TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

Subpages cleanup: Complete Monster

Go To

During the investigation of recent hollers in the Complete Monster thread, it's become apparent to the staff that an insular, unfriendly culture has evolved in the Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard threads that is causing problems.

Specific issues include:

  • Overzealous hollers on tropers who come into the threads without being familiar with all the rules and traditions of the tropes. And when they are familiar with said rules and traditions, they get accused (with little evidence) of being ban evaders.
  • A few tropers in the thread habitually engage in snotty, impolite mini-modding. There are also regular complaints about excessive, offtopic "socializing" posts.
  • Many many thread regulars barely post/edit anywhere else, making the threads look like they are divorced from the rest of TV Tropes.
  • Following that, there are often complaints about the threads and their regulars violating wiki rules, such as on indexing, crosswicking, example context and example categorization. Some folks are working on resolving the issues, but...
  • Often moderator action against thread regulars leads to a lot of participants suddenly showing up in the moderation threads to protest and speak on their behalf, like a clique.

It is not a super high level problem, but it has been going on for years and we cannot ignore it any longer. There will be a thread in Wiki Talk to discuss the problem; in the meantime there is a moratorium on further Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard example discussion until we have gotten this sorted out.

Update: The new threads have been made and can be found here:

     Previous Post 
Complete Monster Cleanup Thread

Please see the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List before suggesting any new entries for this trope.

IMPORTANT: To avoid a holler to the mods, please see here for the earliest date a work can be discussed, (usually two weeks from the US release), as well as who's reserved discussion.

When voting, you must specify the candidate(s). No blanket votes (i.e. "[tup] to everyone I missed").

No plagiarism: It's fair to source things, but an effortpost must be your own work and not lifted wholesale from another source.

We don't care what other sites think about a character being a Complete Monster. We judge this trope by our own criteria. Repeatedly attempting to bring up other sites will earn a suspension.

What is the Work

Here you briefly describe the work in question and explain any important setting details. Don't assume that everyone is familiar with the work in question.

Who is the Candidate and What have they Done?

This will be the main portion of the Effort Post. Here you list all of the crimes committed by the candidate. For candidates with longer rap sheets, keep the list to their most important and heinous crimes, we don't need to hear about every time they decide to do something minor or petty.

Do they have any Mitigating Factors or Freudian Excuse?

Here you discuss any potential redeeming or sympathetic features the character has, the character's Freudian Excuse if they have one, as well as any other potential mitigating factors like Offscreen Villainy or questions of moral agency. Try to present these as objectively as possible by presenting any evidence that may support or refute the mitigating factors.

Do they meet the Heinousness Standard?

Here you compare the actions of the Candidate to other character actions in the story in order to determine if they stand out or not. Remember that all characters, not just other villains, contribute to the Heinousness Standard

Final Verdict?

Simply state whether or not you think the character counts or not.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM

nwotyzal Since: Sep, 2019
#239351: Dec 8th 2020 at 5:13:04 AM

[tup]Melton (I think it’s kinda weird how that series never took off in America when those kind of shows were popular in the 50s or so.)

[tdown]the Farmer image (out of context it just looks like bunch of colors threw up.)

MGD107 Since: Feb, 2015
#239352: Dec 8th 2020 at 5:20:27 AM

[tup] to Colonel Semiradov and Harry Melton (looking forward to seeing who else you have).

RobertTYL Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
DoodSlayer136 It's Him from SAGE (Snick Amateur Game Expo) (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
It's Him
#239355: Dec 8th 2020 at 6:20:19 AM

[tup] to melty.

Quick question:

Is David Near conductive for CM's?

Because I just found a audio thing for The Cartoon Cat, one of Trevor Henderson's creations, that looks promising. Does it look good?

[down] Fair enough.

[down][down][down] Canon to what? Its a fan project.

Edited by DoodSlayer136 on Dec 8th 2020 at 7:13:01 AM

AustinDR Lizzid people! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Lizzid people!
#239356: Dec 8th 2020 at 7:01:55 AM

No. Those are just voice acting videos with no plot.

nwotyzal Since: Sep, 2019
#239358: Dec 8th 2020 at 7:11:06 AM

[up][up][up]EDIT: Whoops. Misunderstood

Edited by nwotyzal on Dec 8th 2020 at 7:35:58 AM

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
nwotyzal Since: Sep, 2019
#239360: Dec 8th 2020 at 8:35:01 AM

Has anyone ever tried to look up more Online Roleplays to see if there’s any keepers? we only got the two games.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#239361: Dec 8th 2020 at 9:01:27 AM

Btw, I did watch the Crimson Pirate...want me to do an original EP or just write Gruda up?

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#239362: Dec 8th 2020 at 9:14:10 AM

Might as well do an EP (if you don't mind).

Sircray Since: Apr, 2018
#239363: Dec 8th 2020 at 9:20:36 AM

Melton (I think it's kinda weird how that series never took off in America when those kind of shows were popular in the 50s or so.)

The YMMV subpage for the Winnetou franchise does go into that a bit under Americans Hate Tingle.

(looking forward to seeing who else you have).

Well, no more for that, though it does have an animated film that I haven't seen because it appears not to have ever been translated; but from the look of things it didn't continue any of the show's storylines and instead was just a really, really loose adaptation of the book The Treasure of Silver Lake.

Have two or three others from In the Heat of the Night, though.

nwotyzal Since: Sep, 2019
#239364: Dec 8th 2020 at 9:29:53 AM

[up]I still think it’s kinda ridiculous that we didn’t like this show

Edited by nwotyzal on Dec 8th 2020 at 9:31:47 AM

DoodSlayer136 It's Him from SAGE (Snick Amateur Game Expo) (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
It's Him
#239365: Dec 8th 2020 at 9:53:49 AM

Got asked by a new user about doing an EP on Trevor Henderson's Man With the Upside Down Face, Trevs evilest character. I love the stuff Trevor does, but the info on the guy is basically a picture with a caption. Its enough to tell his personality and character, but not much else.

Se also asked if I could look at Siren Head, where Siren Head's a lot more malicious. At that point, I told her not to ask everyone to make an EP for him and linked her to the How To page.

For curiosity's sake, how bad is that game's Siren Head?

[down][down][down] Well, he also kills your friends, constantly mocks you, and then frames you for the murders. He's also clearly sentient, and a sadistic Serial Killer to boot. Probably should've mentioned that.

Edited by DoodSlayer136 on Dec 8th 2020 at 11:01:08 AM

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#239366: Dec 8th 2020 at 10:02:24 AM

Sircray, which of the Winnetoons baddies should go first?

Sircray Since: Apr, 2018
AustinDR Lizzid people! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Lizzid people!
#239368: Dec 8th 2020 at 10:22:53 AM

[up][up][up] If it's just Siren Head goes after the player, I don't think that's enough to make a case for that iteration.

I mean is there more to the plot?

Edited by AustinDR on Dec 8th 2020 at 11:02:17 AM

YearOfTheRabbit Since: Dec, 2020
#239369: Dec 8th 2020 at 10:47:20 AM

Edited by SeptimusHeap on Dec 10th 2020 at 6:00:03 PM

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#239370: Dec 8th 2020 at 10:54:22 AM

[tup]King Snake

So this is Bane's father huh.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
DoodSlayer136 It's Him from SAGE (Snick Amateur Game Expo) (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
It's Him
#239372: Dec 8th 2020 at 11:01:50 AM

[tup] to King Snake.

@Rabbit sorry for the misgendering, BTW.

Awesomekid42 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: It was only a kiss
Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#239375: Dec 8th 2020 at 11:14:22 AM

Yea to King Snake, well done!

I have a newer DC villain coming up soon if rereads pan out from Justice League Dark in the Upside-Down Man


Total posts: 326,048
Top