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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#4851: Aug 6th 2018 at 4:32:31 AM

[up] x 5 @tikatikatika

Anew is not evil, but being a member of Innovator and one of Ribbon's creations makes her villainous. <- space While most of them are arrogant and care nothing about humans <- space (even though they can, it's VERY little and only for their own purposes), Anew learns to understand the humans even as she learns to fall in love with them. She doesn't shoot Lasse to death and spares Mileina's and Feldt's lives because they are the same gender as her.
She was an Innovade which created by Ribbons, she was created only for the mission to infiltrate and find the secret of the Celestial Being and as a device to track the Celestial Being's location. <- space In a worst-case scenario, Ribbons can shut down and control her mind to finish her task. Clearly that she is nothing but a poor tool and a puppet for him, <- space much like Louise Halevy.

You need to put spaces after punctuation (such as periods and commas).

Edited by Arivne on Aug 6th 2018 at 4:36:24 AM

fishysaur Good for nothing Since: May, 2018
Good for nothing
#4852: Aug 6th 2018 at 6:09:12 AM

correction

for Tama

  • One-Steve Limit: Averted. She has the same name as a sphinx in Whitebeard's hometown.

for Eneru's priests in general

[in this case, "god" is a ruling title, like "king" or "president", not an actual god]

for Satori

One of god Enel's four priests. He runs the Ordeal of Balls, which has a survival rate of 10%. In his ordeals the area is filled with "Surprise Balls" (Bikkirutama) which, while all identical, each have a different trap, from an explosion to a giant crab.

He's a playful and sadistic man who enjoys seeing victims going through his ordeal, but quickly panics when something goes wrong. He mainly fights through the various traps inside his Surprise Balls, but also wears a couple of impact Dials in his gloves. Aside from that, he's probably the weakest priest combat-wise and is the least trained in mantra.

He has two younger brothers, Otori and Kotori, who look alot like him.


  • Acrofatic: Despite his round body and short limbs, he can swing in the Upper Yard forest quite easily.
  • Ain't Too Proud to Beg: After bragging about his status as priest and the punishment for beating him, he begs Sanji for mercy right before receiving a kick on the head.
  • Astonishingly Appropriate Appearance: The guy who runs the "Ordeal of Balls" has a body as round as a ball.
  • Attack Reflector: His gloves have a pair of Impact Dials, which absorb and then reflect all damage.
  • Beware the Silly Ones: Luffy and Sanji underestimate him because of his carefree attitude, and he proves to be a dangerous opponent.
  • Four Eyes, Zero Soul: Wears a pair of yellow-shaded glasses and enjoys the sight of the victim fighting to survive his ordeal. It gets broken after Sanji kicks him.
  • Large Ham: His cheerful and carefree behaviour, combined with his near-constant dancing, make him quite the presence.
  • Nonchalant Dodge: Thanks to Mantra, he easily dodges multiple attacks from Luffy, even a Gomu Gomu no Gatling.
  • Oh, Crap!: He panics once Luffy gets the trick behind his "Tama Dragon", followed by an even bigger one when Luffy stops him and he is about to be defeated by Sanji.
  • Perpetual Smiler: He constantly has a smug and childish smile, until Luffy catches him.
  • Psychopathic Manchild: He hops and dances while sadistically enjoying Luffy, Sanji and Usopp fighting for their lives against his traps.
  • Signature Laugh: Like many characters, he has a unique laughing style: Ho, ho hooo!
  • Trap Master: He doesn't directly fight his enemies, but prefers facing them using his countless Surprise Balls, each with a completely different kind of trap.

There isn't an impossible dream, there are only people who give up
fishysaur Good for nothing Since: May, 2018
Good for nothing
#4853: Aug 6th 2018 at 10:01:42 AM

A new one

for the priests in general

  • Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: They despise each other, to the point no one is saddened or angered by Satori's defeat, and work together only because they're all Enel's subordinates.

some tropes and description for Shura

"For the crime of running away, someone must pay for it with his life as "sacrifice". This is the way of the world"

One of god Enel's priests. He runs the Ordeal of String,which has a survival rate of 3%. In his ordeal, the criminals are tied by almost invisible cloud strings placed by the priest and then finished off. While cruel to every transgressor and believe that for every crime, someone has to pay, regardless if said person commited the crime or not. He's also very confident of his abilities.

He fights using a javelin with a heat dial which allows it to set on fire the targets and rides a giant sanjonzo named Fuza which has a flame dial in his mouth, giving the illusion it can spit fire.


  • Adventurer Outfit: Of the airman kind. His outfit is based on an early 1900s aviator.
  • Affably Evil: After Chopper ask for mercy and to not destroy the ship, he stops and talks with him about his punishment philosophy. Only to ultimately declare that Chopper has to pay for his friends's crime.
  • Badass Mustache: Has a pointed, Dastardly-like mustache. Really fitting for a villain.
  • Fatal Flaw: His overconfidence is what causes him to get caught off guard by Wiper, who defeats him with a Reject Dial.
  • Giant Flyer: Fuza, the sanjonzo he rides, is a bird large enough to carry him.
  • Goggles Do Nothing: To complete his aviator outfit, he has a pair of googles, which are more often than not on his forehead, especially during a fight.
  • Kill It with Fire: Both his main attacks rely on using fire, either with Fuza's (fake) fire-breath or with the heat dial in his lance.
  • Knight Templar: He blindly follow the Upper Yard's rules and execute them punishing everyone who commits a crime, and, if necessary to him, even those who don't.
  • Misplaced Retribution: To him, if someone commits a crime,someone has to pay. Then even those who commited the crime have to be punished to realize their mistakes.
  • The Worf Effect: After capturing the Shandia warrior besides Wiper, the latter quickly defeat the priest, making him the first to be taken out of the survival game, to show how much he's strong.

for Nico Robin

Edited by fishysaur on Aug 6th 2018 at 11:03:07 AM

There isn't an impossible dream, there are only people who give up
VampireNewl Since: Oct, 2017
#4854: Aug 6th 2018 at 12:03:25 PM

Hi, I'm banned from editing atm partialy because of poor english.

One of the tropes I put up was;

"Bribing Your Way to Victory: In universe example. Nearly every problem in universe can be solved by spending money, you can use it to skip legs , get information, even get higher rolls note , it’s even used as the method of leveling up the PC’s however as both living and achieving your goals requires that money you need to assess the benefits vs the costs. "

and I was asked to rewrite it to show my understanding so I wrote it as;

"An in universe example as nearly every problem in universe can be solved with money, it can be used to skip legs, get information, get higher rolls and it’s even used as the method of leveling up the PC’s. However as both living and achieving your goals requires that same money you need to assess the benefits vs the costs."

Could someone tell me how to improve and possibly give some expamples please?

Thankyou for your time.

TLDR; I need some help with English to get unbanned from editing.

VictorDamazio Since: Jul, 2012
#4855: Aug 6th 2018 at 1:32:41 PM

I need help again:

  • In Brazil, year 2003, Brazilian TV show host Gilberto Barros made some TV reports claiming that the games Yu-Gi-Oh! and Magic: The Gathering were Satanic, calling Yu-Gi-Oh! "The Devil's Card Game". On 5th June 2003, he dedicated his whole timeslot to that subject, and the next day, thousands of children across Brazil had their cards confiscated, torn apart or burned by worried parents and teachers. He kept doing similar reports on videogames as well, like Carmageddon. However, he would later say he was sorry for his reports and reveal he only did them for the ratings, but only after departing from TV. There is no footage of those reports on Internet, however.

I think the grammar is fine now, but if there's anything else that needs correction, please help.

Edited by VictorDamazio on Aug 6th 2018 at 1:34:40 AM

boatman8 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Waiting for you *wink*
#4856: Aug 7th 2018 at 5:47:04 PM

Well, forgot this one: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/DevilMayCry Angst? What Angst?: In the third fight between Dante and Nelo Angelo, the latter's body explodes leaving only an item that identified he was Vergil. Dante barely reacts to finding out that Vergil was working to Mundus.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#4857: Aug 8th 2018 at 1:46:45 AM

[up] x 4 @fishysaur

  • One of god Enel's priests -> One of the god Enel's priests
  • String,which -> String, <- space which
He is cruel to every transgressor and believes that for every crime, someone has to pay, regardless if said person committed the crime or not.
He fights using a javelin with a heat dial which allows it to set its targets on fire. He rides a giant sanjonzo
  • After Chopper ask -> After Chopper asks
After Chopper asks for mercy and for him not to destroy the ship, he stops and talks with him about his punishment philosophy, only to ultimately declare that Chopper has to pay for his friends' crime.
To complete his aviator outfit <- no comma he has a pair of googles
He blindly follows the Upper Yard's rules and executes them, <- comma punishing
  • and, if necessary to him, even those who don't.

This doesn't make any sense. What does "necessary to him" mean?

  • crime,someone -> crime, <- space someone
Even then, even those who committed the crime have to be punished to make them realize their mistakes.
After capturing the Shandia warriors besides Wiper, the latter quickly defeats the priest, making him the first to be taken out of the survival game <- no comma to show how strong he is.

What you wrote above is hard to understand so my translation may not be correct.

Edited by Arivne on Aug 8th 2018 at 1:50:49 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#4858: Aug 8th 2018 at 1:59:16 AM

[up] x 4 @Vampire Newl

editing atm partially because of poor English.
In-universe example. Nearly every problem in-universe can be solved by spending money. You can use it to skip legs, <- no space get information, even get higher rolls note. It’s even used as the method of leveling up the PC’s, <- comma however as both living and achieving your goals require that money you need to assess the benefits vs the costs.

The second sentence ("Nearly every problem"...) was two separate sentences joined together with a comma splice. I split them up.

The last part ("as both living and achieving your goals require that money you need to assess the benefits vs the costs.") doesn't make sense to me so I can't correct it.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#4859: Aug 8th 2018 at 2:00:59 AM

[up] x 4 @Victor Damazio

I already did this one. Please see my response to it.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#4860: Aug 8th 2018 at 2:04:38 AM

[up] x 4 @boatman8

In the third fight between Dante and Nelo Angelo <- no comma the latter's body explodes, <- comma leaving only an item that identifies that he was Vergil. Dante barely reacts to finding out that Vergil was working with Mundus.

I'm just guessing that when you said "to" you meant "with".

Mhazard Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#4861: Aug 8th 2018 at 4:30:04 AM

For an upcoming page, Characters/HungerGamesSimulationLoreCharacters:

Hunger Games Simulation Lore Characters

Top Index | Players A to M | Players N to Z | Troper No. 9001 | Lore Characters

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The Capitol

    President Snow 

President Corionalaus Snow

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/president_snow_hgs.jpg
"Hope, it is the only thing stronger than fear."
The president of Panem, Snow rules over the Capitol and its contained districts with an iron fist.
  • Asshole Victim: Considering that he has done numerous atrocities in the Capitol, most people would rejoice whenever he dies, over and over again.
  • President Evil: He's a tyrannical president of Panem.
  • Resurrective Immortality: A possible explanation of how he regularly comes back to life only to die again is that he possesses a power to resurrect himself.
  • They Killed Kenny Again: Ever since he enters the arena in Season 155, he regularly gets killed off over and over again. By the time of Season 181, the Hunger Games' resident President Evil gets nominated as two separate tributes, is killed twice, and then gets kidnapped by Hades in the Underworld. Not that anyone has a problem, though, considering how much of an asshole he is.
    Alma Coin 

Alma Coin

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/president_coin_hgs.jpg
The former president of District 13. Ever since her supposed death, Coin has become an obscure, unseen figure only heard in rumors among President Snow's crews.

Snowclone Army

    As a Whole 

The President Snowclones

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/president_snowclone_army.jpg
Clone army of fallen tributes developed by President Snow. They are mass produced by infusing the DNA of fallen tributes and Snow himself, and they serve as Snow's personal army for eradicating tributes who have lived for too long.
  • Badass Army: Invoked, they are advertised and presented under this image, as an elite army answering only to President Snow. In truth, they are nothing more than Mooks designed to be mowed down by any other tribute.
  • Clone Army: A clone army created by President Snow to serve under him.
  • Meaningful Name: The name "Snowclone Army" has a double meaning, not only it is derived from the term "Snowclones", the practice of naming tropes by making puns after existing tropes, it also means that these clones are the clones of President Snow himself. In fact, the Snowclones are created by infusing the DNA of fallen tributes with President Snow's DNA.
    PSC-01 

President Snowclone Model PSC-01

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/president_snowclone_psc_01.jpg
The standard issue army utilized in the Capitol, they are automatically nominated as NPC tributes whenever there is a lack of reserved tributes.
  • Amazon Brigade: An all-female clone army created by infusing the DNA of fallen tributes with President Snow's DNA.
  • Bodyguard Babes: Some of these units are used as President Snow's personal bodyguards.
  • Evil Counterpart: Of Eri Kitamura. It remains ambiguous why they all resemble a specific fallen tribute, but it is heavily implied that Mhazard secretly funded Snow to build a clone army in an attempt to resurrect his fallen tributes.
  • Elite Mooks: They are designed to serve as high-rank combatants defending President Snow's quarter.
  • We Can Rebuild Him: Whenever they get destroyed, they can be quickly repaired with the spare parts. Given how regular one of the nominators introduces a certain tribute to the field, Snow can quickly get all the spare parts to repair the clones.

    PSC-01S 

President Snowclone Model PSC-01S

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/president_snowclone_psc_01s.jpg
An advanced unit of President Snowclone Model PSC-01, she is modified into a sniper possessing an increased reflex, and she is armed with a high caliber rifle.
  • Ace Custom: She is a modified clone unit tailored for sniping tributes from afar, with an amplified reflex, as well as possessing a certain degree of autonomy in which no other PSC-01 clones would have.
  • Cold Sniper: A cold-blooded sniper without any concept of mercy.
  • Evil Counterpart: Of Eri Kitamura, even more so than the standard clones. Mhazard, the one who might have funded Snow to create his personal army, heavily involves with the creation of this specific unit, and requested Snow to customize this unit in the likeliness of his fallen tribute.
  • Super Prototype: The PSC-01S is a modified prototype clone unit. Unlike the standard issue units, she is almost purely made of the DNA of a fallen tribute, with a bare minimum of Snow's own DNA. As a result, she can outperform most of the clone units.

The Arena

    The HGS Server 

The Hunger Games Simulation Server

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/hunger_games_control_room_hgs.png
The server used for storing information of Hunger Games tributes. The server is prone to be hacked by tributes.
  • Ret-Gone: Should any of the listed tribute gets deleted from the server during the Season, they effectively get killed, as getting deleted from the tribute list is the same as getting wiped out of existence.

    The Arena Forcefield 

The Arena Forcefield

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/arena_force_field_hgs.png
An electrical field set up by the Capitol to prevent the tributes from escaping from the arena.

Panem Residents

    Bigfoot 

The Bigfoot


    Hunter 

The Hunter


Other Characters

Edited by Mhazard on Aug 8th 2018 at 7:37:22 PM

tikatikatika Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#4862: Aug 9th 2018 at 12:01:15 AM

Tear Jerker

  • Judging from Allelujah condition when imprisoned by federation, you can clearly see that he receive very very VERY horrible Cruel Mercy by them by place him in isolated prison, being bounded in metal chair and straijacket, with Muzzle cover his mouth, and has Exhausted Eye Bags probably a sign of his unhealthy condition or his lack of sleep since its very difficult and its not good to have sleep in sitting position OVER FOUR YEARS. Making fans wondering what already the federation do at him when he still in prison.
    • In epilogue of novelization version of season 1, its stated that Federation (especially A-Laws) treat him very inhumanely, being subjected of horrible interrogation and tormented by them due he never once answer their question about Celestial Being. Allelujah remain to strong and never giving up to protect his comrade by never answer their question.

    • Allelujah even stated to Sumeragi that he have no problem if he will die alone and rotted in prison because he feel its that a right time to "atone his sins". However, everything is change after he see Amnesic-Marie as Soma Peries at his last interrogation, and determine to save her from federation and become his main motivation why he wanted to continue to fight.

  • Louise Halevy. Well, at the first time, there is nothing special about her aside she is a foreign Spoiled Sweet and Ordinary High-School Student from Spain who come from super-rich family. She maybe demanding and spoiled, but kind-hearted and lonely girl as stated by Saji. However, due the incident that already caused by Nena which resulting her to lose her family, her mind and her body become very ill, Louise later become wrathful Sociopathic Soldier who join A-Laws and allied with Innovator in order to avenge her family death and commit a genocide to anyone who refuse to unification of the world. Aside from her trauma, Ribbons clearly play a big role for her health and her sanity in season 2, which he modify it so she can become his first-humanity Innovator to be his pawn and mole. She may get better in the end of season 2 after being saved by Saji and Setsuna,but in Movie its showing that she'll never ever completely get over the mental and physical trauma she endured, and is going to have to live with that and atone for it for the rest of her life. You can imagine she clearly almost lost everything due the horrible things what already happen to her. Louise is nothing but a one of poor victims of Ribbons Schemes. She already lost her family, her body and her mind is permanently scared due his manipulation and Nena action. Thankfully for her, Saji's going to stick by her for all this.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#4863: Aug 9th 2018 at 3:06:04 AM

[up][up] @Mhazard

  • President Corionalaus Snow -> President Coriolanus Snow
  • he has done numerous atrocities -> he has committed numerous atrocities
  • He's a tyrannical president of Panem. -> He's the tyrannical president of Panem.
  • he possesses a power to resurrect himself. -> he possesses the power to resurrect himself.
  • Ever since he enters the arena -> Ever since he entered the arena
  • only heard in rumors -> only heard of in rumors
  • to interfere with Hunger Games -> to interfere with the Hunger Games
  • Ever since she gets shot -> Ever since she was shot
  • double meaning, not only -> double meaning. Not only

That's a comma splice.

  • defending President Snow's quarter. -> defending President Snow's quarters.
Whenever they get destroyed, they can be quickly repaired with the spare parts. Given how regularly

she is modified into a sniper possessing an increased reflexes <- no comma and she is armed with a high caliber rifle.
with an amplified reflexes <- no comma as well as possessing a certain degree of autonomy in which no other PSC-01 clones would have.
Mhazard...was heavily involved with the creation of this specific unit <- no comma and requested that Snow to customize it in the likeliness of his fallen tribute.
  • information of Hunger Games tributes. -> information about Hunger Games tributes.
  • Should any of the listed tribute gets deleted -> Should any of the listed tributes be deleted

Edited by Arivne on Aug 9th 2018 at 3:06:56 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#4864: Aug 9th 2018 at 3:34:32 AM

[up][up] @tikatikatika

Judging from Allelujah's condition after he was imprisoned by the Federation, you can clearly see that he received very very VERY horribly cruel mercy from them, <- comma such as placing him in isolation, binding him to a metal chair in a straitjacket <- no comma with a muzzle covering his mouth. He has Exhausted Eye Bags, <- comma probably a sign of his unhealthy living conditions or his lack of sleep, <- comma since it's very difficult and its not good to have to sleep in a sitting position for OVER FOUR YEARS. This makes fans wonder what already the Federation did to him when he was still in prison.
In the epilogue of the novelization version of season 1, it's stated that the Federation (especially A-Laws) treats him very inhumanely, being subjecting him to horrible interrogation and tormenting him because he never once answered their question about the Celestial Being. Allelujah remained strong and never gave up protecting his comrade by refusing to answer their questions.
Allelujah even tells Sumeragi that he has no problem with rotting in prison and dying alone and because he feel it's the right time to "atone for his sins". However, everything changes after he sees Amnesic-Marie as Soma Peries at his last interrogation, and decides to save her from the Federation. It becomes his main motivation for wanting to continue to fight.
Louise Halevy. Well, at the first time, There is nothing special about her, <- comma aside from being a foreign Spoiled Sweet and Ordinary High-School Student from Spain who comes from a super-rich family. She may be demanding and spoiled, but she is a kind-hearted and lonely girl, <- comma as stated by Saji. However, due to the incident that already caused by Nena which resulted in her losing her family, her mind and her body become very ill. Louise later becomes a wrathful Sociopathic Soldier who joins A-Laws and allies with Innovator in order to avenge her family's deaths and commit genocide against anyone who refuses her unification of the world. Aside from her trauma, Ribbons clearly plays a big role in her health and her sanity in season 2, which he modifies so she can become his first-humanity Innovator to be his pawn and mole. She may get better at the end of season 2 after being saved by Saji and Setsuna, <- space but in the movie it's shown that she'll never ever completely get over the mental and physical trauma she endured, and is going to have to live with that and atone for it for the rest of her life. You can imagine that she clearly almost lost everything due to the horrible things that have already happened to her. Louise is nothing but one of the poor victims of Ribbon's schemes. She already lost her family <- no comma and her body and her mind are permanently scared due to his manipulation and Nena's action. Thankfully for her, Saji's going to stick by her for all this.

Edited by Arivne on Aug 9th 2018 at 3:40:09 AM

Mhazard Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#4865: Aug 9th 2018 at 10:29:04 PM

Thanks for helping me for the grammar check.

Here's another lengthy work page I'm working on.

For an upcoming work page, VisualNovel/ALightInTheDark:

VisualNovel/ALightInTheDark

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/alightinthedark.png

"We cannot choose in this unfair world"

A rich boy named Hao-Chen Jiang was tied in a dim and dreary room that he had not seen before.

Trying to get up to turn on the lights, he finds that his arms are tied behind him and that is when he realizes that he's been kidnapped. Then, a mysterious girl appears before him, with a look of disdain, telling him that unless his family agrees to pay a ransom he has no chance to escape.

But perhaps there is more to this than just money...

A Light in the Dark is a visual novel game developed by CreSpirit, Storia and Narrator. It was released at Steam on 16th June 2018.

The player takes control of Hao-Chen Jiang, the hostage who gets kidnapped by two girls. During his days of imprisonment, you will need to examine the items around the room to formulate a plan to escape from the kidnappers or learn more about them. Besides, you will need to interact with the kidnappers by answering their questions through various time-limited options. You can build your trust with them, or sometimes, outright berate your kidnappers when necessary.

Eventually, they will learn of a world they were never aware of which will crumble away at their deep-rooted prejudices.

In the face of confusion and the choices before them, what will they find?

This work contains example of:

  • Multiple Endings:
    • Choose Death: You use every opportunity to anger the kidnapper and try to escape as many times as possible, and you die trying to escape.
    • Parallel Line: You anger the young girl by trying to make the mysterious girl look bad and disturbing, and eventually, they both stop caring about you and leave you to die at the end of Day 3.
    • Same Warmth: You manage to untie yourself with a shard of a broken glass and try to escape, only to get killed by the young girl.
    • Indelible Mark: You manage to untie yourself with a shard of a broken glass and try to escape, only this time you succeed by attacking the mysterious girl, killing her in the process. However, Hao-Chan becomes traumatized for the rest of his life as his memory of the young girl begging him to save her older sister keeps haunting him even after the event.
    • Endless Rain: You try to resolve the situation in a peaceful way, but also berated them once or twice. Eventually, they would free you, but the antagonistic relationship remains unchanged.
    • New Beginning: You spend the whole time to resolve the situation in a peaceful way without berating them, but you haven't investigate anything about the mysterious girl. Eventually, they would free you, and Hao-Cheng would pray for the girls.
    • A Light In The Dark: You spend the whole time to resolve the situation in a peaceful way without berating them, and you also spend your time to learn more about mysterious girl. Eventually, the mysterious girl entrusts her younger sister's well-being to you and commits suicide via a sleep pill so that her younger sister can receive social welfare through the death of herself. Four years after the event, you meet the young girl on the street, grown up and is catching up with the society, and you begin to take care of the young girl.
  • Press X to Not Die: All the dialogues are answered in a series of quick time events, as the kidnappers wouldn't wait for the hostage to answer patiently.

Characters/ALightInTheDark

Lists of characters of VisualNovel/ALightInTheDark.

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The Three Main Characters

    The Player Character 

Hao-Chen Jiang

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/alightinthedarkplayercharacter.jpg
"Find someone else to vent to. I have nothing to do with your misfortune."
A rich boy kidnapped on his way home and found himself in an old, unfamiliar room with his hands tied. His father is a famous CEO who is constantly aboard on business, leaving him precocious and independent. He manages to remain calm as a hostage as he tries to find a way to escape.
  • Character Death: He dies in "Choose Death", "Parallel Line", and "Same Warmth" endings.

  • Player Character: You play as the hostage throughout the story, and you will need to figure out how to escape from the kidnappers.
  • Stockholm Syndrome: If you proceed to a peaceful route, he would begin to emphasize with the kidnappers through understanding. In "A Light in the Dark" ending, he is entrusted with the well-being of the young girl by the mysterious girl, her older sister, before she commits suicide for the sake of her younger sister.
  • Survivor Guilt: In the "Indelible Mark" ending, he manages to untie himself with a shard of a broken glass and escapes by attacking the mysterious girl, killing her in the process. However, he becomes traumatized for the rest of his life as his memory of the young girl begging him to save her older sister keeps haunting him even after the event.

    The Mysterious Girl 

Mysterious Girl

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/alightinthedarkmysteriousgirl.png
"The world is just unfair. Isn't that your favourite line?"
The first person Hao-Chen met in the abandoned building, who is in charge of guarding him and contracting him for ransom. She has an aggressive personality, often mocking and even beating him. For some reason she has a deep-rooted hatred against the rich, yet also has a soft side to her friends and family.
  • Character Death: She gets killed in "Indelible Mark" ending, or she commits suicide in "New Beginning" and "A Light In The Dark" endings.
  • Doomed Protagonist: There's no way you can save her in all the endings. The best thing you can do is to befriend her and take care of her younger sister after she commits suicide in the best outcome.
  • Driven to Suicide: In "New Beginning" and "A Light In The Dark" endings, the mysterious girl is nowhere to be found because she committed suicide with sleep pills.
  • Heroic Sacrifice: As revealed in "A Light in the Dark" ending, it turns out the reason why she commits suicide is because her younger sister can receive a welfare through the death of herself, and she entrusts her younger sister's well-being to Hao-Chen before committing suicide in that ending.
  • Lima Syndrome: If you spend your time to gain her trust and understand her situation, she will warm up to Hao-Chen and eventually let him leave peacefully in "New Beginning" ending, or even entrust her younger sister's well-being to Hao-Chen in "A Lgiht In The Dark" ending.
  • Parental Abandonment: Her father has abandoned the family after he accumulated numerous amount of debts, and her mother has committed suicide due to being broken by her works and the debt collecting attempts.
  • Tragic Villain: As it turns out, the reason why she kidnaps Hao-Chen is because her father has accumulated numerous amount of debts and abandoned the family, and her mother has committed suicide due to being broken by her works and the debt collecting attempts. She and her younger sister are being harassed by a cruel debt collector. As a result, she kidnaps you in a desperate attempt to pay the debt.
  • Red Oni, Blue Oni: The Red Oni to the young girl's Blue Oni, she has a rather aggressive personality compared to her younger sister.

    The Young Girl 

Young Girl

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/alightinthedarkyounggirl.png
Click here to see the grown up Young Girl. 
"I never thought...we'd be the bad guys in the story."
A black haired girl tasked with helping guard Hao-Chen. She appears to be no older than 14-15 years old. Always quiet with her head hung low, she keeps a watchful eye on Hao-Chen and avoids any question she doesn't want to answer. She feels unease about her action, but follows the directions of the mysterious girl. Their relationship in itself is also a mystery.
  • Shes All Grown Up: Four years after the kidnapping event in "A Light In The Dark" ending, she has grown up, wearing a new coat, and is trying to catch up with the society.
  • Please Wake Up: In "Indelible Mark" ending, shortly after Hao-Chen attacked the mysterious girl, she yells at Hao-Chen and begs him to save her older sister, it fell on deaf ears as he left.
  • Parental Abandonment: Her father has abandoned the family after he accumulated numerous amount of debts, and her mother has committed suicide due to being broken by her works and the debt collecting attempts.
  • Red Oni, Blue Oni: The Blue Oni to the mysterious girl's Red Oni, she is quiet compared to her older sister.
  • Sole Survivor: She would wind up become the last living person in her family, after her older sister has committed suicide for the sake of her well-being. This changes in "A Light in the Dark" ending, where Hao-Chen becomes her caretaker.

Other Characters

    Ms. Wang 

Ms. Wang

The co-worker of the mysterious girl's mother.
  • Mr. Exposition: She explains the background of the mysterious girl, filling up the last piece of the puzzle.
  • Walking Spoiler: She is only met in "A Light in the Dark" ending, as the mysterious girl will only give you Ms. Wang's contact number if you're in good terms with her and have tried to understand her.
    Spoiler Character 

Mr. Ken

The man behind the kidnapping incident.
  • Karma Houdini: He doesn't get punished for his crime, and the police investigation team only treated the kidnapping event as a regular abduction incident.
  • The Ghost: He never appears in person.
  • The Man Behind the Man: He's the person behind the kidnapping incident, and he's the mastermind who manipulated the girls to kidnap Hao-Chen.
  • Walking Spoiler: His existence becomes a huge spoiler for the whole kidnapping incident, and is only mentioned by the mysterious girl in "A Light In The Dark" ending. Hao-Chen's mother has an affair with Mr. Ken, and Ken tells the mysterious girl Hao-Chen's information. Apparently Hao-Chen's mother always likes to cry about her family every time she gets drunk, and Ken takes advantage on the whole situation, and eventually leads to the kidnapping.

[down] I'll now work on it at the Sandbox page first, I'll post it here again once I have completed it.

Edited by Mhazard on Aug 10th 2018 at 6:37:01 PM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#4866: Aug 10th 2018 at 3:13:12 AM

[up]

  • It was released at Steam -> It was released on Steam

Trying to get up to turn on the lights, he finds that his arms are tied behind him and that is when he realizes that he's been kidnapped. Then, a mysterious girl appears before him, with a look of disdain, telling him that unless his family agrees to pay a ransom he has no chance to escape.

But perhaps there is more to this than just money...

During his days of imprisonment, they will learn of a world they were never aware of which will crumble away at their deep-rooted prejudices. In the face of confusion and the choices before them, what will they find...?

This entire section is copied from The Kickstarter page (or some other source) without attribution, with a few minor changes.

This violates the TV Tropes rules on plagiarism and is a bannable offense. Please re-write the entire section in your own words, as well as anything else you copied.

  • to anger the kidnapper -> to anger the kidnappers
  • but also berated them -> but also berate them
You spend the whole time trying to resolve the situation in a peaceful way without berating them, but you don't investigate anything about the mysterious girl. Eventually, they will free you, and Hao-Cheng will pray for the girls.
You spend the whole time trying to resolve the situation in a peaceful way without berating them, and you also spend your time learning more about the mysterious girl. Eventually, the mysterious girl entrusts her younger sister's well-being to you and commits suicide via a sleep pill so that her younger sister can receive welfare payments through the death of herself. Four years after the event, you meet the young girl on the street, grown up and is catching up with the society, and you begin to take care of her.

A rich boy kidnapped on his way home and found himself in an old, unfamiliar room with his hands tied. His father is a famous CEO who is constantly aboard on business, leaving him precocious and independent. He manages to remain calm as a hostage as he tries to find a way to escape.

The above is also plagiarized and needs to be re-written in your own words.

  • He dies in "Choose Death"... -> He dies in the "Choose Death"...
If you follow a peaceful route, he will begin to empathize

The first person Hao-Chen met in the abandoned building, who is in charge of guarding him and contracting him for ransom. She has an aggressive personality, often mocking and even beating him. For some reason she has a deep-rooted hatred against the rich, yet also has a soft side to her friends and family.

The above is also plagiarized and needs to be re-written in your own words.

She gets killed in the "Indelible Mark" ending and commits
There's no way you can save her in any of the endings.
  • In "New Beginning" and -> In the "New Beginning" and
is so her younger sister can receive welfare payments,
If you spend your time gaining her trust and understanding her situation, she will warm up to Hao-Chen and eventually let him leave peacefully in the "New Beginning"..."A Light In The Dark" ending.
Her father has abandoned the family after he accumulated numerous large debts, and her mother has committed suicide due to being broken by her work and the debt collection attempts.

Please change the two similar examples later on the same way.

A black haired girl tasked with helping guard Hao-Chen. She appears to be no older than 14-15 years old. Always quiet with her head hung low, she keeps a watchful eye on Hao-Chen and avoids any question she doesn't want to answer. She feels unease about her action, but follows the directions of the mysterious girl. Their relationship in itself is also a mystery.

The above is also plagiarized and needs to be re-written in your own words.

she has grown up, is wearing a new coat, and is trying to catch up with the society.
In the "Indelible Mark" ending, shortly after Hao-Chen attacks the mysterious girl, she yells at Hao-Chen and begs him to save her older sister. It falls on deaf ears as he leaves.
She will wind up becoming the last living person in her family, after her older sister commits suicide
  • if you're in good terms with her -> if you're on good terms with her
the police investigation team only treat the kidnapping event
Ken takes advantage of the whole situation, which eventually leads to the kidnapping.

Edited by Arivne on Aug 10th 2018 at 3:16:22 AM

Mhazard Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#4867: Aug 10th 2018 at 4:28:47 AM

Here's my first attempts to rewrite the main page:

Main Page

A rich boy named Hao-Chen Jiang was tied in a dim and dreary room that he had not seen before. As soon as he opens his eyes, a mysterious girl appears before him, asking him for a ransom. It is that moment he realizes that he is being kidnapped, and he needs to figure out how to escape from the captors.

A Light in the Dark is a visual novel game developed by CreSpirit, Storia and Narrator. It was released on Steam on 16th June 2018.

The player takes control of Hao-Chen Jiang, the hostage who gets kidnapped by two girls. During his days of imprisonment, you will need to examine the items around the room to formulate a plan to escape from the kidnappers or learn more about them. Besides, you will need to interact with the kidnappers by answering their questions through various time-limited options. You can build your trust with them, or sometimes, outright berate your kidnappers when necessary.

Can you help him to escape from the kidnappers?


For the character descriptions, it's rather difficult to rewrite the whole thing from scratch, so I tried to paraphrase and remove unnecessary details to avoid making it a plagiarism:

The Player Character

A rich boy who gets kidnapped by two girls on his way home, Hao-Chen is the character you play as.

The Mysterious Girl

One of the two kidnappers who held Hao-Chen hostage in an abandoned building, the mysterious girl has an aggressive personality and despises the rich. She, however, has a soft side to her friends and family.

The Young Girl

A black haired girl appears to be no older than 14-15 years old, the young girl is the accomplice of the kidnapper, who keeps an eye on Hao-Chen. She would follow every direction and order of the mysterious girl, and their relationship is yet to be uncovered.


One more thing, if I find it necessary for a group edit or trope proofreading before launching the work page, what should I do?

Edited by Mhazard on Aug 10th 2018 at 7:29:29 PM

Kida Since: May, 2017
#4868: Aug 10th 2018 at 8:04:39 AM

I got suspended coz of "grammar errors" but i can't point out where my edits' grammar went wrong.. what should i do then?

ElfenLiedFan90 Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression) from Jakarta,Indonesia Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression)
#4869: Aug 10th 2018 at 10:42:33 PM

Okay, as the Episode 5 comes out. I think it's time for sending the examples from Tenrou Sirius the Jaeger pages to be proofread. I'll try at my best to rework my grammar to the point I asked some friends for some feedback and I install Grammarly Keyboard. But feel free to proofread this again if the grammar still sucks:

  • Action Girl: Dorothea and Agatha. Dorothea is a gunner for the Jaegers and is on the good guy's side. However, Agatha is a vicious Blood Knight who is on the evil side.
  • Armour-Piercing Question:
    • In Episode 3, young Yuliy asks Willard about how should he live his life after his clan got massacred by the Vampires. Which resulted Willard doubting the path he took Yuliy down.
    • Mikhail asks Yuliy if he wants to leave him as the last one to kill after he kills all of the vampires. Which Yuliy hesitated to answer at first.
  • The Bartender: Willard has a friend named Akimoto who works in a bar at Japan. He is also the agent of the V Shipping Company in which the Jaegers collaborate with as for now.
  • Big Bad: Yevgraf is the young king of the Vampires who is revealed to be this as for now as he is the one who purged Yuliy's village and the one who sent the vampires to retrieve the Sirius Ark.
  • Cain and Abel: Yuliy and his brother Mikhail. Yuliy is the Abel of the group considered that he is the hero of the story who works for the Jaegers to kill all the evil vampires while Mikhail is the Cain since he turned himself into a vampire.
  • Cruel and Unusual Death:
    • In Episode 1, A lot of people were brutally sliced and murdered and the police suspected a serial killer called Kuratake who has been doing this.
    • In Episode 2, Dr. Hanada is then turned into dust after he turned into Vampire and then killed by the Jaegers.
    • In Episode 5, the Leader of Hyakko Party got his head decapitated by Klarwein's monster.
  • Curb-Stomp Battle:
    • In Episode 1, Yuliy and the rest of the Jaegers fight Kershner's mooks with ease.
    • In Episode 5, Mikhail defeats Klarwein's monster with a single blow which resulted the latter getting exploded.
  • Dark and Troubled Past: Yuliy's tribe were decimated by the Vampires and made it worse when Yuliy watches his mother died in front of him. When his brother, Mikhail, protected him from the vampires, Yuliy watches him getting slaughtered by the Vampires and thought that he was dead. That's not until the present day when Yuliy met with him who ended up getting turned into a vampire as a result.
  • Dracula: Kershner, Agatha and most of the people in the Vampire clan are obviously this. Because they are Vampires after all.
  • The Dragon: Kershner is probably this to Yevgraf because he got the orders from him to retrieve the Sirius Ark while Agatha is this to Kershner. As she functioned as a personal bodyguard or companion for Kershner.
  • Frankenstein Monster: Combined with Killer Robot. Klarwein creates a killing machine that looks like a Frankenstein Monster. It was also shown in the opening scene.
  • Five-Man Band: The Jaegers functioned as this. And is consisted of:
  • Fur Against Fang: The main premise of the show. However, the only known werewolves in this anime as of now is Yuliy, who tries to avenge his clans after being eradicated by the Vampires.
  • I Let Gwen Stacy Die: What Yuliy truly feels after killing Dr. Hanada which resulted in the latter's daughter being traumatized. This also impacts his decision if killing all of the Vampires was a good idea after he also saw Mikhail was alive and turning himself into a vampire.
  • Mad Scientist: Klarwein is a scientist who looks like a Victor Frankenstein Expy who sided with the vampires and tried to make the monster who looks like Frankenstein Monster.
  • My Parents Are Dead: In Episode 2, it was revealed that Yuliy's mother is long gone. And so does the mother of the daughter of Dr. Hanada that Yuliy befriends. It's become harsher for the latter as her father turned into a vampire and then ended up getting killed.
  • Nebulous Evil Organization: In Episode 4, it was revealed that the Alma Company hires the vampire to do their own bidding and selling illegal weapons to other people including the military. The independent terrorist organization, Hyakko Party may also count as this. As they kill innocent scientists thanks to them being employed by the Vampires.
  • Off with His Head!: In Episode 5, the leader of Hyakko Party got his head decapitated by Klarwein's monster.
  • Parental Substitute: After Yuliy's clan got massacred by the Vampires and he is the only one left that survived from said massacre, Willard becomes a father figure to him after he found him alone in the forest. As he the one who has the strongest attachment to Yuliy and tries to understands how Yuliy feels.
  • Please Kill Me If It Satisfies You: Mikhail orders Yuliy to kill him if he wants to eradicate all of the vampires so that Yuliy would satisfy his vengeance against them which Yuliy refused.
  • Serial Killer: In Episode 1, Kuratake is truly infamous in Japan as he slices his victims when he kills them and thus his name became notorious throughout Japan as this.
  • Stalker with a Crush: The daughter of the Baron who owns the V Shipping Company, Ryoko Naoe, seems to have a huge crush with Yuliy to the point that she stalks him to the train that transport Yuliy and Dorothea to Ginoza in Episode 4
  • Train Job: In Episode 5, the Hyakko Party hijacks a train that goes to Ginoza in order to find Kershner and his cronies.
  • Traintop Battle: In Episode 5, the Jaegers, the Vampires, the Japanese army and the Hyakko Party are fighting against each other (The Jaegers & the Japanese Army vs the Vampires & Hyakko Party) in a train. Played straight with Mikhail's fight against one of Klarwein's experiments as the battle takes place on the top of the train.
  • Vampire Hunter: The Jaegers are basically this. As it's their job for hunting the evil Vampires across the world.
  • Vengeance Feels Empty: After Yuliy's brother, Mikhail, turned into a vampire, he views all of the Avengers, including Yuliy, and the revenge itself to be pointless. He even said that the eye of an Avenger only has hatred, fear, sadness, and suffering.
  • Villainous Rescue: Sort of, In Episode 5, Mikhail saves Yuliy's life from the fight against Klarwein's monster.
  • Wham Line: What Mikhail said to Yuliy in Episode 5 could be considered as this such as:
    • "Will you kill everyone else leaving me last?"
    • "Come on, kill me once. You want to kill as many as vampires as quickly as possible, it's your chance, I will not oppose. Do it."
    • "It's enough Yuliy. You will never be an Avenger, forget this nonsense. And also forget my mother, the village, the box and me."
    • "But if you reappear before me as a Jaeger, you will no longer be my brother, you will be my enemy."
  • You Will Be Spared: It was revealed that Mikhail spares Yuliy's life in Episode 2 as he doesn't want to kill his own brother. He then lies to the vampires that he failed to kill Yuliy because of the wind.

For Wham Line part. I think the only thing that you can proofread is "What Mikhail said to Yuliy in Episode 5 could be considered as this such as:" but not what Mikhail said since this is what I got from the subs in Episode 5

Edited by ElfenLiedFan90 on Aug 11th 2018 at 12:43:23 AM

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#4870: Aug 11th 2018 at 3:40:29 AM

[up][up][up] @Mhazard

A rich boy named Hao-Chen Jiang is tied in a dim and dreary room that he has not seen before. As soon as he opens his eyes, a mysterious girl appears before him, asking him for a ransom. It is at that moment he realizes that he has been kidnapped, and he needs to figure out how to escape from the captors.
The player takes control of Hao-Chen Jiang, the hostage who gets kidnapped by two girls. During his days of imprisonment, you will need to examine the items around the room to formulate a plan to escape from the kidnappers or learn more about them. Besides, You will also need to interact with the kidnappers by answering their questions through various time-limited options. You can build your trust with them, or sometimes, outright berate your kidnappers when necessary.
One of the two kidnappers who holds Hao-Chen hostage in an abandoned building, the mysterious girl has an aggressive personality and despises the rich. However, she has a soft spot for her friends and family.
A black haired girl who appears to be no older than 14-15 years old, the young girl is the accomplice of the kidnapper <- no comma who keeps an eye on Hao-Chen. She would follows every direction and order of the mysterious girl, and their relationship is yet to be uncovered.

"One more thing, if I find it necessary for a group edit or trope proofreading before launching the work page, what should I do?"

I'm not sure what you mean. Anything that you decide to add needs to be proofread by someone here at least once.

Edited by Arivne on Aug 11th 2018 at 3:41:14 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#4871: Aug 11th 2018 at 3:43:37 AM

[up][up][up] @Kida

Just write up something that you would like to add to TV Tropes or a question on English and post it here.

I or someone else will either proofread it or try to answer it, respectively.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#4872: Aug 11th 2018 at 3:55:50 AM

[up][up][up] @Elfen Lied Fan 90

Some things to work on:

after his clan gets massacred by the Vampires. This results in Willard
  • Which Yuliy hesitated to answer at first. -> Which Yuliy hesitates to answer at first.

This is a sentence fragment because it should have been part of the previous sentence.

in which the Jaegers currently collaborate with as for now.
  • to be this as for now -> to be this as for now
  • Abel of the group considered -> Abel of the group considering
After he turns into a Vampire, Dr. Hanada is killed by the Jaegers and Reduced to Dust.
  • which resulted the latter getting exploded. -> which results in the latter exploding.
Yuliy's tribe is decimated by the Vampires and it is made it worse when Yuliy watches his mother die in front of him. When his brother, Mikhail, protects him from the vampires, Yuliy watches him getting slaughtered by the Vampires and thinks that he is dead. It's not until the present day when Yuliy meets with him that he ends up getting turned into a vampire as a result.
Kershner is probably this to Yevgraf because he got the orders from him to retrieve the Sirius Ark, <- comma while Agatha is this to Kershner as she functioned as a personal bodyguard or companion for him.

Saying someone or something "is probably" an example violates Examples Are Not Arguable. It's either an example or it isn't. If you're not sure, it isn't.

  • It was also shown in the opening scene. -> It is also shown in the opening scene.
  • And is consisted of: -> It consists of:
  • Although the main focus is him -> Although he is the main focus
However, the only known werewolf in this anime as of now is Yuliy, who tries to avenge his clans after they are eradicated by the Vampires.
What Yuliy truly feels after killing Dr. Hanada, <- comma which results in the latter's daughter being traumatized. This also impacts his worry over whether killing all of the Vampires was a good idea after he also saw Mikhail was alive and turning himself into a vampire.
  • Victor Frankenstein Expy who -> Victor Frankenstein Expy, <- comma who
In Episode 2, it is revealed that Yuliy's mother is long gone, <- comma and so is the mother
It becomes harsher for the latter, <- comma as her father turns into a vampire and then ends up getting killed.

The independent terrorist organization, Hyakko Party may also count as this.

This also violates Examples Are Not Arguable.

The independent terrorist organization <- no comma Hyakko Party may also count as this, as they kill innocent scientists because they're employed by the Vampires.
After Yuliy's clan is massacred by the Vampires and he is the only survivor, Willard becomes a father figure to him after he finds Yuliy alone in the forest, <- comma as he is the one who has the strongest attachment to Yuliy and tries to understands how he feels.
Mikhail orders Yuliy to kill him if he wants to eradicate all of the vampires so that Yuliy can satisfy his vengeance against them. Yuliy refuses'''.
Kuratake is truly infamous in Japan, <- comma as he slices his victims when he kills them, <- comma and thus his name becomes notorious throughout Japan as one of these.
huge crush on Yuliy, <- comma to the point that she stalks him to the train that transports Yuliy and Dorothea to Ginoza in Episode 4. <- period
In Episode 5. <- period In order to find Kershner and his cronies, the Hyakko Party hijacks a train that goes to Ginoza.

The way you wrote it, the train was trying to find Kershner and his cronies.

the Jaegers, the Vampires, the Japanese army and the Hyakko PartyThe Jaegers & the Japanese Army are fighting against the Vampires & the Hyakko Party in a train.

  • one of Klarwein's experiments as -> one of Klarwein's experiments, <- comma as
The Jaegers are basically this, as it's their job to hunt
  • Yuliy's brother, Mikhail, turned into -> After Yuliy's brother, Mikhail, turns into
Sort of. In Episode 5, Mikhail saves Yuliy's life during the fight
  • considered as this such as: -> considered as this, <- comma such as:
"Will you kill everyone else, <- comma leaving me last?"
You want to kill as many as vampires as possible
It is revealed that Mikhail spares Yuliy's life in Episode 2, <- comma as

Edited by Arivne on Aug 11th 2018 at 4:46:07 AM

Mhazard Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#4873: Aug 11th 2018 at 4:37:00 AM

@Arivne I've seen some people using Trope Launch Pad for work pages specifically for gathering up more tropes or having some discussions before launching them, even though work pages are supposed to be a free launch. It makes me think, if I can find Tropers familiar with the work to discuss what else to add before launching, the work page would be better and everything would be more accurate.

If so, is TLP the right place to do so? Or should I post the draft to somewhere else?

Edited by Mhazard on Aug 11th 2018 at 7:40:12 PM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#4874: Aug 11th 2018 at 4:51:28 AM

^ Yes, work pages can be put on the Trope Launch Pad as per Works' Pages Are a Free Launch.

Edited by Arivne on Aug 11th 2018 at 4:53:20 AM

ElfenLiedFan90 Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression) from Jakarta,Indonesia Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression)
#4875: Aug 11th 2018 at 5:08:34 AM

@Arivne Thanks. But yeah, the wording on the example at Train Job is rather hillarious [lol]. Sorry about that

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."

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