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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#276: Jul 4th 2013 at 6:56:05 AM

So many first series beast modes had terrible undersides. What bugged me was that beast butt flap in Robot Mode.

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CobraPrime Sharknado Warning from Canada Since: Dec, 1969 Relationship Status: Robosexual
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#277: Jul 4th 2013 at 7:12:45 AM

Many transformers have that in general. But in Dinobot's case, it pretty much ruins his beast mode. It's a flaw almost as big as the damn beast bits themselves and it look like crap.

WorldTurtle Since: Jan, 2011
#278: Jul 4th 2013 at 7:19:17 AM

Dude, Dinobot would be huge.

And that would be a bad thing how?

Also, it'd be nice to see him with light-up eyes.

That would be cool.

edited 4th Jul '13 7:21:07 AM by WorldTurtle

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#279: Jul 4th 2013 at 7:20:56 AM

[up]Did I suggest it would be a bad thing?

[up][up]These were the Dinobot toys I had. One looked quite a bit nicer, though neither were entirely show accurate.

edited 4th Jul '13 7:24:13 AM by wanderlustwarrior

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WorldTurtle Since: Jan, 2011
#280: Jul 4th 2013 at 7:22:58 AM

No, just responding for emphasis in fanboyish glee. Heh...IIIRC Optimus would have to be smaller then Dinobot and Rhinox if they for "show height" accuracy. He didn't start getting bigger then everyone else till he was made a transmetal.

Also Didn't Dinobot have a Universe Toy that was more show accurate? Though it was the japanese version that had show accurate colors...

Okay we need a new DB on principle.

Also cause we have Waspinator: I can see a Buzz Saw retool/repaint in the future-though I lean towards a "fan made" version.

OH if they do Tarantulas. Please let them get rid of that stupid grappling hook/string that's attached to his skid plate - it always got in the way when I played with him and even when it was loaded into the gun while stored in his back I had to be careful not to hit the trigger or it'll just shoot out.

edited 4th Jul '13 7:38:36 AM by WorldTurtle

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#281: Jul 4th 2013 at 7:40:33 AM

The Universe toy was a bit better, but the colors we completely off, in both the japanese and american releases (He's grey. 'nuff said). And they still suffer from "terrible belly kibble syndrome" but not as badly as the original. Also his robot mode arms are really inaccurate.

WorldTurtle Since: Jan, 2011
#282: Jul 4th 2013 at 7:44:40 AM

BTW how "show accurate" would you say they can make these guys I mean there will be little things they just can't do. Look at the Waspinator toy for example. In the show the two insect legs on his robot mode arms shrink down to a more manageable size, and the third set of beast mode legs just vanish.

Also they have the Predacon symbol on his back oppose to the side of his head (which to be fair probably would be a pain to do).

edited 4th Jul '13 7:46:23 AM by WorldTurtle

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#283: Jul 4th 2013 at 7:52:03 AM

Obviously, no one's expecting 100% screen accuracy on a 12$ toy Especially when some details are physically impossible. But look at this Waspinator Vs the Original.

Some of the details are even amazing. Like the yellow stripes on the inside of his forearms.

edited 4th Jul '13 7:55:49 AM by CobraPrime

WorldTurtle Since: Jan, 2011
#284: Jul 4th 2013 at 8:01:44 AM

Oh yes the physically impossible elements aside it is a great figure, though while I'm not 1000% sure but from the angle of the robot head it looks like they didn't paint the back side of his head (again). But that won't stop me from loving this figure.

WorldTurtle Since: Jan, 2011
#285: Jul 5th 2013 at 7:15:31 PM

Video of Generations Waspinator at other angles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUPSALB0eEI Yeah the back of the head is apparently some clear plastic, it kind of looks like he's wearing mask.

EDIT: Okay that's weird: In the Robot Mode Shot the eyes are white (matching the plastic of the back head), however in the Beast Mode Shot-where you can see his robot mode head-the eyes are the same blue as his beast mode eyes. Well... maybe these are just the prototypes and any minor details that need touching up will be sorted out before release?

edited 5th Jul '13 8:08:15 PM by WorldTurtle

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#286: Jul 6th 2013 at 12:22:38 PM

These are prototype, often used for publicity and test shot. 99% of the time they are hand painted and the paint job may not even resemble the final product. Never trust pre-release footage for toy color information, especially from Hasbro.

edited 6th Jul '13 12:29:03 PM by Ghilz

WorldTurtle Since: Jan, 2011
#287: Jul 6th 2013 at 1:24:38 PM

Ah okay this is really the first time I ever looked at a pre-release figure so closely.

marston Since: Sep, 2011
#288: Jul 25th 2013 at 1:32:55 PM

Random Question that came to mind: Which version of Megatron do you think would in in a fight, the Beast Wars version {With his Dragon form from the last 4 episodes} or the Transformers Prime version?

edited 25th Jul '13 1:33:16 PM by marston

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#289: Jul 25th 2013 at 1:51:12 PM

Prime Megatron hands down, remember Maximals and Predacons are more-or-less human sized. Even the largest character in the show, "Optimal" Optimus, was smaller than G1 Optimus while Prime Megatron is one of the largest among regular Autobot/Decepticon Cybertronians.

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#290: Jul 25th 2013 at 1:52:36 PM

Yeah, Prime Megs easily. BW Megs is more clever so he might out scheme him given time and ressources. But straight out fight? He'd get crushed.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#291: Jul 25th 2013 at 2:46:42 PM

Without some way to become as big as Prime Megatron, Beast Wars Megs gets stomped...literally.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#292: Jul 25th 2013 at 2:59:38 PM

Really, size is where the Beast Wars cast are screwed, as they scaled down for efficiency's sake. However, Tigerhawk could take on the Nemesis momentarily, but he was an outlier.

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WorldTurtle Since: Jan, 2011
#293: Jul 25th 2013 at 3:11:32 PM

Tigerhawk due to being a Living Weather Machine could probably take on most save the Guardian Robot or City-Size bots. He might be able to break Combiners apart before they could do anything though.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#294: Jul 25th 2013 at 3:21:12 PM

Tigerhawk had the advantage of some mystical powers that puts him closer to Physical God than robot. Magic tends to trump physical strength, although he was only in like three episodes so it's hard to gauge his upper limits. As far as the Beast Wars are concerned he was the most powerful single character.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#295: Jul 25th 2013 at 5:00:16 PM

Well technically... Japan is here for us.

(At equal size, BW Megatron trounces G1 Optimus and Victory Saber, but gets beaten up by Primal and Prime doing some weird double move)

Size could be handwaved by the Negative Space Wedgie that united them (The Blasty Zone. I swear it's the name!) or Japan just not giving a fuck.

edited 25th Jul '13 5:05:01 PM by Ghilz

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#296: Jul 25th 2013 at 5:24:22 PM

That second one without a doubt.

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WorldTurtle Since: Jan, 2011
#297: Jul 25th 2013 at 6:26:53 PM

So I was skimming through tfwiki and I came across something that made me wonder if the Ark can hold a crew capacity of 300, how big a crew can the Nemesis hold?

I also wondered if the number (300) was a shout out.

edited 25th Jul '13 6:31:41 PM by WorldTurtle

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#298: Jul 25th 2013 at 6:40:45 PM

Considering the actual intent of the Axalon's voyage was to dump Rampage on some abandoned planet (or preferably a SUN) mid-voyage, one has to wonder why they had so many stasis pods. Enough for two series, considering they landed in Beast Wars II, right?

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#299: Jul 25th 2013 at 6:46:41 PM

No. Beast Wars 2 is another crew, on another planet.

We don't talk of BWII or BW Neo.

Seriously don't.

Except the toys. They were cool.

Anyway, I always figured the pods were for an early colonization effort. It's an exploration vessel. It dumps a bunch of newly awakened Maximals on a inhabitable planet they find, moves on or returns home to link the colony to Cybertron and the Maximal's dominion.

edited 25th Jul '13 6:48:12 PM by Ghilz

WorldTurtle Since: Jan, 2011
#300: Jul 25th 2013 at 7:18:59 PM

You know I still wonder what would of happened had the rest of the toyline been included in the BW show. Think about it the majority of the Predacons would of been brainwashed good guys. Megatron's plan would of been just as bad for them as it would the Maximals. Technically even the Predacons would be erased from existece-at least as they currently are AU versions of them might exist, not that they remember. Depending on how screwing with the timestream works in the T Fverse.

Point is not all the former Maximals would be like Inferno, once they realize what Megatron's plan meant for them they turn on him so fast...

edited 25th Jul '13 7:19:17 PM by WorldTurtle


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