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Sep 19th 2019 at 7:41:15 PM

[up][up]Heh, fair. I would kinda like to see that design compromise too.

[up]Also fair. I do like Bee's slimmer design in Cyberverse, but don't really like the G1-style horns. They just seem like an artifact of G1.

I think Cyberverse maybe leans a bit too heavily toward G1, though I suppose it technically leans more toward Animated, since that one had a lot of G1 design throwbacks. Though I also liked that Animated loved to reference stuff from all corners of the Transformers verse, even the movies (which I think Derrick Wyatt, the art director, admitted to disliking). And to Cyberverse's credit, it's laying off a bit on the G1 stuff, given Cheetor's presence, and the use of Lockdown and Lugnut Clobber.

Scale stuff in Transformers always makes me laugh, and I blame the Transformers Wiki for that.

EDIT: How do I keep awkwardly top-paging? XD

Edited by Etheru on Sep 19th 2019 at 7:41:43 AM

slimcoder Insane Religious Murderbot
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Sep 19th 2019 at 7:46:30 PM

I admit I would like seeing more use of some of the movie designs.

Like Bonecrusher's hate everything personality & stinger tail or Sideswipe's silver sleek dual armblades on wheels look.

Or Hell some of the Japanese Beast Wars stuff. Cause Magmatron being a Goddamn triple-splitter is fucking amazing.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 19th 2019 at 7:47:59 AM

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Sep 19th 2019 at 7:48:07 PM

[up]I would love to see Bonecrusher as a big guy on the Decepticon team who none of his teammates like because he's constantly grousing about something he hates.

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Sep 19th 2019 at 7:48:11 PM

Wheelfeet are kinda impractical for toys though.

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Sep 19th 2019 at 7:52:52 PM

I think Cyberverse Bumblebee's design is based more off a look he had in the original IDW comics for a while.

slimcoder Insane Religious Murderbot
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Sep 19th 2019 at 7:56:46 PM

[up][up][up] Yeah there's a potential goldmine of comedy there. He'd be the funny asshole.

[up][up] I'm sure the toy could have both regular feet & wheelie feet. Its almost 2020 after all, technology has advanced.

Hell there's also Big Convoy who breaks the mold of leader characters by apparently starting out as a lone wolf asshole who irritatingly has leadership thrust upon him. Its like if Animated Prowl was forced to be the leader of the Autobots.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 19th 2019 at 7:57:51 AM

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Shadao Surprised Satoshi
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Sep 19th 2019 at 8:05:18 PM

I want to see Blackout's design return. For the first "Bayformer" design, it's quite easy to tell how Blackout is able to transform and what he looks like even with vague memory. Helicopter rotors behind and folded like a cape, a hulking cockpit armed with cannons that acts as his chest, a secondary helicopter rotor blade as a buzzsaw, and an insect-like head.

It's a design that should be more used more often and it's full movie glory because trying to G1 the whole design just doesn't feel like Blackout.

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Sep 19th 2019 at 8:07:21 PM

I liked Animated's Blackout design for specifically adhering to movie's design in that show's artstyle.

I was disappointed when it turned out an episode where he blacks out Detroit was fake (because Wikipedia wasn't as strict about its editors yet).

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Sep 19th 2019 at 8:11:27 PM

If you check the TF wiki, the only incarnation of Blackout that is considered "Major" is movie-Blackout meaning his movie incarnation is when he finally made it big.

So yeah movie-Blackout has cemented itself as the definitive look for the bot. The fact Animated-Blackout is indeed directly based off his movie proves that if Blackout should ever appear again, its gotta be as a chopper with a rotor-blade cape.

Shame he hasn't made an appearance in the IDW comics.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 19th 2019 at 8:13:16 AM

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Sep 19th 2019 at 8:14:52 PM

He also launches Scorponok out of his butt.

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Sep 19th 2019 at 8:36:21 PM

Blackout did make an appearance in an IDW fall of cybertron comic, his body was similar to his movie incarnation but his head was more in line with the rest of the bots and cons from the series.

Sep 19th 2019 at 10:24:21 PM

I admit I liked the film incarnation of Jetfire as well.

He was one of the only parts of Revenge of the Fallen I liked, and I kinda wish he lived to see the sequel instead of dying to become a power mushroom.

He kind of feels like he would have fit Transformers Animated pretty well, honestly, if Animated!Jetfire didn't already exist. Maybe they could have had two Autobots named Jetfire, one of them being a turncoat, and the other the younger Jetfire.

Sep 20th 2019 at 2:07:13 AM

Jetfire is one of those classic characters with a lot of variation between incarnations, and not much consistent between them. A former Decepticon is about it, but his exact personality and whether or not he combines with Optimus is left up in the air. ROTF Jetfire is hugely amusing, that's for sure. Blackout and Bonecrusher do need more love, Blackout in particular has a silent Giant Mook presence that worked really well in the movie and would work great among established 'Cons.

Sep 20th 2019 at 3:06:36 AM

I'd like to see the Aerialbots used more if only because I like seeing more flying Autobots.

Also, Jet Storm, Wing Saber and Cloudraker. Mostly because I like their names.

Edited by windleopard on Sep 20th 2019 at 3:06:54 AM

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Sep 20th 2019 at 6:08:06 AM

Unicron Trilogy Jetfire has never been a Decepticon IIRC.

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Sep 20th 2019 at 8:37:29 AM

Animated Jetfire wasn't one either. Nor was War for Cybertron Jetfire.

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Sep 20th 2019 at 8:42:56 AM

Armada Jetfire does have a decepticon persona for undercover stuff though according to his toy (Sky Shadow).

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Sep 20th 2019 at 11:57:54 AM

Prime episodes 16-21

Miko continues to be the worst.

Arcee is also the worst in episode 20.

Sorry Starscream. Without a human girl as your Morality Pet, your plan to hang out with the Autobot isn't gonna fly, and even that Starscream doesn't hang around that long either.

Megatron has been Out of Focus ever since he first "died." He really should get off his butt and exercise.

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Shadao Surprised Satoshi
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Sep 20th 2019 at 12:26:49 PM

Well, there's a reason why the Great War has been going on for millions of years tongue. Most of the time spent was stockpiling Energon and depriving the other side of it. Come to think of it, it's always the events on Earth that the Great War sped up to its conclusion at an abnormal pace (though I heard Cyberverse somewhat averts it by having Season 2 take place decades after Season 1, likely helped by the lack of human presence).

Next episode will be one of my favorites, considering it's A Day in the Limelight for Ratchet. I hope you'll have more to say about that one.

Also, Airarchnid made a subtle, crucial mistake that would unravel Megatron's plans for Orion Pax. By abandoning Starscream to the Autobots and subsequently pushing out of the Decepticons, Starscream is now a rogue agent who has all the knowledge of Decepticon projects and activities in the works. Such as the location of the Space Bridge. No wonder Megatron got pissed at Airarchnid.

Edited by Shadao on Sep 20th 2019 at 12:27:26 PM

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Sep 20th 2019 at 4:34:01 PM

Yeah. This series gives something of an answer to why Megs would keep Screamer around.

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Sep 20th 2019 at 4:39:07 PM

Itís cause heís his let monkey. Seeing him dance & look like an idiot amuses him to nearly no end.

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Sep 20th 2019 at 4:43:22 PM

The big thing with Prime is that it never can decide what to do with Starscream. There's moments where he's positively brilliant, and showing actual proper insight. But then he'll fail through means outside his control. For example, in season 3 when he lets Wheeljack escape so he can track him. It's a good plan... if it'd have been anyone but Wheeljack, who is the only one who'd check himself for trackers and bombs coz he's done the same trick. Starscream fails, looks like an idiot. But really, his plan was sound. Other times he's acting like a complete idiot. You end with this tonal shift. When starscream sends his clones to kill Megatron it's like... who am I rooting for? Coz Starscream leading the decepticons doesn't feel like he'd be more of a threat...

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Sep 20th 2019 at 5:11:52 PM

Okay I just finished the 1st Prime Dinobots comics & considering it was apparently a lead-up to the show back when they were planned to make an appearance, you could make some assumptions on their possible show-dynamics.

The majority of the Prime team would dislike or distrust them to their rowdy nature, discriminating against their dino-forms, & the fact they only answer to Grimlock but Ultra Magnus would be the bot who always sticks up for them cause he knows firsthand they are truly decent bots.

Grimlock & the others would suffer a great-deal of self-loathing from their forced state with Slug in particular possibly becoming addicted to his beast mode out of seeing his robot mode as weak & wanting to be strong.

Which all ends with them having their final confrontation & revenge against Shockwave for everything he's done to them. In hindsight this is prolly why Shockwave ends the show as a Karma Houdini. The Dinbots were supposed to finish him off in a climactic battle but once they were cut so was any grand end for Shockwave.

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Sep 20th 2019 at 11:15:22 PM

Prime episodes 22-26

Ah yes, the Ratchet on steroid episode. It was actually my fIrst Prime episode. I find the build up to be rather lacking, really.

Oh great, flying Vehicons, exactly what I need.

The episodes after that are more noteworthy, since Megatron is getting the center stage again. At least this time Starscream doesn't need to die to convince Megatron to team up with Optimus this time.

Apparently Bay wasn't the first one to come up with this Unicron is Earth bullscrap. I'm inclined to imagine him with Adam Howden's voice.

"Humans are bacteria, clinging to my body!"

Nice, we have Orion Pax's and Megatronus' pasts. Soundwave sure lost weight over time.

Finally Soundwave got to smack some traitors. What took him so long?

And that's the end of Season 1. Unfortunately, Netflix doesn't have Seasons 2 and 3. Overall, this is my favorite Transformers series so far, but since I don't like Energon and Animated, the only competition is Armada.

Edited by RAlexa21th on Sep 20th 2019 at 11:23:10 AM

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Shadao Surprised Satoshi
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Sep 21st 2019 at 12:18:35 AM

Older Than They Think, indeed. Unicron being the Earth was indeed something that Prime came up with first, and there were actual stakes on the matter. Namely that they discover this unfortunate fact just when Unicron is really to get up and stretch his continent size limbs. Whereas the The Last Knight just casually mentions that fact and doesn't elaborate on why Unicron is really bad news. At least Prime gave a brief backstory on where Unicron came from, and actually gave Unicron enough dialogue and personality to establish that he hates all living things (especially Prime) and thus wouldn't mind killing them all by breaking out of the Earth.

On another note, the fight between Optimus Prime and Megatron was one of the most vicious and creative fights I've seen in a long time (with only Armada and The Transformers: The Movie rivaling its brutality). I mean, when was the last time you saw Optimus Prime transform into a truck to ram Megatron and then use his wheels to give a sick tire streaks on Megatron's own face?

Edited by Shadao on Sep 21st 2019 at 12:19:05 PM

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