:

EpilepticTrees.Love Live

General

  • Many assume that Nozomi, Mari and Karin's birth month strongly hints that they're actually Straight Gay Schoolgirl Lesbians, due to the fact that Pride Day is celebrated here in that month in the West.

Love Live! Sunshine!!

  • Fans believe that the Chika and Riko pairing represents the physical Lesbian Flag, given the said flag's color also matches their respective image colors.
  • Since the UTX High School only shows the cafeteria interior in the whole anime series, some of them might have doubt that UTX is actually a coffee shop in disguise and not a school at all.
  • The reveal of Aida Rikako performing the ending theme for Senryuu Shoujo, as a solo artist that may have been the signal to real life Aqours' potential disbandment. To add more fuel to the fire, Kanako Takatsuki also reveals that she is forming a unit called "BlooDye", which increases the fans' fears even further.
    • Then again, Pile/Hori Eriko is a successful solo singer before Love Live was developed.

From:

  • Many believe that the 2 generic girls in the second season's 12th Episode is actually a hint of a new character for the future sequels.

  • The main cast singing "Bokura no Hashittekita Michi wa..." might had made everyone believe that they pulled a SUNNY DAY SONG way too early.

    • Before its premiere; many of the fans are currently debating on whether the mysterious character is an actual boy or a tomboyish girl, while others assumed that this was probably one of the girls' tomboyish mother, or one of her swimming teachers. Presumably jossed as one fan speculates that this was very likely to be one of You Watanabe's classmates from primary school.

To:

  • Many believe that the 2 generic girls in the second season's 12th Episode are actually a hint of a new character for the future sequels.

  • The main cast singing "Bokura no Hashittekita Michi wa..." might have made everyone believe that they pulled a SUNNY DAY SONG way too early.

    • Before its premiere; many of the fans are currently debating on whether the mysterious character is an actual boy or a tomboyish girl, while others assumed that this was probably one of the girls' tomboyish mother or one of her swimming teachers. Presumably jossed as one fan speculates that this was very likely to be one of You Watanabe's classmates from primary school.


YMMV.Love Live

  • Common Knowledge: Due to the limited exposure of the official published items in the West, dozen of fans believe that Love Live! has unofficial doujins.
  • Gateway Series: This anime ignites the fans' interest in both the idol and the yuri genres.
  • Fandom-Enraging Misconception:
    • Assuming that all of the girls (especially Nozomi and Eli) are straight is definitely not the good way to go.
    • You're claiming that Love Live! songs are associated with K-pop? Nice knowing you.
  • Memetic Badass:
    • (added)
    • (added)
    • Take a gander at Umi's smile (in a rather pissed off manner), and you'll be begging and/or crying for help.
    • Pretty much the entire concept of "School Idols" in the show, where people see them as powerful deities by singing a song randomly at some point, which also gathers many crowds by their Japanese language songs, whether they're Japanese or foreign like Americans or Italians. Likewise, one song from those idols would convince even an objective parent to change their minds.
    • (added)
    • (added)
    • (added)

From:

  • The entire franchise is this as they collaborated with just about nine other franchises and businesses, Many of the fans believe that the franchise will eventually dominate the entire world.

To:

  • The entire franchise is this, as they collaborated with about nine other franchises and businesses to the point of the fandom thinking that Love Live! will eventually dominate the whole world.


YMMV.Love Live School Idol Festival

  • Harsher in Hindsight:
    • Nozomi's comments about µ's lasting forever and ever only made it worse after the first movie.
    • In one of Mari's side stories, she claims that her school life will not be affected by the school's lack of students. However, this ends up in an unfortunate way as their school fails to reach 100 applicant numbers in the anime.


YMMV.Love Live Sunshine

(Strikethrough means remove)

  • Misaimed Fandom: Due to the fact that the movie has yet to be premiered in the US, several American fans assume that Aqours will eventually disband in the film like Muse did, though this turns out to be false as Aqours continues without the third years performing with them.

  • Win The Crowd:
    • The latest trailer for the Over the Rainbow movie had the sudden spoken word "marriage" had drew drawn more attention to the Yuri fans, which they hoped for a genuine same-sex relationship between the Third Years, eventually jossing the queerbaiting once and for all. Unfortunately, this was not the case.

You can remove the double "%s" now...

From:

  • The Over the Rainbow Movie had some:
    • Some thought that the movie should have given some of their own favorite rare pairs a chance to shine on-screen.
    • To many Yuri fans and the LGBT Fanbase, they felt that Mari should have confessed that she truly loved Kanan in front of her mother, eventually solidifying the confirmation of the KanaMari pairing and permanently ending the queerbaiting between the two.
    • After 2 seasons of teasing, none of the µ's members had actually made a single physical cameo in the film, especially to everyone who hopes for them to eventually return to see the 6-man Aqours' performance in the final act, or even performing together with Aqours for one last time.

To:

  • The Over the Rainbow Movie had some:
    • Several fans believed that the movie should have given their favorite rare pairs a chance to shine on-screen, although the closest thing they can find is both You and Yoshiko doing dance training together.
    • As for the conflict of Mari's arranged marriage: Many fans believed that the argument should have been taken seriously instead of relying on one of their songs to change her mind, while the yuri fans felt that Mari should have confessed that she truly loved Kanan in front of her mother as well as solidifying the confirmation of the KanaMari pairing.
    • After 2 seasons of teasing, none of the µ's members actually made a single physical cameo in the film, especially to the fans who are hoping for them to eventually return to see Aqours' performance in the final act, or even performing together with them for one last time.

Memes.Love Live

The Love Live! folder:

  • "F for A-RISE" explaination 

YMMV.Bang Dream

(Strikethrough means remove)

Because of Marina being traditionally animated in the second season's 2nd episode, many fans believe that she doesn't need to be animated with cel-shaded CG to be truly perfect on her own

Edited by FigureGunplaFan on Jun 17th 2019 at 1:16:44 AM

Contributor for Gunpla Wiki. Currently suspended due to extensive writing issues. PS: I only wrote down what I saw. (audience reactions etc)
Avenger09 Since: May, 2014
#5927: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:33:24 PM

Final Fantasy 7 Remake

  • Adaptational Angst Upgrade: Tifa and the other members of AVALANCHE, sans Barret, are a lot more conflicted about the collateral damage their actions against Shinra cause. With Tifa even saying she feels trapped. (Likely thinking if she does nothing, Shinra will continue to abuse the planet, and if they continue their current course, people will still be hurt)

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#5928: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:41:37 PM

[up][up]First, I'd like to see the corrections you said you got on the first batch of edits I made for you. Initial request.

FigureGunplaFan Since: Oct, 2013
#5929: Jun 15th 2019 at 11:01:51 PM

[up] (Arvine is the one that made most the corrections here)

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Edited by FigureGunplaFan on Jun 16th 2019 at 2:02:02 AM

Contributor for Gunpla Wiki. Currently suspended due to extensive writing issues. PS: I only wrote down what I saw. (audience reactions etc)
Bootlebat Since: Dec, 2012
#5930: Jun 16th 2019 at 5:03:28 PM

Can I add something to an existing example?

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5931: Jun 16th 2019 at 8:08:59 PM

[up] x 13, 14 @Bootlebat

The pinky demons have a tough shell/exoskeleton that protects them from frontal attacks. Your best bet is to circle around behind them and shoot them in the back, which is far more vulnerable.

^ I don't see anything wrong with the English in that example.

  • If Thunder (the T. rex boss) defeats Turok, there's a cutscene where she eats him and burps up a feather.
    • The Flesheater race from the second game. It's even in their name. <- period

^ Having only one entry at the 2nd level (or lower) of indentation violates Example Indentation. Doing so is considered a suspension-worthy offense, so you should read that page and avoid doing so. The entry should look like this:

  • I'm a Humanitarian
    • If Thunder (the T. rex boss) defeats Turok, there's a cutscene where she eats him and burps up a feather.
    • The Flesheater race from the second game. It's even in their name.

^ Also, I'm a Humanitarian is a creature that commits cannibalism. Neither of your examples clearly says that the character commits cannibalism, so both of them are Zero Context Examples. More bad news: That's also a suspension-worthy offense, so please click on that page and read it too.

The Purr-lin looks like a combination of a killer gorilla and some kind of crocodile-like dinosaur.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5932: Jun 16th 2019 at 8:12:33 PM

[up] x 13 @jahman

Satellizer's mutual love for Kazuya is born from the fact that he is not only the first guy to show her not only immense kindness, patience, and love, <- comma but also the first guy to set off her haphephobia.

Edited by Arivne on Jun 16th 2019 at 8:41:47 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5933: Jun 16th 2019 at 8:19:45 PM

[up] x 9 @Mekal

Read Only Memories (end of the introduction): At the E3 2019, a spin-off/sequel has been announced: Read Only Memories: Neurodiver, in which you play ES 88, a telepath using their powers to try and stop the Golden Butterfly, a psychic criminal. Official website here: http://neurodiver.io/

^ I don't see anything wrong with the English in that item.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5934: Jun 16th 2019 at 8:34:44 PM

[up] x 9 @brb1006

Changed verbs from past to present tense as per How to Write an Example - Write in Historical Present Tense.

By Sanrio standards, the second season of the Netflix series could be considered one of the company's bloodiest works. While Sanrio rarely shows any depictions of blood in any of their works, <- commanote . blood is shown twice in the second season. The first is when Retsuko gets a bloody nose when she falls on her face while searching for Anai. The second is at a driving school, where Retsuko is taking a class so she can get her driver's license. One class lecture has her being taught about driver safety, and one of the slides in the slideshow features a possibly deceased bird complete with a bloody smashed windshield. Retsuko leaves the class in shock and feels nauseated.

Retsuko's mother made her first appearance in a 2017 post from the Japanese Aggretsuko Twitter account, <- comma two years before her debut in the second season. She is seen in a photo with a very young Retsuko.

^ You split up the first sentence incorrectly, laving the 2nd sentence a sentence fragment.

Some episodes of the second season have some surprisingly creepy and ominous moments compared to Season 1 and the TBS shorts, <- comma such as Retsuko beginning to panic when she hears about a robber breaking into her house <- no comma and Anai aggressively texting Retsuko and Haida <- no comma and upsetting Tsunoda and Ton. However, one moment that sticks out the most is the slideshow where Retsuko is shown a picture of a cracked windshield with blood and a deceased driver.

In-Universe in Season 2, during one class lecture that Retsuko's attending at driving school. The teacher shows a collection of graphic photos of the aftermath of a car crash/accident. While we don't see the other images, we do see one photo of a bloody windshield and a dead victim. Retsuko gets shocked and feels nauseated as a result.

Season Two <- no comma introduces a female spaniel who checks on various people at the driving school (mainly Tadano). While she has a small amount of screen time, she started gaining her own set of fans due to her snarky and monotone attitude.

One of the later episodes of Season 2 <- no comma has Retsuko becoming a student at a driving school to get her driver's license. One class lecture is dedicated to driver safety, <- comma with the students being shown a slideshow that contains graphic images of the aftermath of a car crash/accident. While we don't see the rest that Retsuko mentions after the lecture, <- comma we do seen a photo showing a dead driver complete with a bloody cracked windshield, <- comma which makes her feel sick in the stomach.

^, ^^ These two examples are both by themselves at the 2nd level of indentation, which violates Example Indentation. Please read that page for more.

Edited by Arivne on Jun 16th 2019 at 8:44:15 AM

gc10 Human Bean from Pastastastan Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Human Bean
#5935: Jun 17th 2019 at 5:46:44 AM

Other requests for Grezzo 2 I'm sure don't sound good:

  • Universal Ammunition: Mostly it follows the same logic as Doom: shared ammo for pistols (slot 2) and rifles (slot 4), for all shotguns (slot 3), for rocket launchers (slot 5) and for weapons in slot 6 and 7. But there's many exceptions of weapons using its own ammo, that can be found only when grabbing anther of that weapon or the generic ammo backpack, or of weapons using different ammo for their secondary attack.
  • Take That!: To most real persons added in the game; in particular the author admitted to be satisfied with having added Berlusconi as a helpless prisoner.
  • Overdrawn at the Blood Bank: With some extensive usage of all the weapons you can carry, you will be able to paint the walls and the floor a very thick coat of red.
  • Guns Akimbo: Some weapons are by default dual wielded and are not necessarily meant to be available singularly. When that's possible, the single weapon and its Guns Akimbo are treated as two different weapons alltogether.

Edited by gc10 on Jun 17th 2019 at 2:49:29 PM

Bootlebat Since: Dec, 2012
#5936: Jun 17th 2019 at 9:20:49 AM

@ Arivne: The reason "killer gorilla" is capitalized is because it's a trope name it that's usually how you make a trope name a link. How do you stop it from capitalizing? Also, do you capitalize species name abbreviations (such as t.rex)? I didn't think you did. Finally, I put them under I'm a Humanitarian because they both eat human characters. What trope should I use instead?

Edited by Bootlebat on Jun 17th 2019 at 9:22:59 AM

FigureGunplaFan Since: Oct, 2013
#5937: Jun 17th 2019 at 10:15:28 AM

YMMV.Aho Girl

  • Memetic Badass: Akkun, Gender Equality/Thot Patrol Member Rank: General.

Contributor for Gunpla Wiki. Currently suspended due to extensive writing issues. PS: I only wrote down what I saw. (audience reactions etc)
Bootlebat Since: Dec, 2012
#5938: Jun 17th 2019 at 1:29:03 PM

One I'd like to add to Thief: Strange-Syntax Speaker: The Pagans, as well as the various Trickster affiliated monsters capable of speech all talk in a very strange dialect which involves (among other things), adding -sie to the end of random words, using the "word" "bes" in the place of "be" (pronounced just like "bees"), Fantastic Slurs such as "manfools" for "humans" (even when the speaker himself is human), and removing pronouns from the beginning of sentences while adding an s after the verb (e.g "You build your house" becomes "Builds your house".)

Edited by Bootlebat on Jun 17th 2019 at 1:33:00 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5939: Jun 17th 2019 at 1:43:39 PM

[up][up][up] @Bootlebat

"Also, do you capitalize species name abbreviations (such as t.rex)? I didn't think you did."

I looked up "t. rex" on Google and it was consistently written "T. rex" or "Tyrannosaurus rex". See the page for Tyrannosaurus on The Other Wiki.

"Finally, I put them under I'm a Humanitarian because they both eat human characters. What trope should I use instead?"

As I wrote in my post, you did not say that the characters committed cannibalism or ate humans. The first example did not say that Turok is a human, and the second example didn't say anything at all about what the Flesheaters eat.

When you write an example, you can't just assume that the reader will be familiar with the source or realize that since the example is in a particular trope page that it automatically fits the trope. You must say specifically how the example fits the trope.

Edited by Arivne on Jun 18th 2019 at 8:15:32 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5940: Jun 17th 2019 at 1:49:10 PM

[up] x 4 @gc10

But there're many exceptions of weapons using their own ammo <- no comma that can be found only when grabbing another of that weapon or the generic ammo backpack, or of weapons using different ammo for their secondary attack.

To most real persons added in the game; in particular, <- comma the author admitted to be satisfied with having added Berlusconi as a helpless prisoner.

When that's possible, the single weapon and its Guns Akimbo are treated as two different weapons altogether.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5941: Jun 17th 2019 at 1:52:08 PM

[up][up][up] @Bootlebat

The Pagans, as well as the various Trickster affiliated monsters capable of speech, <- comma all talk in a very strange dialect which involves (among other things) <- no comma adding -sie to the end of random words, using the "word" "bes" in the place of "be" (pronounced just like "bees"), Fantastic Slurs such as "manfools" for "humans" (even when the speaker himself is human), and removing pronouns from the beginning of sentences while adding an s after the verb (e.g "You build your house" becomes "Builds your house".)

Bootlebat Since: Dec, 2012
#5942: Jun 17th 2019 at 4:31:45 PM

[up] How come you removed the Boomerang Bigot link from my example? Isn't a human who uses anti-human slurs an example?

Edited by Bootlebat on Jun 17th 2019 at 4:32:11 AM

Bootlebat Since: Dec, 2012
#5943: Jun 17th 2019 at 4:35:36 PM

Oh one more thing. I was using Purr-lin as a plural (the plural and singular are the same.) In that case, wouldn't "look" be correct?

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#5944: Jun 17th 2019 at 6:01:19 PM

~FigureGunplaFan, the edits Arivne already corrected have been added.

This edit:

  • The main cast singing "Bokura no Hashittekita Michi wa..." might have made everyone believe that they pulled a SUNNY DAY SONG way too early.
    • It's really unclear what this even means. Epileptic Trees certainly isn't as strict as main wiki items, but it should at least be intelligible.
  • Since the UTX High School only shows only the cafeteria interior during the whole entire anime series, some of them might have doubt believe that UTX is actually a coffee shop in disguise and not a school at all.

Edited by nombretomado on Jun 17th 2019 at 6:02:33 AM

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#5945: Jun 17th 2019 at 6:12:59 PM

~FigureGunplaFan, this edit:

  • Many believe that the 2 appearance of two generic girls in the second season's 12th episode is actually a hinting at of a new character for the future sequels.
  • The main cast singing "Bokura no Hashittekita Michi wa..." might have made everyone believe that they pulled a SUNNY DAY SONG way too early.
    • Addressed this one here

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#5946: Jun 17th 2019 at 6:23:08 PM

~FigureGunplaFan, the new example for this request is a Zero-Context Example. I don't see anything wrong with the grammar.

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#5947: Jun 17th 2019 at 6:34:56 PM

~FigureGunplaFan, this post was already corrected by Arivne.

  • Take a gander at Umi's (pissed-off) smile (in a rather pissed off manner), and you'll be begging and/or crying for help.
    • That doesn't really convey how this is memetic.

Otherwise, edits added.

Edited by nombretomado on Jun 17th 2019 at 6:35:06 AM

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#5948: Jun 17th 2019 at 6:43:23 PM

~FigureGunplaFan, this post:

  • As for the conflict of Mari's arranged marriage, many fans believed that the argument should have been taken seriously, instead of relying on one of their songs to change her mind. Meanwhile, the yuri fans feel that Mari should have confessed that she truly loved Kanan in front of her mother as well, and in doing so as solidifying the confirmation of the KanaMari pairing.

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#5949: Jun 17th 2019 at 6:46:55 PM

~FigureGunplaFan, this post:

  • Fans believe that the Chika and Riko pairing represents the physical lesbian flag, given as the said flag's colors also matches their respective image colors.

Edited by nombretomado on Jun 17th 2019 at 6:47:10 AM

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#5950: Jun 17th 2019 at 6:49:23 PM

~FigureGunplaFan, this post was noted by Arivne here that there were no corrections. It's been added.


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