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WolfThunder Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
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Sep 8th 2019 at 12:30:00 PM

"You didnt cross a line. You used spoiler tags. Please dont feel like you cant post here."

Alright, if you say so. What I wanted to ask is really more of a suggestion; I'm thinking of revamping the Characters sub-page for the series. I'm thinking making three separate sub-pages for it, one containing characters that debuted in the Beat-'em-ups, one containing characters that debuted in the sports games, and listed as "Others", which'd contain any characters that may have debuted from Nekketsu Kakutō Densetsu, Kunio no Oden, and Ore Wa Otoko Da Kunio Kun, as well as cameo characters from other Technos IPs like Double Dragon and now The Combatribes, and maybe even characters from the Americanized games, like Crash 'n' the Boys: Street Challenge, Target: Renegade, Renegade 3: The Final Chapter, and River City Ransom: Underground. I might need some debate on this, though. For one thing, I'm wondering if the Americanized characters' section will get so big that they'll need their own sub-page?

EDIT: There's also concern about it maybe being hypocritical to separate the Renegade and River City Ransom characters from the Beat-'em-up subpage, yet still add River City Girls to said sub-page even though that's also an American-developed game.

Edited by WolfThunder on Sep 8th 2019 at 1:15:33 AM

The storm has now resided, the wolf now rests.
WolfThunder Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
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Sep 8th 2019 at 7:14:17 PM

Here's a video of all of the enemies/recruits in River City Girls;

It seems that the regular enemies have a total of three regular variants to them, as well as two special unique variants, one more demonic and zombie-ish, the other I think is more for a miniboss. The exceptions to this rule are Waver, Linda, and Trash, who just have the "miniboss" and "zombie" variants. They are as follows;

  • Georgios, Steve, Reggie, and Rogers: Low life miscreants who learned to fight on the streets.
    • Farrokh: The streets of River City have toughened his skin and soul.
    • Chaim: Sabu's illegal chemical reservoir wasn't the best choice for swimming.
  • Reina, Hinata, Hannah, and Ichika: If you are not part of their clique, you are part of their problem.
    • Nen: The dominant female of the pack. She didn't get the part for her looks.
    • Vesper: She tried a seance one night with her friends. It didn't end well.
  • Seirai, Kayden, Kaitsu, and Malhar: These entitled jerks love to fight dirty.
    • Mel: Leader of the schoolboys and his own band. So cool.
    • Grendel: Once the prom king. Not really a contender for that title anymore.
  • Linnea, Chara, Ashanti, and Colleen: These cheerful girls are agile and love to dodge your advances.
    • Midori: The cheerleader leader leading her lethal ladies.
    • Rachel: She cares not for leading cheers. She's more like a fearleader.
  • Waver: A bizarre gambler with a penchant for taking high risks.
    • Exie: Waver's cousin from the other side of the tracks.
    • Chance: A cursed puppet with a penchant for mayhem.
  • Linda: A tough lady who prefers to punish her enemies with her whip.
    • Neo Linda: Linda's twin sister. She was technically born first, so she's in charge.
    • Mecha Linda: An evil doppleganger who won't stop until she dominates this entire city.
  • Saito, Onishi, Nomura, and Matsui: Corrupt police that are certainly not sworn to protect you.
    • Fujimoto: The chief of police is even more corrupted than the people paying him.
    • Nakamura: Being killed in the line of duty was merely an inconvenience to this dirty cop.
  • Dwayne, Leon, Aurelien, and Szatkowski: These pro wrestlers are as agile as they are musclebound.
    • Oscar: Never took a knife edge chop he didn't sadistically enjoy.
    • Hellwig: He made a heel turn years ago and never turned back.
  • Trash: Once he gets his trusty hammer going, nothing can stop him.
    • Garbage: Trash's brother that used to bully him. Just think how he feels about you.
    • Scum: His mother warned him not to drink Turbo Juice excessively.
  • D4-V1D, 64-RC14, J4-M35, and CH-R15: Giant robots from the future disguised as giant robot looking humans.
    • J3-R3MY: Modern ballistics feels like being hit by feathers to him.
    • H4-YD3N: When science was not enough, the cyborgs tried their metal hands at magic.
  • Fudo, Hisoka, Katashi, and Hiromi: Sabuko's army of martial artists are incredibly skilled with their fists.
    • Masaaki: Sabuko's very own left hand man. No one dares challenge his authority.
    • Osamu: Possessed by an ancient oni and an insatiable desire for combat.
  • Akari, Harumi, Hideko, and Maiko: Sabuko's henchwomen are deadly with their knife throwing skills.
    • Momoe: Sabuko's right hand lady. Her knives are can slice teenage girls like cafeteria butter.
    • Shinobu: Sabuko's main assassin. She does this job for free.

I hope to god that this doesn't count as spoilers.

The storm has now resided, the wolf now rests.
ShirowShirow Play Langrisser from Land of maple syrup Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Play Langrisser
Sep 8th 2019 at 9:01:59 PM

Gaaaah I hope this game has some DLC. I need boss rush mode, higher difficulties, some more enemies... It's so much fun that I plan on playing through it with all four characters as is.

Bleye knows Sabers.
WolfThunder Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
Sep 8th 2019 at 9:22:37 PM

[up] I have been thinking of a River City Girls 2, with Ayumi and Coco Savage from Mat Mania - The Prowrestling Network as guest star bosses (With the latter actaully being a successor to the original Coco Savage and also a fan of both him and the other Mat Mania characters, and as such would incorporate moves from all of them into his moveset), Xain as a shopkeeper, and ShingoFJ2 and the RK300s as minor characters. It'd also even feature Alex in his River City Ransom: Underground incarnation as both a character separate from Kunio and an important side-character to the plot, as well as Coach Otis as a minor character mentoring Takashi Onizuka.

The storm has now resided, the wolf now rests.
ShirowShirow Play Langrisser from Land of maple syrup Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Play Langrisser
Sep 9th 2019 at 12:04:24 AM

[up] Hopefully the game does well enough to justify a lot more installments with this style. I love it so much. Branching into four-player co-op with the quartet of protagonists we're offered just seems like a no-brainer at this point, preferably with legions of enemies dynasty-warriors style.

Kunio in particular is fun to play as in this thanks to his insane special moves and a Grin of Audacity that might be the best in gaming.

I just ordered a physical edition from Limited Run Games. Now I gotta hunt down all those Sabu statues.

Edited by ShirowShirow on Sep 9th 2019 at 3:07:34 PM

Bleye knows Sabers.
Zeromaeus Mighty No. 51345 from Neo Arcadia
Mighty No. 51345
Sep 9th 2019 at 12:12:46 AM

I'd personally like to see a game that's Shenmue by way of Kunio-Kun/River City.

Mega Man fanatic extraordinaire
WolfThunder Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
Sep 9th 2019 at 9:04:04 AM

[up][up] What I hope for is a Fighting Game with a bunch of characters from throughout the franchise similar to River City Melee: Battle Royal Special and the upcoming River City Melee Mach!! in the style of River City Girls.

And when I say "characters from throughout the franchise", I don't just mean just the ones from the Kunio-kun games. I also mean the ones from all of the localized games as well, including River City Ransom: Underground, the Renegade games, Crash 'n' the Boys: Street Challenge, and Super Dodge Ball Advance. Even characters from Nijiiro Dodge Ball: Otome Tachi no Seishun would be fair game, and there could even be characters from other Technos IPs, like Double Dragon, The Combatribes, Mat Mania, Xaind Sleena, Minky Monkey, Bogey Manor, Voltage Fighter Gowcaizer, etc.

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Sep 9th 2019 at 2:17:39 PM

I love when a game take less than 10 minutes to validate my purchase

RodimusMinor Not actually a minor
Not actually a minor
Sep 9th 2019 at 2:33:50 PM

[up][up][up]That's basically an apt description of The Friends of Ringo Ishikawa.

Sep 9th 2019 at 4:12:00 PM

[up] Which is absolutely amazing and I cannot recommend enough. I need to finish it but the whole thing is excellent.

WolfThunder Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
Sep 12th 2019 at 4:44:12 AM

[up]Nice. I hope the sequel has 4 player co-op and might involved Misako and Kyoko teaming up with Mami and Hasebe where the 4 girls form an Enemy Mine to rescue Kunio and Riki while arguing with each other who deserves to be guys "real" girlfriends.

WolfThunder Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
Sep 12th 2019 at 1:42:40 PM

[up] I would love that.

Though seriously, back onto the topic I brought up at the top of this page, what do you guys think of my Characters sub-page revamp idea?

Here's a basic skeleton for what I have in mind for the sub-pages (Without the characters);

For the "Kunio-kun Beat-'em-up Debuts" sub-page

Introduced in Nekketsu Kōha Kunio-kun

Introduced in Downtown Nekketsu Monogatari

Introduced in Nekketsu Kōha Kunio-kun: Bangai Rantō Hen

Introduced in Downtown Special: Kunio-kun no Jidaigeki da yo Zen'in Shūgō!

Introduced in Shodai Nekketsu Koha Kuniokun

Introduced in Kunio-tachi no Banka

Introduced in Riki Densetsu

Introduced in River City: Tokyo Rumble

Introduced in River City: Knights of Justice

Introduced in Kunio-kun no Nekketsu Street

Introduced in Downtown Nekketsu Jidaigeki

Introduced in River City Girls

Introduced in Stay Cool, Kobayashi-san!: A River City Ransom Story

For the "Kunio-kun Sports Games Debuts" sub-page

Introduced in Nekketsu Kōkō Dodgeball Bu

Introduced in Nekketsu Kōkō Dodgeball Bu: PC Bangai Hen

Introduced in Nekketsu Kōkō Dodgeball Bu: Soccer Hen

Introduced in Downtown Nekketsu Kōshinkyoku: Soreyuke Daiundōkai

Introduced in Nekketsu Kōkō Soccer Bu: World Cup Hen

Introduced in Nekketsu Kōkō Dodgeball Bu: Kyōteki! Dōkyū Senshi no Maki

Introduced in Nekketsu Kōkō Dodgeball Bu: CD Soccer Hen

Introduced in Ike Ike! Nekketsu Hockey Bu: Subette Koronde Dairantō

Introduced in Nekketsu Kōkō Dodgeball Bu: PC Soccer Hen

Introduced in Bikkuri Nekketsu Shinkiroku! Harukanaru Kin Medal

Introduced in Downtown Nekketsu Kōshinkyoku: Dokodemo Daiundōkai

Introduced in Nekketsu Kōkō Dodgeball Bu: MD Soccer Hen

Introduced in Kunio-kun no Nekketsu Soccer League

Introduced in Bikkuri Nekketsu Shinkiroku: Dokodemo Kin Medal

Introduced in Kunio-kun no Dodgeball da yo Zen'in Shūgō

Introduced in Nekketsu! Street Basket: Ganbare Dunk Heroes

Introduced in Downtown Nekketsu Baseball Monogatari: Yakyū de Shōbu da! Kunio-kun

Introduced in Nekketsu! Beach Volley da yo: Kunio-kun

Introduced in Kunio no Nekketsu Dodgeball Densetsu

Introduced in Super Dodge Ball Advance

Introduced in Nijiiro Dodge Ball: Otome Tachi no Seishun

Introduced in Super Dodgeball Brawlers

Introduced in Nekketsu Dodgeball Bu i

Introduced in River City Dodge Ball All Stars!!

Introduced in Downtown Smash Dodgeball

Introduced in River City Super Sports Challenge

Introduced in River City Soccer Hooligans

Introduced in Downtown Nekketsu Dodgeball

Introduced in River City Super Sports Challenge ~All Stars Special~

Introduced in River City Melee: Battle Royal Special

Introduced in River City Melee Mach!!

For the "Kunio-kun Others" sub-page

Localized Releases and Related Games

Introduced in Renegade

Introduced in Target: Renegade

Introduced in Renegade III: The Final Chapter

Introduced in Super Dodge Ball

Introduced in River City Ransom/Street Gangs

Introduced in River City Ransom: Underground

Introduced in Nintendo World Cup

Introduced in Crash 'n' the Boys: Street Challenge

Other Games

Introduced in Nekketsu Kakutō Densetsu

Introduced in Kunio no Oden

Introduced in Nekketsu Kōkō! Kunio-kun Online

Supplemental Material

Introduced in Ore Wa Otoko Da Kunio Kun

Introduced in the movie

Introduced in the Live-Action TV series

It's still a work in progress, I'm not sure if a number of these works have any debuting characters. If anyone could give me an easy reference for characters by series debut outside of Wikipedia, the Kunio-kun wikia, and even This Very Wiki, I'd be most appreciative.

EDIT: Dammit, I forgot one section for Others

Cameos from other Technos IPs

Double Dragon

The Combatribes

Edited by WolfThunder on Sep 12th 2019 at 1:51:10 AM

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ShirowShirow Play Langrisser from Land of maple syrup Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Play Langrisser
Sep 12th 2019 at 2:46:35 PM

The character page definitely needs a revamp of some kind but given how massive the franchise is and how little has been added so far we would need an influx of manpower to fill it out.

Bleye knows Sabers.
WolfThunder Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
Sep 12th 2019 at 7:03:37 PM

[up] I'm afraid that's just not probable. I asked about something related to needing a large amount of assistance a long time ago, and got the response that editing TVTropes is a voluntary effort and, while you can ask for help, there are no groups that exist to pump editing into a page. So unless we have a lot of tropers that are very familiar with Kunio-kun here on the site, I don't think there'd be enough to facilitate remodeling an entire sub-page.

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WolfThunder Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
WolfThunder Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
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Sep 14th 2019 at 11:56:24 AM

Here's a video showcasing all of the Shops and Dojos, as well as all of the Shopkeepers;

And here's a video showing what all of the recruits in the game do;

How Misako and Kyoko met;

Imma be honest, I don't like how this game characterizes Hasebe and Mami. And Misako for that matter.

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WolfThunder Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
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darkabomination the Quantum Mechanic from cyberspace Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
the Quantum Mechanic
Sep 14th 2019 at 10:12:47 PM

It would be really cool to see more games like this. Neon was kind of a one-off. The Double Dragon cameos are really great in this pixel style.

"Less With The Sweet and Awesome, More With the Stabby-Hurty."
Sep 15th 2019 at 7:22:56 PM

RC Girls take a little while to come online but once your moveset is full and you've got a good grasp of it it's one of the most solid mechanical beat 'em ups I've played. I'd like to see the kinks get ironed out though since it's a lot rougher than it needs to be.

darkabomination the Quantum Mechanic from cyberspace Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
the Quantum Mechanic
Sep 15th 2019 at 8:04:06 PM

It's a little slow to start since you gotta get those moves. It feels a little unnecessary, and might give the impression the combat's actually more simplistic/clunkier than it is.

"Less With The Sweet and Awesome, More With the Stabby-Hurty."
RodimusMinor Not actually a minor
Not actually a minor
Sep 15th 2019 at 8:14:37 PM

I was fine with the gameplay by the time I fought Misuzu, so no more than 20 minutes.

ShirowShirow Play Langrisser from Land of maple syrup Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Play Langrisser
Sep 15th 2019 at 10:23:18 PM

The slow-unlock is probably deliberate to avoid overwhelming the player. Gotta walk before you can run and all that. (Honestly I feel more games should do that.)

The problems I have with the game are all pretty minor, like not telling you exactly what certain moves do/are for before you unlock them. I haven't even played co-op yet, can't wait.

But I really want more content. Needs an arcade challenge mode.

Edited by ShirowShirow on Sep 15th 2019 at 1:23:28 PM

Bleye knows Sabers.
WolfThunder Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
Sep 15th 2019 at 10:57:27 PM

[up] I've been wondering recently if DLC would be good for this game? Like more playable characters, being allowed to play as the Shopkeepers and Bosses.

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