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johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#17926: Nov 30th 2012 at 4:51:32 PM

Link doesn't seem to go anywhere.

If you're suggesting that neither of Tyrion's parents was a Lannister, why would the Lannister tendency towards twin-births have anything to do with anything? Oh, apparently Joanna was a Lannister in her own right.

I thought it was his head that was large when he was born, rather than his whole body, which would presumably be a result of his disproportionate body shape.

edited 30th Nov '12 4:53:46 PM by johnnye

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#17927: Nov 30th 2012 at 5:00:23 PM

[up][up]Given that AFFC made sure to point out that Tyrion takes strongly after Tywin, I find suggestions otherwise to be distasteful.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#17929: Nov 30th 2012 at 5:06:39 PM

I don't believe the theory that he's not his father I was just pointing that fact out. Tywin hates Tyrion enough that he'd be looking for any excuse he could find to kick him out. Since he didn't do that I think it's safe to assume he's his son.

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#17930: Nov 30th 2012 at 5:08:38 PM

So, twins that are not identical result from eggs conceived by different sperm. Thus, it is possible for two non-identical twins to have different fathers.

If Joanna's second pair of twins were fathered by two different men, and Tyrion absorbed his non-identical twin from another father, it is therefore, in a way, possible for Tyrion to be the son of both Aerys and Tywin, in a weird, convoluted sort of way.

[up] Tywin says that men's laws force him to keep Tyrion because he (Tywin) cannot prove that he (Tyrion) is not his (Tywin's) son. I think the burden of proof is "legitimate until proven otherwise".

edited 30th Nov '12 5:10:28 PM by ATC

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Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#17931: Nov 30th 2012 at 5:11:32 PM

Ooh. That's… interestingly twisted.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#17932: Nov 30th 2012 at 5:11:37 PM

[up][up]That is absurdly convoluted. I doubt Martin would pull a twist like that. We already had one (or two) fake outs with this stuff. Anymore would be excessive.

edited 30th Nov '12 5:12:02 PM by Kostya

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#17933: Nov 30th 2012 at 5:34:45 PM

Oh, also, remember in ADWD, his dream where he had two heads? Like he's some sort of strange conjoined twin that shares a body?

Also, he dreamed of fire, and of dragons. He dreamed about burning Tywin and Cersei to death. When he was small, he was obsessed with dragons and wanted one for himself. But he is also Tywin's true son much more than Jaime is.

It would fit with the Lannister Twin Proclivity, Tyrion being Tywin's true son but Tywin considers him to be not his, the Lannister blond hair so blond it's almost Targaryen white, the mismatched eyes, the deformation (Lannisters have good genes, being tall and stout, while many Targs are crazy and deformed), Aerys lusting after Joanna, and Tyrion abandoning one of his families (Lannister) to join another (Targaryen), and the dream where he has two heads.

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johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#17935: Nov 30th 2012 at 5:40:49 PM

wild mass guessTyrion is triplets. One of them is a Targaryen, one of them is a Blackfyre, and one of them isa Time Lordwild mass guess

Troliolio To whatever end from Texas Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
To whatever end
#17936: Nov 30th 2012 at 5:51:21 PM

Dangit, my head's about to explode. This level of twistiness is just beyond me.

johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#17937: Nov 30th 2012 at 6:02:10 PM

wild mass guessThe Time Lord is also a Faceless Man and Benjen Starkwild mass guess

majoraoftime (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#17938: Nov 30th 2012 at 6:18:19 PM

wild mass guessThe PWWP/AA/SWMTW is Jesus.wild mass guess Turns out Gurm was an evangelist all along. Surprise!

edited 30th Nov '12 6:19:15 PM by majoraoftime

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#17939: Nov 30th 2012 at 9:59:34 PM

To expand upon my theory:

No, the people who seem to fulfill the prophecy won't have nothing to do with saving things. However, any significance to it will be merely ascribed by the characters. Because of this, there will be no flaming sword, and none of them will be completely instrumental to defeating the Others, at least no more so than those who don't fulfill the requirements. The prophecy will turn out to have no actual meaning beyond what different characters ascribe to it, and at least some realize this fact. That being said, the prophecy will be instrumental in uniting the people against the Others. In a sense, the prophecy itself will be the Azor Ahai who defeats the Others.

johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#17940: Dec 1st 2012 at 4:35:34 AM

[up]Yeah, that seems pretty likely.

edited 1st Dec '12 4:36:23 AM by johnnye

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#17941: Dec 1st 2012 at 4:59:32 AM

I'd forgotten how annoying Sansa was during Game of Thrones. Watching the show brings back unfond memories.

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#17942: Dec 1st 2012 at 3:44:50 PM

Oh, apparently There's a name for this sort of thing.

The reason why Arya stinks at needlework: She was made to sew with her right hand. She holds Needle the sword with her left hand.

edited 1st Dec '12 4:10:45 PM by ATC

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johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#17943: Dec 1st 2012 at 5:39:08 PM

You don't want to start putting that kind of thing in fantasy stories though, you're going to confuse people.

"Tremble, Bellerophon, before the mighty Chimera!"
"Uh, no offence, but what the fuck are you? I was expecting snakes, lion's head, fire-breathing..."
"Oh! Oh, no, I'm just a dude with a freaky genetic condition. But if I kill you, no forensics team will ever be able to pin it on me, MWAHAHAHAAA!"

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#17945: Dec 2nd 2012 at 12:36:48 AM

Did you know that all mothers are chimeras? Specifically, they have cells from their children in their brains.

Troliolio To whatever end from Texas Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
To whatever end
#17946: Dec 2nd 2012 at 5:12:33 PM

[up][up][up] You have won an [awesome] badge, good sir. [lol]

[up] ...huh. That really does put an interesting spin on things.

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#17947: Dec 3rd 2012 at 4:53:49 PM

Conjecture: ASOIAF would be much better if it was written by somebody other than GRRM.

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majoraoftime (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#17948: Dec 3rd 2012 at 4:55:05 PM

ASOIAF, as written by Brandon Sanderson. Mistborn, as written by Gurm.

LMage Since: May, 2011
#17949: Dec 3rd 2012 at 5:08:17 PM

[up]

God no. That man has already come close to ruining one of my favorite series of all time, I want him no where near these books.

edited 3rd Dec '12 5:08:34 PM by LMage

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#17950: Dec 3rd 2012 at 5:10:41 PM

Yeah, L Mage, that would be terrible if GRRM got to write Mistborn. I don't want GRRM anywhere near Mistborn.

edited 3rd Dec '12 5:12:10 PM by ATC

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