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Apr 15th 2010 at 1:25:37 PM

So, is Ambassador Palaeno awesome, or WHAT?

Very much so. I just love how he more or less inverts Be as Unhelpful as Possible.

The man was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor and the Nobel Peace Prize. He was the best at both killing and not killing - Stranger
Apr 24th 2010 at 6:34:43 AM

You know, people have been arguing about whether 1-4 or 3-5 is better, but I say that 2-4 beats both of them.

1-4 was good. Very good. 2-4 is just a bit better. 3-5 is a cool case and all, but it has too much spirit channeling for me. Calling Mia Back from the Dead to help you is alright, but when spirits and supernatural things make up 95% of the plot? No thanks.

2-4 was amazing because:

  • EDIT: For me spoiler tags don't seem to be working so SPOILERS AHOY!

1. It breaks the mold by giving you a guilty client. And his personality is even the 'regular client' type guy.

2. Adrian's Framing the Guilty Party actually screwed her over, and you don't realize you're accusing the wrong person until Day 2.

3. Matt's hair flip. Just, Matt's hair flip.

4. The whole Matt/Celeste/Juan triangle, and Adrian in the centre of it all.

5. By Day 2 it's obvious who hired deKiller. Everyone in the courtroom knows it. You're stalling for time and hoping that the police rescue Maya. You're out on a limb to defend Matt even when you know he's guilty because of Maya.

6.Then deKiller testifies and he names his client to be... ADRIAN! Suddenly you can win the trial, and this time you throw down what you've been doing and argue against the assassin himself! You don't want to push him the wrong way, yet you won't want to 'win' the trial.

7. You have a choice. Guilty or Not Guilty. If you choose Guilty, then even when justice is served, Maya dies. If you choose Not Guilty, Matt goes free and Adrian takes her place. This Moral Dilemma has left players stuck on that choice for hours!

8. Thankfully, Franziska saves the day. The ending is hilarious and incredibly satisfying. Who DIDN'T choose Not Guilty after you present the tape to deKiller? I remember Edgeworth saying something like this:

"Even though you're free, remember that in the near future a certain very betrayed assassin will appear before you. Needless to say, he is very good at what he does, if you see the contents of the tape."

And then "GUILTYGUILTYGUILTYGUILTYGUILTYGUILTY *scratches face off!*"

Pure genius.

edited 24th Apr '10 6:38:12 AM by Rashrules

Apr 24th 2010 at 7:32:44 AM

You know, people have been arguing about whether 1-4 or 3-5 is better
I don't know about that, as far as I've seen, general agreement is that 2-4 is the best of the three.

Apr 24th 2010 at 8:10:54 AM

Who DIDN'T choose Not Guilty after you present the tape to deKiller?

I didn't. Why would I want to keep Adrian at risk?

It's a plot! ...Quite a well written one too.
slowzombie Platypus! from Way up North
Platypus!
Apr 24th 2010 at 9:20:56 AM

I had the impression Justice For all in general was less popular than AA and T&T, but there's little doubt that 2-4 is the best case in the game, like a good final case should be  *

, but I still like 1-4 and 3-5 better, mostly thanks to the large emotional attachment I had to the case, in 3-5's case, and Manfred Von Karma, in 1-4's case. The rest of 1-4 was so-so, but watching the utter bastard Von Karma banging his head into the wall was very satisfying.

Don't get me wrong, 2-4 was a good, and unique. I think the reason I didn't like it so much was because I found it difficult, both in the "So, what the hell am I supposed to do now" and the "Should I even do this"-way, and I guess that's intended, so I can't really blame them for that.

edited 12th May '10 7:47:30 AM by slowzombie

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slowzombie Platypus! from Way up North
Platypus!
May 12th 2010 at 7:38:59 AM

Necro doublepost for justice.

Phoenix Wright:Ace Satirist
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Well, that explains a lot, don't you think

Oh, and I'm up to case 5 of Investigations now, here's hoping it's epic.

edited 12th May '10 7:39:38 AM by slowzombie

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SpookyMask Insert title from Corner in round room Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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May 12th 2010 at 9:19:20 AM

I am waiting for wiiware release of third one SO I GET EM' ALL!!!

Time to change the style, for now
Cidolfas El Cid from Toronto
El Cid
May 13th 2010 at 7:09:29 AM

Wow, that's a really interesting article. I'm a goin' pimp it on my blog, yo.

May 31st 2010 at 1:03:57 AM

Big Ace Attorney fan over here. This series, along with Pokemon, is probably one of my biggest joys in life. :D

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Relationship Status: is commanded toŚ WANK!
Court Dragon
Jun 1st 2010 at 3:39:02 PM

Wow. That Escapist article was really informative.

Geez and here I thought that the games had basis in reality, but were largely extreme exaggeration.

I have a message from another time...
Jun 30th 2010 at 4:00:34 PM

A few months back I wrote a blog ranking the best cases in the Ace Attorney series, and if you made your way to this thread, you'll probably get a kick out of it. Or violently disagree with me, whichever.

http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/ace+of+knaves/the-top-10-least-objectionable-ace-attorney-cases-167048.phtml

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Court Dragon
Jun 30th 2010 at 4:03:18 PM

I have a question about The Stolen Tournabout. Why is it you never end up using Kane's List after you get it?

edit: ^ You made a mistake in The Stolen Tournabout. Your client didn't steal the urn. Luke committed both crimes.

edited 30th Jun '10 5:31:15 PM by Enlong

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SpookyMask Insert title from Corner in round room Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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Jul 1st 2010 at 3:20:27 AM

Wow, kinda odd to see old post from time before I got third game...(this thread get really small amount of new posts xD)

I now have played all of em'.

Time to change the style, for now
occono from Ireland.
Jul 10th 2010 at 1:34:20 PM

I've just started the very first game. I only got it two days ago and I'm already near the end of the fifth case >_> It's good though.

Dumbo
Jul 12th 2010 at 10:06:10 AM

They tend to be rather fast plays, but you forget a surprising amount of information in cases after you finish them. That's why I'm entertained with replaying them as often as I do [which is almost always].

Soliferrum Intelligent Fool from The Crown of Babel
Intelligent Fool
Jul 13th 2010 at 5:29:46 PM

I'm always sad whenever I finish an AA game. Any news on a new game in the series?

Everything is better as a Dunkleosteus.
RhymeBeat Bird mom from Eastern Standard Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Bird mom
Jul 13th 2010 at 5:45:06 PM

Apollo Justice 2 is currently in the Vaporware catrgory. Lets see what the team does after Ghost Trick.

The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.
Jul 13th 2010 at 6:44:46 PM

But of course because they released GK before completing Apollo's saga, now half the fanbase is gonna beg for continuation of GK and the other half's gonna beg for AJ. Silly Capcom.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Relationship Status: is commanded toŚ WANK!
Court Dragon
Jul 13th 2010 at 7:11:34 PM

What they should do is fuse the two, alternating playable characters. The real adversary would then be not the defense, or the prosecution, but the criminal.

I have a message from another time...
RhymeBeat Bird mom from Eastern Standard Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Bird mom
Jul 13th 2010 at 7:42:26 PM

I want to do a webcomic like this featuring Kay Faraday against Apollo Justice, but I need to play Ace Attorney 4 first. It would spoiler the guilty party but the Good Lawyer Good People system has done this to the cases already. Also the cases are won by appeal, meaning that natural sympathy takes a factor acting as a difficulty level and a replacement for penalties.

The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.
Soliferrum Intelligent Fool from The Crown of Babel
Intelligent Fool
Jul 13th 2010 at 7:44:25 PM

I have a feeling that Kay and Maya would become best friends.

Everything is better as a Dunkleosteus.
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Relationship Status: is commanded toŚ WANK!
Court Dragon
Jul 13th 2010 at 8:16:31 PM

Their crazy momentum would be unstoppable! No rationality would be safe!

I have a message from another time...
Jul 13th 2010 at 8:30:42 PM

I love Kay to pieces. She's just so cute! I didn't think there was an assistant that I'd like more than Maya. XD

Soliferrum Intelligent Fool from The Crown of Babel
Intelligent Fool
Jul 13th 2010 at 8:38:03 PM

Kay was my favorite, too. Not just because of "Badger GET".

Everything is better as a Dunkleosteus.
Jul 13th 2010 at 8:47:24 PM

Little Kay is what made me love her. SO. CUTE.


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