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GoggleFox rrrrrrrrr from Acadia, yo. Since: Jul, 2009
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#351: Sep 22nd 2009 at 10:00:08 AM

Zyxzy: This was freaking Black Jack. The answer is hell yes!

Sakamoto demands an explanation for this shit.
ShayGuy Since: Jan, 2001
#352: Sep 22nd 2009 at 11:52:10 AM

It's in one of the first two volumes. This says it's the first, but I don't know if the order's different in the new version.

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#353: Sep 22nd 2009 at 12:42:51 PM

I have the deluxe edition vol. 0-2 right here. It's in vol. 1, sixth story "The encounter".

And also, it's not just the fallopian tubes, of course: It's the whole girly parts.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
FreezairForALimitedTime Responsible adult from Planet Claire Since: Jan, 2001
Responsible adult
#354: Sep 22nd 2009 at 1:14:47 PM

Does no one in the world know the meaning of the word "Chromosones?"

"Proto-Indo-European makes the damnedest words related. It's great. It's the Kevin Bacon of etymology." ~Madrugada
Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#355: Sep 22nd 2009 at 1:41:26 PM

I think they prefer the word "hormones", which is shorter.

It's like chromosomes merely determine which hormones you get while you're whole, and losing any important part makes you get the opposite hormones for some reason.

edited 22nd Sep '09 1:42:38 PM by Medinoc

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Nornagest Since: Jan, 2001
#356: Sep 22nd 2009 at 6:07:17 PM

It's like chromosomes merely determine which hormones you get while you're whole, and losing any important part makes you get the opposite hormones for some reason.

Well, that's half right. Morphogenesis is a pretty complicated process, but your sex-linked genetics only determine how your body develops and certain points of protein synthesis; a lot, in fact almost all, of what differentiates you sexually as an adult is regulated by hormones. Several intersex conditions, up to and including the complete external phenotype of the chromosomally wrong sex, are caused by insensitivity (or hypersensitivity) to those hormones.

Now, most sex-determining hormones are secreted by the gonads or glands near them. Lose those organs, and without hormone replacement you eventually lose much of your sex's phenotype. That doesn't mean you'll sprout body hair as a woman or breasts as a man, though, since the opposite sex-determining hormones are usually secreted by the same organs (in different levels); instead, some of your existing secondary sex characteristics will become less prominent.

edited 22nd Sep '09 6:12:51 PM by Nornagest

I will keep my soul in a place out of sight, Far off, where the pulse of it is not heard.
Zyxzy Embrace the mindscrew from Salem, OR Since: Jan, 2001
Embrace the mindscrew
#357: Sep 22nd 2009 at 6:09:10 PM

So, on a scale of bullshit, just how many fields can we fertilize with this?

What's the frequency Kenneth?|In case of war.
Wraith_Magus Bibliophiliac Since: Jun, 2009
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#358: Sep 22nd 2009 at 6:12:48 PM

Amusingly, people do get the opposite gender's hormones, just not as much as they would get if they actually were the opposite gender. I'm pretty sure the female sex drive is reliant upon a woman having testosterone, for example.

Still, I think they get those hormones in the same place, so if you cut out the gland for one gender's hormone, you're probably cutting out both genders' hormones.

edit: Totally ninja'd by a better explanation by Nornageist

edited 22nd Sep '09 6:14:23 PM by Wraith_Magus

Nornagest Since: Jan, 2001
#359: Sep 22nd 2009 at 6:13:25 PM

Ninja'd; disregard, please.

edited 22nd Sep '09 6:15:32 PM by Nornagest

I will keep my soul in a place out of sight, Far off, where the pulse of it is not heard.
Miijhal Since: Jul, 2011
#360: Sep 22nd 2009 at 7:42:19 PM

To further add to the wonderful bullshit level, removing the testes will not make your voice raise. Not even doses of estrogen will do that. It will prevent you from having your voice lower in the future if you've yet to or are still undergoing puberty, but it won't do jack afterward.

edited 22nd Sep '09 7:44:12 PM by Miijhal

GoggleFox rrrrrrrrr from Acadia, yo. Since: Jul, 2009
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#361: Sep 22nd 2009 at 7:43:31 PM

From what I've read, only voice training or certain surgeries can do anything to raise the pitch of one's voice.

Sakamoto demands an explanation for this shit.
Miijhal Since: Jul, 2011
#362: Sep 22nd 2009 at 7:44:54 PM

Yep. I wish estrogen could do that.

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#363: Sep 23rd 2009 at 12:42:58 AM

If Tex Avery taught me anything, being shrunk also raises the pitch of your voice.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#364: Sep 23rd 2009 at 6:16:15 AM

By the way, Wraith Magus, you were wrong about your measurements: A 1,000 by 1,000 mile(s?) area is only about the size of Sudan or Kazakhstan;The USA are 3,794,066 square miles.

Also a billion cubic miles is only a 1,000 by 1,000 by 1,000 mile(s?) cube, and the earth's mean radius is about 4,000 miles.

edited 23rd Sep '09 6:16:43 AM by Medinoc

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Wraith_Magus Bibliophiliac Since: Jun, 2009
Bibliophiliac
#365: Sep 23rd 2009 at 6:56:48 AM

I didn't want to interrupt my reading, so I wasn't sure about the square miles one...

However, in the cubic miles, I said to limit the "height" to 1 mile, and wrap it around the globe as a hollow (hemi?)sphere (no point giving hallucinations to the mantle of the planet). Doing that with a surface area of 100,000,000 square miles. That is theoretically in the ballpark to start covering an entire planet. Maybe if you "squished" it a little thinner, and tapered it to changes in elevation, or just skipped the oceans.

ShayGuy Since: Jan, 2001
#366: Sep 23rd 2009 at 10:14:00 AM

The radius of the earth is 3963.1676 miles. That gives an approximate surface area of 197 million square miles. More rough approximation suggests that a 1-mile-thick shell would be about 197 million cubic miles. We're in that order of magnitude.

Wraith_Magus Bibliophiliac Since: Jun, 2009
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#367: Sep 23rd 2009 at 10:39:57 AM

OK, then you could cover the Earth if you limit it to a hollow sphere only half a mile above the surface to the surface, or if you just didn't cover the oceans.

Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
DUMB
#368: Sep 23rd 2009 at 10:41:36 AM

Wait, what? What does that have to do with FATAL? Where's the rape?

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Haven Planescape Hijack Since: Jan, 2001
Planescape Hijack
#369: Sep 23rd 2009 at 10:42:41 AM

Well, it's forcing something on something else?

Productivity is for people without internet connections. -Count Dorku
Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
Wraith_Magus Bibliophiliac Since: Jun, 2009
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#371: Sep 23rd 2009 at 10:58:26 AM

...so the sphere is raping the Earth...?

*PFFT!* Haha! I like that.

Anyway, who knows, it's just any kind of illusion spell, so you could theoretically make it world-wide Naughty Tentacles.

Bah, but to get back to the subject at hand, I'm not even sure how to tackle this next chapter. It's huge, and the magic is astoundingly stupid. I guess I'm going to have to break this down into A-E or something.

VampireBuddha Calendar enthusiast from Ireland (Wise, aged troper) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Calendar enthusiast
#372: Sep 23rd 2009 at 1:41:55 PM

After ignoring it for so long, I just read this entire thread over two days. J Bridge, Wraith, you guys are awesome. Wraith, I can tell you're suffering here, so if there's any way I can repay you for all this entertainment, don't hesitate to ask.

Somewhat off-topic...

(why do I know this) The original comic is from an old webcomic.

Actually, the origin of the image in question is this, from here, courtest of none other than Jack Chick.

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FreezairForALimitedTime Responsible adult from Planet Claire Since: Jan, 2001
Responsible adult
#373: Sep 23rd 2009 at 1:53:23 PM

Just astoundingly stupid or astoundingly stupid even by the standards of FATAL?

Because the second really would be a sight to see.

"Proto-Indo-European makes the damnedest words related. It's great. It's the Kevin Bacon of etymology." ~Madrugada
Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
DUMB
#374: Sep 23rd 2009 at 2:05:02 PM

Uh... no, Vampire Buddha. It's even mentioned in the ED article - and if we can't trust ED, who can we trust?

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Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#375: Sep 23rd 2009 at 2:41:33 PM

Everyone?

You can't even write racist abuse in excrement on somebody's car without the politically correct brigade jumping down your throat!

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