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This thread is for tropers who have trouble with English and would like some help with the crazy grammar of this crazy language.

Write down what you wish to edit on the wiki. If you have been suspended from editing, another troper might be kind enough to edit for you after your suggestions have been corrected.

The thread is for help and feedback on your own suggested edits.

If you want help correcting other people's edits (e.g., if you find a page which seems to have grammar problems but want a second opinion, or you don't feel able to fix it by yourself) then that's off-topic here, but we have a separate Grammar Police cleanup thread that can provide assistance.

Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM

Vylosipe27 from Russia Since: May, 2016
#2751: May 24th 2016 at 11:12:31 AM

[up] Thank you very much for your time and editions! I need to work hard at my English by all accounts. My vocabulary is pour and my grammar need more attention...I think I should make short posts and use more simple sentences. I have one more question though. What is correct, "Dark They Were, And Golden-Eyed" or Dark They Were, And Golden-Eyed (italic)? Thank you for your help smile

edited 24th May '16 11:28:17 AM by Vylosipe27

war877 Grr... <3 from Untamed Wilds Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#2752: May 24th 2016 at 3:00:05 PM

Dark They Were, And Golden-Eyed Is better.

Strafe2409 Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#2753: May 24th 2016 at 11:24:36 PM

Adding some new tropes for RWBY: Ghost of Remnant.

  • Drill Sergeant Nasty: Despite he's become Cody's adoptive older brother, Axel indulges his former stoic and ruthless persona in order to make Cody stronger and being on par with Alain. Considering he's a former Ganma commander, it is no surprise he's become relentless but demanding combat teacher for his younger brother. It's no suprise that both Team RWBY and Team JNPR (particularly from Jaune, Nora and Ren) scared with his presence, not helped that Axel dons his old uniform that similar to Alain.
  • Training from Hell: In order to become stronger and being on par with Alain, Cody is more than willing to endure Axel's gruesome methods of training, as Axel saw his determination on his eyes. Yang, whom volunteer herself as Cody's training partner, even admits that her training with Qrow is like a child's play when compared to Axel's.

For the trope Massive Multiplayer Crossover of the same page.

  • Kamen Rider Kiva: Another original character named Vlad Maxwell appears in front of Axel when he was overwhelmed by a group of Rat Fangires. He was cold and cynical towards Axel at first, but after listening Axel's story, he takes his interest to him and decides to work together to rescue Weiss.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#2754: May 25th 2016 at 4:34:34 AM

King of souls' post from page 110

These are Zero Context Examples. They need more information about how they fit the trope.

For example, what does The Visionary do that makes him an Arch-Enemy?

edited 25th May '16 4:35:37 AM by Arivne

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#2755: May 25th 2016 at 4:52:59 AM

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Drill Sergeant Nasty: Despite he's become Cody's adoptive older brother, Axel indulges his former stoic and ruthless persona in order to make Cody stronger and being on par with Alain. Considering he's a former Ganma commander, it is no surprise he's become relentless but demanding combat teacher for his younger brother. It's no suprise that both Team RWBY and Team JNPR (particularly from Jaune, Nora and Ren) scared with his presence, not helped that Axel dons his old uniform that similar to Alain.

  • Despite he's become -> Despite becoming
  • indulges -> Not the correct word. "returns to" would work.
  • make Cody stronger and being on par -> make Cody stronger and more on par
  • he's become relentless -> he becomes a relentless
  • suprise -> surprise
  • particularly from Jaune, Nora and Ren -> particularly Jaune, Nora and Ren
  • scared with his presence -> are scared by his presence
  • not helped that -> and it doesn't help that
  • that similar to Alain -> that is similar to Alain's.

  • Training from Hell: In order to become stronger and being on par with Alain, Cody is more than willing to endure Axel's gruesome methods of training, as Axel saw his determination on his eyes. Yang, whom volunteer herself as Cody's training partner, even admits that her training with Qrow is like a child's play when compared to Axel's.

  • and being on par with Alain -> and more on par with Alain
  • as Axel saw his determination on his eyes -> Is this necessary? It doesn't seem to be part of the trope.
  • Yang, whom volunteer -> Yang, who volunteers
  • is like a child's play -> is like child's play

  • Kamen Rider Kiva: Another original character named Vlad Maxwell appears in front of Axel when he was overwhelmed by a group of Rat Fangires. He was cold and cynical towards Axel at first, but after listening Axel's story, he takes his interest to him and decides to work together to rescue Weiss.

  • he was overwhelmed -> he is overwhelmed (How to Write an Example - Write in Present Tense)
  • He was cold and cynical -> He is cold and cynical
  • listening Axel's story -> listening to Axel's story
  • he takes his interest to him -> he takes an interest in him
  • decides to work together to rescue Weiss.
    • -> decides to work with him to rescue Weiss.
    • -> decides they should work together to rescue Weiss.

edited 26th May '16 5:30:54 AM by Arivne

Vylosipe27 from Russia Since: May, 2016
#2756: May 26th 2016 at 2:08:39 AM

I apologize for a long silence sad. I have corrected my posts with the help of your comments. Thank you!

war877 Grr... <3 from Untamed Wilds Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Kingofsouls Kingofsouls from EVERYWHERE Since: Jun, 2010
Kingofsouls
#2758: May 26th 2016 at 11:32:13 AM

Arvine's post above

For Arch-Enemy, Citizen Hammer and Citizen Anvil are sent on a mission to bring Visionary (whom is female by the way) to their boss Citizen Dawn, whether Visionary wants to or not. Naturally Visionary doesn't want to go to a known super villain.

In Sentinels the nemeses are more of a game mechanic than story sometimes. Some nemesis pairs like Legacy and Baron Blade are pretty well developed (Baron Blade has a vendetta against the Parsons family for killing his dad) while others are...more of a convince (such as Chrono-Ranger and Plauge Rat. Chrono-Ranger hates rats because a different mutant rat hate his hand. That is why they are mortal enemies.)

As for Weapon Of Choice, the Hammer and Shield is Citizen Hammer's weapon of choice for battle. It is a hammer and shield. He uses the hammer to hit things and the shield to protect his partner and himself. Not really sure who to explain it more than that.

Would these work?

  • Arch-Enemy: The Visionary. Citizens Hammer and Anvil are on a mission to find subjects from Project Cocoon, like Visionary, and bring them to Citizen Dawn whether they want to or not.
  • Weapon Of Choice: Citizen Anvil wields a hammer and a shield. The Hammer and Shield card in game protects Anvil and lets him deal damage.

edited 26th May '16 11:33:02 AM by Kingofsouls

I am a figment of your imagination
starkitty93 from Texas Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#2759: May 28th 2016 at 7:47:24 PM

For the Ron the Death Eater page in the Fanwork examples section under the Video Games folder

  • Sonic the Hedgehog:
    • Traitor's Blood does this to Tails. In the fic, he's transformed from an Adorably Precocious Kid Sidekick to an Ax-Crazy psychopath who murders Sonic in cold blood in response to Sonic "never respecting him", then proceeds to go do the same to Amy.
    • Severe Misery turns Sally Acorn, Bunnie Rabbot, Nicole Lynx, and Fiona Fox into cruel Alpha Bitches who run a shady sorority that engages in hazing rituals (one of the victims being the author's Self-Insert) of very Draconian nature. The fic ends with the four girls being chased by a demonic black dog that causes them to get into a deadly car crash. It is then revealed that the self insert character was disguised as a new victim and had sent the demon dog after them as revenge for the last ritual inflicted upon her; no one ever finds out who killed them so the story ends with her getting away scot free. As bad as the author tried to make Sally, Bunnie, Nicole, and Fiona, the self insert evidently ended up looking 10 times worse.

edited 29th May '16 11:04:43 PM by starkitty93

Just another animation junkie
war877 Grr... <3 from Untamed Wilds Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#2760: May 29th 2016 at 2:34:05 AM

[up] Hello starkitty.

Your examples have no errors. I think you should ask to get unsuspended.

However, there are problems with the submission:

Also, you can include external links, but please include a link to the wiki article for the fic in question as well, even if it doesn't have one yet.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#2761: May 29th 2016 at 4:09:21 AM

[up][up] @starkitty93

hazing rituals(one of the victims -> hazing rituals (one of the victims

ConservativePip Since: Feb, 2015
#2762: May 29th 2016 at 6:59:11 AM

For Blood Knight. Video Games under Civilization

Civilization

  • In Civ V, India is surprisingly Blood Knight-like as it is more nuke happy than even the Aztecs.

for SpitShake. WesternAnimation under My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic.

In a season 5 episode the leaders of the Hooffields and Mccolts do this to signify the end of a long running feud.

Can someone make my edits please?

edited 29th May '16 6:59:43 AM by ConservativePip

war877 Grr... <3 from Untamed Wilds Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#2763: May 29th 2016 at 7:30:39 AM

Examples should be crosswicked. I'll add the MLP example to both pages because I am confident that actually happened. (EDIT: nvm, already crosswicked.)

I'd be more comfortable if the text for both pages was provided if someone asks to for me to post.

edited 29th May '16 7:41:30 AM by war877

starkitty93 from Texas Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#2764: May 29th 2016 at 10:10:01 AM

@war877

Thank you for your comments on my post. I would love to ask to be unsuspended but I tried that once however it didn't work.

Just another animation junkie
war877 Grr... <3 from Untamed Wilds Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#2765: May 29th 2016 at 10:16:21 AM

[up]There is a permissible error rate, and you are either close to it or passing it. The better your grammar, the better your chance of being unsuspended.

starkitty93 from Texas Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#2766: May 29th 2016 at 9:07:35 PM

How do I Italicize a work title? I've tried several ways but none of them work.

Just another animation junkie
Serac she/her (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
she/her
#2767: May 29th 2016 at 9:41:53 PM

Put ''two apostrophes'' around the text you want to italicize. See Text Formatting Rules for more information about wiki markup.

starkitty93 from Texas Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#2768: May 29th 2016 at 10:56:47 PM

thank you

edited 29th May '16 11:03:09 PM by starkitty93

Just another animation junkie
war877 Grr... <3 from Untamed Wilds Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#2769: May 29th 2016 at 11:03:39 PM

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edited 29th May '16 11:06:08 PM by war877

andrew369 Since: Apr, 2012
#2770: May 31st 2016 at 11:20:01 PM

Hi all. I wish to check if this is correct before I ask someone to help me post this. Thanks in advance:

For the funny section of Megadimension Neptunia VII :

  • Anytime Uzume accidentally dips into her Orange Heart personality is guaranteed to be hilarious, especially her really poor attempts at covering it up after realizing what she was doing. Here's one fine example when Uzume, Neptune and Nepgear are looking for Umio:
    Uzume: You never know. A mysterious bystander might have been accompanying Umio when he was attacked. Maybe they both escaped! (goes into daydreaming mode) Then, while they're wandering around looking for us, we'll just happened to run into them. (acts out of character by acting cutesy) We'll be totally surprised at the coincidence, and, like, both Uzume and her new pal totally won't be able to believe it, ya know? Then just like that they'll lead us to where Umio is, and we'll, like, beat up the meany monster that were bullying Umio! Umi's saved, and we'll find the share crystal, and we'll be totally super lucky like that!
    Neptune and Nepgear: (shocked) Uhhhhhh...
    Uzume: (realizes her mistake) Oh! (clear her throat and revert back to normal) So, yeah, there's a small chance someone will appear to show us the way, right?
    Neptune: Uh, Uzume, heh... sorry, but what in the world was that thing you just transform into?
    Neptune: No, no, no. I, uh, most definitely was not! You just transformed into some kind of valley girl from the 90's or something!
    Nepgear: You were referring to yourself as "Uzume" in the third person, too!

And for the funny section of Hyperdimension Neptunia ReBirth 1 :

  • The entire Lowee CPU Q&A Quiz. In order to tell who is the real Blanc, the group decides to ask both of them questions that only the real one can answer. However these questions are actually about Blanc's embarrassing secrets, which involves her measurements and her secretly written novels. The real Blanc can't answer them because everyone in Lowee is listening, while the fake one easily reveals and answers them correctly. After the third question, Blanc snaps and lets out multiple swear words, knowing that everyone in Lowee knows of her secrets. Much to both Blancs' surprise, the people of Lowee confirm that the vulgar Blanc is the real one since they know her personal traits (despite the fake Blanc's bad attempts to say vulgar words).

edited 7th Jun '16 6:41:58 PM by andrew369

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#2771: Jun 1st 2016 at 4:44:17 AM

[up]

I have a question: is the dialogue taken directly from the game?

I ask because it has English errors that an officially translated work should not have.

  • we'll just happened to run into them -> happen
  • meany monster that were bullying Umio -> was bullying
  • clear her throat and revert back to normal -> clears, reverts
  • you just transform into? -> transformed
  • I've most defintely was not! -> I most definitely was not!

  • The real Blanc can't answer it -> them
  • multiple vulgarity -> multiple swear
  • vulgarity Blanc -> vulgar Blanc

edited 2nd Jun '16 7:19:55 AM by Arivne

andrewwong36 Since: Nov, 2011
#2772: Jun 1st 2016 at 7:47:11 AM

[up]

The dialogue is taken directly from the game since this is an example to Uzume's 'moment'

war877 Grr... <3 from Untamed Wilds Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#2773: Jun 1st 2016 at 8:33:59 AM

I believe the correct way to write badly translated text in a quote is without fixing the errors in it. You can add [sic] if you want.

But just to clarify, you mean the English translation of the game, and not the original version of the game?

edited 1st Jun '16 8:35:24 AM by war877

andrewwong36 Since: Nov, 2011
#2774: Jun 1st 2016 at 4:02:42 PM

[up]

Yes. It's the English translation. A.k.a English dub. There is a video clip of the one's I mention too.

andrew369 Since: Apr, 2012

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