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SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#1: Oct 18th 2010 at 9:30:44 AM

For something that's a very widespread term in all media, this one sure doesn't have much of an indicative name, and judging by the number of wicks and outside referrals, it can probably benefit from a new, more straightforward name.

I'd, at least, suggest Scandal-Gate as a redirect.

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#3: Oct 18th 2010 at 9:37:53 AM

Scandalgate (which is closer to how its spelled in the medias)?

edited 18th Oct '10 9:38:21 AM by Ghilz

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#4: Oct 18th 2010 at 9:39:59 AM

I thought this was strategy-game related. Looks like I lose another round of Guess That Trope....

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SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#6: Oct 18th 2010 at 9:44:05 AM

^^^ Depends on who's reporting it, I guess. When Fox News recently reported on Sarah Palin getting booed by an audience member on Dancing With The Stars recently, they called it "Boo-Gate" with the hyphen (and that's the most recent instance of the "-gate" suffix that I can recall).

Whichever one we want to go with, we can always just make the other a redirect.

edited 18th Oct '10 9:45:04 AM by SeanMurrayI

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#8: Oct 18th 2010 at 9:48:51 AM

True, but going to the original, it's Watergate, not Water-Gate. And since it's the most famous one and Trope Namer...

SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#9: Oct 18th 2010 at 9:55:01 AM

"Watergate" was just the name of the hotel that was at the source of the scandal. It's not really even an example of the trope, which is about taking the "-gate" suffix from that name and pinning it onto anything deemed scandalous in the media in reference to Nixon's scandals. The trope is a Stock Shout Out, essentially.

Examples do exist without the hyphen though; I'd only push for including the hyphen to emphasize how the trope is about adding "-gate" at the end of whatever the subject of a news piece is about, but Scandalgate would probably be more efficient to type in the end.

edited 18th Oct '10 11:59:15 AM by SeanMurrayI

wackojacko1138 Since: Dec, 2009
#10: Oct 18th 2010 at 12:11:39 PM

Gate construction sounds like it's about creating gates. I'll vote for Scandalgate. Or Scandal Gate for the sake of Wiki Words...

Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#11: Oct 18th 2010 at 12:30:00 PM

Scandalgate is good. "Watergate" is infamous more for the scandal that erupted, than the location where it took place.

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#12: Oct 18th 2010 at 12:41:58 PM

Scandalgate and Scandal Gate both resolve to the same page, so it doesn't matter how you launch it. Nthing this change.

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Yamikuronue So Yeah Since: Aug, 2009
#13: Oct 19th 2010 at 12:04:40 AM

Fighteer, I think we're discussing Scandalgate vs Scandal-Gate, which shouldn't resolve the same, should it?

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Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#14: Oct 19th 2010 at 12:13:17 AM

If they don't, it will be because Scandal-Gate has a hyphen, which means we'll need a non-punctuate redirect anyway.

Yamikuronue So Yeah Since: Aug, 2009
#15: Oct 19th 2010 at 12:22:31 AM

Scandal-Gate isn't a ptitle either...

edited 19th Oct '10 12:22:46 AM by Yamikuronue

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SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#16: Oct 19th 2010 at 10:00:02 AM

^Scandal-Gate is not a ptitle but would likely require a non-punctuated redirect all the same.

edited 19th Oct '10 10:02:20 AM by SeanMurrayI

SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
#17: Oct 19th 2010 at 11:01:12 AM

My god, I thought this was going to be a real time strategy game trope about constructing buildings and actual gate.

Scandalgate, two thumbs way up. In print and in newspapers, I've never seen the hyphen so I'm assuming its naturally rarer and its probably because it isn't a suffix it's a portmanteau. I think that everyone would type just Scandal Gate anyways.

edited 19th Oct '10 11:03:54 AM by SomeSortOfTroper

SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#18: Nov 2nd 2010 at 9:35:34 PM

Bumping this.

Scandalgate seems to be pretty popular. Do we just want to go ahead and push that one forward?

edited 2nd Nov '10 9:35:50 PM by SeanMurrayI

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#19: Nov 2nd 2010 at 9:38:41 PM

Scandalgate is trope name perfection.

Camacan from Australiatown Since: Jan, 2001
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#21: Nov 2nd 2010 at 10:15:53 PM

Another vote for some variation on Scandalgate.

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#22: Nov 2nd 2010 at 10:24:26 PM

Scandalgate

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SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#23: Nov 2nd 2010 at 10:30:19 PM

Everything sounds unanimous here. Scandalgate is now official.

Camacan from Australiatown Since: Jan, 2001
#24: Nov 2nd 2010 at 10:39:58 PM

Not complete yet. The wicks to fix are are here:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/relatedsearch.php?term=Main/GateConstruction

I'd even advise changing all the wicks for a trope before moving the page. It's less disruptive and avoids a false sense of completion. There seems to be this odd idea that moving a page to a new name equals a rename. If only it was that easy! We are fortunate here: only 22 wicks.

edited 2nd Nov '10 10:46:38 PM by Camacan

SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#25: Nov 2nd 2010 at 11:11:46 PM

^Don't worry; I was already in the middle of doing that.

By the time you posted "only 22 wicks" I had already gone through at least 5 other pages. Anyway, it's all done now. Gate Construction is still being tallied as a wick on a redirect to Harsher in Hindsight for some reason though.

edited 2nd Nov '10 11:12:12 PM by SeanMurrayI


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