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Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#88626: Oct 2nd 2022 at 6:39:59 AM

Yami and Ulquiorra being compared to Nappa and Vegeta is...kinda fitting, actually.

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#88627: Oct 2nd 2022 at 6:43:41 AM

Well, a seal does get used at the end of the arc in a way, if you skip ahead two arcs. [lol]

Rynnec Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#88628: Oct 2nd 2022 at 7:47:27 AM

[up][up]Funny two, since Grimmmjow is clearly the one that's Arrancar Vegeta.

Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#88629: Oct 2nd 2022 at 8:11:33 AM

Yami: Hi, I'm Yami, and this is Ulquiorra. He was a prison—

Ulquiorra: Shut the hell up, Yami.

Yami: ...bitch.

Edited by Diana1969 on Oct 3rd 2022 at 2:11:40 AM

jouXIII The One Who Knows Many Things from Between the Multiverses (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
The One Who Knows Many Things
#88630: Oct 2nd 2022 at 8:26:36 AM

Ulquiorra: Goddammit, Yammy...

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#88631: Oct 2nd 2022 at 10:42:33 AM

Thing is, I could actually see that backstory and conversation happening more with Yammy and Ulqi than I could with Abridged!Nappa and Vegeta.

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Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, bitch!
#88632: Oct 2nd 2022 at 10:50:14 AM

I really liked how Mark understood Orihime, and the fact that she's his second favorite character behind Grimmjow is pretty neat.

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uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
It's always Season of the Witch
#88633: Oct 2nd 2022 at 11:04:10 AM

I only watched the anime very sporadically so I had no idea how much disservice it seemingly did to the characters. Wierd since I never saw much complaining about it outside of the filler arcs.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#88634: Oct 2nd 2022 at 11:12:42 AM

Because most people are gonna watch the Anime first. So that's where their impressions came from. Including me.

I did notice that Orihime has a very different vibe to her in the Manga compared to the Anime. They straight up altered and removed scenes with her from Manga to Anime.

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Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#88635: Oct 2nd 2022 at 11:18:23 AM

What all did they alter or remove?

Grahf Since: Jan, 2001
#88636: Oct 2nd 2022 at 12:12:31 PM

This is a pretty good twitter thread summarizing the differences between the manga and the anime in terms of Orihime: https://twitter.com/SunHime_/status/1346563110799368193

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#88637: Oct 2nd 2022 at 12:17:00 PM

Well, I don't think it was ever a secret the anime was pro Ichi Rukia. Didn't know it apparently started that early though.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#88638: Oct 2nd 2022 at 12:18:23 PM

It took ten whole years for Orihime to shake off the slander, proud of her.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#88639: Oct 2nd 2022 at 12:20:21 PM

Jesus that sucks if you liked Orihime and expected the anime to get her character right.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#88640: Oct 2nd 2022 at 12:20:22 PM

Between one of my favorite streamers validating that Sonic Heroes is a great game and now Mark validating my love and understanding of Bleach, my younger self would be smiling off his face right about now.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#88641: Oct 2nd 2022 at 12:20:56 PM

[up]As someone who's okay with Sonic Heroes, who did that?

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#88642: Oct 2nd 2022 at 12:24:15 PM

Geez, didn’t realize there were so many differences like that

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#88644: Oct 2nd 2022 at 12:25:41 PM

It's not even just any one streamer. It seems like it's just the case that a lot of the Sonic "fanbase" is uniformly toxic to the console games for about 10 years, then suddenly realize "it wasn't that bad". The vocal fanbase just spent like 15 years of excessive toxicity that it's only starting to emerge from.
...I can't wait for the day when people admit Forces' worst flaw was really just "the levels are too short."

As an Orihime and Hinata fan, I guess now with Orihime I know what it's like when the animation team doesn't favor your Stephanie Sheh-voiced love interest.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#88645: Oct 2nd 2022 at 12:26:33 PM

Sonic Heroes is ok...

But yea, that was probably one of the contributing factors as why Orihime was so hated...because the Anime literally gutted all of the depth out of the character. So her sudden shift to the spotlight feels abrupt and redundant given how the story had just finished a Rescue Arc with Rukia.

Pierrot literally set her up to fail, that's fucked up. Just goes to show how no matter how prettier an Anime is, it's still merely an adaptation of someone else's work and its very easy to misinterpret someone else's work when adapting it to another medium.

I kind of get Mark's insistence on reading manga over watching Anime.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Oct 2nd 2022 at 3:27:41 PM

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Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#88646: Oct 2nd 2022 at 12:27:39 PM

This is a pretty good twitter thread summarizing the differences between the manga and the anime in terms of Orihime: https://twitter.com/SunHime_/status/1346563110799368193

Well fucking shit, that's not just a poor adaptation, that's borderline assassinating her character.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#88647: Oct 2nd 2022 at 12:29:23 PM

Now imagine how it must've been for an Orihime fan in the mid 2000's when the Anime was the main way people engaged with Bleach.

Hilariously, Sakura Matou (A character somewhat similar to hime) got a similarly bad rep for poorly adapted material back then too.

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uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
It's always Season of the Witch
#88648: Oct 2nd 2022 at 12:29:34 PM

I never found that there was any drop in quality between the first half of the Arrancar Saga and Soul Society. So it was very vindicating to see Mark share that sentiment.

And holy shit, just the utter disrespect the anime seemed to have for Orihime. Like they where determened to make her the most generic girl character imaginable.

Edited by uncertanSearcher on Oct 2nd 2022 at 9:39:08 PM

AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#88649: Oct 2nd 2022 at 12:33:10 PM

And its not the first time it happens. In Yu Yu Hakusho Keiko had lots of cool scenes that were skipped, removed or downplayed by the anime.

And surprise surprise its done the same guy no less. Noriyuki Abe.

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Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#88650: Oct 2nd 2022 at 12:38:46 PM

I never found that there was any drop in quality between the first half of the Arrancar Saga and Soul Society. So it was very vindicating to see Mark share that sentiment.

I'll admit that, in my readthrough, the arc so far doesn't feel *as* great as Soul Society, but it's not a huge drop in quality like what I had been told. It's still pretty darn good.


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