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Sledgesaul Since: Oct, 2011
#65401: Jul 10th 2014 at 12:44:25 PM

And that's another thing. We have no idea who these people are. We don't know how they became Sternritter, why they became Sternritter, what happened before they became Sternritter - we no no motivation or backstory whatsoever, barring maybe As Nodt.

edited 10th Jul '14 12:50:34 PM by Sledgesaul

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#65402: Jul 10th 2014 at 12:47:43 PM

Crowner to top of page again.

^ We should have gotten more of that, yeah, at the very least for guys like Mask. I suppose Kubo could be waiting until the last few Sternritter before using that angle.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#65403: Jul 10th 2014 at 12:48:35 PM

Pssst, Arha... how much for setting results up the way I want it? tongue

I guess I feel a bit sympathetic towards Bambi is because I believe that the retribution karmic, or otherwise shouldn't be worse than the crimes. If she was just straight up killed in combat I wouldn't feel bad for her, but since this is much worse I kinda do.

[up][up]Oh yeah, right now Sternritters are just bunch of one-dimensional bad guys who do evil things because they are evil.

From what little we heard of their back-stories they weren't even quincies until Bach found them so it's not like they are even doing it for revenge.

edited 10th Jul '14 12:50:41 PM by Shlugo_the_great

Sledgesaul Since: Oct, 2011
#65404: Jul 10th 2014 at 12:51:12 PM

I'm not even saying you're wrong for choosing not to sympathize or pity Bambietta. I just disagree with it, because I really don't like seeing another human being treated that way by one of her supposed friends. Even for Bambietta. I think there was enough karma in her defeat by Komamura.

Hell, I'll even go as far to say that I'm willing to forgive Bambietta (and any other Sternritter, for that matter) if she was given a second chance. Basically, these are Quincies - the human subspecies, yet they're acting even more depraved than the Hollows. I'd like some Gray in the Black.

edited 10th Jul '14 1:19:59 PM by Sledgesaul

KBSL Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#65405: Jul 10th 2014 at 12:55:35 PM

On the whole "reeks of semen" thing, chances are that might not have been meant to be taken literally. Japanese is a very idiomatic language, and an expression like that could probably be used to mean something like Giselle has the essences of a man or something. I suppose only a native would really be able to tell if it was supposed to be taken literally or not if it wasn't obvious in context.

Bloodsquirrel Since: May, 2011
#65406: Jul 10th 2014 at 1:10:07 PM

I don't expect detailed back stories and complex reasons for every Sternritter, but at least a general sense of why people would want to join this organization would be nice. A goal that they're trying to accomplish with this war that they could reasonably share would work.

KBSL Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#65407: Jul 10th 2014 at 1:19:15 PM

[up]Yeah, at the very least I expect that from Haschwalth and maybe Askin and Bazz-B.

Sledgesaul Since: Oct, 2011
#65408: Jul 10th 2014 at 1:19:19 PM

All the little things have been ignored so far. Why was As Nodt in that hospital bed? Why does Bambietta kill hunks specifically when she's angry? Why does Giselle adore zombies so much? Why is Liltotto so much of a glutton? Who in the fuck is James?

Whereas, with the Arrancar, they all have one basic backstory - they're Hollows. They act this way because it's a dog eat dog world. With the Sternritter, their loyalty (or lack thereof) has never been explained. Haschwalth seems to be a defeatist who's resigned to his fate, the Femritters want a reward, Bambietta seems to be the Kenpachi of the clique, and As Nodt owes his life to Yhwach, but that's about it.

edited 10th Jul '14 1:21:02 PM by Sledgesaul

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#65409: Jul 10th 2014 at 1:22:55 PM

It doesn't matter why As Nodt was in the hospital bed. He was in some kind of accident given that he's covered in burns and wounds that almost look like autopsy scars, does it matter what kind of accident it was?

Sledgesaul Since: Oct, 2011
#65410: Jul 10th 2014 at 1:27:33 PM

Yhwach could have specifically arranged for a hit on As Nodt's life to see if he would survive.

edited 10th Jul '14 1:29:09 PM by Sledgesaul

Bloodsquirrel Since: May, 2011
#65411: Jul 10th 2014 at 1:33:24 PM

What made the Arrancar superior as a group concept is that they felt as much like the unstable group that a bunch of inherently selfish beings brought together by one powerful man under threat of force would be. There really wasn't any pretense that the Espada could or would function as an organization outside of Aizen forcing them to. We saw Aizen demonstrate his authority to keep them in line, but we also saw that he wasn't going to stop them from infighting altogether. There was an underlying tension to them, and stuff like Stark want to fake his fight and Barriagan using his last act to attack Aizen showed where the edges of their loyalties to him were.

edited 10th Jul '14 1:34:04 PM by Bloodsquirrel

Sledgesaul Since: Oct, 2011
#65412: Jul 10th 2014 at 1:35:19 PM

Oh, here's another thing that should have happened - we should have gotten more time to learn about the Sternritters' relationships with one another. Maybe show that Bambietta cares about the Fem Ritters and sees them as friends, in her own bizarre Tsundere Psychobitch way.

That way, Giselle's betrayal of her would have more impact. We know next to nothing about how they think of her and how she thinks of them (apart from vague hints that she likes them without them feeling the same). The effect already hit me, for reason I've already stated, with or without the extra character interaction, but character interaction would have made things more intriguing.

edited 10th Jul '14 1:37:54 PM by Sledgesaul

OdieFromTheOZ KING OF EXPLODO KILLS from Shadow Mosses Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
KING OF EXPLODO KILLS
#65413: Jul 10th 2014 at 5:45:26 PM

[up][up]The Espada also felt more organic, at least too me. The Sternrittner just sort of show up, with little setup or foreshadowing. The Espada felt like the natural conclusion of hollows, and you could argue they had been the end result of Ichigo's hollow form. I can also name a handful of the espada, and some I'd like to see again. The only sternrittner I really like is Bazz B and Mask, mainly because they're kind of goofy. Hell, the big trick of Uryuu being on the Sternrittner's side isn't even as interesting as Orihime being on the Espada's side, since Uryuu suuuuuuuuuuuucks.

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Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#65414: Jul 10th 2014 at 6:46:05 PM

Nope, as you often do, you're ignoring anything that doesn't support your opinion.

It's a fact that Yhwach punishes in-fighting with death. It's a fact that all the others defer to his orders. Why the Vandenreich hasn't imploded yet? Because Yhwach keeps the wilder members from going at each other's throats. It's a fact that we've only seen 1 Wandenreich quincy kill another Vandenreich Quincy, and that was at the behest of Yhwach.

Looking at the scene with Bazz-B, he clearly didn't want to kill them or killing them wasn't a priority. We see that when he really wants to do damage to someone, he uses Burner Finger 2, not 1.

These are facts. Facty facts. Facts that fact so hard. Fact.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#65415: Jul 10th 2014 at 7:37:43 PM

I'm pretty upset over Zombietta. sad

Welp, that's what I get for being an empath.

edited 10th Jul '14 7:38:00 PM by Serocco

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#65416: Jul 10th 2014 at 8:29:36 PM

By the way, when Giselle dies, and Zombietta follows suit, that also means Candice will lose her new arm.

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#65417: Jul 10th 2014 at 8:30:28 PM

Not necessarily. You can't just assume there's No Ontological Inertia for something that hasn't happened yet and may never happen.

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KBSL Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#65418: Jul 10th 2014 at 8:38:11 PM

Yeah for all we know Giselle dying could just turn Bambietta back to normal. I have to say though, I would find it funny if Candice is fighting and then her arm all of a sudden starts to decay and then she gets hit by an attack while she's freaking out. Kubo seems to like trolling her so why not.

Diamite Rainy Echoes Since: Jul, 2013
Rainy Echoes
#65419: Jul 10th 2014 at 9:22:36 PM

When you say normal, do you mean "Perfectly healthy" normal, or "Still on the verge of death" normal?tongue

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#65420: Jul 10th 2014 at 9:26:31 PM

I can picture it right here. Candice would have (for example) Hisagi on the ropes, she winds up her thunderbolt arm, plunges it toward his head... and then her arm is gone. Cue awkward silence.

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#65421: Jul 10th 2014 at 9:30:08 PM

No, better yet, Hisagi gets showered with bits of dead soul reaper face. Eyeballs shower down on him from Candice's new stump.

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#65422: Jul 10th 2014 at 9:31:24 PM

uhhh.....?

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#65423: Jul 10th 2014 at 9:39:52 PM

Giselle turned the corpses of red shirts into Candice's new arm, didn't she? More or less.

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#65424: Jul 11th 2014 at 6:20:10 AM

Gremmy is the cover character for Volume 64. This displeases us.

待望のJC最新64巻、8月4日発売ッ!! 表紙は、剣八との激闘を演じたグレミィ!!

"Jump Comics latest, the long-awaited volume 64 on sale August 4!!"

"The cover, Gremmy, who played a part in the fierce fighting with the Kenpachi!!"

edited 11th Jul '14 6:21:16 AM by Cruherrx

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
KBSL Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#65425: Jul 11th 2014 at 6:21:57 AM

Not really surprising though.


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