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mrsaturn Youkai Serious Since: Jan, 2001
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#3876: May 13th 2013 at 8:00:44 AM

Cool, Maybe Kin will take Diehard for her next feat.

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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#3877: May 13th 2013 at 8:45:40 AM

It looks like she already has.

Shinziril Since: Feb, 2011
#3878: May 13th 2013 at 9:04:09 AM

Almost everyone in Thunt's universe seems to be capable of acting and moving while at negative hit points, at least a little. This is presumably one of his various house rules.

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#3879: May 13th 2013 at 11:09:45 AM

Why does the background behind Kin keep changing? What's going on back there?

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Adannor (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#3880: May 13th 2013 at 11:13:36 AM

I don't see any changes. First three panels are all the same, following have perspective changes as the "camera" zooms in on her.

edited 13th May '13 11:14:17 AM by Adannor

Deathonabun Bunny from the bedroom Since: Jan, 2001
Bunny
#3881: May 13th 2013 at 5:00:40 PM

Oh man, I just went hopping through the archives

And I just remembered how much I love Pan and Yala.

Surprisingly emotional for what are essentially one off characters.

edited 13th May '13 5:06:24 PM by Deathonabun

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#3882: May 13th 2013 at 10:00:13 PM

Having like a one-off comic with those two and the rest of the other monster adventuring party would be pretty sweet.

Edit: Derp. I've read through that storyline like three times and I swear this is the first time I noticed Yala was a woman.

edited 13th May '13 10:06:06 PM by KnownUnknown

Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#3883: May 14th 2013 at 12:12:26 AM

wild mass guessThe other monster adventuring party will show up to save the GAP from Kore, having all become epic level badasses since they parted wayswild mass guess [lol]

In other news, what would ya'll say Psimax's alignment is? The character listing in the trope page puts him as True Neutral but that really doesn't seem to fit very well...

edited 14th May '13 12:58:49 AM by Eagal

Deathonabun Bunny from the bedroom Since: Jan, 2001
Bunny
#3884: May 14th 2013 at 4:41:35 AM

Nah, I think True Neutral fits.

I wouldn't necessarily say he's evil, given that he honestly believes that what he's doing is for the good of everyone in the maze. Of course, he's also incredibly self absorbed and can't see that everyone else wants to exist.

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#3885: May 14th 2013 at 5:39:02 AM

The character page shouldn't speculate about alignment if we don't know what it is canonically. That's an explicit rule. Psimax could be seen as True Neutral but I'd call him evil — he's acting out of a fundamentally selfish desire to end his own perceived suffering, at the cost of the lives of every other being in the Maze of Many.

He's a crossover between Omnicidal Maniac and Put Them All Out of My Misery.

edited 14th May '13 5:40:22 AM by Fighteer

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#3886: May 14th 2013 at 8:17:46 AM

We have a trope for that—Omnicidal Neutral. That's why the character page lists him as "True Neutral" (complete with quotes). He thinks he's True Neutral, but no one else agrees with him.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#3887: May 14th 2013 at 3:37:52 PM

What's worse, he thinks that the reason everyone disagrees with him is merely due to being unenlightened about the oppression of the system - or perhaps that wanting to live itself is a fault of the system itself - so he's pretty much entirely tautological yet at the same times thinks he's doing everyone a favor.

Is being overtly void of traditional alignment the same as being Neutral, even if one's actions are genocidal and twisted?

edited 14th May '13 3:43:28 PM by KnownUnknown

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ATC Was Aliroz the Confused from The Library of Kiev Since: Sep, 2011
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#3889: May 14th 2013 at 5:41:53 PM

We just need more axes than good/evil, lawful/chaotic. We need introverted/extroverted freelance/devotion-to-a-cause, cheese/chalk, just/merciful, and so on.

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#3890: May 14th 2013 at 5:45:20 PM

Yeah, but then it takes two hours to explain what your alignment is. Unless everyone just goes "Fuck it, I'm neutral everything but two axes," which seems like it would develop its own accuracy problems.

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Student of Story
#3891: May 14th 2013 at 5:46:47 PM

Hence why even D&D freely says that personality is not summed up by alignment and that alignment isn't a straightjacket. But everyone does like to try fit things into neat little boxes.

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Ahr river
#3892: May 14th 2013 at 5:47:54 PM

Or it could just be no morality system, and you get powers depending on what god you worship, and you follow their rules.

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we must dissent (it/they)
#3893: May 14th 2013 at 5:50:41 PM

Then don't use them at all! :D

...or, if you're going to insist on a mechanically-enforced system of simple categories, you might as well use categories that actually are simple. <_< (I have some ideas!)

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#3894: May 14th 2013 at 6:15:37 PM

We know that Goblins does use alignment, though. So speculation for or against is kind of pointless.

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Adannor (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#3895: May 15th 2013 at 9:46:37 AM

>But everyone does like to try fit things into neat little boxes.

Did you even see what site you're on?

>We know that Goblins does use alignment, though. So speculation for or against is kind of pointless.

Thunt also blows away the straitjacket. See Kore, who is still a Paladin and thus LG despite all the shit he does.

I'd peg Psymax as Evil because Evil isn't just giggling villainy, it is also selfishness. He wants to utterly cease to exist, so he does what he wants for himself and doesn't care if anybody gets dragged along.

edited 15th May '13 9:52:48 AM by Adannor

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#3896: May 15th 2013 at 10:23:07 AM

Kore may be a Paladin, but there is strong evidence that he is not actually Lawful Good; he seems to be coercing or stealing his powers in some way.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#3897: May 15th 2013 at 11:08:54 AM

There's at least one paladin prestige class designed for the Knight Templar archetype, where you get to keep your powers as long as you can justify your actions to your DM. That sounds exactly like the kind of thing Thunt would use.

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rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#3898: May 15th 2013 at 12:44:19 PM

The Grey Guard, you mean? They still have to have someone cast atonement on them to de-fall, it just doesn't cost the caster XP if the falling was for the cause of great justice.

Of course, Thunt's world is house-ruled all to hell, so it's hard to figure out the mechanics of things.

TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#3899: May 15th 2013 at 12:47:09 PM

But everyone does like to try fit things into neat little boxes.

Did you even see what site you're on?

Yeah, I'm all too aware of where I've spent a huge portion of my internet time during the last 5 1/2 years or so. tongue (Note: very much meant to be a tongue in cheek comment, not a rebuke, and I hope it didn't come across as such.)

However I do think people get in the habit of taking it too far when it comes to trying to categorize that sort of thing. They get so caught up thinking that an alignment means one thing, and only one thing, that they start to exclude perfectly valid examples that don't fit their notions, while trying to shoehorn others in because it bears a resemblence to their preconceived notions, even though it doesn't really fit, ala Square Peg Round Trope.

And I do think it does some good for people to be reminded of that and to try to stretch their minds a bit when it comes to those matters.

edited 15th May '13 12:48:47 PM by TheWanderer

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#3900: May 15th 2013 at 11:31:28 PM

Categorising people is at best misleading and more often than not actively harmful. People who do that are bad.

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