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Ace Attorney Investigations : Miles Edgeworth is out !
I've just started playing it (I'm currently finishing up the second case), and it's awesome.
Mostly spoiler-free first impressions :
edited 19th Feb '10 2:28:18 AM by Jhiday
Thoughts on the 3rd case :
edited 21st Feb '10 6:14:26 AM by Jhiday
I got my copy of Investigations ordered, but since it has to get all the way from Albion to the frigid North-Way, I'm expecting it sometime next week. That said, I'm working my way through 4-4, and this reporter guy is NOT endearing himself to me. He's like a more obnoxious Larry Butz ferchrissakes. Butz was at least a little funny.
Just wait until you see his sweat. :/
Yeah... I was no big fan of the "perceive" system before, but that was a bit of a Guide Dang It! and Squick rolled up into one. I don't know why, but I never know where to look for people's ticks, and it doesn't meld as well with the largely (mostly sound) logic-driven nature of the rest of the game. It does mix things up a little, though.
I was stuck on that for hours.
Ok, did anyone else laugh at the breakdowns of the villains of the first two cases of Investigations? I know I did.
Hell, from what I've seen, all of the breakdowns in the series are hilarious, simply because of how absurdly over the top they are, Von Karma's in particular. XD
Kristoph's is pretty hilarious, too. CHUNKY LOBSTER UPDRAFT!!! With tousled hair!!
And I love the fact that the Judge had a breakdown at one point...before realizing that he wasn't the one on trial. XD
edited 21st Feb '10 4:13:25 PM by Electivirus
Yeah, most of the Villainous Breakdowns are hilarious.
First thoughts on Investigations's 4th case :
Wait, does this game take place before the main games?
Inbetween/during/before. Continuity Porn, my man.
So far, it's hard to nail down exactly when this takes place, but I'd say some time before Trials and Tribulations case #3 (because of the Tender Lender connection).
And of course, the flashback case happens 7 years before, explicitly a few months before T&T-#4...
I've just finished case #4 of Investigations. While it wasn't very difficult to solve (the final chapter was a complete joke), the ending was unexpected, thanks to some very good misdirection. And so far, this has been the tightest "main plot" I've ever seen in the series. I'm really interested in seeing where it goes from now on.
First thoughts about Case #5 :
[Edit] And now we've just had an explicit reference to T&T case #5 as having happened in the recent past. So this clears up any remaining questions about the timeline : Investigations happens just after Trials & Tribulations. As simple as that.
This means that Viola Cadaverini is still working at Tender Lender after the events of T&T case #3 — or that person's debt is quite old, which is interesting, if a bit unsettling.
edited 23rd Feb '10 11:41:42 PM by Jhiday
I'm working my way deeper into 4-4 and... did Phoenix just break the fifth wall to introduce me, the player, to the MASON system? That's... a bit unnerving.
It will make sense in due course.
I have this to say about Investigations case #5 (which I'm still in the middle of) : I never would have pegged Miles Edgeworth as a Steel Samurai fan.
Well, he did say so to the guy himself. Thinking about it, having it be the reason for his Heel–Face Turn would be pretty hilarious.
Did anyone cry when Kay told everyone she already knew her father was dead? Then she said she wouldn't cry...right before she burst into tears? Then Edgeworth said they were like kindred spirits because he know how she felt, and gave her a handkerchief to blow on...she chose to blow on his cravat instead?
I'm not afraid to admit I freaking cried. That was a tearjerker, moment of heartwarming and moment of funny all rolled in one. I love this game.
Start of the End-1 chapter of case #5 : WHAT ? This had better be Obfuscating Stupidity...
I wasn't fazed by the Middle-3 big reveal that Shin Na was "Callisto Yew"... who was a phony anyway, or even by the truth behind the Yatagarasu. (I've read more than a few stories who used the same trick, so it was my first guess at the start of case #4... though I couldn't figure out why Yew would kill Faraday, so I didn't think it through too much.)
By now, I've pretty much guessed who the Big Bad is (the story went out of its way to indicate that it's neither "Yew" nor Amano, and the Babahlese ambassador doesn't fit... which only leaves one viable suspect). The final struggle should be entertaining (especially as I have no clue WTF is meant to have happened... apart from how they smuggled the statues back and forth).
I liked how someone explained to me that Miles Edgeworth is like the summer blockbuster of Ace Attorney games.
I was honestly surprised that Alba had a voiced "OBJECTION!" Is that normal for a Big Bad in this series? (This is my first Ace Attorney game.)
And, honestly, Alba's Villainous Breakdown may be the only AA breakdown I've seen that is not funny in any way, but rather terrifying...
edited 26th Feb '10 11:49:59 AM by SomeNewGuy
The big bads of games 1 and 4 had voiced objections, but that was because they were lawyers. Investigations doesn't have that excuse.
Alright, finally got to finishing Apollo Justice and... I'm a little underwhelmed to be frank. As far as final trials go 4-4 was kinda meh, especially since pretty much the entire final trial is restating what you learned in the MASON system. The final day of the final trial's when it's all coming together, and you pull your greatest Turnabout, super-objections optional.
That said, the characters were fairly likable, and the music was good * if not OMFGreat , so I can't say I feel cheated. Now if only Investigations would find its way to me :(
edited 26th Feb '10 12:39:26 PM by slowzombie
So apparently that character whose name Ace Attorney Investigations goes out of its way to not mention makes a cameo in case three, according to another site I frequent. Did anybody see him?
You know, even if it really would have had no bearing on the game, I sort of wish Investigations had been set after Apollo Justice's backstory—I feel it would have added a level of poignant subtext to the whole thing.
edited 26th Feb '10 7:19:02 PM by DoKnowButchie
Same here. I would've LOVED to see Edgeworth's reaction to Phoenix's disbarment.
Wait, WHAT ? Didn't catch that. Despite the numerous unnamed cameos in the game (Hello, Winston Payne, the Police Chief, Viola Cadaverini & Lotta Hart !) and gratuitous appearances (seriously, why was Ema Skye even there ?).
Just finished it, and overall I loved it. Though the final confrontation with the Big Bad was interminable. Especially after the already lengthy confrontation with you-know-who. It got nearly tedious towards the end.
While it didn't top the emotional involvement of Trials & Tribulations (what with having a self-contained story), it's still pretty darn good. I loved the way all the cases dovetail into each other.
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