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Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#1151: May 11th 2010 at 8:40:21 AM

It doesn't, apart from a few select cases (such as that one Tasen, and the three Komato scouts). Interestingly in the latter case, in 1.6 the Tasen know you offed them (and like you for it) even if you do it "cleanly", as I did in my zero-kill run.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
MoonlightShadowcat Tasen Fan from Origin Since: May, 2010
Tasen Fan
#1152: May 11th 2010 at 9:03:41 AM

Amazing, cause I did reflect their projectiles at them during the pacifist run. I'm glad the Tasen might be grateful about that.

Interestingly, I spared them on my "kill em all" run cause I just wanted to get Krotera's poster fast (I'm playing both pacifist and one woman army styles at the same time to see which ends up easier)

Meido! Knee-sock! PAD-chou!
Pacific Oh Yeah? from da beach house Since: Jan, 2001
Oh Yeah?
#1153: May 11th 2010 at 9:27:51 AM

That's interesting- I was thinking about how the reflector didn't technically kill people, but I suppose they are still dead, and there's still concequences for that, even if it doesn't count towards your kills.

I've never done a proper aggressor run, I just find jumping over people easier. Also I'd miss out on getting full crack early in the game, which is my preferred setup. It might be worth it just to see all the gameplay I've missed, though.

MoonlightShadowcat Tasen Fan from Origin Since: May, 2010
Tasen Fan
#1154: May 11th 2010 at 11:20:12 AM

So, to get the weapon info, I need to get the Nanomaster rank... that was about 100 successful cracks minus fails.

I got some questions: If I reboot my nanofield 100 times, does that count for nanomaster rank? Also, how do I get immortal rank, was it beating the game with zero damage? And last: are the weapon/enemy information sections complete when you unlock them, or do you have to actually see all enemies weapons?

I mostly am interested in playing the game to unlock those two bonuses more than anything else (and my love for the Tasen) cause I've never been really much of a completionist.

Meido! Knee-sock! PAD-chou!
GoggleFox rrrrrrrrr from Acadia, yo. Since: Jul, 2009
rrrrrrrrr
#1155: May 11th 2010 at 11:29:22 AM

Nanorebooting for crack count: Not anymore.

Sakamoto demands an explanation for this shit.
MoonlightShadowcat Tasen Fan from Origin Since: May, 2010
Tasen Fan
#1156: May 11th 2010 at 11:46:22 AM

What a shame, though thanks, at least I won't waste countless hours on that. (Well, playing Iji is never wasting time IMHO)

Meido! Knee-sock! PAD-chou!
Pacific Oh Yeah? from da beach house Since: Jan, 2001
Oh Yeah?
#1157: May 11th 2010 at 1:49:31 PM

You'll have to get under 100 damage to get immortal rank. It's not too difficult if you know who to avoid and who to fight.

I usually play in level select to experiment with things. Actually, it's the only mode I've played as of recently. It's a good addition, gives the game "pick up and play" value. You can get the weapon viewer without having to see every weapon, but chances are you will have seen them all by that point anyway.

I don't really think I have a preference for either Tasen or Komato, I find them both equally bad. I usually try not to kill either, though. Maybe it's my focus on speed. I tend not to try and kill unless I have to.

Brickman Since: Jan, 2001
#1158: May 11th 2010 at 4:10:29 PM

I think if you kill only the Komato you'll still get the following: Vateilka in sector 7, access to Deep Sector/saving Paiie or whatever her name was, sector 3 truce. And you'll get to avoid killing Krotera. What you won't get is Ansaksie, the null driver, access to the Tasen bunker, and most of the late-game pacifist dialogue. Since by that point it's more about how many Komato you're killing than how many Tasen, the main thing you'll be interested there is the bunker. It makes sense; even if you don't kill a single one the Tasen still can't be 100% sure you're on their side but they can be sure you're killing people right and left.

MoonlightShadowcat Tasen Fan from Origin Since: May, 2010
Tasen Fan
#1159: May 11th 2010 at 5:33:29 PM

I still killed those three komato with the reflector... That's still fair game for a technical pacifist right? (So I guess I can perhaps still see Ansaksie?)

Meido! Knee-sock! PAD-chou!
Brickman Since: Jan, 2001
#1160: May 11th 2010 at 5:53:32 PM

If your kill count is zero, and Paie's girlfriend doesn't die, you'll get Ansaksie and you'll get his gift. Of course kill count can't be zero unless you maintain the truce in level 3 and complete Deep Sector. I'm pretty sure killing the scout team only affects, like, two logbooks.

hnd03 Parasol Star Memories from [REDACTED] Since: Jun, 2009
Parasol Star Memories
#1161: May 11th 2010 at 6:21:33 PM

Brickman, I think you mean Massacre instead of Null Driver. And Ansaksie's a guy.

I really would like to see a selective killing twist. Kill all Tasen or all Komato having different changes.

So. Let's all pause for a moment to smell what the Rock was, is, and forever will be... cooking.—Cave Johnson
Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#1162: May 12th 2010 at 1:10:26 AM

Ansaksie's a "he"? Someone will have to correct the characters page then:

Distaff Counterpart: Of Asha. Word of God says she was made female to distinguish the two.

edited 12th May '10 1:10:43 AM by Medinoc

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Ponicalica from facing Buttercup Since: May, 2010
#1163: May 12th 2010 at 1:15:28 AM

Ansaksie is a she. Brickman made a pronoun error.

the future we had hoped for
GoggleFox rrrrrrrrr from Acadia, yo. Since: Jul, 2009
rrrrrrrrr
#1164: May 12th 2010 at 6:47:11 AM

Unless I'm mistaken you still meet Ansaksie on any pacifist run, total or not. You just don't get the special prize at the end of Sector X unless your kill count is exactly zero.

Sakamoto demands an explanation for this shit.
Ponicalica from facing Buttercup Since: May, 2010
#1165: May 12th 2010 at 6:57:12 AM

Goggle Fox is correct. Though I think you do have to go to Deep Sector, which means leaving the girlfriend in Sector 3 alive.

the future we had hoped for
Brickman Since: Jan, 2001
#1166: May 12th 2010 at 7:06:11 AM

What I meant was that if you do a run in which you only kill the komato, you'll still have racked up enough kills by sector 9 that you probably won't see Ansaksie. But you'll still get into Deep Sector, still save Paiie and Vateilka (at least in the old version. Now that the latter is available to talk to in sector 9 I have no idea what happens to her if you don't), still get Vateilka's store in sector 7, and you'll still get to not call in the Komato. You simply won't get into the bunker and nobody in the endgame will talk to you as if you're a pacifist, because you're clearly not.

hnd03 Parasol Star Memories from [REDACTED] Since: Jun, 2009
Parasol Star Memories
#1167: May 12th 2010 at 5:22:56 PM

Sorry, I meant to say she, but Brickman got it in my head she was a guy.

So. Let's all pause for a moment to smell what the Rock was, is, and forever will be... cooking.—Cave Johnson
Ulti Since: Mar, 2010
#1168: May 16th 2010 at 11:06:42 AM

I wonder if making the characters helmet-less would make the gender distinction problems better or worse.

hnd03 Parasol Star Memories from [REDACTED] Since: Jun, 2009
Parasol Star Memories
#1169: May 16th 2010 at 3:33:03 PM

Well Iosa and Ansaksie's voice clips sound extremely feminine so I don't really see the need to.

So. Let's all pause for a moment to smell what the Rock was, is, and forever will be... cooking.—Cave Johnson
jebuz I've been Bluelinked from Australia Since: Jan, 2001
I've been Bluelinked
#1170: May 16th 2010 at 6:11:02 PM

I think it's fine.

Australia The country with a 2 party system But all the power with independents
Slaanesh Anti-nonsense from Over there Since: Jan, 2010
Anti-nonsense
#1171: May 17th 2010 at 2:04:48 PM

Quick question. Is anyone else unable to go to the site? (Iji's, that is, www.remar.se.)

I wanted to play the newest version, but it just keeps loading then says the page is down.

Oh yes, and what exactly does "Tech all damage" from Nanoreflex do?

edited 17th May '10 2:50:03 PM by Slaanesh

GoggleFox rrrrrrrrr from Acadia, yo. Since: Jul, 2009
rrrrrrrrr
#1172: May 17th 2010 at 2:25:33 PM

Teching prevents you from getting blown back from taking damage. You can do it yourself by hitting C the instant before you get hit. Autoteching does exactly what it sounds like — techs for you.

Sakamoto demands an explanation for this shit.
hnd03 Parasol Star Memories from [REDACTED] Since: Jun, 2009
Parasol Star Memories
#1173: May 17th 2010 at 7:09:14 PM

You still take full damage, but you'll land on your feet. It's nice if you haven't gotten the hang of doing it yourself.

So. Let's all pause for a moment to smell what the Rock was, is, and forever will be... cooking.—Cave Johnson
Brickman Since: Jan, 2001
#1174: May 17th 2010 at 7:59:02 PM

Honestly, even after numerous runs through the game I still haven't gotten the hang of teching. I don't get hit often enough to have gotten enough practice to learn the timing, so I pretty much can't do it ever unless I'm extremely lucky. But I do fully acknowledge how big of an advantage it can be; normally you spend half of your mercy invincibility just falling to the ground, possibly in a position you don't want to be in, and Iji does not walk fast enough that you can afford to spend time moving in a direction you don't want to be while fighting a boss or tough opponent. Especially Tor.

Slaanesh Anti-nonsense from Over there Since: Jan, 2010
Anti-nonsense
#1175: May 17th 2010 at 8:16:39 PM

Another question. How do you get to Cracker's hideout. Not sure if I'm doing this right. All I can figure out is the sector it's in. :p


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