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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#88651: Oct 2nd 2022 at 12:42:00 PM

I caught up to the series around this point, so it only started to annoy me around the fight with Aizen, the pacing that is.

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uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
It's always Season of the Witch
#88652: Oct 2nd 2022 at 12:47:47 PM

Bleach is absolutely a manga that is meant to be read in volume form. Though I will say that the second half of the Arrancar Saga does have a bunch of very genuine problems, even when read in bulk.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#88653: Oct 2nd 2022 at 12:55:01 PM

Mark very rightfully points out how repetitive and formulaic the fights can become in this series in the second half. So it's not pure rainbows btw.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Oct 2nd 2022 at 3:55:10 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#88654: Oct 2nd 2022 at 1:02:04 PM

Ah shonen

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#88655: Oct 2nd 2022 at 1:08:22 PM

Fate unlimited stay feel suffers from having all its material split three different ways

Each of the individual adaptations isn’t entirely the full story on its own and no matter which you look at, there’s going to be characters and concepts that feel underserved or abruptly dropped

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uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
It's always Season of the Witch
#88656: Oct 2nd 2022 at 1:25:47 PM

[up]I think you mixed up your threads there.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#88657: Oct 2nd 2022 at 1:28:14 PM

No I brought it up earlier.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#88658: Oct 2nd 2022 at 3:55:12 PM

Hilariously, Sakura Matou (A character somewhat similar to hime) got a similarly bad rep for poorly adapted material back then too.

Eh, Sakura gets hated on pretty heavily by fans of the original VN too. HF remains contentious.

It's been 15 years since I saw the Bleach anime so I'd totally forgotten about the changes - the manga is much more prevalent in my memory. Damn, that's crazy, the fact that they were changing things so early in is also weird to me - maybe they thought Orihime's antics would be alienating to new viewers or something??

I know they had an IchiRuki bias (as one should) but did they develop it so early that that's what drove the changes?

Honestly it's not just character assassination for Orihime, it also makes Ichigo look like a much worse person.

Orihime: gets hit by a car
Ichigo: "oh shit is the car okay?"

Edited by Saiga on Oct 2nd 2022 at 3:55:21 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#88659: Oct 2nd 2022 at 3:58:59 PM

Eh, Sakura gets hated on pretty heavily by fans of the original VN too. HF remains contentious.

The Anime is where all of the memes came from though.

Part of me doesn't wanna say the Anime staff having an Ichiruki bias drove those changes, but I honestly can't for the life of me think of any other reason they so drastically changed Ichigo and Orihime's characters.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Oct 2nd 2022 at 7:01:30 AM

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#88660: Oct 2nd 2022 at 3:59:38 PM

I haven't even seen the anime and I can safely say that isn't the case

In fact a large amount of the memes I know are about things that weren't adapted in the anime (like calling her wormslut)

Edited by Saiga on Oct 2nd 2022 at 4:00:18 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#88661: Oct 2nd 2022 at 4:02:13 PM

I was talking mostly about the general memes, not the ones surrounding Sakura specifically. I don't even think she does much in the Anime.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#88662: Oct 2nd 2022 at 4:07:19 PM

She does basically nothing in the anime, and her reputation stems mostly from the VN as a result

Rynnec Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#88663: Oct 2nd 2022 at 4:40:11 PM

Yeah, the fandom stuff surrounding Sakura back in the day was gross as fuck.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#88664: Oct 2nd 2022 at 4:46:33 PM

The resident IchiRuki fan agrees that Orihime faced character assassination. That's good. (I know you're not unreasonable, Saiga)

Hmm. I wonder if Diana will have a reaction when she gets to the page about THE HEART.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#88665: Oct 2nd 2022 at 4:46:34 PM

I Ts definitely lessened in recent years. It just just took an entire decade for people to grow the fuck up.

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#88666: Oct 2nd 2022 at 5:19:51 PM

As much as the Narusakus like to complain the anime undermined them for Naruhina 'which isn't actually true... whether the team felt like being Naruhina or Narusaku seemed to be whatever they felt on a whim that day... and hell they'd make Sakura cold blooded in the fillers... Hell Road to Ninja is a giant Narusaku love letter

Its pretty much agreed that the Bleach Anime was run by the most Militant Ichiruki fans who were basically willing to make themselves look like idiots if it meant they could get Kubo to change his mind 'So its the sailor moon adaptation where the producer thought Usagi and Rei should hook up and it SHOWS'

Like... its not just cut/ reworked scenes, Its in the openings and the endings

One of the movies might as well be called "Ichigo loves Rukia"

This is an outrage against Luminara!
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#88667: Oct 2nd 2022 at 5:21:57 PM

Orihime should've gotten an ending on a JITENSHA.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#88669: Oct 2nd 2022 at 5:25:36 PM

Kubo: "Ichigo and Rukia are close, but not romantically interested in each other"

Pierott: "I reject your reality and substitute it with my own"

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#88670: Oct 2nd 2022 at 5:26:30 PM

Well Pierrot is just immature as shit

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#88671: Oct 2nd 2022 at 5:42:49 PM

[up][up] Kubo: How long were you under the illusion...that you had that choice?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#88672: Oct 2nd 2022 at 6:03:09 PM

Oh this is something to look forward to in the anime

The evolution of Buckbeard's glorious mutton chops

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/buckbeard.jpg

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#88673: Oct 2nd 2022 at 6:12:16 PM

Eventually it got so big it covered his body and grew eyes!

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Oct 2nd 2022 at 6:12:27 AM

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#88674: Oct 2nd 2022 at 6:19:44 PM

No wonder he got so powerful.

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Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#88675: Oct 2nd 2022 at 6:31:50 PM

The resident Ichi Ruki fan agrees that Orihime faced character assassination. That's good. (I know you're not unreasonable, Saiga)

Hey, I ship Ichiruki too!


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