Oh man, I just went hopping through the archives
And I just remembered how much I love Pan and Yala.
Surprisingly emotional for what are essentially one off characters.
edited 13th May '13 5:06:24 PM by Deathonabun
One of my few regrets about being born female is the inability to grow a handlebar mustache. -LandstanderThe other monster adventuring party will show up to save the GAP from Kore, having all become epic level badasses since they parted ways
In other news, what would ya'll say Psimax's alignment is? The character listing in the trope page puts him as True Neutral but that really doesn't seem to fit very well...
edited 14th May '13 12:58:49 AM by Eagal
Nah, I think True Neutral fits.
I wouldn't necessarily say he's evil, given that he honestly believes that what he's doing is for the good of everyone in the maze. Of course, he's also incredibly self absorbed and can't see that everyone else wants to exist.
One of my few regrets about being born female is the inability to grow a handlebar mustache. -LandstanderThe character page shouldn't speculate about alignment if we don't know what it is canonically. That's an explicit rule. Psimax could be seen as True Neutral but I'd call him evil — he's acting out of a fundamentally selfish desire to end his own perceived suffering, at the cost of the lives of every other being in the Maze of Many.
He's a crossover between Omnicidal Maniac and Put Them All Out of My Misery.
edited 14th May '13 5:40:22 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"We have a trope for that—Omnicidal Neutral. That's why the character page lists him as "True Neutral" (complete with quotes). He thinks he's True Neutral, but no one else agrees with him.
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.What's worse, he thinks that the reason everyone disagrees with him is merely due to being unenlightened about the oppression of the system - or perhaps that wanting to live itself is a fault of the system itself - so he's pretty much entirely tautological yet at the same times thinks he's doing everyone a favor.
Is being overtly void of traditional alignment the same as being Neutral, even if one's actions are genocidal and twisted?
edited 14th May '13 3:43:28 PM by KnownUnknown
No, it just means the 'traditional' alignment system is broken. Which is nothing new, really.
ERROR: The current state of the world is unacceptable. Save anyway? YES/NOWe just need more axes than good/evil, lawful/chaotic. We need introverted/extroverted freelance/devotion-to-a-cause, cheese/chalk, just/merciful, and so on.
If you want any of my avatars, just Pm me I'd truly appreciate any avatar of a reptile sleeping in a Nice Hat Read Elmer Kelton booksHence why even D&D freely says that personality is not summed up by alignment and that alignment isn't a straightjacket. But everyone does like to try fit things into neat little boxes.
| Wandering, but not lost. | If people bring so much courage to this world...◊ |Or it could just be no morality system, and you get powers depending on what god you worship, and you follow their rules.
Read my stories!Then don't use them at all! :D
...or, if you're going to insist on a mechanically-enforced system of simple categories, you might as well use categories that actually are simple. <_< (I have some ideas!
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We know that Goblins does use alignment, though. So speculation for or against is kind of pointless.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!">But everyone does like to try fit things into neat little boxes.
Did you even see what site you're on?
>We know that Goblins does use alignment, though. So speculation for or against is kind of pointless.
Thunt also blows away the straitjacket. See Kore, who is still a Paladin and thus LG despite all the shit he does.
I'd peg Psymax as Evil because Evil isn't just giggling villainy, it is also selfishness. He wants to utterly cease to exist, so he does what he wants for himself and doesn't care if anybody gets dragged along.
edited 15th May '13 9:52:48 AM by Adannor
Kore may be a Paladin, but there is strong evidence that he is not actually Lawful Good; he seems to be coercing or stealing his powers in some way.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"There's at least one paladin prestige class designed for the Knight Templar archetype, where you get to keep your powers as long as you can justify your actions to your DM. That sounds exactly like the kind of thing Thunt would use.
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.Did you even see what site you're on?
Yeah, I'm all too aware of where I've spent a huge portion of my internet time during the last 5 1/2 years or so.
(Note: very much meant to be a tongue in cheek comment, not a rebuke, and I hope it didn't come across as such.)
However I do think people get in the habit of taking it too far when it comes to trying to categorize that sort of thing. They get so caught up thinking that an alignment means one thing, and only one thing, that they start to exclude perfectly valid examples that don't fit their notions, while trying to shoehorn others in because it bears a resemblence to their preconceived notions, even though it doesn't really fit, ala Square Peg Round Trope.
And I do think it does some good for people to be reminded of that and to try to stretch their minds a bit when it comes to those matters.
edited 15th May '13 12:48:47 PM by TheWanderer
| Wandering, but not lost. | If people bring so much courage to this world...◊ |Categorising people is at best misleading and more often than not actively harmful. People who do that are bad.
ERROR: The current state of the world is unacceptable. Save anyway? YES/NO

Cool, Maybe Kin will take Diehard for her next feat.
They assed first. I am only retaliating in an ass way. -The Dead Man's Life