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Galeros Slay foes with bow and arrow Since: Jan, 2001
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#88826: Oct 10th 2022 at 10:38:49 PM

[up]No.tongue

Hard to believe that the anime is back. I hope we get more elaboration on the exact nature of Uryu's Schrift and what exactly happened at the end of the Yhwach's fight with Ichigo's sword.

Edited by Galeros on Oct 10th 2022 at 12:40:23 PM

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#88827: Oct 11th 2022 at 6:15:05 AM

Honestly I get what Kubo was going for in that moment since its a call back to Soul Society

Old Man Zangetsu says only the true form of his blade can defeat him... and Yhwach's sword is pretty much just Zangetsu with an eagle hit

The issue is of course EVERYTHING in the last few chapters is rushed that it feels somewhat nonsensical

Not helped by the fact that Ichigo's fight with Yhwach is built on the lie that Ichigo defeated him the first time so we all KNEW Ichigo was getting his ass kicked its not a Bleach arc till Ichigo gets his ass kicked

Like it just makes Ichigo's NEW bankai pointless and... I'm gonna say Ichigo should have just gotten the Horned Hollow mask White was wearing last time... The one horned look is Fucking stupid

This is an outrage against Luminara!
Rynnec Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#88828: Oct 11th 2022 at 7:08:02 AM

Bleach Brave Souls did have a much better look for a one-horned Ichigo, but in his old Bankai.

uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
It's always Season of the Witch
#88829: Oct 13th 2022 at 11:43:11 AM

So it looks like the official release for the new Bleach anime has been delayed indefinitely in EU countries. Man, Disney really dropped the ball on this.

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#88830: Oct 13th 2022 at 11:58:55 AM

Viz really should have just stuck with Crunchyroll. I get they wanted to make the audience wider, but I feel like they overestimated Disney's competence when it comes to streaming.

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#88831: Oct 13th 2022 at 1:05:34 PM

[up][up]Did they state a reason for it?

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#88832: Oct 13th 2022 at 1:09:58 PM

A good number of V As for Bleach back then are union now and typically don’t do Crunchyroll dubs. So you hear them more in western cartoons now like Laura Bailey, Troy Baker, etc.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Oct 13th 2022 at 1:10:22 AM

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uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
It's always Season of the Witch
#88833: Oct 13th 2022 at 1:26:32 PM

[up][up]Not that I could find. Even customer service just gives vague statements about how "availability may vary".

Its apparently also not available in the majority of Asia and in Latin America.

Edited by uncertanSearcher on Oct 13th 2022 at 10:27:04 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#88834: Oct 15th 2022 at 1:54:46 AM

The Return of the King

Ichigo did not need to flex that hard for some Hollows but he did it for us

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#88835: Oct 17th 2022 at 9:23:31 AM

New opening time. Spoiler warning maybe? tongue

Here's the ending too, which I like more?

Edited by alekos23 on Oct 17th 2022 at 7:24:22 PM

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#88836: Oct 17th 2022 at 9:36:35 AM

Definite spoiler warning on that opening. And not just for small stuff like fights (there's no Uryu vs Hitsugaya or Chad and cat!Yoruichi vs Soi Fon here), but big stuff like Uryu's allegiance, or Squad Zero, or Buckbeard looking like a certain someone.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a second opening for EBTR onwards.

I didn't like the ending. It wasn't really anything besides a bunch of swords sticking out of the ground.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Oct 17th 2022 at 11:43:34 AM

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#88837: Oct 17th 2022 at 10:19:17 AM

Guess who finally made it to the end of the Arrancar arc.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#88838: Oct 17th 2022 at 11:18:56 AM

That comparison of 247 Chapters of Dragon Ball vs. Bleach is the best indictment of Bleach's issues at that point in the manga, jesus.

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#88839: Oct 17th 2022 at 12:00:46 PM

Its one of the biggest reasons I lost interest. Fight fatigue.

I can only take but so much action. And this was on a week to week basis too. It was agoning.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Oct 17th 2022 at 3:05:08 PM

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#88840: Oct 17th 2022 at 12:57:43 PM

None of the Soul Reaper Captain/Lieutenant fights advanced the plot when the gang made their way to Hueco Mundo. None. Not until Ichigo finally made it to Aizen and they proceeded to politely walk into Aizen's sword to clear the way for the finale. I still like Bleach but that's ludicrous. That editor of Kubo's didn't care for Kubo's own intentions for the plot much back then.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#88841: Oct 17th 2022 at 12:59:20 PM

Going by Kubo being told to make the Arrancar Saga longer to focus even more on the Arrancar its pretty telling

Awwww Mark didn't go into the Komamura and Hisagi fight apparently

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 17th 2022 at 12:59:46 PM

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#88842: Oct 17th 2022 at 1:20:16 PM

He makes a very good point in regards to the secondary characters and their fights; most of the fanbase love the secondary cast and the world they inhabit, and to them they only add to the story of Bleach.

But when they start subtracting from the main plot, in this case Ichigo and Co rescuing Orihime, then it becomes a problem. There's nothing about the secondary character's fights that add to the main plot thread. And while that may be interesting to some, its annoying as shit when it feels the main character is a supporting character in his own series and that very much is a problem with Bleach.

Too much time on the secondary cast at the expense of the protagonist and his group, and thus the main plot.

And its funny because he praised One Piece for the opposite; making the secondary characters feel important while never losing track that Luffy is the centerpiece of the series. Its something a lot of Shonen can't do as either its too centered on the protagonist to the exclusion of others or its not centered enough on the protagonist.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#88843: Oct 17th 2022 at 1:28:23 PM

There's One-Punch Man who was pretty bad about it

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uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
It's always Season of the Witch
#88844: Oct 17th 2022 at 1:34:01 PM

The way Bleach chapters are generally constructed to put all the focus on one thing at a time really dosent help with that, it helps dramatic moments when they happen, but it also makes irrelevant events take up way more space then necessary.

One Piece only can really keep up all its various subplots, without completely destroying the pacing because of how content dense its chapters have gotten in recent years.

Edited by uncertanSearcher on Oct 17th 2022 at 10:34:17 AM

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#88845: Oct 17th 2022 at 1:59:11 PM

Bleach and DB have a similar issue where the supporting characters get a lot of page time but don’t often advance the story, meaning their role is, essentially, stalling for time until someone with sufficient PROTAGONIST POWAH gets there to turn the tide.

Bleach is so decompressed that it’s a lot more noticeable here.

Edited by HamburgerTime on Oct 17th 2022 at 3:59:39 AM

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#88846: Oct 17th 2022 at 2:01:06 PM

Bleach supporting character fights sometimes feel like more than progressing the plot, they’re progressing the completion rate of info books

Revealing shikias or bankais so another one can be checked off the list

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#88847: Oct 17th 2022 at 2:07:58 PM

That said, all of the stuff surrounding Ichigo, Orihime, and Aizen was good.

I do remember the second Ichigo came back into the story, suddenly I started to care again.

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WashTheLaundryHero Since: Jun, 2019
#88848: Oct 17th 2022 at 2:25:17 PM

To be honest, Bleach is pretty much a long string of action sequences after a certain point. So much so that I don't even know if it's even fair to criticize. It kinda feels like an intrinsic part of the series at that point,

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#88849: Oct 17th 2022 at 2:28:50 PM

It’s pretty much the end point of all shonen

The current crop of Jump manga are all in phases of arcs that are just a long string of wall to wall fight scenes

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#88850: Oct 17th 2022 at 2:32:48 PM

It's not so much the fights themselves, but what exactly are the fights contributing to the overall story?

That's the problem with Bleach, the fights are self-contained and only matter in the context they happen in as opposed to serving the greater narrative.

Ichigo's fights are the best because, shocker, the protagonist actually has the main narrative throughline for his fights and naturally they carry more weight.

Had Bleach's other fights carried importance towards the plot, theu wouldn't feel anywhere near as dragged.

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