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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM

Tylerbear12 What you see is what you get, just a guy. from The Green Hills. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
What you see is what you get, just a guy.
#33876: Mar 10th 2025 at 2:15:46 PM

Trivia.Sonic The Hedgehog IDW:

  • Exiled from Continuity: Humans (Dr. Eggman aside) are not allowed to appear in the comic, which is why the likes of G.U.N., Princess Elise, and the humans from Unleashed, etc. haven't appeared. This is also why the few human locales that appear (Spagonia in issue #63, Westopolis in the 2024 annual, etc.) have the humans either relegated to tiny silhouettes (in the former's case) or replaced by funny animals (in the latter's case). This was initially due to the infamous two-worlds ideanote  that was enforced when the comic launched in 2017, but despite Sega retconing this in 2022 and humans having reappeared in the games and other media, they are still barred from the comic according to Ian Flynn.

Characters.Sonic The Hedgehog Eggman Empire:

Edited by Tylerbear12 on Mar 10th 2025 at 5:59:40 AM

PeppermintSoda i like cheese from Hideout Planet. It was once called Earth Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
i like cheese
#33877: Mar 11th 2025 at 12:42:50 AM

additional description:


As they continue to photograph natural occurrences and collect biological specimen, the astronauts contemplate on humanity within the giant sphere below them, wondering what their families are doing while they are up in space, missing major events in their lives. Even though them going to space is a huge achievement to humanity, they still feel lonely among each other, without international barriers, without the ravaging natural disasters down below.


  • Multinational Team: The six astronauts consist of two Russians, an American, an Italian, a Brit, and a Japanese, all who have voluntarily signed up to embark on this space mission.

  • Unusual Chapter Numbers: The chapters are labeled by the orbit number and whether it is ascending, descending, or into another orbit.

Edited by PeppermintSoda on Mar 12th 2025 at 12:37:32 AM

i like cheese
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#33878: Mar 11th 2025 at 8:24:50 AM

Page 1355 @K Boult

     Corrections 

A variation of this trope is that When Amber and Tara are lying in bed together, Amber says that her arms are asleep and Tara grumbles "Five more minutes". Then Amber jokes that if she has to amputate her arm, then she'll force Tara to take care of her.

When the Amber (who is in Hell) fights against demons...

Vince Schneider, the nephew of Stu Macher who delivers a takeaway <missing text> to Tara's house...Amber didn't kill Wes, <- comma as...

^ Delivers a takeaway what? Meal?

After getting drunk to stop Amber from communicating with Richie online, Tara...

^ How would Tara getting drunk stop Amber from communicating with Richie online?

While Amber and Tara are at Tara's house, Tara mentions a time that she and Amber...

...whenever Tara sleeps she snores is brought up a lot by Amber, <- comma and...

Edited by Arivne on Mar 11th 2025 at 8:27:11 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#33879: Mar 11th 2025 at 8:26:45 AM

[up] @Tylerbear 12

...they are still barred from the comic, <- comma according to Ian Flynn.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#33880: Mar 11th 2025 at 8:30:44 AM

[up] @Peppermint Soda

...collect biological specimens, the astronauts contemplate on humanity...a huge achievement for humanity...

...a Brit, and a Japanese, all of whom have...

KBoult Since: Jun, 2024
#33881: Mar 11th 2025 at 2:58:23 PM

Here are more tropes for the Scream fic, Quantum Entanglement.

• Back from The Dead: When Tara is sent back to the year before to stop Amber from killing people, she sees, besides Amber, the people who were killed (Judy and Wes Hicks, Liv, Dewey and Vince).

• Bound and Gagged: When Richie and Sam arrive at Amber's house to get Tara (in actuality, it is a trap planned by Sam and Amber to stop Richie from killing more people by killing him), Amber ties Tara up and puts her in a closet to keep her safe.

• Car Fu: At the beginning of the fic, while she is studying law in New York, Tara is run over by a car.

• Cheated Death, Died Anyway: Wes survives being stabbed by Amber, only to get his throat slit by Richie while he's recovering from his attack in the hospital.

• Dating What Daddy Hates: Even though she isn't in the story, Tara's mum is mentioned to be against gay people as she considers being gay disgusting and sinful. And even though we're not told how she reacted to Amber and Tara dating, it's more than likely that she wasn't pleased, as Tara mentioned that her mum never approved of her and Amber's friendship.

• Died in Your Arms Tonight: After killing Richie, Amber collapses from the stab wounds she received from Richie. Tara holds her as Amber succumbs to her wounds. This trope is then subverted when Tara wakes up in New York and walks back to the apartment she shares with Sam, she is saved from being hit by a car by Amber.

• Dies Differently in Adaptation:

° In the film, Wes is killed in his house by getting stabbed through the neck by Ghostface (In this story, it is revealed that it was Amber who killed him). But in this story, he survives the attack due to Amber hesitating to kill him, only for him to get killed in the hospital by Richie, who slits his throat.

° In the film, Richie is stabbed 22 times, has his throat slit and is shot 3 times, including once in the head by Sam. But in this story, he is stabbed by Sam but is stabbed and then shot in the head by Amber.

• Happy Rain: On a rainy afternoon, when Tara gives Amber the necklace that her father gave her, they decide to dance in the rain.

• Kindhearted Cat Lover: In the final chapter of this story, it is revealed that Amber and Tara own two cats.

• Neck Lift: When Tara is attacked by someone in a Ghostface costume (Richie), they grab her by the collar of her shirt, shake her and then throw her to the ground.

• Once More, with Clarity: Right before Tara is run over by a car in the original timeline while studying in New York, she sees Amber standing on the other side of the road, screaming at her to run. When we're shown Amber in Hell, she watches Tara on a monitor and when she sees the car approaching, she is somehow transported to New York to scream at Tara to run.

• Only I Can Kill Him: When Sam is finished stabbing Richie, she sees Amber approaching so she moves aside, recognising how much Amber needed to be the one to defeat Richie, as he tried to manipulate Amber to not only attack Tara but also kill people.

• Preserve Your Gays: Even though it appeared that Tara failed to save her girlfriend Amber from being killed by Richie (who Amber killed before supposedly succumbing to the stab wounds that he gave her for betraying him), it is revealed that Amber survived and that she and Tara are still dating.

• Redemption Equals Life: After facing the demons that symbolise the people she killed and Richie so that she can get out of Hell (at the same time that Tara is trying to stop an Amber from an alternate universe), Amber is able to continue on in her alternate self's body while living with Tara.

• What Did I Do Last Night?: Amber reveals to Tara that whenever Tara gets drunk from drinking her mum's alcohol, she kisses Amber and the next morning would forget that she did it.

Edited by KBoult on Mar 12th 2025 at 9:25:14 AM

Tylerbear12 What you see is what you get, just a guy. from The Green Hills. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
What you see is what you get, just a guy.
#33882: Mar 11th 2025 at 3:03:06 PM

Thanks, Arivne.


Awesome.Video Game Levels (Sonic Unleashed)
  • Empire City: Skyscraper Scamper Night, Act 1 is a favorite amongst fans of the Werehog, as it's a level set high up in the skies of Empire City where you jump and swing your way across skyscrapers and beat up enemies in a beautiful nighttime cityscape, all to a smooth and jazzy theme.

Undead Horse Trope:

  • Love at First Sight: Despite being parodied and deconstructed in many works, the idea of two people immediately falling in love with each other at first sight remains a prominent trope, especially in romantic comedies, romance novels, and family-friendly works. It helps that it's a convenient way to justify two characters hooking up without wasting time that could be spent elsewhere in the story building up the romance.

YMMV.The Boy And The Heron:

  • Critical Dissonance: While critics have critically acclaimed the film, audiences were more divided, with some either agreeing with the critics that it is a masterpiece and others finding it to be one of Miyazaki's weaker films due to its overreliance on ambiguity. This sentiment can be felt when the film won Best Animated Feature at the Oscars, as while many critics celebrated its win, many general audiences saw it as a consolation award and felt the award should've been given to Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse.

  • Spiritual Antithesis: In a way, this film can be viewed as Miyazaki's response to Grave of the Fireflies, seeing as both films are set in the immediate aftermath of WWII and have the protagonists' moms die via the fire-bombings, with them learning how to live without them. The most significant difference between them is that while Grave of the Fireflies ends on an utterly tragic note with its protagonists dying, Boy and the Heron has a more hopeful message about moving forward and living life. The fact that Miyazaki made it with Takahata's passing fresh on his mind only strengthens their connection.

Edited by Tylerbear12 on Mar 12th 2025 at 11:54:28 AM

jahman Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#33883: Mar 11th 2025 at 9:51:17 PM

Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur (2023)

Rocking Rudy

  • Villain Respect: His decision to show up and bid farewell to Moon Girl and Devil in the series finale, even with the looming threat of capture, suggests that he relishes the challenge they presented. He’ll miss them, just like the rest of the LES community.

Molecule Man

  • Final Boss: The last foe Lunella and Devil face in the Season 2A.

Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur (2023) S2E18 "Full Moon"

  • Awkward Father-Son Bonding Activity: The theme of Gender Inverted and Subverted is evident in the ongoing awkwardness between Adira and Lunella since the events of "The Molecule Level," which revolves around Lunella revealing her identity as Moon Girl to her family, while Adira grapples with her worries about the risks associated with her daughter's superhero life. When Lunella experiences her first period, it sparks a much-needed mother-daughter day that provides an opportunity for them to mend their relationship despite its ups and downs. Through this experience, Adira gradually lets go of her recent bitterness and fears concerning Lunella's superhero persona, ultimately paving the way for her to reconcile with her cherished daughter.

Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur (2023)

  • Mental Health Recovery Arc: The bond within the Lafayette family has been tested in the aftermath of "The Molecule Level." In this story arc, Lunella reveals her identity as Moon Girl to her family, while Adira struggles with her concerns about the dangers that come with her daughter’s superhero lifestyle. At the same time, Mimi’s history as the Original Moon Girl comes to light, further complicating matters as the family faces a traumatic attack at the hands of the vengeful Molecule Man in their own home. Though it took time to heal, by the end of "Full Moon," Adira reconciles with Lunella, accepting Moon Girl as an essential part of her daughter’s identity. Through this journey, the family emerges with a restored, stronger, and more united bond than ever before.

Relationship Gone Public

Anime & Manga

  • In "Sensual Phrase," Aine and Sakuya have been keeping their relationship under wraps due to its uneven dynamics. However, a confrontation with Tomoyuki from Jesus leads to a serious incident for Sakuya, unintentionally thrusting Aine into the spotlight. Despite recovering from his injuries, Sakuya holds a press conference to officially announce their relationship. He emphasizes Aine's significance to him and expresses his commitment to her safety, aiming to shift any potential blame for the incident away from her. This bold move complicates their lives even further as they navigate the aftermath.

Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur (2023)

  • Even Rocking Rudy makes an appearance to bid farewell to Moon Girl and Devil in the series finale despite the looming threat of capture. This suggests that he enjoys the challenge they presented. He will miss them like the rest of the Lower East Side community.
    Rocking Rudy: Moon Girl and Devil are rollin ouuuuuuuuuttttttttt!

Edited by jahman on Mar 11th 2025 at 11:32:30 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#33884: Mar 12th 2025 at 8:52:54 AM

[up] @K Boult

     Corrections 

Wes survives being stabbed to death by Amber, <- comma only to get his throat slit by Richie while he's recovering in the hospital from her attack.

A variation of this trope is that Even though we don't she isn't...as she considers being gay disgusting and sinful.

But in this story, he survives the attack due to Amber hesitating to kill him, <- comma only for him to get killed in the hospital by Richie, who slits his throat.

In the film, Richie is stabbed 22 times, has his throat slit and is shot 3 times, including once in the head by Sam. But in this story, he is stabbed by Sam but is stabbed and then shot in the head by Amber.

A variation of this trope is When Sam is finished...

...get out of Hell (at the same time...), Amber is able to continue on in her alternate self's body while living with Tara.

^ It was tricky to re-write this so it didn't say that they're living in the same body.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#33885: Mar 12th 2025 at 8:58:55 AM

[up] @Tylerbear 12

...skies of Empire City where you jump...beat up enemies in a beautiful...

...due to its over-reliance on ambiguity. This sentiment could be felt when the film won Best Animated Feature at the Oscars...

The biggest difference between them, besides...

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#33886: Mar 12th 2025 at 9:07:14 AM

[up] @jahman

However, a confrontation with Tomoyuki from Jesus leads to a...

^ "confrontation with Tomoyuki from Jesus" isn't correct English. Did you mean to write "confrontation with Tomoyuki and Jesus"?

He will miss them like the rest of the Lower East Side community does.

jahman Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
Player8950 Since: Sep, 2024
#33888: Mar 12th 2025 at 11:31:57 AM

Pending Edit. Goes in If I Am Ever Head of an Alien-Monitoring Agency, the note near "Big stars are generally unsuitable for life" sentence. [Square brackets] and tilted text and things what won't be in the actual edit.

  • [Note's current unaltered contents; "Well, for known forms of life. Something like Silicon-Based Life or equally robust lifeforms could live there - as could entirely robot-AI-only civilizations."] [Then, things i plan to add in the note: Another variant, is what the named star is a colony, as species originated and developed elsewhere; then, combination of sufficiently advanced technologies and sufficiently stubborn settlers allowed aliens to settle where they shouldn't normally by; therefore, if aliens claim to originate from that system, then they only mean it as "where i and my crew members were born" sense, not as "my entire species home world" sense (e.g. John the Yankee is born in USA - but Humanity As The Whole originates from Africa; or Bob the Reptiloid is born in Orion System - but his species originate from Planet Nibiru).]

Alternatively, in "Weapons and combat procedures", part 19:

  • Another plausible variant, is what the named star is a colony, as species originated and developed elsewhere - then, combination of sufficiently advanced technologies and sufficiently stubborn settlers allowed aliens to settle where they shouldn't normally by. Therefore, if aliens claim to originate from that system, then they only mean it as "where i and my crew members were born" sense, not as "my entire species home world" sensenote . Therefore, we will ask the question of: "Does only you and your crew members specifically originate from [star name], or is it origin world of your species?".

Pending Edit, in "Weapons and combat procedures", part 5. Add to the last sentence; it will look like this:

  • This provides both redundancy and cost savings for targets not requiring a true anti-tank weapon, and/or requiring many hits from anti-tank weaponsnote .

Another Pending Edit, goes in Fluffy Pony:

Fluffy Pony world will end up having Third World War
Since Fluffy Pony humans are more violent/psychotic on average (in comparison to average IRL humans), they would logically be more eager to start wars and other armed conflicts. Naturally, this would turn their world into, metaphorically speaking, giant powder keg waiting for spark.

For example, one such scenario has Ukrainian Special Military Operation escalating out of control, with European Union countries getting dragged in, and Russia calling in allies and using more desperate measures to compensate for sudden increase in enemy numbers. At the very least, Russian Army ends up conquering Europe on tanks; at most, full-on World War III starts and nukes starts flying left and right.

"Fluffy Ponies" and other Biotoys start dwindling in numbers, as bio-labs switch to producing Super Soldiers, Bio Weapons and other profitable things needed to win the war. Meanwhile, as mass mobilization goes, Fluffy Ponies aren't exempt either (if mentally disabled can end up being drafted, then Biotoys can too); their brains are loaded in either brain jars or cybernetic bodies, they get modified for increased aggression and intellect, all sorts of war and combat knowledge gets loaded into their minds - and they end up being either vehicle crew members, or cyborg soldiers - basically, turning into competent, if childish and stupid, soldiers. At this point, differences in Fluffy Ponies species finally starts to appear: such as Pegasi being turned into Jet Pack troopers or aircraft crew - and Unicorns/Alicorns being turned into smart users of Psychic Powers and Functional Magic, at the cost of being especially insane, psychotic and unstable (not unlike Warhammer 40,000 Psykers). If nuclear war starts, all non-conscripted Fluffy Ponies end up dying (either from radiation, hunger, or someone eats them).

And, there would be new Super-Soldier type from Fluffy Pony's Hasbro. Behold the "Stormmare"/"Warmare" (or something equally intimidating): it has strength and agility of dogs; dexterity and grace of cats; horns tougher than those of goats; wings actually capable of flight; endurance of horses; fast-breeding, incredibly speed and ability to burrow of rabbits; intellect slightly superior to that of normal human; posture and size of Space Marines; ferocity of Khorne Berserkers; and military knowledge at the very least equivalent to that of a soldier who passed eighty years of non-stop wars, and graduated at every single military academy. Long story short, "Warmares" transcend typical NATO soldiers to same degree, to which NATO soldiers transcend Fluffy Ponies; these "Warmares" are Space Marines of NATO, and will either put a decisive end to war, or allow European contingent to survive for as long as possible. Their enemy counterpart are even more heavily augmented and trained russian Warbear Spetsnaz, what is even more powerful than Warmares.

Another Pending Edit, goes in GURPS, in Popular Game Variant, in "Penalty for using equipment of higher/lower TL than your own" part:

  • Muscule-powered weapons and non-mechanized armor works regardless of what your TL is. For example, if TL0 caveman/barbarian stumbled upon Ultra-Tech hyperdense melee weapon/tool, he could use it; similarly, if he stumbled upon vehicle/machinery/building wreckage, he could turn hyperdense scrap into crude melee weapons and armor (e.g. shiv, spear, axe, etc); and, if such caveman/barbarian stumbled into High-Tech bullet-proof vest or Ultra-Tech tactical suit, he could wear it. Even low-sapient (e.g. comparable to chimpanzee) could take sharp piece of armature and stab someone with it, as long as they're capable of utilizing pointy sticks. On the other half, TL12^ man is still capable of stabbing someone with pointy stick, if he needs to.

Another Pending Edit, goes in GURPS, Game-Breaker part about Replicators. Sentence of [including "Disassembler Nanoglop", "Disassembler Swarm, Replicating", Mininuke and Micro-Antimatter] will look like:

  • (including "Disassembler Nanoglop", "Disassembler Swarm, Replicating", Mininuke, Micro-Antimatter and Strategic Nukes)

Yes, i did find the book what stats strategic-scale nukes - and i scaled their power up and down. But, i won't show it to you - due to your pathological copyrightofilia - until you make a promise, what you will never ever ban anyone for sharing copyrighted materials.

Edited by Player8950 on Mar 13th 2025 at 2:42:43 PM

KBoult Since: Jun, 2024
#33889: Mar 12th 2025 at 11:35:31 AM

Here are more tropes for the Scream fic, Quantum Entanglement.

• Adapted Out: Sidney and Gale are only mentioned once, when Sam suggests that they can help stop Richie from killing people, but they do not appear in the story.

• Bilingual Bonus: When Tara is comforting Amber after she has a nightmare of attacking Tara, Amber mutters "Te amo mi angel", which is Spanish for "I love you my angel".

• Blinded by the Light: When Amber sees that Wes has dyed his hair blond, she shields her eyes and jokes that she mistook him for the sun.

• Borrowed Catchphrase: After killing Richie by shooting him in the head, Amber says "I still prefer the Babadook.", which are the same words that Tara said when she killed Amber in the original timeline.

• Character Catchphrase: Whenever Amber greets Tara, she says "Hey, come here often?".

• Clear Their Name: When Amber is arrested for killing Wes (he said to his mum that Amber tried to kill him, but it was Richie that killed him at the hospital) Tara proves that Amber was with her at Tara's house when he was killed. She gets Vince, who was delivering a takeaway meal to Tara's house at the moment that Wes was killed, to confirm that Amber was there with Tara.

• Cruelty by Feet: When Ghostface (Richie) attacks Tara in her house and she doesn't fight back, he kicks her multiple times in the side and stomps on her leg, fracturing it.

• Eye Scream: During her online talks with Richie, Amber talks about how nice it would be to stab Wes' eye sockets out so that he couldn't ever look at Tara again.

• Forced to Watch: While she is in Hell, Amber is forced to watch Tara get run over in New York and then see her get attacked by Richie in the alternate timeline in a similar way to how Amber attacked her in the original timeline (stomping on her leg and stabbing her through the hand).

• Groin Attack: While reminiscing about their childhood, Tara mentions a time that Amber and Mindy kicked a boy in the balls for asking who was the husband (Amber and Tara were pretending to be a married couple and using a tiny wooden house in the school playground as their house).

• My God, What Have I Done?: While she is being tortured in Hell, Amber reveals that she regrets killing people and hurting Tara, the girl she loves, to make a better Stab film.

• The Sheriff: Judy Hicks is the sheriff of Woodsboro who wants to catch the Ghostface killer after they attack and then kill her son Wes.

• Sickbed Slaying: After he survives being stabbed by Amber, Wes is killed by Richie, who slits his throat while he's recovering from his wounds in the hospital.

• Surprisingly Realistic Outcome: After being released from the hospital, Tara goes to her house with Amber. They can't go upstairs because Tara's leg is fractured from Richie stomping on it, so they decide to stay downstairs.

• Tampering With Food and Drink: Tara mentions a time that Amber replaced Tara's mum's bottles of alcohol with water and even spat in the bottles.

• Title Drop: The title of the fic is said in the summary of chapter 14.

Summary: An interlude chapter to give us a little more perspective on the Quantum Entanglement between Tara and Amber.

Edited by KBoult on Mar 13th 2025 at 12:17:02 PM

ssbob90 Since: Sep, 2015
#33890: Mar 12th 2025 at 10:36:28 PM

Scratch Damage

  • Lancer: Weapons that are tagged with Reliable X will deal X damage to target.

Ayumi-chan 3rd happiest man in Connecticut from Iacon City (Experienced Trainee) Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
3rd happiest man in Connecticut
#33891: Mar 13th 2025 at 1:59:54 AM

Fanfic.Optimus On Earth

  • Adaptational Deviation: As a result of Elita never becoming Blackarachnia, the events of "Along Came a Spider" didn't happen.
  • Bifauxnen and Lad-ette: The two most prominent female characters in the main story, Elita and Amaya, fit this dynamic. Elita is a (mostly) composed leader figure who shares Optimus' Team Dad tendencies and is still rather feminine looking. Amaya, on the other hand, is more combat hardened, had a masculine fashion sense (including dyed hair and lack of make up) and has more stereotypically masculine personality traits (such as her being a Deadpan Snarker and her enjoying fighting criminals).
  • Compressed Adaptation: By the author's own admission, the fic avoid being a full-out retelling and scenes are skipped over for either retold or new portions.
  • Shout-Out: The movie Optimus takes Elita to is an Indiana Jones movie marathon.

Edited by Ayumi-chan on Mar 13th 2025 at 5:01:01 PM

She/Her | Currently cleaning: N/A
Alpinist Since: Jul, 2023
#33892: Mar 13th 2025 at 6:03:32 AM

Spent the last couple of days just adding quotes and preparing to cut myself off but I’ve never been able to ignore Star Wars character stuff when it comes to me and the idea of never being able to post these characters when I doubt anyone else ever will really got to me. So, while I still except to be done within a week and probably tommorow or the day after (since this is well over your usual limit and will probably need to repost some of it) I was premature in saying I was done.

Most of the folders are short but there are a few long ones.

@ Star Wars: Republic

    open/close all folders 

Government Officials

    Sagoro Autem 

Sagoro Autem

Species: Human

A proud Senate guard turned disgraced mercenary who works his way back into honorable Republic service only for the Empire to interfere with that.
  • Declining Promotion: He let his first partner have a promotion that was offered to him due to wanting to stay in the field.
  • Do-Anything Soldier: At different times he performs the roles of Senate bodyguard, Hard Boiled Detective, commando raid member, and naval commander, excelling at them all.
  • Family Versus Career: He admits to valuing the Republic over his wife and children, eventually leading to his divorce and his son becoming an Unwitting Pawn in a plot and nearly being arrested. Then. Sagoro, who has just seen the worst of the Senate and had to kill his own political assassin brother, sacrifices his career to let his son escape, sadly telling a colleague, "I'm sorry, partner. The Republic's not worth it. Maybe it never was." Years later, he finally reunites with his family after abandoning the Empire.
  • Legacy of Service: He comes from proud generations of Senate Guards and follows in their footsteps.

    Jace Dallin 

Jace Dallin

Species: Human

A naval officer who repeatedly works alongside Jedi, first as a grudging rival, later as a trusted ally.
  • Reasonable Authority Figure: He has his initial prejudices, but doesn’t let them blind him to heroism and good judgement and becomes an effective tactician and genuine Nice Guy.
  • Sacrificial Lion: He debuts early on and sticks around for several years as a regular military ally before he is Thrown from the Zeppelin by Vader for questioning whether the Jedi really betrayed the Republic.

    Isaru Omin 

Isaru Omin

Species: Human

The Senate Guard partner of Sagoro Autem.
  • By-the-Book Cop: He is a diligent investigator who sympathizes with how Reymet Autem was manipulated but still feels obliged to arrest him and let him prove his innocence in court and reports Sagoro for stopping him from doing so. Subverted after the Republic becomes the Empire, which horrifies him enough to help Sagoro escape a purge.
  • Mauve Shirt: He first appears right before the outbreak of the Clone Wars, makes one appearance guarding Bail Organa during the war, and is murdered by Darth Vader for helping Austem flee soon after Order 66.
  • Refused by the Call: He is a Force-Sensitive, but was considered too old for Jedi training once he was found out to be a Force-Sensitive.

    Teron 

Teron

Species: Human

A heroic Republic officer who encounters his former commander K'Kruhk after the rise of the Empire.
  • Officer and a Gentleman: He is a an erect, polite, yet strong-willed officer who dedicates himself to protecting civilians and secretly views the Jedi as heroes even after Order 66.
  • Remember the New Guy?: K'Kruhk remembers him as a hero from the Siege of Saluecami, but he was not shown in the arc covering that battle and only debuts in Dark Times.
  • Uncertain Doom: He eventually stops delivering supplies to the hidden Jedi and they agree that he is likely dead for this to happen, but there are other, innocent explanations for why he might be unable to come.

    Tracton 

Tracton

Species: Quarren

A scientific advisor to Senator Tikkes, a target of Aurra Sing and future Separatist who encounters the Jedi while looking for a planet to exploit.
  • Condescending Compassion: He is nicer than his boss and compliments A'Sharad for the depth of his knowledge, but also shows surprise that a "savage" Tusken Raider like him could know so much or become a Jedi.
  • High-Class Glass: He works for a powerful senator, seems well-off himself, and wears a monocle.
  • Omnidisciplinary Scientist: He works in meteorology, mineralogy, and planetary ecosystems.

    Silias 

Silais

Species: Twi'lek

A Republic Repersenative wanting to modernize Cerea.
  • "Ass" in Ambassador: He does little to hide how he thinks it is stupid and naive of the people he is dealing with to have gone for so long without technology like what he offers.
  • Good Is Not Nice: There are shady happenings on Cerea and his publci disputes with Ki and Smug Smiler nature don't do him any favors, but he seems to be innocent of any outright corruption and even gifts Ki with several droids that greatly help him (although he still rubs in how Ki needs technology after earlier speaking against it).
  • Smug Smiler: He has an intense and superior edge to his smiles even while being helpful.

Jedi relatives

    Ros Lai 

Ros Lai

Species: Half-Human Hybrid

The daughter of Nightsister Queen Zalem and a Jedi Sex Slave who Zalem later murdered. She shapeshifts into a The Igor figure to stay Beneath Notice and plot against her mother.
  • Combat Medic: She is a Lady of War fighter who also heals Quinlan of an infection using some of her blood and a ritual.
  • The Dog Bites Back: She shuns the idea of forgiving her enemies and happily cuts down a Nightsister who bullied her in the past.
  • Evil Redhead: Zigzagged. She has curly red hair in her true form and is willing to commit brutal actions to protect and rule her people, but she also loves and mourns her Jedi father and communes with his Force ghostr, is nicer to slaves than her fellow Nightsisters (even mourning Yag Shushin a bit after his Heroic Sacrifice) and helps Quinlan for part of the story before reluctantly deciding he is a threat to her clan and plans, and he senses good in her and tries to bring it out at the end of her arc rather than just take her to prison. By the Clone Wars, she has made a Hazy-Feel Turn and helps fight the Separatists.
  • Lady of War: She is an ambitious and powerful fighter who wears a thong corset, High-Class Gloves, and Thigh High Boots.
  • Master of Illusion: She makes herself look like a hunchbacked figure with a swollen face rather than the Hot Witch she is and also fakes stabbing Quinlan to death with her magic when she really never touched him.
  • Purple Is Powerful: She wears a purple corset and shawl and is a seasoned tactician and fighter who briefly takes over her clan.

    The Mundi Family 

The Mundi Family (Shea, Marin, Sylyn, etc.)

Species: Cerean

The four wives and seven daughters of Ki-Adi-Mundi.
  • Bratty Teenage Daughter: Sylvn is a broody kid who gets involved with a street gang and dislikes the view her dad holds, although she pleads with a friend to save him from a mob and shows great introspection and courage after being kidnapped by a Hutt goon.
  • Demoted to Extra: They are rarely mentioned after the retroactive reveal that most Jedi are forbidden from attachments and, despite their clear close and warmth relationship with Ki, are said to be merely people he got an exemption for to help with the low birth rate on Ceres and is believed to feel detached from.
  • Everyone Loves Blondes: Shea, the first wife Ki married and the one he loves best (despite some Slap-Slap-Kiss bickering), has blonde hair
  • Morality Pet: Ki is more affectionate and protective around them than lost of his fellow Jedi.

    Aunanna 

Aunanna

Species: Human

A Nar Shaada vagrant and moonshiner.

    Lon Secura 

Lon Secura

Species: Twi'lek

One of Aayla Secura's uncles.

    Pol Secura 

Pol Secura

Species: Twi'lek

One of Aayla Secura's uncles.
  • Evil Uncle: Pol sells his niece as a slave after taking her in when her father died and then scapegoats his cousin for things, although he later chooses to mind wipe her rather than kill her when, as a Jedi, she threatens his smuggling plans.

    Zalem 

Zalem

Species: Unknown

A Nightsister clan leader and the mother of Ros Lai.
  • Abusive Parents: She treats her daughter like a slave and is embarrassed for seemingly being disfigured.
  • The Conqueror: She has brought several clans together through oration and subjugation and longs to use her forces to seize an ancient weapon and destroy Coruscant so the Nightsisters can leave their prison planet. She implies that she accomplished much of this through betrayal rather than brute force at one point,
  • God Save Us from the Queen!: She is a monarch who gleefully discusses her rejection any idea of compassion or ethics and wants to destroy Coruscant.
  • So Proud of You: She beams with approval to learn Ros spent years faking her true nature to plot against Zalem, saying it is worthy of a daughter of her line.

    Vonya 

Vonya

Species: Unknown

Zalem's lieutenant.
  • Aloof Dark-Haired Girl: She has long dark hair, a well-developed figure that is often commented on, and a haughty and selfish air.
  • The Bully: She mocks the disguised Ros Lai and dumps liquid on her, only showing her respect and acceptance when she reveals her beautiful true form.
  • Dark Action Girl: She pilots an armed transport ship, handily survives her first fight with Ros, and repels invaders from another village, all while working toward evil goals.
  • The Dragon: Zalem is the aloof leader, Vonya the proactive soldier who makes Zalem's evil plans happen and secures their borders.
  • Navel-Deep Neckline: The front right and left sides of her corset come together a few times but leave a lot of space open to show off her navel and part of her breasts.
  • Torture Technician: She injects Vos with artery worms to punish and interrogate him.

    Yag Shushin 

Yag Shushin

Species: Givin

A slave of the Nightsisters who befriends Quinlan. —-
  • Pint-Sized Powerhouse: He is a bit short and skeletally thin but can kill or knock out seasoned fighters in multiple fights.
  • Secret-Keeper: He sees Quinlan use a lightsaber but helps him hide his identity.
  • The Sneaky Guy: Quinlan repeatedly trusts him with stealing things or breaking into ships.
  • Taking the Bullet: He jumps between Quinlan and Ros and an energy blast.

    Bron 

Bron

Species: Human

A mysterious figure seeking to end Cerea's isolation.
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    Twin 

Twin

Species: Cerean

One of Sylvn's friends.
  • Dude Magnet: She spends most of her appearance wearing Painted-On Pants and a Sports Bra and is desired by most if not all of her male acquaintances.
  • Dumb Blonde: She is a blonde teen not immune to loud, Valley Girl exclamations, and even she eventually admits that the lure of new luxuries got her dangerously in over her head, and thinks that some lightning tickles and feels nice for a moment before the pain of the shock sets in.

    Gargonn the Hutt 

Gargonn

Species: Hutt

A circus sponsor and endangered animal smuggler.
  • Facial Horror: The right side of his head is missing from an old bite wound, but he can still think, talk, and live due to Hutt regenerative capacities.
  • Impoverished Patrician: Hutts tend to be born into wealthy dynasties, but he spent time living on the streets, Reduced to Ratburgers before clawing his way up.

    Venco Autem 

Venco Autem

Species: Human

The Manipulative Bastard black sheep brother of Sagoro.
  • Cain and Abel: His brother previously arrested him for taking bribes and Venco is willing to endanger Sagoro’s life and get his son involved in a serious crime.
  • Your Days Are Numbered: A terminal illness makes him get in touch with his family again before he dies and also seek to conduct an assassination that will destroy the Republic he hates.

    Tallet and Lekket 

Tallet and Lekket

Species: Quarren

Two fugitives who hire Aurra Sing to kill Senator Tikkes (who betrayed their criminal dealings to the authorities, and the Dark Woman.
  • Agent Peacock: They may seem like simple oppulent, frivolous crooked businessman but show some agility, grit, and cunning in fleeing from the Dark Woman in their flashback.
  • Facial Horrror: Tallet's face is badly burned due to deflected blaster botls form when the Dark Woman tried to arrest him.
  • I Used To Be A Looker: Tallet bemoans how beautiful he was to Quarren women before his injuries.
  • Siblings in Crime: They are "egg mates" who conduct illegal deals with the Hutts and later hire an assassin together.
  • What Happened to the Mouse?: Their assassin fails and both of her targets remain alive years later but the pair are never seen after hiring Aurra.

    The Uhumele Crew

The Uhumele Crew (CAPTAIN Schurk-Heren, Bomo Greenbark, Meekerdin-maa, Mezgraf, Lynaliskar K'ra Snyffulnimatta, Crys Taanzer, Ko Vakier, H2, Ember Chankeli, and Janks)

The crew of a smuggling vessel that ends up ferrying Dass Jennir and then continuing to have run-ins with the Empire after they temporarily part ways. Bomo, Ember, and the droid H2(who mainly accompanies Jennir) are later additions to their band.
  • Big Guy Fatality Syndrome: Zigzagged, Mezgraf and Vakier are the most tough and experienced fighters and both make it to the final arc, where [[spoiler:Vakier loses his life and Mezgraf his arm while fighting Sahdett. 
  • Do Not Call Me "Paul": Snyffulnimatta hates being called Sniffles.
  • Dwindling Party: They pick up a few replacement members, but the original crew of seven is reduced to three due to hostile encounters with the Empire and gangsters, which greatly distresses the A Father to His Men captain.
  • The Engineer: Meekerdin-maa and Janks keep the ship engines running and perform other bits of repair and tinkering.
  • High-Heel–Face Turn: Ember hires and flirts with a mysterious mercenary (a disguised Dass Jennir) to run slavers out of her town. She turns out to be playing Jennir on behalf of a gang of spice runners who are rivals with the slavers, but a combination of having her bridges burned by his Spanner in the Works moments, witnessing his heroism, and a romantic attachment sets her on a better path.
  • Lovable Rogue: The original crew are smugglers but they scorn slavers and the Empire and are quick to volunteer to help people they barely know reduce their loved ones.
  • Trauma Conga Line:
    • Bomo goes through brutal war experiences while trying to help the economic prosperity of his people, is prepared to die so the civilians of his tribe can escape, sees his surrendering comrades gunned down, learns the refugees were caught and enslaved, fails to reduce first his wife and then his daughter before they are killed, and is unable to spare the time or resources to reduce some of his other neighbors from imprisonment.
    • Crys is a war refuge who was terrorized, lost her husband and gave up her son to the Jed to get him away from a battlefield only to later realize he would have lived if he had stayed and is probably dead in Order 66 because she let him go. She had to scavenge to survive before joining the crew, is nearly made a Sex Slave after being kidnapped, and is a infected with the rakghoul plague.
  • You Kill It, You Bought It: H2 is the pilot droid of a murderer Jennir kills. Afterward he takes the droid with him and, while they do bond, H2 likes to snarkily call Dass "Man who Killed My Master."
  •     Mors Demanna 

    Mors Demanna

    Species: Chagrian

    A haughty swordsman and the main enforcer for a gang of slavers.
    • Noble Top Enforcer: Zigzagged and deconstructed. Even while working for a Hate Sink slaver, he religiously follows a code of conduct that includes never killing an unarmed opponent, but confidence in his abilities and a desire for respect govern his acts more than actual honor, which Dass points out. That said, he ultimately does betray his boss for wanting to sacrifice their men, is willing to Face Death with Dignity in defeat, and reacts humbly to being shown mercy.
    @ When Time Ran Out...
    • Ensemble Dark Horse: Lady in Red bar girl Marsha has little dialogue or plot relevance but is better remembered than several of the main or secondary characters.
    • Values Dissonance: Shelby's Dogged Nice Guy repeated marriage proposals toward Kay, his explicitly uninterested secretary, have not aged well, although fortunately it never does develop into any physical sexual assault.
    • The Woobie: Nikki is one of the nicest and best-adjusted people at the resort, but after barely surviving a traumatic fate during the tsunami, is told by her godfather that her husband is an unloving Gold Digger, stays behind to risk death by lava just to be with her husband anyway, then finds out he is indeed cheating on her, with him mocking her and leaving her to die alone for the last act.

    @ Characters Star Wars Visions

        Elder Prisoner 
    Perhaps the oldest man in the Pit.
    • The Old Convict: He is a gray-bearded man mostly working alongside younger people and has seen enough to be cynical about whether the City knowing about their predicament would do anything to help them or not, although he does join in chanting for help at the end.

    @ Awesome Visions

    • Ara's impassioned speech to the Jedi Council about her plan to destroy a statue helping harness the Dark Side.
    • Toul's master gets between him and Bichan in Lightning Bruiser Papa Wolf mode and makes impressive progress in their duel in the flashback.
    • Bichan's Combat Pragmatist use of his chain weapons to defeat opponents.

    Edited by Alpinist on Mar 13th 2025 at 1:08:45 AM

    Duy03 Since: Dec, 2023
    #33893: Mar 13th 2025 at 6:19:20 AM

    Running Gag.SiIvaGunner

    Please suggest trimming and missing tropes if necessary)

    • In the advent of Season 9 seeing Stingy from LazyTown as the new channel host, many rips under him are based on his “Mine Song”, many of which is labeled “MY version”.
    • Additionally, during the first few weeks of Stingy’s takeover, he made posts and comments on the channel “claiming” ownership over several memes and games, and sure enough these immediately see frequent usage in rips during this period. After Stingy declared ownership of everything, the channel returned to regular uploads but his earlier jokes set are still regularly sampled throughout the season, albeit at a less frequent rate. These include but not limited to:
      • Rips of Deltarune, in response to a YouTube commenter fearing Stingy will claim the titular game.
      • Rips of Minecraft, because “Mine” is in the name.
      • “Astronomia” by Vicetone and Tony Igy, when Stingy claimed the coffin of the associated dancing pallbearers.
      • “Sweatshirt” by Jacob Sartorius, when Stingy claimed… Jacob’s sweatshirt.
      • The Lorax (2012), when Stingy claimed The Onceler’s Thneeds and Truffula trees.
      • “Burning Desires” from Zenless Zone Zero, when Stingy claimed “mocktails, mixers, ice.”
      • Rips of Mega Man, when Stingy claimed the titular blue bomber.
      • Burger King foot lettuce, when Stingy claimed those “healthy greens” for “both your feet.”
      • “I CAN SWING MY SWORD” by Tobuscus, when Stingy claimed the patent for a sword.
      • “Shooting Stars” by Bag Raiders, when Stingy wished under the stars for all to be his.
      • “Thick Of It” by KSI feat. Trippie Redd, when Stingy claims everything “from the screen, to the ring, to the pen, to the king.”
      • “Se Piscar Já Era” by Sorrizo Ronaldo, when Stingy claimed the music video's notorious“flashing lights” and Sorrizo Ronaldo's bright smile.
      • Rips of Cave Story, when Stingy claimed a floating island and caves.
      • “The Time is Now” by John Cena, when Stingy claimed all that he can’t see.
      • “Man’s Not Hot” by Big Shaq, because Stingy refuses to take his jacket off when asked to, claiming the jacket’s his.
      • Rips of Nintendo 3DS games, when Stingy claimed the titular handheld.
      • D Se Dab, when Stingy claimed cool clothes, attitude, and new hand moves.

    Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
    #33894: Mar 13th 2025 at 10:25:06 AM

    [up] @jahman wrote: The rival band Jesus

    If you use a name like "Jesus" without any explanation, most readers are going to assume you're talking about "the" Jesus.

    In this case, you should include the phrase "rival band" in front of "Jesus" to make it clear.

    Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
    #33895: Mar 13th 2025 at 11:33:49 AM

    [up] @Player 8950

         Corrections 

    Another variant <- no comma is when the named star is a colony, with species originated and developed elsewhere. <- period Then, a combination of sufficiently advanced technologies and sufficiently stubborn settlers allowed aliens to settle where they shouldn't normally be. <- period Therefore, if aliens claim to originate from that system, then they only mean it as "where I and my crew members were born" sense, not as "my entire species home world" sense (e.g. John the Yankee is born in the USA - but Humanity As The Whole originates from Africa, <- comma or Bob the Reptiloid is born in the Orion System, <- comma but his species originate from Planet Nibiru).]

    ^ Split up a run-on sentence connected by semi-colon splices.

    Therefore, we will ask the question of: "Do only you and your crew members specifically originate from [star name], or is it the origin solar system of your species?".

    ^ A star can't be an "origin world" unless the creatures live on it.

    E.g. in the "keep firing everything we got at that thing <- no comma until it's destroyed" task. <- delete extra period

    ...metaphorically speaking, a giant powder keg waiting for a spark.

    ...one such scenario has the Ukrainian Special Military Operation escalating out of control, with European Union countries getting dragged in <- no comma and Russia calling in allies and using more desperate measures to compensate for the sudden increase in enemy numbers. At the very least, the Russian army ends up conquering Europe with tanks; at most, full-on World War III starts and nukes start flying left and right.

    "Fluffy Ponies" and other Biotoys start dwindling in numbers <- no comma as bio-labs switch to producing Super Soldiers, Bio Weapons and other profitable things needed to win the war. Meanwhile, as mass mobilization continues, Fluffy Ponies aren't exempt either (if the mentally disabled can end up being drafted, then Biotoys can too). <- period Their brains are loaded into either brain jars or cybernetic bodies, they get modified for increased aggression and intellect, all sorts of war and combat knowledge gets loaded into their minds, <- comma and they end up being either vehicle crew members <- no comma or cyborg soldiers - basically, turning into competent, if childish and stupid, soldiers. At this point, differences in Fluffy Ponies species finally start to appear, <- comma such as Pegasi being turned into Jet Pack troopers or aircraft crew delete dash and...

    And, There would be new Super-Soldier types from Fluffy Pony's Hasbro. Behold the "Stormmare"/"Warmare" (or something equally intimidating): it has the strength and agility of dogs; the dexterity and grace of cats; horns tougher than those of goats; wings actually capable of flight; the endurance of horses; fast-breeding, incredibly speed and ability to burrow from rabbits; intellect slightly superior to that of normal humans; the posture and size of Space Marines; the ferocity of Khorne Berserkers; and military knowledge at the very least equivalent to that of a soldier who participated in eighty years of non-stop wars <- no comma and graduated from every single military academy. Long story short, "Warmares" transcend typical NATO soldiers to same degree, who in turn transcend Fluffy Ponies. <- period These "Warmares" are the Space Marines of NATO, and will either put a decisive end to war <- no comma or allow the European contingent to survive for as long as possible. Their enemy counterparts are even more heavily augmented and trained Russian Warbear Spetsnaz, which are even more powerful than Warmares.

    Muscle-powered weapons and non-mechanized armor work regardless of what your TL is. For example, if a TL 0 caveman/barbarian stumbled upon a Ultra-Tech hyperdense melee weapon/tool, he could use it. <- period Similarly, if he stumbled upon vehicle/machinery/building wreckage, he could turn hyperdense scrap into crude melee weapons (e.g. shiv, spear, axe, etc) and armor. <- period Likewise, if such a caveman/barbarian stumbled onto a High-Tech bullet-proof vest or Ultra-Tech tactical suit, he could wear it. Even a low-sapient (e.g. comparable to chimpanzee) could take a sharp piece of armature and stab someone with it, as long as they're capable of utilizing pointy sticks. On the other half, TL 12^ man is still capable of stabbing someone with a pointy stick <- no comma if he needs to.

    Yes, i did find the book what stats strategic-scale nukes - and i scaled their power up and down. But, i won't show it to you - due to your pathological copyrightofilia - until you make a promise, what you will never ever ban anyone for sharing copyrighted materials.

    ^ I have twice before asked you if comments like these are directed toward me or not, and you decided not to answer me.

    ^ Since this most recent text is clearly directed either towards me or the TV Tropes moderators and violates TV Tropes Customs rule #1, "Don't be a dick", I will not be correcting any more of your posts.

    Edited by Arivne on Mar 13th 2025 at 1:14:15 AM

    Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
    #33896: Mar 13th 2025 at 12:08:44 PM

    [up] @K Boult

    Sidney and Gale are only mentioned once, <- comma when...

    ...to how Amber attacked her in the original timeline...

    ...stabbed by Amber, Wes is killed by Richie, <- comma who slits his...

    But They can't go upstairs because Tara's leg...

    Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
    #33897: Mar 13th 2025 at 12:09:37 PM

    [up] @ssbob90

    I can't find any English problems in that example.

    Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
    #33898: Mar 13th 2025 at 12:17:10 PM

    [up] @Ayumi-chan

    ...(including dyed hair and lack of make-up)...

    ^ Can also use "makeup".

    ...her being a Deadpan Snarker and her enjoying fighting criminals).

    By the author's own admission, the fic avoids being...

    Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
    #33899: Mar 13th 2025 at 12:27:39 PM

    [up] @Duy 03

    In the advent of Season 9, <- comma seeing Stingy from Lazy Town as the new channel host. <- period Many rips under him are based on his “Mine Song”, much of which is labeled “MY version”.

    Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
    #33900: Mar 13th 2025 at 12:45:58 PM

    [up] @Alpinist

         Corrections 

    A proud Senate guard turned disgraced mercenary who works his way...

    Declining Promotion: He let his first partner...

    At different times he performs the roles of Senate bodyguard...

    Years later, he finally reunites with his family after abandoning the Empire.

    Reasonable Authority Figure: He has his prejudices, <- comma but...

    Sacrificial Lion: He debuts...by Vader for questioning whether...

    Refused by the Call: He is a Force-Sensitive, but...found out to be suitable.

    An Officer And A Gentleman: He is a an erect, polite...

    ^ An Officer And A Gentleman is now a green disambiguation page. Please choose one of the tropes on that page to replace the name.

    K'Kruhk remembers him as a hero from the Siege of Saluecami, <- comma but...

    He eventually stops delivering supplies to the hidden Jedi and they agree that he is likely dead for this to happen, <- comma but...

    High-Class Glass

    Done down to but not including Silas.


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