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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#301: Jul 25th 2013 at 7:44:17 PM

You know I still wonder what would of happened had the rest of the toyline been included in the BW show.

It would've been shit. What made BW good is the small cast.

WorldTurtle Since: Jan, 2011
#302: Jul 25th 2013 at 8:36:30 PM

This is true, but I look at all those toy only characters and can't help but think what a waste sometimes.

edited 25th Jul '13 8:42:12 PM by WorldTurtle

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#303: Jul 25th 2013 at 8:44:17 PM

I'd have liked to see how the Beast Warriors would've defeated Unicron. They held their own against the Vok, at least. It's probably not until Beast Machines that if the two sides worked together, they could beat it in a fight, or at least turn it away. However, can anyone really beat Unicron without the Autobot Matrix of Plot Convenience?

[up]Yeah, the show we got was of course great, but every now and then I think "Man, it would've been nice to see (non-transmetal) Cybershark..." He was like the only shark anything I like. I also liked B'Boom's design. And Transquito. Yeah, I said it. What of it? Hmm... who else?

edited 25th Jul '13 8:50:31 PM by wanderlustwarrior

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WorldTurtle Since: Jan, 2011
#304: Jul 25th 2013 at 8:49:23 PM

The Matrix of which is conveniently stashed in the Ark...

I hated Transmetal Cybershark every time I tried to transform him or Sky-Byte to bot mode I snap off his stupid shoulder pads and can NEVER. GET. THEM. BACK. ON! I even bought a second Sky-Byte and it still happen!

Also I hate the Transmetals in general for their stupid metal flaking habit, Dinobot II practically shed purple flakes everywhere the moment he came out of the box.

BTW is it just me or does TM Waspy's head remind anyone else of Kamen Rider?

edited 25th Jul '13 8:57:36 PM by WorldTurtle

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#305: Jul 25th 2013 at 8:52:31 PM

Right, behind Prime's identical spark container.

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#306: Jul 26th 2013 at 3:57:16 AM

I'd have liked to see how the Beast Warriors would've defeated Unicron.

It's again called Beast Wars II / Neo.

We don't talk of it. It sucked.

akumashogun Since: Aug, 2009
#307: Jul 26th 2013 at 8:50:48 AM

[up]But it did give us some unique beast modes, a giraffe, a horse, a penguin. I still love my Big Convoy.

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#308: Jul 26th 2013 at 9:12:23 AM

I don't give a crap what anyone else thinks, that giraffe toy looks amazing.

Big Convoy and Break the penguin, however, are terrible shellformers.

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CobraPrime Sharknado Warning from Canada Since: Dec, 1969 Relationship Status: Robosexual
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#309: Jul 26th 2013 at 10:24:44 AM

Longrack is awesome.

Most of BW 2 were re-releases. Though Galvatron and Lioconvoy were good.

But most of the BW Neo was terrible shellformers. Or toys that are a pain in the butt to transform. The Snake, Magmatron and Longrack are the few good ones.

*curls into fetal position thinking of transforming Mach Kick*

edited 26th Jul '13 10:28:15 AM by CobraPrime

WorldTurtle Since: Jan, 2011
#310: Jul 26th 2013 at 1:46:35 PM

Just saying a repainted Cohrada (The Snake) with a retooled head is how I imagine what a non-fuzor Quickstrike would look like. Other then being a Scorponok repaint that used the mutant head of course.

edited 26th Jul '13 1:47:00 PM by WorldTurtle

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#311: Jul 27th 2013 at 10:06:04 AM

Quickstrike isn't a scorponok repaint.

The scorponok toy is like 2 time bigger (It was Mega / Voyager size, Quickstrike is a basic size figure) and with a totally different transformation. It has claws for hands while QS has claws for feet. Seriously, how do you look at this and declare it the same mold as this

Seriously, they aren't even close. It's like saying G1 Jetfire is a Starscream repaint. You never noticed the like, million of differences in the way they are built? And scorponok's mutant head looks nothing like Quickstrike.

edited 27th Jul '13 10:10:22 AM by Ghilz

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#312: Jul 27th 2013 at 10:24:41 AM

You completely misinterpreted my post or perhaps I just wasn't clear enough. Also I did say what a Non-Fuzor Quickstrike would have looked like.

What I meant is if his pod's DNA Scanner hadn't been damaged. He'd either be a cobra or a scorpion and given the show's (at least initial) laziness when it came to creating character models (Tigatron-Cheetor Repaint was meant to be Wolfang) as well as toy-to-show accuracy being rather inaccurate at best. Quickstrike would be a Scorponok repaint (who used the Mutant Head).

Also "Height" was pretty much ignored in regards to most of the toys when they brought the character on the show. Scorponok went from being one of the tallest toys to one of the shortest characters (heck the height chart on one of the DVD's has him as the smallest among the original five Predacons (he was shorter then Waspinator), with the Basic size Terrorsaur being second only to Megatron in height.

BA didn't even have a toy what she had was Tarantulas in drag.

Rattrap, Inferno, and Megatron were about right, but OP was shorter then DB and IIRC Rhinox. Tigatron was a bit taller then Cheetor as well-possibly because a Tiger is bigger then a Cheetah.

edited 27th Jul '13 10:37:37 AM by WorldTurtle

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#313: Jul 27th 2013 at 10:35:15 AM

You completely misinterpreted my post.

Coz you used the word repaint, which has a specific definition in the fandom.

It's like if you call baseball basketball and its my fault for assuming you meant basketball :-P

as well as toy-show accuracy being rather inaccurate at best.

Actually beast wars was pretty accurate. Especially compared to G1 or Beast Machines.

Also "Height" was pretty much ignored in regards to most of the toys when they brought the character on the show. Scorponok went from being one of the tallest toys to one of the shortest characters (heck the height chart on one of the DVD's has him as the smallest among the original five Predacons (he was shorter then Waspinator), with the Basic size Terrorsaur being second only to Megatron in height.

Again, I was talking about toys because you used a term "Repaint" that applies to toys specifically. Scorponok's toy is mega size. QS' isn't.

Lastly your entire point is moot. Cohrada was made AFTER Quickstrike and by a company that was not involved in the making of the original show, so even IF they decided to not make him a fuzor, it wouldn't use Cohrada's mold since it didn't exist yet. So no, Cohrada could not have been Quickstrike anymore than Prime Predaking could've been TM 2 Megatron.

edited 27th Jul '13 10:43:51 AM by Ghilz

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#314: Jul 27th 2013 at 10:43:37 AM

There aren't a lot of robot modes out there that are lamer/less useful than Quickstrike's.

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#315: Jul 27th 2013 at 10:51:55 AM

Oh, there are. They just tend to stay in toy form and out of the show.

Meet G1 Ironhide (Toy form)

TM2 Scourge

BM Buzzsaw

edited 27th Jul '13 10:52:15 AM by Ghilz

WorldTurtle Since: Jan, 2011
#316: Jul 27th 2013 at 10:59:59 AM

Coz you used the word repaint, which has a specific definition in the fandom. It's like if you call baseball basketball and its my fault for assuming you meant basketball :-P

I understand, I suppose I should of fully elaborated what I meant?

Actually beast wars was pretty accurate. Especially compared to G1 or Beast Machines.

In comparison to G1 and BM I agree with that (Also later BW toys were much better about it), however I stand by the fact BA's toy was basically Tarantulas in drag.

I mean I'm totally cool with the adjustments the BW Show Staff did when bringing the characters onto the show. Especially with the detail they added to the faces, it really helped to bring the characters to life.

Lastly your entire point is moot. Cohrada was made AFTER Quickstrike and by a company that was not involved in the making of the original show, so even IF they decided to not make him a fuzor, it wouldn't use Cohrada's mold since it didn't exist yet. So no, Cohrada could not have been Quickstrike anymore than Prime Predaking could've been TM 2 Megatron.

I see your point here, but I meant the whole idea was just a suggestion of what a Non-Fuzor QS might look like. The time of when Cohrada was made has nothing to do with that. It was a "You know I could see Quickstrike looking like Cohrada if he hadn't been a Fuzor" thought.

edited 27th Jul '13 11:25:11 AM by WorldTurtle

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#317: Jul 27th 2013 at 11:03:02 AM

Diaclone toys don't count.

And if not for the exposed... spring? I prefer both of those to Quickstrike. Transmetal Driver made T2's were never supposed to look gorgeous, and they just look less suck.

edited 27th Jul '13 11:06:50 AM by wanderlustwarrior

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#318: Jul 27th 2013 at 11:54:37 AM

Funny enough considering the conversation we had a few pages ago, I came across Generations Springer and did an impulse buy. Love the figure, it is basically the Springer triple-changer everyone has ever wanted. The only slight reservation I have about the figure is that the shoulder pieces don't ever really lock into the other modes and are just kind of loose panels. Not THAT loose, but just a small note on an otherwise fantastic figure.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#319: Jul 27th 2013 at 2:57:22 PM

Must be a problem with yours, mine they tab in so tightly, it's hard to slide them out for that IDW look.

And if you like Springer, get Sandstorm when he comes out in your area. He's somehow even better.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#320: Jul 27th 2013 at 4:22:34 PM

I'm talking about the entire shoulder piece and not just the sliding yellow panels. They kind of just fold into the other modes instead of actually locking in, which isn't a big problem because it is still sturdy and looks good but I spent a good 5 minutes trying to figure out where it tabs in before figuring out that it doesn't.

Marston Since: Sep, 2011
#321: Jul 27th 2013 at 5:08:56 PM

So I finally got around to watching the first two seasons of Transformers Prime on Netflix. I think it's a pretty good show, especially since it's the first time where I didn't hate the human characters in a Transformers series. Now I just need to wait for the 3rd season to come to Netflix, particularly since I've heard that it just ended last night.

Also, there's something odd I noticed about Beast Wars: The show had a tendency to kill off two characters at the same time. It's not a big deal, it's just a odd pattern I noticed. Examples include:

1:Scorpanock and Terrorsaur.

2:Tigertron and Airazor {Okay, so technichlly they didn't actually die untill Tigerhawk was killed, but still}.

3:Depth Charge and Rampage {Although at least this one was a really badass moment for Depth Charge}

4:Inferno and Quickstrike.

edited 27th Jul '13 5:54:11 PM by Marston

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#322: Jul 27th 2013 at 5:15:54 PM

Dinobot and a bit of Rattrap.

I never thought to check Netflix for Prime. That and Breaking Bad are at the top of my to watch list.

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#323: Jul 27th 2013 at 10:54:21 PM

[up][up]They connect more fully on Sandstorm

As I said, if you see him, get him, even if you avoid repaints. I'd figure 60% to 75% of Sandstorm's part are ether remolded slighlty with different detailing, or entirely new, when compared to Springer.

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#324: Jul 29th 2013 at 10:44:54 AM

There aren't a lot of robot modes out there that are lamer/less useful than Quickstrike's.

Considering BM Buzzsaw has no functioning hands (At least Quickstrike can use his beast more legs as fingers) and a butt of a hand....

But here, meet Ejector.

Or Dickbot the blender guy

edited 29th Jul '13 11:00:31 AM by CobraPrime

WorldTurtle Since: Jan, 2011
#325: Jul 29th 2013 at 11:33:22 AM

Technically Quickstrike does have "hands" they are just heavily warped into a cobra head sock puppet and eight very long fingers. He is at least able to play cards with them. I mean they aren't any worse then Scorponok, Tarantulas, and BA whose claw hands left them only with two fingers on each hand. And oddly these three were the tech savvy members of the Preds, you'd think the guys who design/build things would need more fingers for such detailed work.

edited 29th Jul '13 11:38:02 AM by WorldTurtle


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